How to adjust Quadrajet secondary air doors

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Tyler's Neighborhood Garage

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@Sel10heit
@Sel10heit 7 жыл бұрын
10 years....10 years I dealt with the "WOT bog!" And then I watched your video, walked out to the car, made the adjustments to mimic the spring pressure you showed and BAM, bog gone. In fact, it'll now light the rear tires from a roll just mashing the pedal. Thank you!!
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@91hamod
@91hamod 6 жыл бұрын
What is bog?
@-OokySpooky-
@-OokySpooky- 6 жыл бұрын
@@91hamod Bog is what happens when you attempt to accelerate your vehicle but instead of gaining rpm, the engine speed slows down, flutters, or completely chokes out. It "bogs" down. Depending on the nature of your engine there can be many different things to take in consideration when trying to correct this problem, but in essence 9 times out of 10 its directly affected by improper fuel/air mixture from the carburetor. You stomp the gas -> improper carburetor tuning -> engine bogs -> complete loss of power and rpm -> a little piece of you dies inside. Carburetors are incrrrrredibly complicated devices with hundreds of completely different designs and applications. Each one must be tuned correctly or else you'll get poor gas mileage, low power, back fire, and eventually bogging as the severity of calibration strays. Hence, the individual above stating it took him 10 years to finally learn what to do to fix his bogging problem from this video. Don't be scared of them though. carburetors are just like any other piece of a vehicle - nuts and bolts. Take some time and watch some videos and eventually you'll slowly understand how simple they can be once you get what makes them tick. If you wish to build a carb for the first time Id suggest starting with a basic Holley. They're very user friendly, simple, and reliable. And because of their natural ON/OFF feeling design, they're great for more aggressive builds if you wish to slowly build you vehicle into something with more performance. I recommend a 4 barrel (4bbl for short) double pumper for a manual transmission and a 4bbl vacuum secondary for an automatic. There's nothing really wrong with a double pumper on an automatic though, just needs a bit more dialing work and throttle control. learn the difference between double pumpers and vacuum secondaries and you'll understand why. Holley actually has a full video series on youtube explaining almost everything you need to know. I hope this clears up a descent sum of you and others questions. Theres always more but I dont have the room to type EVERYTHING here lol. Best of wishes!
@GarthThomson
@GarthThomson 4 жыл бұрын
Best video ever for a description of the secondary flaps, their adjustment and the pull of dampener. Thanks 🙏
@stevosteve
@stevosteve 7 жыл бұрын
Top Man Tyler ! My little old 87 Pontiac Firebird 305 has been boggin and surging for almost a year. Trying to find people with knowledge on these here in the UK is like pullin teeth . . . . . painful, every time I thought I found a so called 'expert' they knew less than I did already. I have been 'messin' with the emissions system, and the QJet settings for ages, I tested every solenoid and checked every vacuum line for hold vac, hell I even pulled the EGR valve out and declogged it, and of course adjusted the infamous TV cable, but still my bogging from idle AND during acceleration remained. I have self-learnt and tried what I could 'SEE WITH MY EYES' but all in vain. THEN I found you Qjet video streams and this video led me to that hidden grub-screw used to secure the pre-tension spring for the secondary flaps . . . . . . . torch . . . . . .mirror . . . . .check . . . . . . .found the bugger LOOSE . . . . . . .adjusted the flap tension as you described . . . . . . and took the opportunity to also correctly adjust the choke flap and fast-idle speed. Just took it for run and WOWEE I HAVE MY CAR BACK. After a full year of messin about the problem has turned out to be a small loose grub screw for the secondary flap tension. Keep up the great work Tyler :-)
@zakcraig5544
@zakcraig5544 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! My Quadrajet was bogging pretty bad and after following your advice it's running great! Just went and did some victory donuts at full throttle with no bog! :D
@dennismcginness7376
@dennismcginness7376 2 жыл бұрын
Recently I purchased a 1989 454 completely stocked and 67 429 completely stock Luckily both have minimal adjustments to all components. Your videos have been absolutely amazingly helpful to me. As a teen in the seventies I know enough to get by but have much more to learn. I appreciate all the knowledge that you have shared and share. I'mma keep wrenching, Thank you
@williamwesse6114
@williamwesse6114 14 күн бұрын
Finally someone speaking in a manner that makes sense. Thank you. Good information here.
@cts0115
@cts0115 9 жыл бұрын
Man thank you so much. I finally got my car running right. I got a trans am and a quadrajet is the only thing I can fit under the shaker base. I never could get it to run right and tried everything in the book. Except this. Wow what a difference. I'm sold on the quadrajet now. Great information. Great explanation. I dialed mine in just like your flaps open and close on this video and it's running perfect. No more bog. Not more stumble. Nothing. It's perfect. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
@firstevidentenigma
@firstevidentenigma 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these. I learned SO much from you, and now I don't run anything except quadrajets. THANKS!
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad.
