How To Be A COMPLETE A**HOLE at shows

My tips for concert ettiquette! Don't get crowdkilled.
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[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

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[@pekerhed101]

Have you considered posting your vids on Rumble? KZbin's been going hard on ads lately...to the point of ridiculousness. So I'm pretty much over KZbin by now. But I'd still like to see your excellent vids.

[@Grimeyhoob]

Man - some of my worst experiences with fans in concerts. 1. Lamb of god in London - I was sitting due to a back injury from the gym, and had the misfortune of sitting next to a loud couple where the wife was grinding her other half seated down so all I could see was the grinding and less of the gig. 2. Pantera in Amsterdam - recently, was the subject of racist abuse by a bunch of skinheads. 3. Korn in Rotterdam 2002 - a dude kept smashing my friends head in the pit for no reason. He wasn’t even part of the pit, this guy kept throwing punches around 4. Rancid in London, 2008 - full on brawl due to a bunch of skinheads who were abusing us and made the mistake of fighting my much bigger friend who knows Kung fu. Got pulverised but my friend was acquitted through cctv cameras which showed the skinheads threw the first punch and we merely reacted - with full force

[@jaew000]

The only show etiquette is when someone falls in the pit, you pick them up.

[@ghoulthebraineater]

Amen.

[@apl2606]

The holy rule.

[@reneelisardo9502]

And when the crowd surfers get dropped

[@jondoe268]

If I fall back down you're gonna help me back up again.

[@chasm9557]

It's kind of like a hockey game. You can act out a little bit, but if you act like a shithead someone's going to knock you down.

[@mrsnrub282]

Finn: Wear deodorant at shows Also Finn: You can shit in the pit

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

the most fragrant show i ever attended was a Subhumans show. best circle pit i've ever been in. such a blast. the smell was INCREDIBLE.

[@mdd050]

Actual show rules- 1- if someone falls pick them up 2- protect the small people 3- don’t grope people in the pit 4- don’t throw your drink 5- if you give out disrespect, expect to receive it back double 5- worry more about yourself more than others 6- if you make yourself the center of attention, don’t expect that attention to be positive.

[@SethHMG]

So it is written, so it is done

[@JM-fo1te]

But drinks are always thrown

[@NOFXfrontman]

Number 4 is not a rule

[@MileHighGrowler]

Being 40, I still love getting up by the front, but I'm over getting drinks thrown all around the venue. I just want to get back in my car sticky and smelling like stale beer any more.

[@mdd050]

@@MileHighGrowler yep, I’m 39 and basically feel the same. I’ll still jump in the pit and I don’t mind getting covered in sweat (it’s unavoidable) but driving home in beer soaked clothes because some idiot decided to lob the second half of their 8 dollar domestic… nah.

[@SportsMetalBizkit]

Finn: "I don't rly go to shows anymore and if i do, i stand in the back, waiting for it to be over" Also Finn: "SHOWS SHOULD BE DANGEROUS"

[@goldengrill769]

I think he is speaking from a Boomer POV that he wants kids to feel how he felt and not that he personally at age 45-47 or whatever needs that experience anymore, he needs to be a father and live through the night.

[@Nuka-Rebel]

​@@goldengrill769to be fair hardcore isn't known for it's nuance.

[@DSPsWifesBf]

Man, when I’m enjoying shows I don’t need some bro to elbow my nose.

[@michaelhaydenbell]

Ok? Not sure what hilarious point this is supposed to be making. He's just saying it's not for HIM anymore.

[@chasegimbel1904]

@@DSPsWifesBfdon’t go to hardcore shows then lol

[@toddstork8757]

The Andy Biersack "Here's The Thing" never gets old. Thank you to Finn for not letting us forget. Even on my worst days, that always brings a smile to my face.

[@jakethemajikdog369]

It's become a staple in my vocabulary lol

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

Whenever someone says it pops into my brain -send help.

[@elaceyb]

Every time I hear someone say “here’s the thing” I get a strong urge to repeat it back to them Andy Biersack style

[@TheMrCaden101]

I always use the "and you have a FAT ASS!" From the same speech 😂😂

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

😁😁😁@@TheMrCaden101

[@diegodante8643]

“Disrespect your surroundings” Everyday we stray further away from ADTR’s truth

[@HOOONIER]

If you didn't sing the breakdown after reading those lyrics get outta here hahahahaah 🎉🎉🎉

[@getsuga-oe9hv]

Went to a show, and in the first 5 seconds of the band starting to play, someone spilled beer all over me.... That's how you know the show is gonna be great!!!

