How To Avoid Frame Data In For Honor 💯

[@FourEditsYT]

This is definitely the wildest mechanic in the game, this basically allows you to avoid frame data and allows you to end your chain with light attacks and simply back dodge so that it's not your opponents turn because they basically can't stop you from back dodging. subscribe to the channel and turn on post notifications, also join the discord ... Channel - kzbin.info/door/_gg92dmRYbPVwjw2vQGJng Discord - discord.gg/MFjFffVSxF

[@yuhboi8381]

Can you show your gear for orochi it looks tuff

[@rafaelmoisesbezerradasilva7271]

We want to see you playing a Full gameplay in Dominion and Duel. Please... :)

[@rinz9684]

Been playing this game for 2 years and now i realise how little i know about this game. this man is enlightning me with his knowledge keep it up bro

[@ITookYourBic]

I've been playing off and on since beta lol

[@ITookYourBic]

@@MommaAnarchy nothing about frame data though lol and he's showing roach that has the back dodge in move set. Not every hero can do that

[@ShichiNanaSeven]

Same, been playing since orochi since the beta, and never even thought or heard of this tech. Keep up the great work.

[@incredibilsmain2442]

@@MommaAnarchy All they say is how the character can attack

[@BigLarger]

Watching this channel is like opening pandoras box of forbidden game knowledge

[@Blurgamer17]

The power...To kill a God.

[@vermeilscott4791]

I find it funny how once the devs realize that faster recoveries make characters better. They just start slapping it on everyone’s kit. Just like how they did with hyper armor.

[@MineScape_Marvels]

Dude, you train there like you are an anime super villan lmao

[@FourEditsYT]

gotta warm up some how 😂

[@kevdup5109]

Basically frame data helps decide who’s “turn it is”

[@FourEditsYT]

exactly and it’s supposed to be your opponents turn after you end your chain with a light, but these characters don’t follow those rules so if your opponent tries to get a turn they get punished hard for it. frames don’t matter when it comes to these characters, it’s always their turn

[@praisethepugg4950]

@@FourEditsYT Can gladiator be one of those its always their turn characters?

[@FourEditsYT]

@@praisethepugg4950 no you need recovery cancels

[@Jondaliner]

At least it's not like you get frame advantage using this. You just basically reset it back to neutral unless the opponent just keeps going for whiffs like displayed here. I don't think it's too big an issue. Those characters aren't the top picks for duels anyways (aside from Orochi, but most of them aren't that great), so I'm not too worried.

[@FourEditsYT]

yeah that's true, the player who's using this strategy forces you to play their game ( sends the game back to neutral and slows down the fight to their liking ). it's also going to be much stronger when orochi gets the rework because the kick will come into play as well, also getting a guaranteed light after pretty much every attack will always set orochi up to use this technique

[@Jondaliner]

@@FourEditsYT yeah resetting to neutral isn't fun. But the game is definitely more developed for 4s compared to duels which is why I think this is good for the hero to have the dodge cancels. Maybe with the changes to allow his storm rush to work on the forward dodge would get rid of the need for the back dodge variant. But at the same time, that would make it harder to get into the riptide strike. So who knows what to do lol

[@Jondaliner]

@@FourEditsYT also just realized your profile pic is Kaguya lmao nice

[@FourEditsYT]

i also think it's a good tool for the character to have in 4s as well because the character definitely isn't anti gank or isn't a stalling character by any means, so i do believe the character should have this tool to flow in outnumbered fights. and yeah i love naruto, i recall someone doing the minato strat with lb and jj the other day haha

[@Jondaliner]

@@NeoNaito not for duels. In 4s I agree

[@dominicbrunsmeier7830]

I didn't even know Orochi's could do this.... what have just unleashed on this god forsaken game!?

[@Rif_Tv_Gaming]

Lol its in the movelist

[@stretchwheel9958]

Idk I've seen plenty of orchi mains do this on console I'd say like 20%

[@dominicbrunsmeier7830]

@@stretchwheel9958 I've only seen a small 10% use it effectively. And I never knew why. This explains so much.