@deanhickey7450
@deanhickey7450 Жыл бұрын
Love your q-jet videos, would love to see one on all the different choke linkages from over the years. Thank again.
@kevinvezina6535
@kevinvezina6535 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video...I just built a 300 HP 305 for my boat.. ported heads, small duration ,small LSA big lift cam..stock low rise but with a 1" 4 hole for velocity and a bunch more goodies...I found I have a bog out of the gate and I'm sure this is it...on Holley's I would just test ,replace with a stiffer spring,test ..most people think it needs to open sooner but it's the opposite so that the carb does not lose all its signal too fast..so simple to adjust..I never knew ,or I did and forgot.. mechanic for over 30 years...great video,thanks for posting..
@royr8824
@royr8824 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I bought a remanufactured carb and the secondary's weren't coming on properly. I watched your video, loosed the spring and drivability is like night and day. Two thumbs up!!
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 3 жыл бұрын
sweet!
@Actionjacksonmateo
@Actionjacksonmateo 10 жыл бұрын
Great videos Nothing like hearing those secondaries suck down some air and fuel
@hoofdpijn
@hoofdpijn 2 жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how much your videos have helped me with my carb and getting it sorted out. Thank you so very much for taking the time to make these videos and share your knowledge.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they were of use.
@xmo552
@xmo552 Жыл бұрын
@@TylersNeighborhoodGarage They are definitely "of use". Any vehicle I've got with a carb.... they all have a Quadrajet. I love these carbs. I have a question Tyler... Can I tune *when* the secondaries come open? I've noticed I mine won't open up above 45 mph. Below 45 mph if I stomp on it she's a beast that'll embarrass sport cars. The issue I have on this 1981 c3500 (350/400/4.56:1 7400 lbs) is I have a long huge incline grade on the freeway near my house. If I hit it with speed I can climb it 80-100 mph but if I get there without speed..... all I can muster is 40-50 mph at full throttle and secondaries don't open. So.... I know if I need to tow over this hill, currently, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'm not expending big block or diesel torque to climb this hill but I know what a properly tuned small block can do, so I know I'm lacking alot. How do I fix my secondaries for this hill under load? 🙏
@StarlightWorkshop0z
@StarlightWorkshop0z 4 жыл бұрын
13:10 cheers Tyler mines doing this. Also i found out my secondary/choke vacuum module is dead. The one at the front of the carby. Its been running rich and not getting much power and chewing fuel. Excellent that you took the time to teach us.
@oldguyhobbies4627
@oldguyhobbies4627 Жыл бұрын
Tyler, Thank you so much for your videos and knowledge sharing on the QJET. This is the third video of yours I have watched and keep learning so much. I need to rebuild the Qjet on my 77 SE TA and your videos are tremendously helpful. Thank you!
@josephlisowski1694
@josephlisowski1694 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I restored a 1973 Formula 400, 4 barrel, 4 speed, like the new one I had back in the day. Had that Quadrabog problem when I punched it, didn't think the adjustments would really work, but after a few tweaks as described in your videos, the car wants to go sideways with power when the secondary"s open. WOW!
@davidmartin5957
@davidmartin5957 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. My Chevelle Quadrajet must have it too tight. The secondaries only open just a little. Even at full throttle. Your videos are very helpful. Mine had the choke rigged to always be open.
@Surfdawg32
@Surfdawg32 10 жыл бұрын
Tyler- thanks for the video update! My quadrajet is running unreal now. It was literally the smallest adjustment to tighten the spring on the secondary air doors and now all I hear is the legendary Rochester Roar! Thanks buddy.
@Lunchman.d
@Lunchman.d 9 жыл бұрын
WhoSaidTyler I had a bog like you described when I stomped on the gas pedal, and I tightened the secondary screw just like you showed and the bog is gone. Now I'm cruising around town in a 1936 Ford 2 door sedan with a Chevy 350.. recently inherited the car from a relative who passed away, and I knew nothing about carbs before this. Thanks again - Tim
@Lunchman.d
@Lunchman.d 9 жыл бұрын
P.S. it is a Carter Quadrajet. It looks just like the one in your video though.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 9 жыл бұрын
tim d Great! Yes Carter produced Quadrajets when Rochester couldn't keep up with demand.
@dougvanderwielen7937
@dougvanderwielen7937 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this video and made some changes to my carb that was wond way to tight. Found a lot of unused horse power I didn't know it had. Happy camper.
@hound4u937
@hound4u937 7 жыл бұрын
I have a freshly rebuilt Rochester Quadrajet. When I punch the gas the secondary's barely open. ( I had to dissemble and clean the carb for another reason) but Im certain I re-assembled it correctly. I watched your video and put it back together step by step. Also, when I give the engine a quick punch of gas, there is a slight stall as if its not getting gas right away. Thanks
@stevecollins115
@stevecollins115 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man. This video showed me that my diaphragm was holding my secondaries closed all the time. Couldn't figure it out until I saw this video! Cheers!
