How To: Battery Installation on 10X with Battery Pouch

[@joaquinninoortega8023]

The reason you need to turn on two batteries is that these batteries has different Capacity or different brands. Its more advisable when making battery pack or adding batteries to a pack that you have same battery brand and same voltage. I know you have two different ports but what problem may arrive is when you drain your battery to the last volt. Li ion would exert until to last lower 2v or 2.8 when they reach that its dead! I don't really think most e scooter users really know this important information about battery.

[@danielxxgadd]

So make sure both batteries keep healthy charge always

[@bkanegson]

When will plug & play battery add on kit for Zero 10X become available from Falcon PEV? Would like to add to my 10X....

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes it’s a plug and play kit for the 10X

[@ariesdawson2164]

Falcon pev is the best high quality the battery bag fits great now i have double the range and delivery is a sooo fast to come from singapore to the u.s bro i highly recommend 😊 no more going home after first battery runs out for me lol🙏🏽

[@fatcatelectric]

Looks very simple just gotta follow everything you did and it can be done ✅ will try one day

[@Ichigotran286]

Just installed mine (got 52v 18ah). The video is a little out of date since my cable is different plus my external cable is different (this might varies depending on who you get the scooter since they loved switching some bits). Would recommend if you know or someone who tinkers with electronics within the scooter because if you plug it in wrong it could damage your battery. Lastly, it will make cable management HARD, you gotta force it down at the last step and force the cover back on to keep it down.

[@amd4lyfe]

Hey bro i have a varla eagle one which is a rebranded Zero10x and it has the 52volt18.2ah battery so which one did you get for yours? Would the 52volt 18ah external falconpev sells work for me?

[@Ichigotran286]

@@amd4lyfe Yea it should work. Both battery need to match volt and ah

[@577buttfan]

@@amd4lyfe did you ever do it I have a varla too?

[@danielxxgadd]

I have a question. So If I am watching this right you cannot just set it up to a external battery never have to switch between them. My Segway Ninebot external battery just clipped on and that's the end of it, one charger, one on/off, no switching between batteries ?

[@anatoliigrynchuk3325]

I think that the battery better to place as lower as possible...

[@577buttfan]

Nice will this work on the varla eagle one?

[@FalconpevSg]

yes its universal

[@peanutbutter8996]

Too confusing

[@johnvogt9637]

So if I get this for a Varla Eagle One and wire it parallel, will it charge when I’m charging my factory battery? Does the wiring harness for the 10x also fit the Eagle one?

[@FalconpevSg]

It’s the same for varla and zero 10x

[@noobz5056]

Without the switch they use you won't be able to charge both batteries. You will have to unplug one of the packs and charge it separately.. I don't recommend using a switch though. If you want both packs to charge at the same time you will have remove the BMS from one of the two packs, and directly wire. With two BMSs in the battery system it will cause conflicts and shut off the charging.

[@icognitorinsewashcheeto6022]

Nice tutorial bro. Do you think that this same setup would work with a dualtron mini. Do all escooters have positive and negative wires feeding from battery to controller and are they always yellow. If you could link me to a battery with the same 2 way connectors that could be used on the dualtron mini that would really help.😁🙏

[@reymiltatad4969]

does this makes the steering unstable and put more stress on the the folding mechanism of the steam?

[@FalconpevSg]

Good question. It actually improves balance especially at higher speeds as it helps to stabilise the front to prevent wheelies. But it also does add stress to the stem yes, that’s why we recommend to use a stronger folding clamp

[@reymiltatad4969]

@@FalconpevSg oh! that's good to hear! Been planning to add external battery but with aluminum casing mounted in the stem.

[@amd4lyfe]

So when both internal and external batteries are fully charged and in parallel do they discharge together automatically from internal to external or do i have to switch manually from the pouch controller switching from battery 1 to battery 2?

[@FalconpevSg]

in parallel, they discharge together. no switching needed. If you add a solid state switch like here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5uTpHutrLmCgLs then they will discharge one at a time.

[@rafanimechannel4953]

How many kilometer range of the external battery?

[@IsaacPoopsAlot]

will this also work with the vsett 10+?

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes it will

[@66AGW]

Hello! This scooters are whashable or not? Thank you!

