How to Agressively Return Weak Second Serves | 4.0 NTRP Tennis Lesson

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In today's tennis lesson with Shamir, we work on how to agressively return weak second serves & the return of serve in general.
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[@IntuitiveTennis]

How to Develop Explosiveness 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnXWimR9YtytjKcsi=xNmx3f7RZl03ZANg

[@milanvincic9668]

Shamir is back. Discussions are back. Quality content for tennis rec players Let me tell you one thing Nikola, with other people's videos I rarely watch anything that is more than 10 minutes long. With you videos the more they last the happier I am. Great video guys - enjoyed every moment of it

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thanks for hanging in there. This was a long one 🙏

[@ardhendushekhartripathi5573]

I face these weak second serves so many times at my level and just mess it up every single time trying to over crush it. Thank you so much Nick for explaining things so well!!

[@melfox215]

Another problem, especially on lower levels (low 4.0 and lower) is that many guys ALWAYS position themselves behind the baseline when returning. There is no rule in tennis to start from that spot. If your opponent has a very slow (2nd) serve like a young kid, you should not stand behind the baseline. Move to the middle between baseline and service line, prepare to hit a forehand, be in high intensity and move to the slow ball. You should NEVER return a slow serve below net level, so get to the ball before it gets down. As you then might be close to the t, you need to play more spin, so that you don't risk all your returns being too deep. In the end, it's not as easy as many think. It takes practice, but once you're comfortable with those shots, it creates so much pressure on opponents, that they lose confidence in their serve games and probably raise risk and produce a lot of double faults. If you're a good net player, you can also attack all these bad serves with a slice attacking the net. You can mix it up by playing drop shots instead of attacking slices from time to time. It should definitely be your goal to become a player that can benefit from these serves.

[@NsteveA]

Big props to Shamir for doing this and sharing it with us. And I hope he's issue free with his foot.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

He is feeling better 💯🙏

[@mykorabel]

Shamir just can’t stop overthinking every technique he’s learning 😅

[@victorBQ27]

He's just like me fr

[@JanitorIsBack]

he can't stop talking, very annoying

[@davidhale8034]

​@@JanitorIsBackit's his lesson FFS!!! 🤦

[@mehmetkunter5998]

@@davidhale8034 i agree.. let the coach annoyed by it if he is..

[@ajollypanda4175]

@@JanitorIsBackthats because he cares about learning…he paid for what you’re watching for free

[@tennis_geek]

Coach, video on how to gauge opponents weaknesses & build a point building game strategy please.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

💯

[@robdavies4294]

@17:44 Shamir finally reached peak intensity ;-)

[@IntuitiveTennis]

This happens to tennis coaches a lot. I never caught it on camera and kept it in. Unintentional from Shamir of course but teaching tennis can be tough 😂

[@12GaugePadawan]

I thought for sure when coach walked away that he was going to retaliate. 😄

[@brianli0987]

​@@IntuitiveTennis the reward for being forced to look at Shamir's butt = get hit with a return. Joking of course 😂

[@hermanodejesus7264]

LOL

[@dj7oya]

As milan said, it's funny how you can grasp my attention for more than 10 minutes. One of the very few creators capable of that.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

🙏

[@danielschoeman5427]

Shamir is a fun student. Good job guys

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thank you. Shamir is great.

[@nikhilgoyal204]

If I had a coach like this… Shamir is lucky to have a coach so interested in helping him.

[@OxygenSWAT]

Fear the Shamirr!!!!!

[@IntuitiveTennis]

💯

[@Shaunsweeney-Kubach71]

Great job on the video Coach and Shamir! I have shortened my backswing on my return and it’s helped me out so much and I practiced this drill with the tennis ball machine. My friends asked me how I improved on my return of serve, and I shared this video with them. So we got you some new subs Coach! Thank you for your great work on this videos Coach!

[@aca8638]

I also played recently and had problems with soft serves... this is pure gold sir!

[@minorstripe]

I watched an older video today morning with Shamir and thought it would be great if there were a new video with him coming up! Keep it up!

[@IntuitiveTennis]

More to come!

[@raizispce]

10:58 just show us how important "the split" right before the opponent hit the ball is!! Keep the good work Shamir

[@jonathanshin5094]

Thank you so much to both you and Shamir. I keep losing against a good opponent, whose main weakness is a super weak second serve (albeit well placed). After this video I realised have been too relaxed often returning with my BH - I will up my intensity, quick first move, foot positioning, and run around much more to my FH!

[@IntuitiveTennis]

🔥🔥

[@SuperDutzzy]

Im struggling of weak opponents serve all my tennis career, thank you for your work, Shamir did great!