[@nickmaatjes5611]

same here!!!! was with my girlfriend at a bad religion show and as soon as they started playing American Jesus as the opener and greg gaffin came on stage beer was flying all round and the crowd went nuts, fantastic show!!!!

[@cherrybomber69]

The fact that men feel bold enough to assault women in a room full of people and no one does anything ...

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Sad. That guy should have been put in the hospital.

[@Mr.briteside]

It’s a guy with long hair that go hit in that clip. This is the Inland Empire beat down scene so really no lines crossed here. Everyone in that room “gets it”. That’s why he didn’t get beat or arrested.

[@subparnaturedocumentary]

when FSU was around that wouldnt have been tolerated, just saying

[@hetsie9956]

At an Attila show some dude was punching some poor fella that stood outside of the moshpit. Suddenly like 5 dudes pile on top of that mofo and beats the crap out of him,. Then as they're dragging him out, one guys says "No, no it's cool, this twat was punching some kid for no reason!" - followed with a thumbs up.

[@ryfitadf4215]

The phone ban at the Ghost show was because they were filming for a dvd. Sounds reasonable to me if I’m honest.

[@suddenswarm5944]

they should have been clearer in their post, sounded way too boomer

[@richardponton3920]

If they think a shaky, crappy phone video is going to harm DVE sales... that's the most boomer crap I've ever heard.

[@zezuntxiduntxi]

I agree

[@QueLoKevin]

@@richardponton3920I think it’s more that it doesn’t look good on a professionally shot concert footage when it’s just a sea of people with their phone out

[@kingjellybean9795]

​@@suddenswarm5944the fact they are making a DVD is pretty boomer to begin with

[@ZANGELIX1263]

At a local show in Texas, saw this kid stage dive and face plant the concrete as everyone cleared away to avoid catching him. He got up, proceeded to climb on stage, and repeat the process 2 more times. Everyone parted like the fucking seas on each jump. Felt like a time loop or some shit

[@KIooS01]

The complexity of show etiquette: Enjoy the show, and let others enjoy the show their own way.

[@dammitammityo]

How Libertarian of you 👏

[@photobearcmh]

You make an important distinction between what's expected at a hardcore/metal show and what's to be expected at a pop or jazz show.

[@jayisapunk]

Jazz show frontman seductively into the mic: "Alright I want to thank everyone for coming out to hear Intimate Moments from a Tuscan Sunset. Now what I'd like is to split the crowd right down the middle and on my count lets have everyone charge at eachother. A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three-go"

[@lightningmonky7674]

LMFAAOOOOO

[@bigyodatheman]

This article wasn't written for a jazz website lol

[@rubberlover666]

I saw Bodybox a few weeks back and it looked like a lot of kids first show. One kid was livestreaming the show right in front. He then decided to throw the remainder of his drink into the crowd behind him and then just start punching people near him. He was quickly escorted out. There's a line between dancing too aggressively and "the PCP is kicking in!!"

[@iiitzHimmy]

My only real obnoxious concert story, my wife and I went and saw Aaron Lewis pre-country genre switch and pre-MAGA talk. He was touring solo and it was an acoustic concert. Him doing covers and Staind songs. Two rows up for a solid 30 minutes it felt like, this women continued to scream “Play Black” over and over and over NON STOP. She was SUPER trashed. Eventually Aaron stopped the show and told her to shut the fuck up and he’ll play what he wants. They end up kicking her out, she threw up and left her purse. Rough night for her 😂. And then immediately after they kicked her out, he played Black. 😂

[@plusmin09]

WOW! That fucker kicked that girl, and then he punches her and the next couple of people just standing there?! Ya, I'm typically not for violence but I'm blown away none of those people defended themselves!

[@gmitchell5000]

Hardcore shows, sure yeah do whatever you want, but at any concert it’s pretty easy to read a room and figure out the etiquette

[@paulhardman2515]

I was at a Social Distortion show in the mid 90s with a buddy and he was crowd surfing with a beer in his hand. That buddy then decided to throw said beer at Mike Ness, covering him in bud light. Ness stopped the show and threatened to kick my fiends ass and then had him thrown out. I guess Mike Ness was ahead of the curve on show etiquette.