[@shinjitran5946]

Any discounts and/or free shipping available to Canada?

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes we have discount codes available

[@willsimracing]

Hello, I'm not very good at electricity, I don't understand everything, it's two batteries so you have to switch to the other once the first empty is that right? and for the connection should not be made with the two batteries at the same charge level to avoid damaging them? Is there a risk of disconnecting and reconnecting the external battery as desired, even if it does not have the same charge level as the internal battery? thank you

[@UKMrMedical]

I agree

[@KM-ch1bc]

Will SimRacing because the 2 batteries are independent connected to the scooter will it not affect the other one, the same voltage is needed when you put the 2 batteries in line. Now you have a switch to choose the battery who give power to the scooter. That’s why the second battery have also an charging port. In my opinion it’s easier to connect them in line. The charging time will dubbel because you have to charge them at the same time.

[@lezmac3104]

I think this is the safest way, ( battery switch selection) which is charging and draining the batteries independently..whereas when you connect the two in series thus charging and draining them at the same time will create inconsistency and imbalance when charging and discharging because each has his own bms i think..thus complications may occur..

[@577buttfan]

@@lezmac3104 that's correct

[@philipw7058]

Good luck trying to get a bad battery replacement mine is still under warranty and they are playing games with me and no one is sending me a battery replacement

[@smoxesk]

did u ever sort this issue out ???

[@reginaldomaturino72]

How many amps is the battery, how much the total cost of the set up and where can I order it?

[@danielxxgadd]

Appears to have zero thought gone into rain

[@sahsal1x569]

to change between the two batteries when one does how to you switch do you press a button or do this long procces

[@FalconpevSg]

If you want to use a switch, check out our solid state switches here

[@razelltiglao105]

What if you want to used the 2 battery at the same time

[@FalconpevSg]

no problem, you can parallel them or you can use a switch like this: www.falconpev.com.sg/products/battery-solid-state-switch?_pos=1&_sid=b7a52f3bc&_ss=r

[@budlongpdx]

Falcon, do you have a video of how to connect these in parallel with no switches? I purchased two external batteries and they don't have switches. I am a little confused on how to hook up the external battery in parallel Also, was planning on putting one of the "external' batteries 'internally' to my 10x and it's not fitting inside the deck. TIA!

[@FalconpevSg]

Will do one for you

[@solsticex9010]

How can i add Powerbank für escooter? Externe Powerbank Can you make Video please?

[@FalconpevSg]

what size power bank? to what scooter?

[@Martin-ip3ux]

Can you add extra battery without a switch just connecting batteries in parallel?

[@rogerlane2282]

Yes you can. I don't know why this guys makes shit so complicated. You run two batts parallel and your scooter stays on 5 bars which seems and feels like for ever.

[@sireuc]

@@rogerlane2282 mate any chance you can give me a run down on how to make a wiring kit .. recently just purchased a extra battery And I wanna do this mod

[@pauleemoran9178]

Can you run both battery packs at the same time or only 1 in bored of scooter and then spear

[@Mike_Oxmall]

where do you buy the battery for 10x and how much does it cost?

[@otissjake]

Good question

[@snappyjunexzy]

Will this work for Ultron T108 too?

[@flhandster4395]

Interesting upgrade, however no replies thus far!?! Is this battery upgrade available as of yet? Thank you.

[@FalconpevSg]

Sorry for the very late reply. Yes it’s available now!

[@caseygoodrich9717]

Can we get an updated video as there is not a switch anymore.

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes stay tuned. It’s about time we did one but otherwise we have some instructions on our IG page @falconpev

[@caseygoodrich9717]

@@FalconpevSg Which port do I plug the external battery into or does it matter? I only got "one" cable for going into the external battery pack. The website just says installed in parallel I don't know what it means.

[@FalconpevSg]

@@caseygoodrich9717 the cables should all be labelled

[@caseygoodrich9717]

@@FalconpevSg They are labeled for going into the controllers on scooter but "not" into the external battery pack. I think its assumed you know which one and or it does matter.

[@FalconpevSg]

@@caseygoodrich9717 2 connectors that go into the controllers, 2 connectors that go to the internal battery and one connector that goes into the external battery.