@25slim82
@25slim82 7 жыл бұрын
my dad had one on a 85 caprice 2 door 305 quadrajet. ran great for years no problem. I just recently purchased a 83 c10 with the 305. having some issues but I am learning how to work on it .
@busabobsgarage9876
@busabobsgarage9876 9 жыл бұрын
Nicely done videos. I just picked up a 75 Vette and your vids helped me get the carb tuned up. I thought that I might be facing a rebuild, but she's running like a champ after a couple adjustments....sweeeet!
@jdbas71
@jdbas71 Жыл бұрын
Just sold a carb like that for $20 on marketplace. Late 70s trans am. Now I'm working on the qjet on one of my ol c10s. 1st time I ever put a qjet back in an engine. Usually come off and go on the shelf or give em to a buddy. Figure this time I better learn em.
@SargentRestoration
@SargentRestoration 6 жыл бұрын
I subscribed. Thanks for the info. I'm 16 and working on restoring my 1980 z28 with original 350. Runs great but when you punch it, it hesitates and wants to stall but then picks back up. I'm gonna try this adjustment and if this doesn't help I'm gonna go through and make sure all the screws are adjusted to factory air/fuel mixture
@750rocketman5
@750rocketman5 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my k20 going today, thanks. Mine was hanging up and I filed it down with my miltitool at the creek, works a lot better. I'm glad I saw that that's ok to do, because I already did it lol
@commoncunninglinguist
@commoncunninglinguist 7 жыл бұрын
i rebuilt ( with a good chem. soak too ) a e34mc, and did everything, including the choke plate adjust with choke level gauge, the one with the bubble, and it works great. yes, i had to adjust that spring, and file the lock out pin for the butter fly's on the secondary. i loved it. set up a bench with leveler plate and all. the tools were a bit hard to obtain, and i made some of them, but i did every single thing that could possibly be done. all of it. the fucker rips ass now! edit: sometimes the hanging up you mentioned on the secondary , comes from that spring you just adjusted, it starts with a little snag on the initial movement. oil it up good and a hair, i mean a hair looser on the adjust is all you need. my choke pull off went out, and i took mine off and had to wire the fast idle cam down, so the secondary lock out pin would not interfere with the operation of my secondary. hell, wire that secondary top plate wide open too and give it gas. hahaha. fuck rochester!
@68chargerrod
@68chargerrod 9 жыл бұрын
Figured out my backfiring issue, it was timing, the quadrajet is singing now! Thanks again.
@jamesduffus4455
@jamesduffus4455 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the screen on the vent I knew it's a pontiac 800cfm I've been trying to get one for years that is the best rochester ever made my uncle had one on his GTO 400 6X I have watched a few videos of yours. I always hear guys mainly computer tuners say you can't tune part throttle on a carb and I always say NO YOU CAN'T tune a carb at part throttle but i can LOL. now i have a video reference to prove it.
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video. I believe this is what I need to check on a used QJ that I have on my 1974 C10 \ 454. I just got it installed this afternoon and it runs fine until I go WOT where it just moans a little instead of roars like a QJ should.
@jamesfox2925
@jamesfox2925 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. The previous owner removed the vacuum dampening linkage and all choke linkage, and wiretied the butterfly to an open position. I was considering installing a manual choke, but based on your info it still will not run correctly. Should I try to purchase all the vacuum parts or look a complete rebuilt unit? This carb was put on in place of the original Holley 2barrel.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 9 жыл бұрын
Well, the linkage pieces are not hard to come by, but they don't come in a rebuild kit. The only things in a rebuild kit are gaskets and rubber bits, plus the inlet needle and seat. What I normally do is look around on eBay to find a core carb that has the stuff I need. You can usually get one pretty cheap if it's really dirty and scummy on the outside. I think that's a pretty common electric-choke, Chevy style carb that was also used on cars and trucks through the mid-eighties. If you can provide your carb number then I can verify what parts carb you should look for. The number is located on the LEFT(side that has the throttle cable) side, on a rib running vertically up and down. It'll be something like 1708816 with 2067 AJC under it. These are just representative numbers, yours will be different.
@dannyal467
@dannyal467 3 жыл бұрын
doing this to the carb will it fix the cause of gas smeel coming through the mufflers?? i have a 79 z28 n it seems it pass too much gas through.. thank u for your video!
@gman598
@gman598 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for ur videos they are most helpful. My 73 t/a runs decent until the secondaries kick in then bogs. But if I get the t/a past 60mph and hit it it pulls just fine no bogging. I don't have any vacuum leaks as I can find. The secondaries doors are adjust just like urs. FYI I pro quadrajets.