[@T.Maximus]

No finn, no butt-stuff at shows, that poop slinging went away when gg alin passed away.

[@DOOMxMD]

Best way I've ever heard this explained is that pit etiquette is just about awareness of your surroundings and of your weight class. Don't go for someone who you could put in the hospital, don't go for someone who could put you in the hospital. No one should be incurring medical debt because they went to see Bane.

[@jeffbell4434]

No one should be going to a Bane show in the first place.

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

to be fair, I got spinkicked in the face at a Living Sacrifice show when I was 14. the dude who did it was like three times my size, at least. that was a hardcore show, though, so I knew it was a risk. dude felt so bad right after though and kept apologizing to me. I was like "bro it's okay let's fucking go!". it was totally on accident. just collateral damage. long story short, best dentist visit of my life lol

[@sethnobles7311]

Saw Bane at Boston Roadrunner 6/18 this year, easily one of the best shows I've been to. They built stage extensions to be further out into the floor, specifically to not have a barricade. Spent most of it catching stagedivers or stagediving myself to worry about rules lol. As lawless as it was, there was still respect, and security only stepped in when there was an actual problem. Some kid early in the set visibly got messed up on stage left, I think broke his arm or something. There's a great video of the show from the stage, and that kid pointed himself out in the comments and said he had an amazing time even though he went to the hospital after like 3 songs lol

[@animusolus]

@@ghost_to_a_ghost Have not heard Living Sacrifice in YEARS. Thanks for sharing, man - brought me back to '97.

[@plusmin09]

I think Finn, being above average height, doesn't get that every inch of something obstructing the view of the stage in front of us short kings/queens can have a HUGE impact on how much we enjoy the show. If it was one person raising their arms multiple feet above their head with a lit up screen in their hands, then ok ya we'd just move. It's dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of people doing that simultaneously though. It's a big deal tall boy.

[@goldengrill769]

Being short is supposed to be a equitable thing not just acceptance you will never enjoy your life. "NO everyone over 6 feet must be at the front and waving their phones because of Darwinism SORRY" that isn't what fucking 7000 years of human evolution brought us to.

[@Chill-mm4pn]

I typically move by people to get a spot lol but I'm Goth so etiquette is different, more chill mellow at Goth shows. I couldn't deal with going to a Hardcore show especially at my age (37), fuckers gonna trigger my PTSD and have me hit them. Age makes you less tolerant to bullshit. Definitely if they hit a woman or someone minding their business.

[@benjepson]

I thought a lot about this recently - I'm taller than many people, and I still have a hard time seeing usually. Last couple events I attended I tried crouching down half a foot to see what it looks like for everyone else, and I don't think they could see anything. I guess you can still hear a performance...I don't know how anyone deals with it. Does not seem like fun.

[@SuperRat420]

@@benjepson It's really not when people that tall have zero sense of awarness

[@benjepson]

@@SuperRat420 I try really hard to stay out of the way...I'm usually at the back anyways. A few weeks ago there was a guy at least my height wearing a knit cap sticking up above his head like he was trying to cover as much height as possible. I don't get why you would do that.

[@jaew000]

I saw someone launch a 1L aquafina bottle at the piccolo player from Flogging Molly and hit her right in the belly, she didnt even flinch. Conversely, I threw a bag of weed on the stage at a Down show and Phil stopped the show to thank me and roll it up.

[@dustinorr9408]

Phil smoked your weed?? That's epic as all hell 😎

[@Combba6]

Phil was down. Down in it, too.

[@QueLoKevin]

I guess I’m not allowed to bring my Norm Macdonald oversized cowboy hat anymore

[@jakethemajikdog369]

Turd Ferguson, it's a funny name

[@FreakOnTheLeaf]

This article is obviously not meant for people who go to metal/punk/hardcore shows.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Who reading loudwire isn’t a metal head?

[@jleighwolfe]

​@@PigglyWigglyDeluxetbh idt even loudwire likes metal most of the time

[@chasegimbel1904]

To be fair hardcore shows and metal shows are wayyyy different in terms of violence and type of violence, especially smaller hardcore shows and beat down shows,

[@brandondenby673]

if youre looking for safety at a hardcore show, you came to the wrong place. lesson learned, tough stuff

[@derrickkowalewski9239]

Dude, I have never had a problem at a hardcore show

[@SuperRat420]

Uh depends, bro. We had racists and crowdkillers at out old punk place backin the day and were not afriad to send the big dude to toss em out by their belt

[@ryanbollinger1759]

@@SuperRat420Racists and Fash’s at hardcore shows today still get absolutely bodied

[@SuperRat420]

@@ryanbollinger1759 thank God

[@pattobyo]

I gotta respectfully disagree about the phones. Here in Japan, phones aren't allowed at most shows for Japanese artists, whereas western artists (who come here) will usually allow them. I never noticed how annoying they were until I went without seeing them for so long.