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thanks and keep improving the return of the weak serve 💯🙌🙌

[@melfox215]

Hi Nik! I consider myself being somewhere on Shamir's level, but the return is probably my best shot. Based on watching almost all of your videos on KZbin, I was thinking 'hot feet' are necessary on any shot, so I try doing that on the return as well. My explosiveness might not be higher than Shamir's, but I think to get half a step closer to the ball and get more opportunities on forehand returns. Part of it is also, that I try reading my opponent and very early choose the grip to decide if I hit a forehand or a backhand. Bad part is, when the serve gets to the not expected side, I need to switch to continental grip and hit a slice return. Even on forehands.

[@leandronicolas8848]

"What did we learn today?" I love this part in your videos/lessons.

[@Reedfender]

SHAMIR THE GOAT

[@IntuitiveTennis]

🙌🙌

[@stephannicolas8696]

Woaw!!!What an amazing video!!!Thank you so much for sharing all that knowledge.So many precious tips.This content format is awesome. All the best to Shamir. 10/10 Electricity, 10/10 Intensity!!! Cheers from France

[@IntuitiveTennis]

🙏🙌

[@ThesGt]

wow this came at a perfect time, i do have problems with those slow 2nd serves, will do this, tons of great tips

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hrasenspocht3530]

great video, thank you, Nik and Shamir.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thank you

[@citiofbrass]

I like this coach. Keeping it real and not babying him

[@PaullHutchh]

Thank you for this! A lot of the mistakes Shamir makes are the same for me. Very eye opening 👏👏

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tennisone6376]

Good session, keep going Shamir

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thank you. Shamir is training hard 💯🔥

[@marcushilmersson7848]

This is really good stuff and will certainly take to heart the footwork and intensity parts. That being said - all these serves, weak though they may be, still jump up to a convenient height for the most part. But what about the weak-a$$ serves that barely clear the net that you almost have to scrape up from the ground? I find them nigh on impossible to be aggressive with, what's the best strategy for those? Last match I stayed so low to the ground I could barely move to get underneath it.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

I gave Shamir a few of those. They can be tricky. Apply same rules as you would for a short sitter FH kzbin.info/www/bejne/baqomWh5htCisKMsi=nuV0-GpZcUIcK5QF

[@petershort936]

A weak serve you didn't cover is one that is slow and non-threatening, but remains low because the server is cutting the ball. By the way, this is a great practice. Very few rec players practice return.

[@odb233]

My best asset is my return of serve I believe. I just sometimes go too big. I played a lot of baseball as a kid and I think that has really helped me seeing the ball early and anticipating the speed and trajectory.

[@thomasmedeiros5722]

Baseball training is a great crossover skill for tennis. You learn to use the ball/ strike count, number of outs, runners on base and game score to make decisions. You learn to remember what pitchers or batters do in certain situations and use that to your advantage. I was a lead off hitter who made contact, hit to different fields and used my foot speed. In tennis I used these skills to return good serves and place second serve returns to set up my next shot. You don’t have to hit an outright winner when attacking a weak serve just place it well to set up your next shot. This takes confidence in ability. Going for the outright winner on the first shot frequently is a sign of insecurity.

[@Shaunsweeney-Kubach71]

Don’t feel bad Coach I got hit 3 times in one doubles match and my opponent loves hitting at the because my hands are fast, we have fun. Great job Shamir keep up the good work my dude.

[@jeremyvanvlymen7191]

Great lesson

[@IntuitiveTennis]

🙏

[@KC-tt6oh]

17:47 Nick got a taste of Shamir’s sniper like accuracy 😂.

[@shenjunjun1927]

Hurting feeling when the ball knokcing Nick 's head. Tennis could be dangerous. Great coach.👍

[@PrecisionPointTennis]

Excellent instructions!!!

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thank you!

[@Ben_Weaver]

Dammit Shamir, don't kill him. I like this channel.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

He didn’t mean to. it’s all 🫶

[@tedporter9048]

Whats your thoughts on louis calle’s coaching?

[@WhiteTree87]

I'm getting back into tennis after not playing for 10 years. Im looking to upgrade my highschool tennis racket ( Wilson Prostaff Trance 95 sqin 264g). Should I look for something with the same specs or upgrade to a 97-98 sqin ~300g? I dont really have the luxury to test drive different brands where I'm located too. I appreciate your videos. They've helped alot to get the rust off.

[@cheefussmith9380]

Great stuff

[@repriser9876]

He doesn't have the lower body muscles to support the response required to kill a weak serve. He needs conditioning, because of too much trunk weight.Thank you for sharing.

