"ANYTIME I REALLY LIKE IT, THEY HATE IT." I just take it from there. I'm feeling so much better now.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
haha. yeah that one really resonated with me. Thanks for watching!
@dand13852 ай бұрын
@@progressionspod Thanks for putting it up here. Great work! He's one of the few I can listen to for hours without an end. Just priceless information to absorb and such a humble guy himself in an industry where most are just rocking with their cocks out not being able to get over their own bloody egos. ❤
@LukeSchneiderEWI2 ай бұрын
I have like 45 songs on KZbin, I recorded ,mixed ,and mastered on my dining room table ! 😂. The songs I LOVE are the ones with very few views or likes !! 😛👍. I feel like QUITTING !! 😛🎺
@philpower_5 күн бұрын
Mike Plotnikoff also says the same, it's like a huge part of his whole philosophy: "that's pretty good; if it's pretty good and it's not bothering me, it probably isn't gonna bother anyone else." m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoOQqWqsnNafadk
@philpower_5 күн бұрын
Every new interview with Scheps is the best one. This is the best one, this was great. Thanks!
@progressionspod3 күн бұрын
He does so many great interviews. So gracious with his knowledge. Thanks for watching!
@davidbachy5627Ай бұрын
I don't know if I learned "How to Be a Mix Engineer" but I learned a lot about Andrew Scheps life as a mix engineer.
@ABS_AD7722 күн бұрын
Was very fortunate to attend Andrew Scheps' seminar at AIM Australia. Thank you Andrew.
@chris23532 ай бұрын
Every few months a new Scheps interview drops and there’s always gold in there. Great questions too!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
He's so gracious with his time and knowledge. Thanks for watching!
@robertfoshizzle2 ай бұрын
@@progressionspod Yes, I've always enjoyed interviews with Andrew and he seems like such a genuine, sweet guy.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
@@robertfoshizzle Such an easy person to talk to
@tomburden2 ай бұрын
I watched this while lifting weights - I feel I have gotten stronger as a mix engineer watching this.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Always remember to practice gym safety 😂
@tomburden2 ай бұрын
@@progressionspod 💪🎧💪
@angermanagementstudios2 ай бұрын
25 years ago I used to try to make MY record every single session. I realised my mistake when I’d made what I thought was an awesome record for a local band. I was so happy with it. Polished, slick. Punchy and radio friendly. The band absolutely hated it. I redid the whole session for free. It ended up raw, scruffy, never to be played on a radio anywhere. The band thought it was the greatest thing they’d ever heard. I ended up working on four records for them over the years. It’s a difficult skill to throw your ego in the bin and make whatever it is that the client wants!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
I think it's actually part of the learning process. You kind of have to over do it for years to learn how have your own sound and still support the artist. That's why the great mixers are the great mixers. They've found a way to balance both.
@KernSound2 ай бұрын
Salvador Dali said about rules, or I should say learning. "First learn to paint like a master and then do whatever you want."
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
And he definitely did that! Great quote. Thanks for sharing it!
@EmperorKamikaze26 күн бұрын
The difference between art and great art.
@modalliasАй бұрын
As someone who wants to start a sound engineering business after graduating school, this was really helpful, especially Andrew's commentary on the AI situation. I had been worried about AI affecting the industry in a negative way, I still am a bit, but Andrew's vision still changed my way of thinking and helped me see some sort of a scheme I can work upon to get into full-time work. The whole video was very useful
@shaneedwards012 ай бұрын
This is the absolute best interview with real world topics that exists on the internet.
@Charlie-e1v2 ай бұрын
When I got my first band to record I was clear they were my first project and I was still learning the basics. Even though the session was free the expectation was still as if they paid for a session with an experienced engineer. Best to learn on your own time and never someone else's.
@Joe-mz6dc10 күн бұрын
His interviews are absolutely replete with wisdom!
@progressionspod7 күн бұрын
Always. He's so good at sharing things in a really clear and concise manner.
@giordash2 ай бұрын
I had the good fortune of attending Andrew’s MWTM seminar in 2017 and he had a profound effect on my mentality re: mixing. What matters, what doesn’t, the why of it all vs. the how, how things feel rather than how they sound, all of this came to validate my approach to making and delivering music like nothing else has. I think a lot of the attendees also walked away with a different perspective on music and mixing. He’s a true genius and an indescribable force in music.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
I bet that was an awesome week!
@giordash2 ай бұрын
@ absolutely incredible! The facilities at La Fabrique are insane too. It’s a world class studio with great accommodations… and the food!!
