Which Version of the Zero 10x (or equivalent) Electric Scooter Should I Buy!

Today I am trying to help you decide between the few options there are for the Zero 10x and the other scooters that share the same platform.
Prior to testing I always verify that P settings are using the manufacturer defaults and not limited.
Performance related settings for all 3 scooters were as follows:
P8 = 100%, P11 = 2, light electronic braking and P12 = 3, medium torque start.
Specification Measured/Verified by Electron Surfer
Reviewer Height/Weight: 5'10"(178cm), 175 lbs (79kg)
Make: Zero
Model: 10x
MSRP: $1,699, $2,159, $2,399
Warranty: 12-month
Motor 52v versions: 1,000 watt, dual
Motor 60v version: 1,200 watt, dual
Controller Output: 2x25amp
Display: QS-S4
Battery: 52v/18.2ah = 946.4 watt hours,Sinc cells
Battery: 52v/23ah = 1196 watt hours,LG cells
Battery: 60v/21ah = 1260 watt hours,Samsung cells
Charger/Recharge Time (advertised/observed): 2 amp on 60v, 1.7 amp on 52v (8 hrs, 5.5 hrs)
Tires: 12x 3 inch tubed
Suspension: Dual single spring, adjustable
Brakes: Mechanical on 18.2ah or Zoom Hydraulic w/140mm rotor
Water Resistance: Not listed
Weight limit: 330 lbs (149.7 kg)
Advertised Weight: 80 lbs / (36.3 kg)
52v/18.2ah Weight: 72.2 lbs / (32.7 kg)
52v/23ah Weight: 73.2 lbs / (33.2 kg)
60v/21ah Weight: 74.6 lbs / (33.8 kg)
Unfolded Length (LxWxH): 51x25x50 in (1295x635x1270 mm)
Folded Length: 51 in (1295 mm)
Deck Height: 9 in (229 mm)
Deck Clearance: 6.5 in (165 mm)
Deck (length x width): 19 X 9 in (483 X 229mm)
Handlebars from deck: 40 in (1016 mm)
Handlebar Rotation: 90°+
Handlebar Width: 25 in (635 mm)
Timecodes
0:00 Intro
0:49 What are the 3 Options?
1:16 Price vs. Battery Capacity
1:54 Acceleration Comparision
2:23 Weight Comparison
2:42 Braking Comparison
3:00 Hill Climb
4:17 Range Comparison
4:36 Comparison Graph
5:15 What Would I Buy?
7:20 Ride 52volt 18.2ah version
11:37 Ride 60 volt version
14:23 Deck Size
15:10 Close Ups
16:09 Lights at Night
16:25 Folding
17:19 Handlebars
17:48 Conclusion

[@JuanGomez-jt1uu]

Thank you for your information, it was very helpful!

[@josephdignam123]

Cannot believe this is the only video on this topic . Thank you

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thanks, I hope it helps some folks out!

[@DANKERBRIAN]

Thank you, this helps to make an educated decision!

[@ElectronSurfer]

@Brian Danker, I am glad to help out! Thanks!

[@dlloyd6300]

Great information thank you for taking the time to upload!

[@ElectronSurfer]

My pleasure!

[@ozbyt3]

Great review! Comprehensive! You're very underrated from view count. But I guess it's a fresh video. All the best

[@ElectronSurfer]

@OzByte, I appreciate that, I know review channels don't tend to garner the views sometimes and there are some very dominant, and largely sponsored, big channels out there. Thanks again.

[@MonkeyDude1999]

I searched and searched and FINALLY I found a great video about this topic. THANK YOU!

[@ElectronSurfer]

@Petru, glad to help and you are super welcome! Thanks!

[@chefgav1]

@@ElectronSurferLG have a terrible reputation in the battery world. World wide recalls everywhere.

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@chefgav1 this is a newer development from what I understand. Ive had great luck with LG cells.

[@akkeli9602]

Thanks man, without this video i would not be able to choose which one to buy

[@ElectronSurfer]

Right on, which one did you get?