[@blueberry4209]

Every good orochi main knows this and will use it (saying it as one myself) it's just that we're quite rare

[@jequiti6057]

Best strat here is heavy feinting into light parry. That wont work forever, they will stop throwing lights at some point but at least you are not being punished anymore, just resetting (which still sucks)

[@nsgswitchblade1455]

This is officially my favorite For Honor video out there now. "So now that you know this forbidden technique-all of you light spammers & sweats-you can go ruin someone else's experience while playing this game." 🤣🤣🤣 Pure gold.

[@happydysonfan1009]

i love this channel, haven’t found it until a couple months ago. super useful, interesting and funny videos! i would love to have a real voice tho, a bit difficult to listen to the auto reader :)

[@spaghettisnake2238]

That moment when you main Nobushi and Zhanhu Wheeze

[@sittthugyii6514]

I really didn't't know what that recovery thing does, I just saw other good orochi and tiandi players does this after most of their attack. So I did it without thinking twice. It really paid off.

[@CircusGang]

NOW THIS IS THE CONTENT ur channel needs! Great informative video!!! All subscribers and non subscribers subscribe for the fact that u just learned ONE of the most important things in the game 💯💯

[@rune5416]

This is why the game needs an updated tutorial

[@shadowthunder3]

Now that you’ve uploaded this I have a feeling I’m going to be seeing more Orochi, Tiandi and Zhan..

[@theherbivore8494]

I feel like frame advantage should be showed in tutorials that also need an update

[@stealthkillz3114]

Orochi mains are studying this video hard as fuck, I reckon.

[@BatKitKat]

Oh dear god. The amount of pain that will be sown with this… well I know who I’m gonna be practicing after they finally get their re-work implemented.

[@FourEditsYT]

why wait, call now and we'll throw in 5 guaranteed rage quits with this offer

[@BatKitKat]

@@FourEditsYT Cuz I’m having too much fun with kyoshin right now. But when they make orochi more fun to play, then I’ll be sure to remember this busted mechanic to troll with.

[@Bash_Minimal]

Really sucks how each new rework seems to be built around different rules. Most of the cast struggles punishing heroes who dodge attack out of your chains with anything other than a parry even when you see it coming from a mile away (usually for a light punish against dodge heavies), but then all the recent reworks for orochi/shinobi, and conquerer can just flat out ignore dodge attacks and neutral dodges alike with how many multi directional+in chain undodgeables they’ve been given.

[@Quarterspine143]

Yo, I've been finding Deathmatch lobbies on PS4, shit's wild these days. Almost as wild as the Knights being real close to winning 3 seasons in a row (in terms of the faction war).

[@griszrox]

Majority of vikings refuse to participate in faction war because the feature is just not working, it's not going to change untill ubisoft does something about it and fix it.

[@-Oclock]

damn, i kept wondering why my assassin character back dodges were ass... this is broken tech, so glad nobody knew this.

[@oneofevery9365]

Also there is a fun fact about hitokiri She can half charge heavys Let me explain You can do a normal heavy 24 dmg slow But you can do a charged heavy Around 35 I (forgot) dmg And opponent has to doge or parry Its insanely slow and guarantees a guard brake after dodge and you know what comes after that Now half charge is pretty slow and does everything a normal heavy heavy does But with the half charge You can bait your opponent into a panic parry they will watch the indicator Not hitokiris animations or the sound affect she has in her heavys So if the indicator is red they will attempt to parry But what will happen is that they will hit the hyper armor of the half charged heavy and you will do something that is called a trade Keep in mind that hitokiri is a heavy class Wich means she has more health then most other heros so You can win by just spamming or should I say half charging the heavys By just trading non stop

[@Artorias-The-Wolf-Knight]

Shugo can do the same thing, cent aswell, its been known by most of the community

[@oneofevery9365]