[@alexzeller2409]

Went to a show was like 7 rows back and couldn't see anything because of all the phones in front of me. I'm 6'2" it was a new feeling. I now feel your pain short kings

[@M.H691]

Yeah, crust punks are another level. Saw an Amebix reunion show in a basement and the stench of the audience (many of whom had not changed their clothes or washed since 1987) was so bad I had to regularly exit for fresh air. There was also a very drunk dwarf punching strangers on their legs. Very awkward as nobody wanted to hit him back. He passed out and security scooped him up and dragged his little body out. Great show.

[@voidofhope6259]

That sounds like i fun time

[@jpl1608]

I completely agree with the phones and the talking over the band thing. No one wants to go to a show and hear people talk over the band.

[@littlecsommercorn]

I'm not a fan of crowdsurfing. I want to watch the show without having to look behind me or have someone dropped on my head. So now I stand in the back because I want to enjoy the show without crashing someone else's party.

[@jayrific]

Shows should be threatening, but not by security. Finn needs to cover the recent Fete Music Hall brawl with security and the crowd/ band.

[@plusmin09]

Shows should be threatening? Wtf is the reasoning behind that?

[@haraldvonhinten8921]

"Shows should be threatening" Yeah because every show needs to be a fucking hardcore/beatdown show.....

[@subparnaturedocumentary]

paid security and police always complicate things at show

[@jleighwolfe]

Wasnt really a brawl. But almost.

[@toddmueller8948]

Somebody turned that Turnstile show into the SF Tenderloin.

[@mariesikkink2984]

My biggest issues are, I like the stage area to be the most active and the back to be kind of chill. I need a place to go to enjoy my drink. When someone in the very back starts dancing aggressively next to me I’m like, why right here though. And my second issue is sexual assault, there should be zero tolerance for it.

[@Ganntrey]

100% correct. The front should be a lawless wasteland and the back a refuge

[@HappinessDIY]

The crappiest audience experience I had was at a show, we were talking a bit, not a lot, mostly between songs. The kids in front of us were taking selfies the entire time, with flash, and complaning that we didnt move when taking selfies and complaning about us talking between songs. And I just laughed at how lame they were.

[@JM-fo1te]

Like, how dare you exist

[@psychoof78]

When you’re not in the pit, do not shove people who do not want to be in the pit, like you are in the pit

[@AtomicTimes]

I agree 1000% with banning phones at shows

[@jacobmalek438]

I love to record my favorite songs from the bands I see, and yes I rewatch to relive the experience. My biggest gripe with people recording is when they hold the phone up above their head and blocking other people’s view. Hold that shit under your eyes and be courteous of others experience.

[@xCindyLouWhox]

No offense but I’m 5’2 so if I hold my phone up under my eyes I’m going to record the person in front of me’s back. I usually only record my favorite 2-3 songs during a show so I’m not in anyone’s way for too long.

[@nola281]

I go to a couple shows a year and I don't get the record the whole show. Live in the moment and if you're behind a phone the entire show, you're not really there. I record a little bit but not all of it. When I was up front at the barricades I never pulled the phone out, it was actually off.

[@jacobmalek438]

@@xCindyLouWhox yeah I definitely understand and support when people on the shorter side do it. Im mainly talking about when people like 5’11 and up fully extend their arms to get above the crowd and block peoples view for a prolonged period. Im 6’5 and am already self conscious about blocking people. If it’s not a band I love, I try be in the back and out of the way

[@jacobmalek438]

@@nola281 I try and record with the phone under my eyes and mainly by my mouth or lower so I can focus on the show in the moment and get to relive it later on. I know people hate when others record so I try and do it as polite as possible

[@nola281]

@@jacobmalek438 that's how it should be. I record a few things but not all of it. I rewatch it later well after the show. There's a difference between trying to be respectful of others and just not caring about the other people. There was this young girl who when my daughter and I were in the pit at Shinedown who was recording the whole time, taking selfies and she kept getting in way of my smaller than her daughter. Finally her mother told her to stop but she was not cool. With how much tickets and everything else costs, I can't understand why you would even want to spend the whole show behind a screen.