[@KC-tt6oh]

Hahah, Shamir getting yelled at for running around the forehand to hit a backhand return. “Don’t EVER DO THAT!” 😂

[@bbb12345]

That's a beautiful place to play. Where is it? Is it a condo? Btw, awesome lesson. Thanks!

[@marktcx]

Love this - enlightening and entertaining! Bert and Ernie of tennis 😃

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Thank you

[@abab0015]

Not same video but by any chance can you post the settings used for N2 ball machine you used 4 months ago 😅

[@Alientourists]

I think his hop step on his return is a little to low so he won't be explosive on his first step to the ball. Also a hop step with the foot landing turned to the side the ball is served to will help speed up him getting side ways to return. Instead of hop stepping into the return with both feet pointing forward

[@rsh8057]

First 10 minutes, I was thinking these are not weak serves for 4.0 ;). I'm glad he dropped the pace to reflect an amateur serve. The kick serves on Ad side though were still pretty tough for a 4.0 to attack w/ backhand.

[@almoko]

Thank you thank you thank you

[@IntuitiveTennis]

🙏🙏

[@keremkilicay9995]

I just get the feeling our old friend Shamir is seriously loaded.

[@danielmata9178]

Shaaaaaaaaamir!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@hansolsson3409]

Great lesson and hilarious discussion about the butt! 😅😅

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Haha 💯 thank you Hans

[@claureic]

I have a question: you didn't mention the split step. is a split step necessary on the return? when you watch pros, they all do a split step on the return.

[@jingotrades]

Not that Nick isn't likely already all over this but anyone else notice Shamir's split step seems late / often he's starting to hop after you hear the pop of the serve off Nick's racket? Might explain the struggle getting to the ball and prepped

[@bsinghgill]

Agree with this point. Also noticed he moves sideways for the wide ball on the deuce side. If he reacts sooner he can go diagonally to the return. He also needs to shorten his back swing I think.

[@jamesm6377]

My issue is that a lot of the men I play with aren't six foot ten like Nick so the balls come slow and low with almost no bounce. I have tried moving in but they are also really good at hitting the lines. But I think some of this can work.. thanks

[@TheBlessedLion]

I‘m a lefty server…I like these discussions…😂

[@IntuitiveTennis]

💯

[@virtualyme7659]

Just my observation as another instructor. He is moving parallel to the baseline instead of moving diagonally to cut off the angle. If you watch towards the end of the video you feed him a wide forehand after a wide serve to the forehand and he does move diagonally to cut off the ball on the ground stroke. His backhand doesn't seem to get much coil and I feel like his preparation it's too long. Maybe he could coil and not try to bring the racket head up so high to drive the backhand return. Possibly another avenue is split step a little bit earlier. Not a criticism just an observation in an effort to help ☮️

[@thechip834]

What are those lines close to the service box?

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Pickleball

[@shawnrobertson5481]

I'm a lefty and I don't think I've ever seen a blue moon when I decide to go play tennis ;)

[@kylepiscitello8889]

I feel like his feet are stuck until the last second. There’s no active energy in the legs prior to getting ready for the turn/swing.

[@bernardmckey9396]

Key is on weak second serves Take the ball early Good positionally Good foot work split steps On first strike move in to the court to attack Extremely high intensity

[@meharvirdi1719]

shamir should experiment with a two-hander just as a "trial." I really think just in 1-2 months it would already be better than than his one-hander

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Impossible

[@meharvirdi1719]

😂😅

[@bsinghgill]

His 1HBH is nice, he just needs a lighter racket to allow him to generate more RHS 😉

[@wallaceyallup4026]

Wow, so if this is aggressively attacking a weak 2nd serve, then I must be psycho-killer!, when I am attacking a weak 2nd serve by striking the ball with a few feet outside the service line. I mean, i am hitting the (served) ball, on the rise, when it's leaving the service box. so what do you call that? Super Psycho Intensity?

[@Projektthr33]

Head Boom Pro is your next racquet

[@t2dev]

Unless you're Roger, Pete, Steffi, Justine, Iga, Mac, Ivan, Stefan ... Don't chip it... Meaning unless you've practiced it enough that it's no longer a weakness.

[@petershort936]

Still think Shamir plays with a racquet that's too heavy for him. He gets benefit from the weight on the forehand side, but he loses speed on the backhand. He could drop from 330g to 320g and I think he'd still get a lot of pop but gain some hand speed.