@Chaos-Dynamics2 ай бұрын
So happy with an engineer like Andrew, he loves talking and has a lot of knowledge to share. Perfect combination 🤟🏼
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
He's so good at putting his thoughts into words. Thanks for watching!
@johnwilmer25512 ай бұрын
The Shore ~ The Shore 2004 Maverick records. Best record that was never heard ~ Tracked on Trident 80 series console ~ Mixed In the box by Rick Parker on Pro tools mix plus. Beige g3
@kingaya.31242 ай бұрын
Andrew Is my look up to Mix engineer, every tip and advise he gives is gold, i really love him and i still use the Andrew Schepps RearBuss trick till today it has improved my mixes a lot.
@englishoakrecording2 ай бұрын
This was easily my favorite episode, amazing work!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Nice! Glad you enjoyed it! One of my personal favorite conversations. Andrew is a joy to chat with.
@flyoverfredusaАй бұрын
One of the best Scheps interviews, great stuff.
@progressionspodАй бұрын
Thanks! He’s a great hang!
@n3bmusicАй бұрын
Amazing interview... Thanks for sharing man.
@LightsandMotion2 ай бұрын
loved this conversation. keep it up!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@djerikfox2 ай бұрын
..what a great humble honest man......GOD BLESS YOU ANDREW!!!!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
He's always sharing so much with everybody!
@stillupmusic2 ай бұрын
This was such an insightful conversation, thank you both.
@BodyanАй бұрын
Nice questions fella. Thanks.
@damienowens2422 ай бұрын
This was the best episode by far and a fantastic interview. Thank you!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
I agree. haha. A personal favorirte conversation for me. Glad you enjoyed it!
@jerrywemhoff2 ай бұрын
I'm lucky that our local community college had an excellent audio program with cheap tuition. It crammed 4 years worth of work into a 2 year program and it was grueling, but I'm glad I did it.
@Mr.EKmusicАй бұрын
Fantastic interview thank you both!
@progressionspod7 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@claudius3124Ай бұрын
Great Interview! Wow! Thank you both! And... I"ve been a Spectralayers user for years and I agree : that software is a blast! It saved my ass more times than I can count... And it' also a super creative and sound design tool.... Have a great day!
@progressionspodАй бұрын
Thanks! I tried SpectraLayer out after talking to Andrew, it was pretty impressive. I separated the vocal and band in some audience mics for a live show mix.
@somedood66212 ай бұрын
Great interview, really grateful for andrew's insight and honesty. here's to more gigs on music we love!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
He shares so much with the our community. And is an absolute lovely hang!
@mvricks90Ай бұрын
Really great guy and insightful interview thnx
@pupai892 ай бұрын
watching these interviews are ways to stay sane
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you dug it! Thanks for being a supporter of the show.
@nitromedaАй бұрын
Underrated comment! Thank you!
@ultrajaymeАй бұрын
So is living with Louie Dog ;)
@Maharani19912 ай бұрын
What I would love to ask Andrew is how he feels about most people only ever hearing his mixes after they've been brickwalled by a mastering engineer. Stadium Arcadium (which Andrew mixed about half of) is one of my least favourite Red Hot Chili Peppers albums up to that point of their career MUSICALLY, but the vinyl version is one of my most-listened-to albums ever because it's such a rare chance to enjoy beautifully engineered music that hasn't been crushed to death with a limiter. If all that existed of Stadium Arcadium was the CD version mastered by Vlado Meller, I would never find myself going back to it.
@idolbass2 ай бұрын
Back in the early 80s we used to tour with a Bose stereo PA system with delayed stacks about halfway back or towards the rear. We were a synth-pop band. People said it sounded amazing, not the same as atmos but the mix engineer would have fun panning things around.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
That's epic. I love it!
@sonicart18082 ай бұрын
Excellent interview, it held my interest throughout....great questions and energy thanks 👍
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jerrywemhoff2 ай бұрын
The one thing about stereo that I love the most is cross-pan delay. Can't be done in anything other than stereo, reinforces mono-compatibility on the low-color side and creates cool psycho-acoustic phenomena on the high-color side. Great way to lock in your stereo image while making sure it still sounds good on a shit system.
@OdoSendaidokaiАй бұрын
Thank you so much for this interview 🌻
@RicardoTolbert2 ай бұрын
Great video and interview like always! Deffinatly resinated with a lot of the topics on this one!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Andrew is such a wealth of knowledge and one of the best at conveying his ideas.