[@rcadventuresoffical]

another great video!

[@uselesstutorials1153]

Great review! Thanks

[@ElectronSurfer]

Cheers!

[@zoltanrigo]

THANKS GREAT TOPIC

[@ElectronSurfer]

I appreciate it!

[@TimsElectric]

nice shoes!!!! :) Awesome idea :) :) interesting findings too ;) looking forward to a video on how to adjust the ride...I'm happy with my Varla ride but wonder if it's the best setup for me :) Cheers Tim

[@johnym1]

I'm planning on buying a Varla Eagle. It looks pretty solid. How is the Varla so far?

[@christiangarcia4928]

Video muy útil! Gracias

[@ElectronSurfer]

De Nada! Cheers!

[@leebrady6326]

Great information, thanks for sharing..

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thanks and I'm happy to help, do you have one of the 10x models?

[@leebrady6326]

@@ElectronSurfer ewheels Lightning

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@leebrady6326 how has that been for you? I have heard mixed results with people who bought from ewheels.

[@leebrady6326]

@@ElectronSurfer So far it has been good, but back tire not as true as I would like. Not too bad and I cannot really feel it's right side wobble... Seems to me these are the same as the Varla, Unicool, Zero, ApolloPro, and Techlife-all with respective their model names. Almost too much power at level #4 with 1,000 watt dual motors..I think mine has the sincpower 52V 936Wh battery. I weigh 230 lbs.. So I do stress it every time I ride it..

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@leebrady6326 I repaired a rear flat on a apollo that had a rear tire out of true. What I found was it had been tightened in at a slight angle. I loosened the nuts, got the axle to seat in all the way, and it rolled better. I did have the readjust the brakes as the disc was at a new angle.

[@zodiac_qld8018]

I like the scooter, but for the height of the deck. Can that be adjusted down, lower to the ground? I felt like I was stepping up to high when kicking it off. At 67 the lower accel, moderate speed and longer cruising is my deal. Another great vid, thanks mate. from Stephen "Down Under"

[@ElectronSurfer]

Hello Stephen from Down Under! Unfortunately you cannot lower the deck very much. In theory when you adjust the suspension it could change the deck height, I'll do that and let you know what I find. I do like the kickstart setting but with many of these high deck scooters I end up changing to zero start (live at a stop) because kicking off is awkward. Cheers!

[@geestang2662]

How is your steering in the 10x is it tight or easy to turn, could you make a video on parts and adjustments also cable dis brakes

[@ElectronSurfer]

@GeeStang, I"ll try to get that video up next week. One of the 10x's is easy and the other is almost too tight to be safe to ride. That adjustment is not very easy and may be a stand alone video.

[@masulubonak9275]

U keep stuttering but you've really done a great comparisong and very informative review thanks ✌️

[@ElectronSurfer]

Funny you say that, my channel was going to be Electron Stutterer.... you really should lead with the compliment before the insult. Cheers!

[@masulubonak9275]

@@ElectronSurfer im not insulting you >_< sorry though i thought you need more moral support and have confidence man cause your doing it right, you've laid out mostly the important points in your review, keep doing it well man ✌️

[@BIGBUD71]

2yrs later my 10x 60v...still kicking it 👍🏻

[@ElectronSurfer]

Awesome, the battery cells in the 60v were great, they just last and last! Cheers

[@allistairtrent]

I love mine also and just ordered the 72V one with 2 x 4500W motors.

[@andrewwhite1065]

Maybe a phone accessory manufacturer has a non-refective plastic screen protector that could be modified to fit? And im definitely buying that heavy duty clamp when i get my 10x 60v version, hopefully soon.

[@ElectronSurfer]

That's an interesting idea, I feel like quality and readable displays are a place very much lacking on some E-scooters. Have you ever tried the Vsett's? They tend to be a nice step up from the Zero line in most aspects.