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 2 жыл бұрын
I realize this is an older video but I wanted to ask you your opinion on this secondary air door/flaps opening and the spring tension you just adjusted. Back around 2000 I rebuilt a 350 Chevy engine out of a '72 Chevy Cheyenne pickup. The machine shop bored the cylinders .030 over, alighn honed it, rebuilt the stock heads, yada yada yada. I installed a mild performance cam, Edlebrock Performer intake and headers with glass packs. I had been researching the book "How to Hotrod The Small Block Chevy" and it had a wealth of information on building street rod engines and talked about how the 4 barrel Quadrajet was a good street rod carb if built and adjusted correctly so that's what I decided to do. The book also talked about how a particular engine could benefit from adjusting those secondary air flaps or doors to either open earlier or later depending on what the engine demanded or wanted. If I remember right it talked about how a built street rod engine would most likely benefit from adjusting them looser than stock to open earlier which is what I did. I never got any on the street experience with this engine because I was only able to break the engine in and run it on the engine stand here and there, I never had a chance to actually get it installed back in the truck because at the time I was doing a frame off restoration and the truck was in many pieces at the time and my fiancee and I split up before I could get it back together. Anyway, I wanted to ask your opinion on this subject if you've had any experience adjusting the secondaries to open sooner than was set at the factory for a hodrod engine and if you think the adjustment makes much of a difference in performance in such a case?
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you need to view the adjustment of those air doors as a balancing act, so to speak. They act directly on the secondary metering rods, so anything you do affects the metering. Adjusting them too loose is a common thing that people do and it ends up causing the air doors to pop open so far and so quickly that they bounce back closed, then open again. Guess what happens to the metering rods when they bounce closed? You simply approach the air doors as a tuning operation: drive the vehicle and adjust them until it operates as Rochester intended...no bog, no stumble. Remember that the secondary side is also tuned through the metering rods and the rod hanger. Factory HiPo Qjets also had larger pullover secondary enrichment as well.
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 2 жыл бұрын
@@TylersNeighborhoodGarage Unfortunately I don't have that vehicle anymore or that engine, not for many years but that's good to know for future reference when I build another one. 👍
@bismarckcuellar9764
@bismarckcuellar9764 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I understand 50% , I got a problem whit mine, the secondaries above open, but the secondaries plates on the top doesn't, could be the choke? It al seem good, only the top plates doesn't open
@daxlog1685
@daxlog1685 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I have a 1990 454 in my old RV and could not figure out the bog when the secondary should be kicking in going up hills or merging on highway which is so unsafe your video was clear and concise and so much appreciate you take care. I did have one question do you have a picture of the pick up tubes that might have fallen off from another carb or quick advice if easy to see if they have fallen off will try the video first but wanted to verify both just in case thank you again. Rian
@dannyal467
@dannyal467 4 жыл бұрын
great video man thanks quick question what do i need to adjust when your turn your car on and it smells like gasoline?? i have a 79 z28 with a 350 4 barrel?
@stevenaranjo8484
@stevenaranjo8484 9 жыл бұрын
Great videos and the QJ. I run a QJ in my Ford 460 in a 66 F250. Sorry, not GM or Mopar :) I cannot get the air door to open on the secondaries and so I watched this video with great interest. I tried adjusting the spring as you instruct but that makes no difference. I gather that adjustment is more for closing the door and nor opening it. I also checked all around the opening in the airhorn and there is absolutely nothing rubbing of blocking the door from moving. I took a couple of photos but don't know how to get them to you. My setup is a little different than yours in the video. For one I have only a single vacuum pot on the rear of the carb. It appears to serve the important function you outline here and I can't see that there is a hang up there either. I'm stumped. Any ideas what to try next to get that door moving? I can send photos if there is a way. Thanks, Steve
@jaytfo
@jaytfo 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you VERY MUCH! This is exactly what was wrong with the Quadrajet on my Firebird Formula 400. One thing I noticed, was that screw was loaded with the spring, and it had to be held at the desired position while the set screw (allen head) is tightened.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a 2-handed operation, lol.
@dustinmoore261
@dustinmoore261 10 жыл бұрын
VERY HELPFUL VIDEO Thanks for the help this video solved a month long problem i spent alot of time trying to figure out why my truck was booging and had no power when i got into it turns out my airhorn was in fact warped so i replaced it off another quadrajet now everything is great
@stankthetank9375
@stankthetank9375 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, i have a 4 barrel Rochester for my 1988 350 mercruiser. This thing starts right up and runs good until Wide open, then it loses power slowly. I don't think my secondaries are opening. the spring tension is good and my vacuum diaphram has positive suction when i start the engine. But when I hit the gas the vacumm diaphram doesn't release.
@randtgorman
@randtgorman 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Rochester 4 BL on a 86 Silverado 305. It only has one Damper on the firewall side. How do I determine if it was suppose to have 2 like the one your going over? These videos have been so helpful. Thanks so much I have learned a lot. After watching this video I thought Praise the Lord I found my problem, only to go out and look and only see 1 damper. I have looked at other pictures of the same carb, so I thought and some have a damper in the front, some in the rear, and some with both. Is there a way to tell which one Im suppose to have?