[@Tennis214]

Totally agree with you there. It’s tough because coach doesn’t want to make it about the gear but he’s hinted to Shamir that it’s even too much for himself. That’s a racket you need to be in top shape for and super intense footwork wise. I’d think the standard Percept 97 16x19 with maybe just a little weight at 3 and 9 would be a major beneficial change for him. It would accommodate his long term foot condition as well. Last thing is he strings his current racket with a full bed of 16 gauge 4G which is not necessarily a problem, but the tension is in the mid to high 50’s. This entire setup is just very demanding.

[@petershort936]

@@Tennis214 yeah, I think Nic addressed that string tension with him at one point. Only reason to use high 50s if you're a rec players if you've got gut or multi in the string bed.

[@PalmSpringsSketchComedy]

Hitting with a Percept WITH added weight will be hard for anyone to handle quickly

[@CoachRyan727]

10!

[@jaychon8418]

did he hit you on puprose :-)? I saw him laughing 🙂

[@IntuitiveTennis]

He didn’t

[@deepseadiver8191]

The best coaching trick ever: allow him to hit you while standing in the middle, then from that moment on he never hit a single returns into the middle ! 😂

[@MostLikedComment123]

intensity is such a problem in rec, but it makes sense lol

[@edwardypark]

Shamir is Nik’s tennis son.

[@sebastianfrese]

I'm so glad to play on european clay courts, where you never see these annoying pickle ball lines.

[@maxgluteus4263]

We need to start a poll on Nicks most popular student, Anna or Shamir?

[@jvcelt]

explosive..... fire out....

[@zm453]

Shamirr you're breaking the car 😅

[@igo2054]

maybe Shamir should pracite SABR to have a better return

[@JV-py3lg]

Lefty here 👋 don’t run around my serve

[@IntuitiveTennis]

Haha never ☠️

[@s13n7ki11l3r]

lol around 15:00 seems like bloopers

[@shanmugasundaram6625]

17:45 LOL

[@Didymus1984]

4:06 - 😂😂😂

[@SOGSouljah]

The timing and everything about this is pure gold... The way coach looks up, the birds chirping, lmaooooo

[@Didymus1984]

@@SOGSouljah - I didn’t even factor in the bird chirping (at least not consciously). Hilarious.

[@gregfrancavilla3279]

I thought he was trying to be funny at first

[@davesubers3415]

This guy is a 4.0 player

[@rahuljoshi7759]

Trust me very questionable. I feel he is a solid 3.0~3.5

[@jvcelt]

i don't feel that he is being aggressive enough. i guess that's why i hit it out so often...

[@nikhilgoyal204]

This is a hilarious video. Shamir needs pro tip on butt positioning which the coach tries to address. Shamir Proceeds to smack a ball right in the face of the coach in a bit. 😂 coach is trying hard to keep Shamir on point and focus on execution instead of asking incessant questions.

[@GGGinJe]

Another court ruined with pickleball lines.

[@IntuitiveTennis]

😩

[@igo2054]

guys you do a lot of overthinking I can relate cause I do the same

[@mtshogo]

I thought Shamir was dead after he tagged Nick.. haha

[@adimperial]

When it's slower he has to move his feet more

[@deojeetsarkar2006]

Only if the video was precise to the topic..

[@Electiger-y5k]

Shamir forehand is so weak because it’s eastern. He should switch to semi western . Yes I know fed uses eastern but Shamir technique is garbage so he’s better of wit semi western

[@citiofbrass]

Shamir needs help with foot work and being more assertive. I've been there

[@BlackMagicBliss]

This kid was losing to a 3.5 player, accused him of trying to record him and rage quit their set. 4.0 nobody thinks he's a celebrity 😂

[@VrSword]

who?

[@Tennis214]

Cool story bro.

[@zetristan4525]

And for high kickserves, growth hormones so you can be like Nick. Never force it, so you don't hit coach in the neck🦒 This video's embarrassing to the poor guy. You have to take the ball inside the court so you can feed off the little pace and bounce it still has. Lean in and let your flexibility create your pace, spin and angle. Otherwise a good baseliner only welcomes you hitting it hard to his court.

[@Isusasaves]

Talk less, reps more. He is getting half the lesson for his money.

[@Tennis214]

You’re not factoring in all the edits. We’re not seeing every rep. In most of their sessions Shamir is gassed at the end.

[@drakedescher8329]

I disagree completely. You can practice hitting and reps with a wall or any random friend or person you play with. Lessons are trying to fix the issues you have in your game whatever they may be. This was very informative for me so surely Shamir got his money out of it

[@cp4christo]

I love the Shamir episodes but his fast twitch muscle fibers need some work :)