[@orange42]

wrong switches. For this use there is a single switch that keeps the sides separate but switches both at the same time.

[@ptescreen18]

orange42 yes I was thinking that , bad design

[@FalconpevSg]

please teach us

[@orange42]

@@FalconpevSg A single switch can change everything so don't risk switches being in wrong position. 2PDT or 2PCO or even 3PCO if needed (why two leads per 7p battery?). Anyway, 2 pole, double throw with Centre Off - motor side middle, with batteries on the ends. Switch at one end one battery, middle both off, other end other battery. That's only change, rest looks totally impressive, good work.

[@FalconpevSg]

orange42 let’s get it done. Thank you

[@ptescreen18]

Falcon PEV please make this setup using 1 3position switch, I am in need , or I will start making them my self and selling them ahah

[@renceycaparas4047]

Noob here. How does it actually work? Once the first battery turn low, you turn on the other one? Or, are they continous?

[@FalconpevSg]

yes thats if you use a switch. Or else you can parallel both batteries directly

[@AnthonyTadle]

Do you have a kit for Apollo explore? Just curious .. ty

[@leoleeavfaigenblat3115]

Hi I have two controllers two motors , my original battery has two power cables (xt60) coming out of it , I can’t find another battery with two cables , can I buy a battery with just one and split it to two cables ?or will it overload ? Nanrobot d4

[@smoxesk]

DO NOT DO THAT IDEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@amd4lyfe]

I have a zero10x with a 52volt 18.2ah sinc battery but which external battery should i get from falconpev? Would the 52v 18ah external work ok?

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes that one will work 52V 18Ah external

[@smoxesk]

@@FalconpevSg i willl buy thanks

[@bangad8722]

Where can I buy the wire with the switch? I live in canada.

[@salihansazali8824]

Can i know where the shop at

[@norbertkoti5755]

hello how to install extra battery for zero 8 scooter. full description or full video of the assembly pls. thx

[@TheRival]

They literally said in the video that the process is the same for all models.

[@ELFLASHDUDE]

Do you sell just the wiring ?

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes we do

[@universaltoptechgroup1876]

Thank you learned alot very helpful video for updating battery range .

[@FalconpevSg]

Glad you liked it! Join our telegram if you have any questions:)

[@bryantv2812]

Can I use different volts and ah in a stuck battery in my scoote? Example 48v 10ah then in the future I want to add battery like 48v 13ah it will have a problem or not?

[@rogerlane2282]

I believe you can. I have done it with batteries of the same v and the same AH. This time I want to do a mix of one 10.4 AH and a 7.5 AH and run them parallel. I believe this is doable too.

[@RBRap22]

Hey! where can I buy the same or similar pouch bag for a similar setup? I own the Zero 10x

[@trontec150]

i was wondering too

[@tlj4999]

www.falconpev.com.sg/collections/accessories/products/zero-battery-bag

[@Kaickong]

where site can i go to ask for a custom battery bag

[@alexbabovicab]

Can you tell me please, when change brake pads on Zero 10x in KM?

[@smoxesk]

every 1800 miles

[@alexbabovicab]

@@smoxesk thanks😊

[@djcranium1210]

Silly question but can I add this battery to a Aovo pro scooter?

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes you can As long as you specify the type of connectors used and we will be able to tailor the wire harness to your specs.

[@BeautyPunknocker]

Is this the same for the varla eagle one

[@FalconpevSg]

What’s varla eagle

[@BeautyPunknocker]

@@FalconpevSg its an electric scooter thats almost identical too the zero 10x

[@FalconpevSg]

@@BeautyPunknocker these battery bags are universal so it should work with most scooters

[@jorgextream]

Hi, my scooter does not charge. the led stays green when plugged in. What could be the problem? I need help please

[@FalconpevSg]

jorgextream might be a charger issue. Try changing the charger

[@r34lfear]

Did u buy it new because it happened to me, u need to disconnect a yellow cable which are shown in this video then charge it for few minutes then plug it back in

[@martindelaet4640]

where can i buy the cable? and can i use it for 60v battery?

[@FalconpevSg]

Martin De Laet we don’t sell the cables only the external batteries

[@snappyjunexzy]

@@FalconpevSg ahhh so it's a DIY cable you made?