Fallout117654 warden, warmommy, and even hitokiris kick But the reason I pointed hitokiris half charge heavy Its because its just the same move over and over and when I say same move I dont say: Wardens shoulder then slash Warmommy slap and poke Cents punch and slash Shugokis bonk What I mean is Hitokiris heby, heby, heby, heby, heby, heby, heby If you cant catch on what im trying to say Shugokis bonk has 2 chains The rest that I mention is bash and attack, bash and attack, bash and attack (the same goes for hitos kick) But hikorkiris is just heby, heby Just the same button that has no end into it Only when you run out of stamina At least shugoki has limits, at lest the other 3 have to bash first to do dmg Hitokiri can just have at it And that is the reason I just pointed out hitokiri out of all Cuz its un believable stupid and un fun Like Was she seriously like this when she came out

[@Artorias-The-Wolf-Knight]

@@oneofevery9365 I wasn't talking about charged bashes, i was talking about chargeable heavies, and it can still be done infinitely with cent aswell, semi charged heavy, semi charged bash + confirmed light, into semi charged bash, which catches dodge attacks just like hito. It might not have the same effect and yes she has an infinite, just saying it can still be used. (Side note: stamina on hito is never an issue thanks to his tier 1 and 3 feat, shes a walking thunderdome)

[@oneofevery9365]

Fallout117654 ohhhh Ohhh yeaah cent can also charge heavys I forgot But not that I am wrong tho And yeah those feets are broken on someone like hito whos hole purpose is to disable people for attack’s

[@Phoenix_KDE]

🤣🤣 Got me in tears from laughing Man... The days of year one 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Jeb21]

the struggle of lb trying to catch orochi is real lmao

[@katsuo2673]

At this point, For honor is just CBT without the CBT if everyone does this

[@pdthepowerdragon5412]

I play quite a bit of Tiandi, and this is the thing that needs to go on neutral attacks. It’s just so dumb. Even as Tiandi the ultimate troll I refuse to exploit this.

[@superdave8561]

No wonder why I've seen a lot more people playing those characters.

[@EvermoreUnicorn]

Notification bell brought me here a minute late and then gave me 2 unskipable ads bruh I just want to watch this fire content

[@FourEditsYT]

yo my fault but i’m crying, that’s so funny … thanks and thanks again 😂

[@eyedol4835]

This information is terrifying

[@sirwillathan6646]

This video was very informal

[@oxburngca544]

Idk how but this guy has all the right tips all the time

[@sleepingforest5520]

Felt like this was common knowledge

[@JustAKool_guy]

This guy just revealed orochi's biggest secret, only the true mains know this and the real potential it has once you discover it. It takes many hours of playing with a character to realize it.

[@devonrounds5583]

Or sitting down and reading through the character’s movelist for about 30 seconds

[@theyeetcrusade6207]

This man just broke the eight seal.

[@Goddess_Ishtar]

Im baffled by the timing of soft feint hurricane blast into another deflect

[@Elexiin]

this also works with conq was one of the reasons i got GM: 30-40 without bash spam

[@AnimePrince03]

"have fun pissing everyone in the game by doing this sh*t" 😂😂😂

[@DaedricHeals]

I'm so happy that zhanu and tiandi has the back doge scate, now with this info time to see what I can do with it.

[@cry9303]

You are what’s wrong with the community💀

[@DaedricHeals]

@@cry9303 oh no worries knowing my luck and forgetful mind I'll either get gb teleported by the enemy or just forget I can do it :/

[@OtsdarvaOS]

Not gonna say I didn't know this, but I will say I didn't know the specifics that the CCU gave the game. For example, being a light combo puts you at a frame disadvantage. Maybe in my caveman brain I kind of know it but don't really think about it or actively know it as I combo a lot of stuff from my heavies with Valkyrie. As for the dodge with Orochi, I knew this too but I don't see people in my bracket using it ever, not to mention I guess I never figured out how to do it ever either. That you had to -finish- to activate it. Thought it was on heavies only I think.