@lemonon7149
@lemonon7149 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your video's, You have helped me greatly by keeping your explanations in Lamens terms and right to the point without any over explanations. If people are here trying to troll you in any ways i would wonder why they were on your site if they know so much. Thanks again.
@Tolbertkennel
@Tolbertkennel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Just bought a C30 and the secondary flaps had no spring tension. It would open up if you looked at it the wrong way. 😂
@tirehead72
@tirehead72 8 жыл бұрын
ive used QJ to replace Thermquads on Mopars, and swapped a few Holleys out for newfound beleivers..not a fan of the later 4ME series,but with right rods, hangers ,and pull off rod/ damper door setup..still work damn good on the 80s GM products too
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 8 жыл бұрын
you're right
@McCracken_9
@McCracken_9 8 жыл бұрын
+WhoSaidTyler how do you remove the spring to replace it? loosen the set screw and pry the shaft that that the spring is wraped around out?
@waynep343
@waynep343 9 жыл бұрын
secondary air door spring adjustments are somewhere between 1/2 and 1 turn by 1/16 of a turn.. 1/2 turn, 9/16 of a turn, 5/8 of a turn, 11/16 of a turn.. all the way to one turn..
@Rob-yp4rg
@Rob-yp4rg 8 жыл бұрын
Great videos! I was able to rebuild my quadrajet using them. The car is running great except for one small problem; the secondary needle hangar cam is missing. I bought a new one but how do I put it in? Is there a way to put it on without taking apart the secondary air valve? which way does it go? I don't want to install it backwards.
@mentalllllll
@mentalllllll 7 жыл бұрын
Whosaidtyler Thank you for this video. Now I just got to figure out where to get that little return spring because my old one just got bent oyt of shape today.
@steveunterreiner3494
@steveunterreiner3494 4 жыл бұрын
I miss think I broke my spring and then when I was taking the screw out I lost a screw is anywhere I can get a new screw and spring
@hookah4428
@hookah4428 8 жыл бұрын
just wanted to thank you for the refresher man been a while since i played with a carb so i wanted to get info on the vac lines. thanks for the help with your vids that i watched i now have all the info i need to get my 75 camaro to run like a dream
@hookah4428
@hookah4428 8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph laGasse oh and my 79 buick
@randtgorman
@randtgorman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video. I have been having this exact problem on my 86 Silverado 305. My Rochester 4B appears to be missing the front damper. Your demo was on a higher performance motor, but am I suppose to have that front damper? Sorry if thats a stupid question. Just want to make sure before I go and try to buy the part.
@joshhall8989
@joshhall8989 10 жыл бұрын
Love the quad.. I do have a question.. I decided to build another street car and didn't want the typical Chevelle, Mustang. etc.. Being a Chevy man by trade, I wanted something different.. So I am building a 75 Ford Maverick.. Yes I know a Ford.. Had a Holley on it, and in my opinion there junk.. So I am rebuilding a Rochester Quad part # 17056208.. The motor is a 70 model 302 30 over flat top, with 70 model 351W heads that have been ported and polished, with oversize stainless valves.. It has a comp cam non roller 515 lift 280 duration.. It's not going to be a drag car, just a weekend cruiser.. My question is should I go with a bigger primary jet.. I can't seem to find the info on what the stock size jets and metering rods are for that carb.. Any help would be appreciated.. Love the videos..
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 10 жыл бұрын
That should be plenty of carb. It came from a '76 Chevy 350. You can read your plugs after cruising for a while and that should indicate if you need to jet down any. Don't feel bad putting one on a Ford. Chrysler used them and even Ford used Qjets on some early 70's engines.
@gustavette8487
@gustavette8487 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. My secondary's butterfly has no tension in the spring: it stays down if I push it down. even after adjusting the adjustment screw as you show here. The spring you show at 17:46 seems got separated from the rod it is supposed to attach to. Is that spring available as a spare part? I yet have to take the carb off to confirm that the spring has lost that curved end that holds it to the rod. I believe it is broken. Thanks
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 2 жыл бұрын
There's a place called Quadrajet-parts on the internet that may have it. Otherwise, you might buy a cheap parts carb off ebay to get the part.
@lwarneka10
@lwarneka10 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I rebuilt my quad and it bogs very bad if you step into it at all. I looked and the damper rod for the back four (break) had slipped out. I will put it back and see what happens.
@maxwmusic8276
@maxwmusic8276 9 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thanks a lot!! Ive bot some problems with my Corvette and I think its because the secondaries are not opening the way they should.Almost everytime i step hard on it it dies. Will check that and your vid showed me what to look at. Greetings from Germany!