[@bgonzal]

Hello, i have Wolf Warrior X Plus scooter… i want to try to add external battery. My battery: 60v 21ah. I need external of: 60v 28ah battery. Can you give me the items all i need to complete the setup. Thank so much po kabayan 😊

[@FalconpevSg]

yes sure, you will need a bag, a kids bar, a parallel wire harness, a fast charger and of course a battery.

[@DethotheDon]

Soni need this where can i buy the battery

[@naryah22]

How far can an extra 52v battery go if installed as an extra battery for my 52v zero 10x? Thinking of doing the upgrade. Thanks

[@budlongpdx]

Double your current range

[@alexsidor3275]

@@budlongpdx 🤣

[@LDMQ757]

Would this work for my evercross H5? Anyone know please tell me I really would like to extend the range

[@FalconpevSg]

We don’t know what that is evercross

[@martinegilviera5655]

Nice video , you have the Link for buying bag , can'tnt find in AliExpress thx

[@halobaby48]

Will you be offering a smaller battery pack in the future for people that don't want to carry such a big battery?

[@FalconpevSg]

For which model

[@halobaby48]

@@FalconpevSg 10x

[@FalconpevSg]

@@halobaby48 and what size battery do you want?

[@ATICrossX]

Where can I buy the 3way switch and extended xt60 connectors? I don't see them in your shop

[@FalconpevSg]

RavenHR we only give them with the batteries not individually

[@ATICrossX]

@@FalconpevSg Ah, its shame, since I have extra battery that u would like to hook up

[@sepposantapukki1044]

Is it possible to put 60v battery pack if you have 52v battery in deck, and switch to other for increased power??

[@lesterg3330]

If u are talking about replacing your existing battery for a higher voltage battery, it can be done as long as the controller and all applicable pieces are rated for 60volts or higher. If u need more range volts aren't your answer. A higher mAh is. Simply put, Voltage will increase power and mAh increases range.

[@lesterg3330]

@Seppo Santapukki if the internal components can handle 60volts then anything up to that is fine. Just don't go over the 60volts or you will fry everything thats not rated for that much juice. Short answer you're good to go!

[@mrph678]

@Seppo Santapukki The zero 10x comes with a 60v version in it's collection and from what i've read there is no difference in the components so i would say theoretically you'll be fine adding a 60v battery. You'd just need to go into the throttle menu and set it to 60v in the voltage selection menu (P03) .. Hope this helps 😊

[@NeonMods]

Can I do this on my nanrobot d4

[@FalconpevSg]

Yes you can

[@NeonMods]

@@FalconpevSg would you mind posting links to these items

[@kamote4854]

What is the current rating of the switch used in this video?

[@FalconpevSg]

www.falconpev.com.sg/products/battery-solid-state-switch?_pos=1&_sid=b7a52f3bc&_ss=r

[@sherwincastillano1695]

Are you using 2x 3way switch for the selector of battery?

[@FalconpevSg]

Hi, this set up is still in test but we are using 2 x 3 way switch for this, however, the '3rd' option needs to coordinate with another :)

[@danjingenriquez1799]

Ive done this. But my switch heat up..

[@rashanedelvalle2018]

Hey guys! I just got a external battery from falconpev and I'm a lil confused. The wires you guys use for this video are not the ones I got. Can you guys help me out with and walk me through the process???

[@FalconpevSg]

Hello did you get the wire harness and also the wire adapter with the labels?

[@rashanedelvalle2018]

@@FalconpevSg yes I have everything that was included in the order..

[@rashanedelvalle2018]

But the wire harness you use for the video is not the wire harness that was sent to me..and the external battery has more connectors..so that's throwing me off...

[@FalconpevSg]

@@rashanedelvalle2018 try to follow the instructions on the label. This video is old so we do need a new video

[@rashanedelvalle2018]

@@FalconpevSg don't see any instructions...

[@trailhazen]

NEED THIS ASAP 💯

[@FalconpevSg]

Hayden Smith here is where to order www.falconpev.com.sg/products/external-zero-10x-52v-23-8ah-battery?_pos=2&_sid=c757f5d04&_ss=r

[@FalconpevSg]

Frank Bui it’s abit more complicated to ship the battery alone but if you are willing to Wait it’s possible.