[@IIMIKEYMOII]

A lot of these I would agree with for some arena show's I've been to. Saw Tears for Fears recently. Full of middle aged women: - Talking loudly during the concert to the point I can't hear the fucking music over Karen - Getting drunk and sloppy off overpriced wine - Filming the whole thing and just puttering with the phone which gets in other people's space. I saw Drake (as a chaperone) and the whole concert were iPhones and people dancing and filming themselves (and me and everyone around them). Shit was annoying as fuck and distracting. I swear, shithouse wasted metal heads can be obnoxious, but in the end, they actually just wanna hear bands, not do all this extra sloppy shit.

[@subparnaturedocumentary]

seems that everybody wants to rule the world

[@jleighwolfe]

Yeah i frequent a lot of jam band shows and the talking is insane. Im there to listen to the jams people! Metal and hardcore shows the music is plenty loud enough to drown out most of the obnoxious talkers. But for a jam band, or like when i saw Explosions in the sky (a chill instrumental band) the talking is a huge problem that really does effect everyone elses enjoyment of the music. If you just wanna talk go sit at the bar in the back. Let us on the floor or in our seats actually immerse ourselves in the music we paid to hear.

[@lefloeck]

You really made my day with the "big hats ruining my metal show" comment. Well played, Finn. 😂

[@andrewlong4684]

The Don’t Dance one threw me for a loop, especially as someone who has been to their fair share of punk, metal, and country shows. Dancing in some fashion is pretty much the expectation!

[@Leo4gzs]

My favourite festivals are in Japan because they are safe. Everyone has a great time. Every time a band/ artist comes and tries to bring “chaos” to the crowd fails miserably and I love it.

[@OldSchoolMetalVinyl]

This video is a good sum up of why I gave up on metal shows long ago. Having miserable, smelly, poorly educated drunk losers who couldn't make it though highschool surfing on my head isn't my idea of fun anymore. Give me my goth/ebm events with gentle, respectful, tolerant people who are there to enjoy the music and not act like degenerate Neanderthals.

[@horrorcorridorshow]

That Pitboss2000 story was amazing… I remember in the early 2000s, tough bands would play and the pit would get so violent you could hear screams of fear over the music, such a fun moment

[@ganjaghost420]

I'll never forget the mudvayne show I went to in 2003. This dude was going around punching people in the face, women included, so my boyfriends brother grabbed him by the throat and choke slammed him like the undertaker 😂 he wasn't punching people after that

[@EphraimIgnacio]

I used to know a guy in my local scene that would intentionally projectile vomit in the pit. Really nice guy.

[@sollamander2206]

I don't notice people with their phones out at shows most of the time, but the second you become aware of it it is striking just how many people have them up at a time. It's like when you're watching TV and halfway through a show you become hyper aware of the TV bezels and everything in the background. I don't really care or hold it against people though. For most of these things, it's so genre dependent that any catch-all guide is gonna be ridiculous. Don't crowdkill at a Steely Dan show. On the topic of "bad" crowd behavior and your nu-metal video trend, you should do a review of the Netflix Woodstock documentary. I found it to be way better than the HBO one. You'd have fun with the out of touch former hippy promoters.

[@SethHMG]

Phones have replaced cigarette lighters.

[@bushleague3472]

That one seemed a little weird to me, I dont consider the shows I go to as being anything uber crazy, mostly 90's skate punk adjacent type stuff... but I dont even bring my glasses into the venue, and anyone getting too ambitious with their phone is likely going to find it on the floor in a million little pieces afterwards. What sort of metal shows are people attending where you can actually record an entire show?

[@linkstudios5626]

From what I’ve heard Ghost only banned phones for one show and it was because they were doing a concert movie and everyone going was aware I think

[@54raynor]

Blocking the view of other people by holding up your phone is a great way to end up with a broken phone.

[@jacdixie]

Show etiquette - don't be an asshole. Same etiquette as elsewhere. Same people disregarding etiquette everywhere. They're usually easily spotted and avoided. Personally I've always preferred recorded music to being jostled around in a crowd or wandering through fields of garbage at a festival, but that's just me. I've been to a few that were really fun.