@kdakan2 ай бұрын
Technical gist: Slow attack fast release compression, minimal parallel compression if needed, mix a track in the context of the other tracks, not the individual solo track, best use of ai is separating tracks to get rid of drum and other percussive instrument bleed,
@mattweix2 ай бұрын
love this interview! thank you!!!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@PatFlanigan2 ай бұрын
I love Scheps’ hot takes! He’s so often right too!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
He basically speaks in clips. Haha. Thanks for watching!
@gavinhammond31372 ай бұрын
Yes school definitely helps
@apriljoy61772 ай бұрын
thank you for sharing your thoughts. i mix emotions
@elblopex2 ай бұрын
"it was either the first time anyone had done it or its the only time anyone had done it" THIS
@KreativeDevices2 ай бұрын
Oh Yeah! 🙌
@Anders012 ай бұрын
Great presentation! I'm excited about AI, it's already pretty mindblowing. However I see AI as a tool and that music made by humans will still remain the leader, at least for the top productions. It's somewhat like over a century ago when photography replaced many things painters did back then, photography didn't replace all art painted by humans.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
I think as AI becomes more common (and better) there will be a surge of people who will gravitate towards human made art, etc. I hope at least. Thanks for watching!
@user-yk4gd1fl4z2 ай бұрын
Yeah ,nah!
@cbrooks09052 ай бұрын
I worked at a cheer leader music production studio for a few months, and it was mind numbing to say the least. Hearing Andrew talk about editing vocals and tuning boy bands makes me laugh and take me back. Someone else already said this, but it’s true, “these interviews keep us sane”.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Haha. That’s a pretty niche production house! I did a lot of kids music for Disney and Nick. That stuff would get so embedded in my head it would make me crazy.
@cbrooks09052 ай бұрын
@@progressionspod yeah there’s a whole world of cheer competition that most don’t know about. Every song they cheer/dance to in those competitions are original pieces. The routines are given to the studio written out on paper, and then we’d make the songs to go to the routine. It was literally some paint by numbers crap. Completely soul sucking.
@cbrooks09052 ай бұрын
Luckily this stuff is anything but catchy so it wouldn’t get stuck in your head. It just sounded awful and was not pleasant to listen to.
@higrov2 ай бұрын
Great interview
@compucorder642 ай бұрын
Great video, the tips for parallel compression help clarify how to think about that at a high level. On the projects that have a bad smell, I remember a good point someone once made, 'if it's not a Hell Yeah, it's a No!'. I suspect at your point in your career, be better to say no and make plugins, and also teach instead. I think you have the right personality for both so no point working on projects that will suck - it just takes energy away from potentially more profitable long-term ventures. Like anybody bit by modulars, I'd be willing to bet he wants you to ask about his modular synth. He's set it up as his whole background even :) Whose your favourite builder Andrew? (mine is Emily, of Mutable Instruments). And what modules do you wish existed (I'd like a physical modelling module that specialises in low tuned, long-decay percussion, like Gongs, that can be played and struck in different ways)? Have you ever thought about designing your own modules, maybe even in collaboration, like DivKid does for example?
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
There's a great book by Derek Sivers called "Hell Yeah or No." That approach to picking projects is hard to get into, but really amazing if you can stick to it.
@RobinZV12 ай бұрын
Fucking brilliant. So well done. Thank you both!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you dug it!
@eschirtz2 ай бұрын
Great stuff!!!
@DoinStuff4Life2 ай бұрын
This was SO informative. I have a few questions but i'm afraid to ask you.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Ask away! I'm here making this podcast to share. I can't speak for Andrew, but I'm happy to try to answer any questions with my own experience. If you don't want to post them here feel free to message me on IG @progressionspod.
@alexcrescioni2 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
It's an epic hang. Hope you dig it!
@KosmoDeuzАй бұрын
❌What so that big silver Box on a right on a table where the pedals and interface on ? Anybody
@djray27052 ай бұрын
18:12 pause
@GingerDrumsАй бұрын
I have a dolby certified Atmos room and make money doing atmos mixes. A friend just gave me the keys. I have listed to all the big Atmos mixes on a great system, and I'm just not impressed. I like the Dolby binaural downmix a lot for headphones. edit: literally a 130K system with good acoustics, so best case synario.
@gregoryivesdolbyatmosmusic2 ай бұрын
They are always improving the BIN version, Stereo Direct is much better to me to deal with getting the Binaural better. It's going to improve. Keep in mind, it's a very NEW platform. the old ProTools version was like a Downmix of a Downmix. Stereo 2.0 or Stereo Direct for mixing is much better. I have done several here and let the hater's hate. I am doing quality work here that all my clients, Dolby, and current artists who are young love it. Taking about pretty well know artist I'm talking about.