[@hashiriya7698]

The tiandi one is a must in his kit, after a light you can dodge cancel into dodge light to catch people who dodged palm strike on prediction. I don't think that the mechanic is busted, it is what it is, just looking at tiandi's or orochi's kits, they're just not too good, especially orochi. With tiandi you have a bash with a frame disadvantage light, frame disadvantage light finishers, and normal not enhanced neutral lights. After 51 not with him i say that defence is his best tool. But the offence is just not so good, if you encounter a PS5 player you cannot attack, you have to try and bait him and hope he does parry on red But if you really want frame advantage, just use warmonger.

[@MrWiibetrollin]

Miss Shugoki’s HA hugs. Knocked Orochi out of that Weeb shit

[@unknowingreaper6556]

Tiandi main rep66 and never knew this. Time to ruin people’s days.

[@uniformslinky]

“just block” me who plays on 20 fps:

[@TheAorakiller]

mfw when i have been doing this on orochi without even realizing it

[@tunahan9847]

Yo this some forbidden jutsu shit

[@bigredmarchingon3200]

So ubisoft has no idea how to make a fighting game...thats explains alot about this game

[@hasanplaster1510]

It can be fixed just by making the back dash like Shinobu back dash Or just making it a side doge you cant doge backward Anyway its just a neutral And the frame adv of getting hit by a light its not a big deal And the game is not really effective by the f adv like nost fighting games Like getting in -f is not bad the most bad thing that may happen is getting mix between bash or attack

[@Baguette0001]

What happens if you walk backwards while doing a heavy/heavy finisher to advance after the opponent did the backdoge into attack.

[@RD-2709]

Actually every light spammer's wet dream is finally getting their first girlfriend

[@hanoli7933]

I already hated CCU but now i fucking despise it

[@Naruhiu]

It would be nice to see u destroy toxics in a video

[@ricardovazquez2274]

I stopped playing before the combat change and I just got back and can't even react to the light attacks,

[@Kogasengaha_Hishoshi]

3:06 MOST of the time, it still relies on timing. I've had so many situations with my roach after end combo finisher dash and warden,Warmonger, kensei ect any hero with good zone. Still get caught after my dash recovery cuz its slow af. Edit:I would go on and On and ON with Orochi on what is possible and what is not possible. Since I do like to train new Orochis to help them. Everything is reliant on timing and console frames/ping/latency of course. But Orochis dash recovery is also the slowest compared to most characters.

[@FourEditsYT]

no i'm sure that's just poor timing on your part, those characters can't hit you. i have never seen those characters be able to hit someone because they don't have the range to do so, only attacks that advance super far like nobushi and kyoshin's kick. not even roll catchers work and those have more range then zone attacks, you won't recover fast enough to hit someone with a zone attack while they are back dodging because you are still in hitstun when they first start dashing back

[@Kogasengaha_Hishoshi]

@@FourEditsYT Well for the most part when you wanna dash anyways, no ones gonna actually let you throw an ending heavy or light without parrying it lol I let go on my heavies quite often and it ain't gonna fly when I face a Tiandi. I myself ain't gonna 3 lightspam and possibly punished with last light parry heavy. Anything with Stormrush cancel parry or deflect works but it still relies on the timing and stunframes.

[@verrat3219]

orochi after the rework will be even more busted then

[@FourEditsYT]

because orochi can access the recovery cancels after landing a single hit because all hits guarantee a light attack, so you can either kick or back dodge

[@EvermoreUnicorn]

Best way to counter guard break? Heavy of course

[@FourEditsYT]

yeah if your opponent press any button, they eat a heavy. let it be known that it’s always your turn when you are playing one of the character i listed. you cannot lose if you play like this, this is actually aids 😂

[@EvermoreUnicorn]

@@FourEditsYT I play Orochi rep 60 so far waiting for rework to rep 70, I knew about this but I didn’t think it was this bad of a problem sheesh

[@birthdaysnake23]

Nooo my secret jitsu has been found

[@ixdffg3572]

Sometimes i forget female orochi is in the game

[@mercs5409]

nice

[@ChaosRevealsOrder]

Disable back dodge FORVER

[@ChaosRevealsOrder]

AND STEP-BACK ATTACKS

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

i haven't played for a couple years, does this still work in 2024?