[@ALifeForm]

Recorded Grey Day this past weekend and have been watching all of them everyday 😂 best two days of my life

[@pAWNproductionsDE]

Some of these rules might be fine if you're going to see something calm (jazz, folk, piano-ballad type stuff, etc.) but most of this just makes me think "if you really don't want this to happen, just don't go"

[@immute]

"It's rude to elbow in front of girls, they were there first" "Yeah this girl got whacked in the face with a golf club it was dope"

[@ChristopherJames1993]

I came for "HERES THE THING!"

[@davechambers-media2599]

up until covid I was photographing a heap of shows and I believe photographers should never be seen so I always keep low so people don't see me. My best photos are when the crowd are smashing me because you are feeling the show so the photos replicate that. Love crazy shows

[@Madkalibyr]

Went to a Tool show recently at the Moda center with my partner and kids, there was a no phone/no recording policy and if security saw you using your phone they’d shine a BRIGHT AF flashlight directly at you and whoever is near you. Burnt my corneas.

[@austins.2495]

Killin’ the game as always Finn 💪

[@alejandroxan]

The etiquette of concerts fully depends on the genre of music and the venue itself.

[@billg708]

I've been watching Finn's videos for about 4 years now and have NEVER laughed so hard with this one!!!!

[@Nersius]

If your show doesn't end w/ emergency services being called, then it was a failure.

[@elosoguapo8137]

I understand the question. A lot of people struggle to be good audience members because we spend less time interacting in general. 1. Phones - the phone is to be used for recording/sharing/tagging. Not for making calls/texting/playing games/etc. if you want to use the phone for that, is it in an area away from the stage. 2. Talking - cheer for the artists. Don’t have your side conversations on a level that distracts or disturbs the performer. 3. Respect other people’s space. If you in a mosh pit, then fine. Outside of that, respect personal space. 4. Give the act a chance. Don’t show up with preconceived notions

[@jleighwolfe]

Tbf the talking isnt about the performer. Most of them use in ears anyway and cant hear anything. Its about ur fellow audience members who paid to hear the music.

[@Nik.No.K]

2:30 I watch the videos I take at shows. They’re really short but I enjoy reliving those moments

[@loompy1440]

was having a sucky morning due to some health/ depression struggles lately… but that sleep token fart brought me out of it hahahahah.

[@tdsollog]

I’m a 52 year old woman, and I have a “bingo card” when I go to shows. It doesn’t feel like a show unless I get to check off seeing “things” happen, like fights, an random acts of nudity.

[@trevorhouck3148]

I have a tendency to sing too loudly. I have been a lead singer so it is typically in tune and matching the vocal style. I also get too excited about deep cuts the band plays and no one around me knows the songs. A7X did a lot of the latest album this year and I knew all the words. I just get excited at shows.

[@MetalGildarts]

Their latest album is mid

[@jakethemajikdog369]

I saw Atreyu for the first time a few months ago and I fanboyed out reeeal hard, I was scream singing all the lyrics and getting super into it, like way more than everyone around me lol

[@SuperRat420]

Better be a sing along band then

[@blondequijote]

Isn't that part of the reas9n the pros get gear so loud? No one person is yelling over all of it. I totally get what you're saying about being a lead singer though.

[@SuperRat420]

@@blondequijote unless we're right next to you

[@daveethridge7342]

I remember getting covered in bruises, beer, blood, and puke at shows. I don't miss it, but I'm even older than Finn.

[@tfries1607]

I turned 58 last September. I remember when shows smelled like vomit and sweat.

[@daveethridge7342]

@tfries1607 these days there's nothing better than a good view and a cold brew.

[@tfries1607]

@@daveethridge7342 and not getting injured ! Lol.