@austinbreen9090
@austinbreen9090 9 жыл бұрын
You know a lot about carbs and was wondering if I could get your advice I have a 84 Camaro with a 305 that has a quad on it and I can't get the scandals to open and I don't know why my carb dose everything that yours dose and it's in really good condition. I just don't know why
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 4 жыл бұрын
Agree on the mental aspect of the front pull-off! I call my oldsmobile a rocket motor, thus I figure it's as close as this gets to rocket science? ;)
@lokiwolfwood7942
@lokiwolfwood7942 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Dude what a life saver. Learning engines my friends Dad (you know the "Cool Dad" Called my quadra jet a quadrajunk and I hated it. Now That I am older and wiser I am rebuilding my baby. a 69 LeMans with a 79 Trans am heart. The Olds 403. Don't judge its what came in it when I bought it. The question is now that you saved it's life by showing me the "hidden Spring" on the secondary air doors. Should I switch to an electronic choke? Or track down and purchase the Hot air original style? If i t's ok to go electronic do you know which one I should use? Thanks again
@myyllw71
@myyllw71 4 жыл бұрын
What if that dampner has constant vacuum even with the engine at higher rpm and it is keeping the secondaries pulled shut all the time? Thanks
@Daryl8992
@Daryl8992 2 жыл бұрын
Like your videos. Curious What is the adjustment screw that sits on top of the choke housing?
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage Жыл бұрын
That's probably the adjustment for the vacuum pulloff distance. It has to do with the amount that it "pulls off" the choke plate on a cold start.
@davidgilbert6924
@davidgilbert6924 5 жыл бұрын
Great video's I like how you explain things very easy to understand and learn without having more questions after
@josephridley4556
@josephridley4556 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like u have mopar vehicle fo work bench to work on gm carb? Funny thing is , an old timer told me to bolt a quadra jet on top of my dodge 383 if I ever wanted to get it to run right?
@mulliedog1
@mulliedog1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother! It helped me figure out the issue on my 85 C-10 305. I appreciate your help!
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@jayray5620
@jayray5620 7 жыл бұрын
A++ Got 90% of the bogg out of my Qjet! Still have some fine tuning but nice to fix an issue with a few tools instead of a few parts.
@mikebenson1104
@mikebenson1104 3 жыл бұрын
Did my adjustment in less than 5 minutes on my first try and it is perfect
@daveshanton485
@daveshanton485 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demystifying the rocket science voodoo of the secondaries on my caprice’s quad !!!
@g.harrismcgraw8325
@g.harrismcgraw8325 9 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your videos. Just pulled the Quad off my 84 Chevy truck (17084226) and started a rebuild. It was going well until I discovered my air horn is warped. Do you recommend trying to straighten? I did not see that you had any video on correcting warped air horns. I have watched most of your QJ videos over the past week in preparation for the rebuild. Thanks for sharing this information.
@gfdfperte4248
@gfdfperte4248 8 жыл бұрын
There are many great Book's on Q jets that have all the information you will ever need.
@kimble005
@kimble005 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. My 85 C10 5.7ltr and I thank you. :)
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 10 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@deadmonton420
@deadmonton420 8 жыл бұрын
and im glad you have a lot of qudrajet videos
@225grasshopper225
@225grasshopper225 7 жыл бұрын
cool video , new to the q-jets , I have a hand full of 4x4 buddy's and they all run the q-jets , mainly because of the center float when 4x4ing , so here is my question . I am missing parts of the q-jet that is related to the choke , I'm on the web . looking and all I can find is like two peace's and cant find the rest with out buying two or three carbs is there a place that I can buy all I need ? I'm running a 7041211 any help would be great , thanks jay
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Try quadrajetparts.com. Good luck!
@BBugnOut
@BBugnOut 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mine was sticking on the butterfly to the body in a little spot the size of the diameter of a pencil. Opens up when I floor it with the pedal now.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 9 жыл бұрын
+BBugnOut Great. The entire carburetor can slightly twist after years of the bolts being tightened down.
@hawkhawkins4580
@hawkhawkins4580 9 жыл бұрын
you seem to be the man!!! I have an 87 dodge d250 with a 360 Rochester just bought truck and the carb is driving me crazy ive watched your vids ... my truck just wants to die or act like it is starved for fuel once it hits 35 or 45 or 50 mph it differs but will rev high while in park put elec fuel pump on but must be in adjusting can you help please
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 9 жыл бұрын
Hawk Hawkins It shouldn't need an electric pump. I think you have another, unrelated issue with the ignition system. Ignition problems tend to manifest themselves under LOAD, meaning lower rpms, more stress. Fuel problems tend to reveal themselves as the vehicle nosing over the higher the revs go. That's a simple way of putting it, but before you condemn the carb, check the distributor itself to see whether the shaft(the one inside it) is loose, the cap or rotor is burned or that it simply needs a full tuneup.
@dustindustries42
@dustindustries42 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard that these Rochester's need to have regulated fuel pressure of 3 psi. I have rebuilt my carb cleaned the snot out of it. Nothing in the seat. Float is at the correct height. Searching my head on this thing ran so good last year I wonder if it these new fules.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 2 жыл бұрын
haven't heard that.