[@soapywatermc]

What have you brought upon this cursed land

[@CognacMack]

You're my dad now.

[@MrSedrack]

Bruh, stop. Please. Lightspammers are horrible enough! Stop giving them more power. On the sidenote, HOW THE FUCK are you so good at this game?

[@jollygrapefruit786]

Is this still in the game or do you get GBd now?

[@theReason99]

Does this still work?

[@galidorn1]

roaches bitching they need buffs for years never made sense to me they literally control the engagements & disengagements

[@xxivancraftxxtutorialesyma7709]

Lol ok orochi

[@cameronrichner3108]

Yeah, this all looks cool until you're an average player actually attempting it /:

[@dwightedwards3859]

So wait what about berserker and PK?

[@dwightedwards3859]

Does it work for them too?

[@Sura077]

Unfortunately, all orochi's lights are 500ms so they are reactable even in chain, so someone who can light parry will punish this if you spam

[@canthesoul4626]

8 disslike from 8 idiot haters. Keep up your good work Bro 💪

[@ratick.g7869]

Can jj back Dodge work like this too

[@FourEditsYT]

nope

[@ugagoat]

I just spam heavys

[@blueberry4209]

Any orochi main already knows this, it's great for team fights as well as duels and since people don't expect it you can safely do a back dodge light to immediately start your chain again, orochi is still one of the weakest characters but using the recovery cancels makes them somewhat viable

[@GUMrawr]

Is there a large difference between TV and monitor when it comes to fh?

[@FourEditsYT]

it just depends on how much delay is in your tv or monitor, that's pretty much it. some monitors have 1ms delay and some have 5ms delay, it just depends on what you have

[@GUMrawr]

@@FourEditsYT what do you play with?

[@FourEditsYT]

monitor because i have a pc as well

[@Rif_Tv_Gaming]

My 65" has a 6ms delay and my other TV has a 23ms delay. My eyes didnt See any difference. I think to 1-20ms you dont get a big advantage.

[@FourEditsYT]

@@Rif_Tv_Gaming nah you definitely have an advantage on low delay, input delay is terrible. you won't notice it until you play on 1ms delay then try to go back to 23ms delay

[@kanakitakahashi2373]

I know how Im going to play now thank god for oversight :D

[@FourEditsYT]

you just going to ruin player's for honor experience like that ? that's tuff and funny af

[@kanakitakahashi2373]

@@FourEditsYT Well I play against bots because I find it more fun, but sure, anything to get the 1 up ^-^

[@FourEditsYT]

@@kanakitakahashi2373 yo bots ? those are so much worse than players, lv3 bots are actually ridiculous

[@kanakitakahashi2373]

@@FourEditsYT Well for some reason I do better (And rage less heh) against bots then people >3>

[@GamerzZone0212]

Best believe none of these broken mechanics can save you from my shugoki 😂🤣

[@idonthaveideaofname.-.5281]

Orochi op pls nerf

[@detroitmarja9378]

Wtf did I just watch 😭

[@EdgyDabs47]

I was wondering why sweaty orochis are so hard to fight. I never realised they backdodge so much until now

[@FourEditsYT]

i have never seen any orochi actually play like this besides me and meta, nobody else that i ran into does this. not with any character that i listed in this video

[@EdgyDabs47]

@@FourEditsYT there are definitely some on pc, idk about console

[@FourEditsYT]

@@EdgyDabs47 i mean of course people use recovery cancels but i mean after every string so you just avoid your opponents offense

[@EdgyDabs47]

@@FourEditsYT yeah, ive played against orochis that will triple light - backdodge and then go for a light parry if you try to punish the dodge. I never even realised orochi had a recovery cancel.

[@NotDalesDeadBug]

Lmao I see the for honor community finally discovered frame data

[@hylux7]

Now now this all looks aids... **But what if don't get hit in the first place?**

[@FourEditsYT]

tiandi and zhanhu doesn't have to hit you to back dodge, they can do it on whiff as well so that doesn't matter

[@ericvanrensburg1724]

Oof

[@Lil_Broomstik-_-]

Pane Or somtin