[@sokre988]

My sweet spot for low speed/ smooth start/stop is ECO/ SINGLE/2. Speed motor option, I really enjoy it sometimes. It reminds me of like driving any Xiaomi scooter, lol, with very promising range. When I want speed, TURBO/ DUAL/2. or 3. Speed motor option. I have a 52V, 18.2Ah model. My question is, how do you activate regenerative breaking? Is it a front brake lever or aft one? Does it work when I'm in single motor mode or dual motor better?

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thank you for sharing, its fun to have those start options. Here is a link to Revrides P settings (revrides.com/blogs/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-your-zero-scooter-lcd-settings). I personally ride with it set really light, the stronger electronic brake settings feel really unnatural to me, but that is the beauty of being able to change it to your liking....Cheers!

[@sebulbathx]

Great comparison. I lean towards buying one of these scooters but I am not sure which one to buy or if the battery differences is worth it. Thanks!

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thank you, its not an easy decision. If you really like hydraulic brakes that is easier. If you want more speed go 60v. I think most people will be totally happy with the base level option.

[@sebulbathx]

@@ElectronSurfer Thanks for the reply👍🙂 I think I want hydraulic brakes. It seems better in every way and since the speeds will be a bit higher from the Xiaomi M365 that I currently have hydraulic brakes feels like the right choice. And narrows it down to only two models to chose from. Got to think a bit between those two models especially if I really need 60V battery which also price-wise is a step up. 🤔

[@spoonsarefun]

@@sebulbathx I upgraded mine to hydraulic for under 50usd

[@sebulbathx]

@@spoonsarefun I ended up buying a Vsett 10. Really happy with it! 👍🙂

[@prototypeengineering8395]

Hi there~ It doesn't sound like you went into the P-Settings menu, and modified the braking factor, and/or some other tweaks that may have given insight to some of the anomalies. This is a crucial tuning factor for all of these escooters.

[@ElectronSurfer]

I did actually, if you see in the description I verified that each scooter had the exact same P-settings before doing this comparison. Thanks

[@izzydo3494]

I own a Valera Eagle One, and they advertise the motors to be 1000w on their website on a 52v 18.2AH battery, but on closer inspection, the motors are labeled 60v 1200w, so they must have customized the battery/motor combo over the Zero 10x line up

[@ElectronSurfer]

Interesting, I have never seen motors used that don't match up to the voltage. It could be a good things as the motors should get less stress than they would otherwise, thanks for the heads up.

[@spoonsarefun]

@@ElectronSurfer evolv pro same deal 60v 1200w on the 52 18ah.... no complaints.... love it

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@spoonsarefun right on thanks, it's a solid scooter platform, I've seen some beat to hell and still working perfectly! BTW I think spoons are great!

[@spoonsarefun]

@@ElectronSurfer same I've been taking it off road 10ft tabletops from 10ft ramp no problems. Loctite and replace alum Allen head bolts as they get loose a few times to save from stretching out bolt holes otherwise no issues. Suggest 80-20% rule for best battery longevity

[@mmante78]

I have the Voromotors Mantis pro se, but before purchasing the Mantis, revride's base 10x was one of my few choices. In your opinion did I choose the right scooter for the price range? And lastly what's a better overall ride between the two. Thanks!

[@ElectronSurfer]

Ride is really determined by your weight, to me the Mantis is quite firm, however that all depends on what surfaces you ride. I personally like the way the Mantis feels a little better than the Zero 10x, mostly because the Mantis is 10 lbs lighter. I do think RevRides is a notch above VoroMotors on customer service. I don't think you made a bad decision at all especially if you got the Mantis when they had it discounted.

[@mmante78]

@@ElectronSurfer thanks and keep up the good work. Your video’s really help people like me about what’s going on in the e-scooter world. Been a follower now for a year since you’ve done the Dualtron Mini review.

[@supersonicspeed9]

LG cells are perfectly fine and will be more reliable than generic cells, but there is always gonna be points of failure, one weak cell can throw off the whole package regardless of brand. Did you make sure each scooter used the same P settings for braking and acceleration?