[@tfries1607]

@@daveethridge7342 two recent true stories. Both took place at different TSOL gigs. So my buddy Jimmy hadn't been to a gig in 25 or so years, doing the family thing etc. He shows up with his son, bunch of old schoolers in our group. Everyone's hammered and having a great time. Jimmy , must have thought he was transported back to 1983 or something because when Jack G called their last song Jimmy snuck up on stage and right when the song started Jimmy runs out onto the stage and does a classic flip dive into the crowd. The same crowd that was there a few seconds ago but had started into the circle pit, so there was nobody to catch ol Jimmy when gravity kicked in and Jimmy smacked the shit out of his noggin and had to go to the ER. We all laugh about it now but there's a lesson to be learned in every story 😏😝. We go back in time a few years , TSOL again. So I'm there with my friends ( when I was younger I was all about Boots n Braces, now I'm all about orthopedic shoes and a belt ) bands great, pit is great, awesome show ! Everyone knows Code Blue is my favorite TSOL song, and when that song came on I was holding and pumping my fist, I see my buddy Norton come round the pit and he grabs my arm and pulls me in,I'm like NooOoOo... fuck it , I thought ... I can still do this! I make it about 3/4 of the round the pit and trip and fall hard like a sack of wet grapes, which in turn causes a traffic jam, more people are falling, a guy tries to pick me up, but that's no easy task and two more come to my rescue , the pits still active though , im really trying to stand up but keep getting knocked into, those three guys finally got me up and out of the way, kids are giving me a wtf grandpa kind of look, geez. The funny part is another buddy said when those guys were trying to get me up it looked like the Iwo Jima memorial, with me being the flag. Anyways, take care buddy.

[@erika3174]

Loudwire: Hey, don't be a murderer. Readers: Aah, what an enlightening article.

[@ziggylegion1604]

omfg "dont shout obscenities at the performers." and honestly i agree to an extent, heckling is just really shitty, especially if youre just being an asshole because there's a bug up your ass specifically fucking up your vibe but everyone else is having a great time. BUT GOOD LORD the actual content of each rule is written in the absolute frilly, dainty, soft ass whiny crybaby way possible "i told the man with the mohawk that its not very nice to write obscene language on the venue bathroom walls and mirror. then he punched me and said he was going to 'obscenely write all over my moms walls.' i need to speak to a manager. :(" im a very non fighting, express yourself, its okay to cry, we should all be comfy always type person with almost everything but even i have my limit lmao

[@dozerjohn]

I saw Dark Funeral live in 1995 and all these guys wearing huge sombreros really annoyed me, good rule to ban them!

[@dougboal7425]

I pretty much expect a drink to be spilled on me at every show. Recently saw WVH/Pantera/Metallica and right as Pantera comes on, a pit starts in front of us and my cousin's fresh beer goes everywhere. These kind of risks come with the territory IMO.

[@bushleague3472]

If I'm not covered in someone else's beer and sweat, as well as sporting at least one swollen testicle by the end, then I likely didnt enjoy the show very much.

[@kalebseiler8577]

@@bushleague3472Facts

[@mgw5377]

" dont squeeze to get in front of people who were there first " na we all fighting for mic grabs tonight

[@mrpotter6966]

Great video man love the content .

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@gainsbarfromtokyo]

Was at my friend´s gig in a German bar yesterday, and some old grandpa with a cane asked for a chair, sat in the front row and started screaming for schnaps and beer at everyone, he half groped the singer and started giving me an arm lock. He got baptized Papa Schnitzel by the singer and was taken home by staff member. 80 y.o. a-hole move, we all had fun tho.

[@ULTRAVIOLENCECHANNEL]

My wife's pregnant now due April 20th I had to laugh(420) Congrats to you guys, and I'll see ya at the back of the show gonna yell at clouds too

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

I hope all goes well!

[@ULTRAVIOLENCECHANNEL]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA thank you!!!

[@NoVanity1]

I stole the twister board that was about to get trampled by the wall of death during Archspire and everyone cried about it.

[@lenegelbe-hauen9009]

I almost never have my phone out anymore. I'm early GenZ. Having your phones out gets dangerous when they do it in moshpits and don't pick people up when they fall anymore. Just to get the TikTok. I heard from friends who Bad Omens that this was a thing. There were people being stumped over I once had a girl yell at me for singing along because she wanted to record a video at a Neck Deep show. That was last year lmao 💀 I'm just hella annoyed by all those snowflakes who want special treatment.

[@BordersoftheJosh]

My dumb college roommate wore sandals to a show and tried to crowd surf. The crowd immediately took his sandals and threw them where he couldn't find them. It was the greatest moment ever!

[@eugenesyvokon6145]

finally some great takes from Finn, that loudwire article is ridiculous

[@ryanrowe1975]

Playing in a show that wouldn't help out on a story and holding up to the phone device during the show of keeping in a safe place at home.

[@kaidensmukler5099]

Call me a boomer at the age of 20. But I saw Sleep token last month and it was by far the most disrespectful crowd of people I've ever dealt with while being on the floor at a show.