[@snappyjunexzy]

Nice bro. Will this connector work on other e scooters like Ultron who has 60V 80A max discharge?

[@IO-HAWK-eScooter-Tests]

Hello can you tell me more about the specifications of the Battery switch control?

[@FalconpevSg]

yes sure, the basic relay which is a modified version of the anti-spark solid state switch can take 24-52V batteries at 180A discharge. The high rated relay can take up to 72V batteries at 300A discharge. both of these are manually operated by a control switch.

[@FalconpevSg]

You can check out our solid state switches here: www.falconpev.com.sg/products/battery-solid-state-switch?_pos=1&_sid=b7a52f3bc&_ss=r

[@alucardio1732]

can you do it for the kugoo b2

[@FalconpevSg]

yes we can. Check out www.falconpev.com.sg/products/external-zero-10x-52v-23-8ah-battery

[@jermainepaterson6747]

Can this been done with any e scooter

[@FalconpevSg]

Almost any

[@alanhelton]

Where can I pick one up for my 8x?

[@FalconpevSg]

Check link in description

[@johnunderwood8827]

do you av a shop and s where are you located so i can bring my scooter?

[@FalconpevSg]

Which country are you at?

[@johnunderwood8827]

@@FalconpevSg im in the USA

[@johnunderwood8827]

yo not in Cali somewhere on the west side

[@FalconpevSg]

@@johnunderwood8827 that’s too far from us. We can only guide you online but you will have to install yourself

[@philippeavrons1540]

Hi , it is possible to add an external battery 60V 25ah on my 10x 60v 21ah?

[@Ichigotran286]

You need the same V and Ah so if your is 60v 21ah then the external need to be 60v 12ah, LG or Samsung makes no difference.

[@ATICrossX]

@@Ichigotran286 I am pretty sure AH doesn't have to be the same, only V needs to be the same.

[@jesseh56]

Any confirmation

[@Hydropanic1]

Following....

[@richguy32]

what about zero 8/9?

[@FalconpevSg]

candysht it works for all models of zero scooter

[@Batteridoktorn]

@@FalconpevSg But zero 8 does not have dual motors so it will be a lot easier. I will attempt this in sweden at #batteridoktorn and maby use 52V.

[@anphotography1292]

Where do you get the battery bag?

[@FalconpevSg]

www.falconpev.com.sg/collections/zero-accessories/products/zero-battery-bag?_pos=1&_sid=b2b893264&_ss=r&variant=31220615544963

[@alucardcrimsonducker7945]

can you do it for kugoo b2 pro

[@FalconpevSg]

It works the same for kugoo or any other scooter

[@vripiatbuzoi9188]

Where do I buy the battery and the pouch bag? and is this available for 60V Zero10x?

[@vripiatbuzoi9188]

@@triburon1 That's the bag. What about the battery.

[@elchico1272]

where did u get the case?

[@FalconpevSg]

Here you go www.falconpev.com.sg/collections/zero-accessories/products/zero-battery-bag?_pos=1&_sid=16c990141&_ss=r&variant=31220615544963

[@naryah22]

How much is the price of the battery in USD?

[@budlongpdx]

580-700 usd

[@anphotography1292]

how much V and Ah is ?

[@FalconpevSg]

52V 46Ah, 23Ah internal and 23Ah external

[@TnTckoo]

if i dont have that LG sticker on batteries, then is nonbrand chinese batteries?

[@FalconpevSg]

I don't know. where did you buy it from?

[@TnTckoo]

@@FalconpevSg weebot

[@FalconpevSg]

TnTckoo we are not familiar

[@Batteridoktorn]

I have a zero 8 with batteries from Sinc

[@bkanegson]

Sincpower Chinese. 18 Ah. The larger 24 Ah LG battery is the higher option when purchasing.

[@frejusamon]

hello, good job. do you have a guy here in New york ( Bronx) who can do that for me on my Dualtron Thunder ??

[@topend162]

Did you get it done finally?

[@frejusamon]

@@topend162 No , and I sold my Dualtron

[@vripiatbuzoi9188]

Do you really need that many wires and two switches instead of one for this simple application?