[@ElectronSurfer]

I always verify the P-settings before testing...I'm a scientist come on (just kidding). I just listed them below in the description for reference. Thanks!

[@ullvide123]

I have one zero 10x but i dont now whitvh of them it is how can i know it? Regards

[@ElectronSurfer]

It is based on the battery and brake combination. Mechanical brakes, definitely the lowest option. Hydraulic brakes, can be either 52v or 60v. I'd check your display and see what you voltage reading is.

[@chrisandshazza01]

I’d be in full power for when that pit Bull runs out and tries to eat you. That’s the only problem with slow scooters, you’re at the mercy of dogs 🤣 If there’s a price difference I’d prob buy the cheaper zero and put on a steering stabiliser and bigger/stronger stem bracket for a safer and more enjoyable ride. Great vid 🤘🤘

[@ElectronSurfer]

The dog issue is a good point, dogs seem to hate scooters even more than bikes and I had to outrun my share of dogs on my bike as a kit. There is a big jump from the low end 10x to the middle so I would tend do to the same as you. Thanks!

[@sammyfuentes2561]

Hi iam looking to buy one but I got a cuestión do they come with the name printed on the scooter cuz I have someone saling me one and it don’t have nothing in the top like the name and I think is a fake one .

[@ElectronSurfer]

The 10x style has a whole bunch of non-branded options so it could be a legit scooter but not a Zero. If the motors have the 1000w or 1200w stamp and same display, it is likely ok. The question mark will be the battery, it is usually just a small sticker unless you want to open the deck up to see what the cells are. So it probably isn't fake but also likely not a Zero. Most all branding on these are sticker/decals that can be removed with a heat gun and patience. My advice is look it over closely and ride it if you can.

[@PhilipChristian]

You could dial down the power setting in the 60v model, so you would get the higher speed but less torque that you're complaining about.

[@ElectronSurfer]

Haha well I suppose that is true but I do love to complain...I even have a segment just doing that in some videos! For my riding style (wuss) and weight (light-ish) 60v is just more than I'd ever need. Thanks for commenting!

[@LeeShand]

Awesome Review. Anyone know where i can get one of these in the US and they are in stock. This video has shown me the way!!!

[@ElectronSurfer]

@Lee Shand, if you live in California I have 2 of the ones I bought for this video still. I think RevRides will be stocking them but not all of the battery combinations. The Varla Eagle One is basically a base 10x with the Zoom brakes, so could be a good compromise.

[@LeeShand]

@@ElectronSurfer Yeah I found a vendor. My only concern is I am 220lbs. Was a bit worried about the weight.

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@LeeShand You should be just fine, 300+ lb folks do well on the 10x's. Let me know how you like it!

[@michaelbesler7469]

I have had more LG battery failures and no Samsung and a few sinc brand. Also I prefer more power and not to use it then to ride my scooter maxed out all the time. 60v over a 52v

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thanks Michael, it's good to have a brand with options like thr 10x for sure, thanks for chiming in on batteries. I see very few battery issues overall and wonder if the cell shortage will affect future battery reliability.

[@Maykay1312]

I can get a zero 11x 32ah for 2560$ in europe xd shiping and customs included suposedly

[@MrCvjetko]

Would you recommend the 18AH version are these batteries bad?

[@ElectronSurfer]

I haven't seen any problems with any of the battery options, Varla uses the same cells in their's and people seem really happy. Keep your batteries stored in a relatively stable environment and keep them charged appropriately and you should be good.

[@MrCvjetko]

@@ElectronSurfer what is the advised tire pressure for a 10x with stock (factory tires)? I read 50 PSI Which is 3,4 bar but is this actually proven good in day to day use?

[@spoonsarefun]

@@MrCvjetko yes

[@gusruz2001]

I live in San Diego where can I get one.

[@ElectronSurfer]

RevRIdes still has them, if you were in NorCal I still have one with only 16 miles on it.