[@JoltinJoe26]

This video has some funny AF moments.....well done!

[@FURTHER_ADO]

It's hard to ignore the people holding up phones when everyone does it but Finn again showing the kids he's cool, he gets it.

[@TheKotor2309]

Bruh didn’t even need to make a video; he could have just made a community post saying “Be like PunkRockMBA.” Simple and accurate.

[@Roger-fs5yo]

Ya know I wonder how often girls got attacked like that back in the 80's and 90's at concerts? I mean was it a common thing, and we just didn't know about it cause there wasn't no internet? Or ya know is this a fairly recent thing🤔

[@jleighwolfe]

Women have been being assaulted for thousands of years....

[@concretecaliban]

3:43 'back in the day, like in Persia or whatever, if you were a thief they would cut your hand off.' Fun fact: This is called hudud. It is still practiced now in modern times, and is in fact part of the legal systems of many (mostly) Islamic countries such as Brunei, Iran, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen. Punishments range from public lashing to publicly stoning to death, amputation of hands and crucifixion, apparently.

[@Noitisnttony]

I’m not gonna force past someone in the front but I am amazed to see people at the barrier act like they’re entitled to person space when they chose to be in the literal middle of the crowd

[@carterbennettmusic8948]

Finn did you see the clip of someone throwing water on cardi B and she threw her microphone back at him and you can HEAR THE THUD it’s so perfect

[@JBlair-87]

The title of this video didn’t have me expecting a whole lot, but I am bored working third shift in rural Ohio. I have never laughed this much watching one of your videos 😂

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thanks man, I appreciate the support!

[@brandonlm0125]

I’ve never been to a show where a guy would get away with punching a random girl. That guy wouldn’t gotten stomped into the ground immediately.

[@ViduwanPaduwan]

Basically don't have fun at shows. There was a glorified local band asking for requests to their fans so my mate walked up enthusiastically, so the lead singer leaned in, and politely said "play something competently". They all started getting aggressive and he walked off laughing.

[@senorduck07]

I don't know Finn I have to disagree about people talking loudly. I have had multiple blabber mouths next to me during intimate shows who ramble on about nonsense and gossip like they're in a bar and it's incredibly annoying. If their conversations are louder than the band on stage and I can't focus on the music, I am saying something. It's my biggest pet peeve at concerts. If you don't care about what's on stage and aren't paying attention to the music, than don't be annoying around others who are trying to listen!

[@henrik4574]

German show etiquette is strange, though. Went to see Slayer in Leipzig on their farewell tour. Had a blast, crowd surfed to the front of the stage and then, when trying to get back to the pit I needed to step in front of people to get there and these people was so protective of their spot that some even tried to fight me when I passed in front of them. Never experienced that from metal fans before…

[@ProductionsFromBeyon]

There was that NOFX song “Separation of Church and Skate” where Fat Mike ironically says “Make every show a matinee!” And honestly, I would love a library matinee hardcore show. Get me in bed by 10pm.

[@apanapandottir205]

The biggest thing for me about the phone thing is that I think that trying to capture every moment is gonna prevent you from being actually present in it. Also, I have a huge scar across my right eyebrow from getting hit with a guitar (from the stage) while moshing in front of the stage lmao

[@Donnelly19508]

The only rule is when the band goes on, chug your $12 beer, throw up the can as high as you can into the crowd and hop in the pit.

[@queenstixxzz]

If it's only a drink, I don't care anymore.

[@jimreuss]

I was at a show this past summer. I'm not a tall person but I was far enough back and had about a 10 foot circle around me. This tall woman came and stood directly in front of me. I tapped her shoulder and said do you mind moving to the left or right a bit, you stood right in front of me. "dude, you're at a concert". Yeah, we are. And you should have some common decency. You knew you stood right in front of me and you're blocking me.

[@Lexcoaster]

It depends entirely what type of show you're attending. I expext mosh pits at a metal show. Not at a seated show. At seated shows, sometimes you can't not pay attention to someone's phone. Especially if you're sitting next to them and they're not recording but texting the whole time.

[@jeremycunningham7897]

The band should start, drinks should fly, limbs should flail, all the rules of my mundane, every day life suspended for the duration …. Aaah happy times!

[@xXxArcher13xXx]

The "here's the thing" Andy gets me everytime😂😂❤