@AllanSmith859
@AllanSmith859 6 жыл бұрын
I have that exact same carb on my 79 el camino ss. I have searched and asked all over about this and no one can help me. On the front left side (driver side) of your q jet in this video there is some type of electronic piece. Mine has a metal tab sticking out of it for a wire to plug into it. I couldn't tell if yours had the tab but it is the exact same as mine. I have searched the internet for this and this is the first time I've seen the exact same carb as mine. I cant find anything on this. I've looked up the numbers on mine and cant find anything special about it. I have used my q jet for a while now without a wire connected to this with no issues but would like to know if it helps with anything. If possible I would like to send you pictures if you need them. Let me know what you think. Also thanks for the great videos.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably an idle kick-up solenoid. With 12v applied the plunger should extend against the throttle arm and raise the idle slightly to keep the engine from stalling with the ac on. Alternatively, it could be used to let the throttle plates close all the way when the key is turned off to prevent dieseling. You should be able to determine which function it is used for. Good luck!
@billknepfel
@billknepfel 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a q-jet from jet performance a few months ago. Carb runs great just cruising, but when I start getting into the secondaries it start bogging down and kinda spitts. Almost seems like it's starving for fuel. I run it with the air cleaner off, the secondary air doors open slightly. Not sure what is going on with it. Paid $475 for a carb i can even open up
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 3 жыл бұрын
You are losing fuel supply somewhere. The air doors need to be tight enough to stay closed. If the flop open too easily or stay part way open you will never get a clean transition into the secondaries. People get too hung up on "they need to open as wide as they can" mentality. Past that, your symptoms sound suspiciously like some of the secondary pickup tubes have fallen out of the airhorn inside the carb. They press into the bottom of the airhorn and supply the secondary side fuel. There are usually two metering tubes and two pullover enrichment tubes. The pullover tubes supply the small holes at the forward edge of the airdoors with a bit of fuel when the airdoors start to open so it doesn't get a bog before the metering circuit comes in. If your air doors are hanging OPEN then you have effectively disabled that. Rochester spent lots of time making these carbs run very well so I encourage people not to second guess things. I would adjust the spring tension on the airdoors per this video, and then see if your issues resolve. if they do not then you or someone will need to remove the airhorn and have a look at those tubes and the float level. Pick up one of the qjet guide books, it will help immensely.
@goofball3236
@goofball3236 9 жыл бұрын
great video ty for sharing it i got a 800 cfm quadra on my 85 silverado c30 with a 454 im having problems with the damn throttle sticking i sprayed some wd40 in the throttle cable and it worked for about 2 weeks so replaced it and it worked great for about a month and its doing it again now im have a hard spot in the throttle when i push on the gas ist not a problem when going down the freeway but when in town its hard to stay at a certain speed with it doing that i also replaced the throttle springs abd same thing any suggestions will help ty for your time
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 9 жыл бұрын
goof ball That needs to be fixed asap because if it sticks you could cause an accident. First thing is disconnect the throttle cable at the carburetor and see if the throttle(at the carb) closes back smoothly each time. if so, you found your problem, which is a worn out, sticky throttle cable. Those are cheap to replace. You can't lube them and it last any length of time. If you still have sticking issues at the carb itself, which I doubt then you'll have to see what's going on. Sometimes the baseplate can warp and cause the throttle blades to hit the sides of the bores, but this is very uncommon. Sometimes also the throttle shaft will wear into the baseplate, but I think your entire issue will turn out to be a worn throttle cable.
@goofball3236
@goofball3236 9 жыл бұрын
WhoSaidTyler ya i replaced it anf the new one worked great for about a month then started doing it again i will check the carb next thanks
@goofball3236
@goofball3236 9 жыл бұрын
goof ball also what would be a good lube to put in that cable i tried wd40 and it lasted about 2 weeks is all
@MrJamuary
@MrJamuary 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, Great video, but I still have a question. On my Quad jet the problem I run into is the vacuum damper will not release the rod under full throttle, it is like there is still too much vacuum on the diaphragm. The diaphragm releases while the engine is off but pulls tight while it is running so I think it is ok, I just don't understand why the diaphragm won't release? I feel certain it is hooked to the right port, but maybe not?
@cts0115
@cts0115 9 жыл бұрын
Make sure it's hooked to manifold vacuum. Where it's sucking air at idle, and part throttle. When you floor it, the vacuum should go completely away. The other type of vacuum is ported vacuum. And that has no suction at idle, but starts sucking air with more throttle. If you've got manifold vacuum on it and it still doesn't release at wide open then you need a new canister.
@axtra92
@axtra92 3 ай бұрын
Should the secondary doors open if you give it gas when you are in neutral and standing still? How do i know mines are opening? They are closed all the time from what i can see when i stand next to the car and give gas/throttle
@ktajax
@ktajax 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorials. I used them to rebuild my quadrajet in my boat. I came back to this one because I am having issues with backfiring through carb, which I believe is a lean issue. Thought metering rods where not opening. As soon as RPM's get above 3800 is right about time the secondary opens up and backfires. This is all under load. Jets are spec according to manual for the boat engine. Basic Merc V8 350. Timing set 8* btdc. Any ideas?