[@gusruz2001]

@@ElectronSurfer how much

[@t04168]

Why still zero scooter? This scooter has been introduced for four years. The configuration is outdated. However, it is the same plant as vsett. I think there should be very little improvement in the future of vsett. Compared to the similar DT Kaabo plant

[@ElectronSurfer]

I uploaded this video because this is essentially a Varla Eagle One and also more and more Zero 10x's will be available used as people upgrade.

[@bmbaretopndc]

Get the VSETT 10+ instead. In the same price range, it has better design and will save you headache and hassle.

[@ElectronSurfer]

I agree that the Vsett 10+ has a better design. I will say that it isn't for everyone, it is a bigger footprint than the 10x and also you don't have a 52v options if you want something that isn't 60v. Thanks for the comment!

[@bmbaretopndc]

@@ElectronSurfer and the reason someone would prefer a 52V battery over a 60V battery? The footprint? The better stem/folding mechanism alone compensates for that. Throw in the turn signals and no longer having to worry about replacing the charge ports when the side-mounted ones get bent from either laying the scooter down or otherwise banging into something. Plus the improved kickstand. Plus the standard 3" tires. Plus the standard hydraulic brakes. Plus the IP54 water resistance rating. The horn is a little rinky-dink. I say all that to say if you think the VSETT 10+ has too large a footprint, you could always go with the VSETT 8+. Still a better choice than the 10X.

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@bmbaretopndc I'm not arguing, I agree the Vsett has a better overall design, I just don't think you can say it is better for everyone because of that. If you want a lot of comfort and don't need 60v speed, the 10x can work well. 52v vs. 60v: You will get more range for the same watt hours with lower voltage. The 10x also has lower wattage motors that the Vsett, so potentially more range.

[@milordas]

VSETT 10+ , that version

[@ElectronSurfer]

I sure hope you never get on Let's Make A Deal, door number...huh! I don't agree that the 10+ is universally better, I had way more issues (handlebar, fender, display mostly) with the 10+. I personally don't like the under feet feel of the 10+ deck, mostly plastic and flexes. Both are solid scooter options.

[@terencegreen3399]

Emove cruiser is the best value for money

[@whoanelly-]

emove cruiser is not a very well built scooter.

[@JadeaRS4]

Apollo might be made at the same place but it's not the same. Way better

[@ElectronSurfer]

The one I rode at was pretty much the same in every way as the 10x, I am not doubting what you are saying though.

[@velixyz-void3508]

Give one to me ;) really need one :)

[@ElectronSurfer]

I sure wish I could but they are all sold now!

[@dj796]

having owned a few ...dont get a SINC (SNC) battery .. i have zero 8 and zero 9 on SNC ..rubbish !... 10x 60v on samsung/LG rocks (zero 10x, unicool or eagle ) both snc batteries lost PD voltage around 400km. .. effectively useless.

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thanks for chiming in, this is the first I have heard of the Sinc sells going kaput. I have had more Samsung issues but for me, zero LG issues. Cheers!

[@spoonsarefun]

2000km no issues on sinc, I play the 80-20 rule

[@user-cc6nr1nv9u]

hello. Give me a scooter, I really need it. Because in Ukraine I will never buy. Wages will not allow

[@crunkwun]

Scooter least of your worries at the moment bud

[@arthurpitts6204]

My MANHATTAN BUILDING just BANNED ELECTRIC BIKES AND SCOOTERS…NONCOMPLIANCE RESULTS IN EVICTION….SUCKS….BATTERY CHARGERS NEED TO BE FEDERALLY CERTIFIED.I REMOVED MY ZERO 10X AFTER 2 YEARS OF OWNERSHIP

[@ElectronSurfer]

That is ridiculous, I don't understand banning clean great micro-mobility. I do agree that down the road all batteries should be UL listed but that will make them even more expensive. You could try one of the ebikes with the battery in the downtube, hard to tell it isn't a normal bike?

[@mpg869]

They cannot do that legally

[@mpg869]

They can make you get renters insurance which u probably already have. Fuck them!!