[@FalconpevSg]

for safety purposes, we use 2 switches. these switches are not rates for high current. Each controller can probably pull about 25A or more and these switches are actually only rated for 8-10A.

[@vripiatbuzoi9188]

@@FalconpevSg Did you guys think about using a high current relay switch residing under the floor board that can be triggered by single low voltage thin wire going to the handle bars? That would eliminate the two switches and the back and forth power cable from the internal battery to the pouch and back since the switching will be done down there. That would simplify the wires by just needing two - a thick one for power and a low voltage thin one for the switching.

[@Buzzhumma]

Vripiat Buzoi yes its best like that . I am auto electric so you can get cheap relay but make sure it can handle 60v at least otherwise it will arc with big current and burn out .

[@Blox117]

i dont get the point of the switches in the first place

[@vripiatbuzoi9188]

@@Blox117 The switches make no sense to me either. Nor the extra wiring. All you need is to put the battery in a parallel circuit.

[@Reddevil3258-Q]

How many batteries are in the bag?

[@FalconpevSg]

Julius Robles 52V 18Ah battery

[@Reddevil3258-Q]

@@FalconpevSg thanks, i mean how many pcs of battery cell in the bag?

[@FalconpevSg]

That’s entirely up to how you design the battery pack. It’s not dependent on the battery bag.

[@Reddevil3258-Q]

@@FalconpevSg Thanks, i plan to make one but looking for a suitable bag. Atleast to have an idea for the storage. Thanks and merry xmas

[@bkanegson]

@@FalconpevSg Are you selling the wiring to add auxiliary battery? Interested to buy an additional battery and plug & play wiring to make it work.

[@nathanielhkelly]

Can I pay you to fix my scooter

[@swaveydavey1113]

Ima just get 36v battery charge it and find the female to male cable to connect it to my scooter and hope I can charge it while I'm riding...

[@FalconpevSg]

That sounds like a recipe for disaster, charging while riding

[@swaveydavey1113]

@@FalconpevSg nah I meant like for a more simpler way but tbh I wouldn't try to risk all that and try to charge it while riding, it may b possible tho, but for me it sucks I have a diff scooter so Im just tryna think of a simple way, I can get the battery but I only wanna use it for the charge and then pretty much charge it with the other battery, would b neat on the go def

[@MrGiodude17]

Where to buy

[@FalconpevSg]

Here you go www.falconpev.com.sg/collections/spare-parts/products/external-zero-10x-52v-23-8ah-battery

[@MrGiodude17]

@@FalconpevSg NO I want to buy the battery bag and the Xt cable extension make and female wire your use to connect battery

[@FalconpevSg]

@@MrGiodude17 we only sell those together with the battery

[@joshdm2001]

Does the switch come with battery and cables too? If not what switch do you recommend.

[@FalconpevSg]

@@joshdm2001 no we stopped using a switch because they melt

[@glennzenarosa2504]

Diagram pls

[@FalconpevSg]

Have your bought?

[@alexandreabashia]

good scooter but this process is very stupid. make it plug and play

[@amd4lyfe]

What is plug and play? This is plug and play already.

[@alexandreabashia]

@@amd4lyfeswapping battery should be much more easy, max 20 seconds. it's 2021

[@paulelep1119]

can i use the fast charger in charging the external battery?

[@FalconpevSg]

Paul Elep yes sure

[@paulelep1119]

also thus streetwheels already have this range extender?

[@paulelep1119]

i also sent a pm in your whatsapp for an inquiry thank you

[@whoami2708]

I was planning to do this on my hover-1 and an idiot crashed in to me with hes car he was coming so slow so I taught he was looking for parking I was coming up the hill about 12 mile so no to fast and this guy turn in front of me so fast I was able to react and he did to but he try to tell me I was coming to fast but this idiot didnt even put hes blinker to turn to the left I landed on tap of the hood with my arm and the scooter took all the damage lucky to have not gotten run over I got little shaked by the incident I didnt wanted to argue with this guy so i just left now having to buy another one since I bought this to not use public transportation to go to work and save some bucks who ever own one scooter just becarful

[@metrolima2584]

OLOL

[@TGUNNER79]

batree

[@TGUNNER79]

thanks for this!!!