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 8 жыл бұрын
I suggest ensuring that the secondary circuits are indeed capable of flowing fuel, and also you may wish to check total ignition advance with a dial back timing light.
@bobc.5698
@bobc.5698 5 жыл бұрын
The cam on my secondaries seems to have a wore flat spot on it right where it starts to open. It catches a little. I hope it will work when I get it on the engine.
@mikeuva2273
@mikeuva2273 Жыл бұрын
if it bogs is it because the spring is tight or too loose which way do you want to go?
@tylertucker4478
@tylertucker4478 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a 85 k10 and my air doors won't open on the truck if I use my finger all the way like yours did. Is that normal? And it seems like my secondaries won't open all the way with the pedal all the way on the floor. I don't know much about these carbs so please learn me one you get a sec
@gotj
@gotj 3 жыл бұрын
The spring was fine in mine but the cam that pushes up the needles was broken and got stuck in there and the flaps wouldn't open.
@williamellis4669
@williamellis4669 7 жыл бұрын
i reacently tried to make this adjustmeant after having this bog issue step by step i done as you showed with your finger testing its tention after my adjustmeant and it made a snap noise now the sring doesnt pull the flaps closed??! I didnt turn it that tight im sure so im hopeing the spring would by chance just have came loose i even tried putting the tension back loose and its still the same. Do you have any opion on how i can check to se why the sring doesnt work or if its fixable without taking it off my engine?
@vulgarhyena9616
@vulgarhyena9616 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your knowledge and help!
@billcoffman7380
@billcoffman7380 6 жыл бұрын
What about the quadrajet pump ? Have a 1986 GMC sierra classic, and can`t get fuel to the plugs. Any ideas ? Sounds like you can hear fuel in the carburetor when you work the linkage from the pedal, not sure though. #1 SPARK PLUG bone dry !! Fuel is coming to the carburetor from the pump. Don`t no about the pressure though. Pored fuel strait in the throat of the beast still no fuel on plug.
@tylerziegler3896
@tylerziegler3896 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know how to work on a non automatic carburetor. Would help a lot!!!!!
@migueltrevino8077
@migueltrevino8077 5 жыл бұрын
Good information. Set mine up and it runs strong 💪
@28tonrod
@28tonrod 7 жыл бұрын
adjusting secondary, will it help spuddering at at higher rpm as well?
@hughgarteiser5416
@hughgarteiser5416 7 жыл бұрын
In a all out drag race application, can those two top secondary butterflys be removed? What would be the purpose to have those two large covers in an Wide open throttle drag race vehicle?
@Avatheskibidiaplphadog
@Avatheskibidiaplphadog 3 жыл бұрын
You know if GM did away with 2 Chorcoal Canisters on dual tank C10s and 20s?
@adamk.6766
@adamk.6766 7 жыл бұрын
can you do a video show how the secondary door spring is installed. I turned my set screw to find out the spring is not attached. thank you
@steveunterreiner3494
@steveunterreiner3494 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh I snapped mine
@stevenbarts8718
@stevenbarts8718 8 жыл бұрын
nice video, thanks. i have a question. I bought two new quadrajets (marine application) and the secondaries are siticking closed on one of them, i have switched carbs on the motors and it is the carb. It wont run past 3K rpm and the butterfly on the secondary feel like it sticks in the first few mm of the movement.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 8 жыл бұрын
+steven barts ok...what is your question?
@coloradoyeti3091
@coloradoyeti3091 6 ай бұрын
What size allen key? Just wondering. Thanks!
@keithblattner4453
@keithblattner4453 2 жыл бұрын
It was a big help thanks try it tomorrow have a great holiday 😀
@CarTravelSweden
@CarTravelSweden 3 жыл бұрын
I have problems that the car bog ver very little when I am and in gear and start rolling. Can the secondaries be the problem that they are to loose ? I have no issue at kickdown or other gears.
@jeromeallegrezza7561
@jeromeallegrezza7561 2 жыл бұрын
Is there an easy way to install the spring if it comes out of that slide with that turning screw I just meant mine fell out how do I get back in I'm having a hell of a time
@ktajax
@ktajax 8 жыл бұрын
I just checked timing advance and its on, at least up to 3800rpm. With it running at idle, I can open top secondary doors, which lifts metering rods and fuel should be coming out the small little ports, right? Mine are not, at least at idle and a little above idle. Or does fuel only flow though at high RPM? Just want to check before I tear it apart again.
@rmtz59
@rmtz59 5 жыл бұрын
I have a summit bought quadrajet #17057553 that I had on my stock pontiac 400. I then rebuilt my motor and added ram air manifolds, ram air 068 cam and 2.5 exhaust. And my current altitude is 5312'. I am not certain what jets I have in there just yet. I guessing stock size, But do you think I should install larger jets and metering rods"? If so, got any idea what size?
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