If you create an Atmos recording will the height related sounds be pushed back down until a Dolby Digital mix if Atmos is not available, or will some of it be lost in the translation from Atmos down to non-atmos systems?
@user-yk4gd1fl4z2 ай бұрын
Dosent matter. Atmos is a money grab fad no one wants, the general public don’t even want to bother with having two speakers to listen to music.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
The genius of the Atmos tech is that playback is decoded for the system so that things playback as closely as possible to the full mix. I don’t know to what extent top channels are blended in but the tech should handle it for you. You can pretty easily check various rerenders when you are mixing. So you could check a 7.1 if you wanted to.
@ZalmanStern2 ай бұрын
It's very sad that we are this far down the road in digital audio practice, with frankly too damn many DAWs on the market, and efficient workflow is still a matter of engineers hacking together scripts to do things like printing outputs without tons of manual operation. Yay for SoundFlow, but I can't help but think Avid and crew are just off in the weeds. E.g. REAPER seems to be the only DAW that has really flexible support for bouncing a bunch of marked regions across tracks in different formats, etc.
@shilohpatten3761Ай бұрын
You have a very pretty smile. 😃
@kadiummusic2 ай бұрын
The bottom line is millions are being spent on fitting out Atmos rooms to make Atmos recordings yet punters are not spending money on creating Atmos rooms to listen. At best it's creative self indulgence, at worst it's an industry led bandwagon. IMHO. 😎
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I definitely agree that it is NOT being driven by the listener. It's being driven by tech. I hope one day the binaural is great and the consumer can get into it through that. It's great to experience in a room, it's fun to mix. The battle is getting that into a form that the average person can enjoy.
@ThisGuyDude2 ай бұрын
38:35 this is what I've never understood about the value proposition of atmos. When I go see a band live the drummer isn't sitting behind me and the horn player isn't off to my rear left. They're all in front of me on the stage. So why are mixers trying to place the band all around me? They should all be in front of me. And if all those other speakers beyond the stereo speakers and maybe the sub, are simply there to provide room and ambience. Then heck no I don't want another eight speakers to provide ambience. Especially when those are never going to follow me around in my real life. It won't last.
@BENJAMIN-nz6ndАй бұрын
School for study but really for the plugs. Gotta be around like minded people
@progressionspod7 күн бұрын
At this point... kind of. Just for the network and experience.
@chrisdover85072 ай бұрын
Was confused about the intellectual property session conversation. To me asking for a mixed session is a hard no, but raw multitrack is definitely fine. Were you guys agreeing with that?
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Yeah, we were agreeing. I used to be happy to send a session to a label for archiving, but after talking to Andrew I think I’ll probably just print a very deep set of stems because it is so easy. That would be better for long term anyway. A session with a bunch of old plug ins is going to be worthless 20 years down the line. If you think about it like that sending a mix session is pretty pointless regardless of the IP convo.
@chrisdover85072 ай бұрын
@@progressionspod in my opinion even printing processed stems should be out. IMO you get the multitracks and the usual deliverables and that’s it. But I rarely win that battle. Especially if atmos is being done by someone else, and I’ve done half their work for em’. Haha
@gavinhammond31372 ай бұрын
I wish they explained what the mastering thing heir they're talking about a little more. I'm going to have to go on a Google search now just to even understand what they're talking about
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Are you talking about when we discuss Izotope Ozone? It’s a mastering software with an “assistant” that will give you suggested settings to master your track. It still allows you to see and change those settings though. I like something like LANDR. I hope that clarifies and let me know if you have questions about anything!
@gavinhammond31372 ай бұрын
@progressionspod I already know isotope you were talking about some other mastering thing that's AI
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Oh! Sorry! You just be talking about Spike AI? That is a just announced AI mixing plug in that mixer Spike Stent is involved with. It’s not out and all the info that is currently out there is the very basics website and a short article.
@ErikHubo-f2i2 ай бұрын
Interesting
@santibanks2 ай бұрын
Just a remark on the AI-trainingdatasets: while I obviously don't know what data they used to train Spike Stent's AI thing with (I don't even know what it does, only saw the headline, never looked into it), the notion that AI can only be successful when being trained with enormous datasets is not true. There have been some researches into this lately which suggest that depending on context, small data sets are highly preferable and deliver better outcomes. I suppose the point is that it depends on how specific and narrow a task is. A LLM like GPT needs sh*tloads of data. But I can totally imagine that if the Spike AI tries to make things sound like Spike mixed it, it has been trained on just his mixes and a set of other mixes for distinction and that that could be sufficient for this task. After all, the AI is not really learning how to operate gear and push faders, in the end it's lots of spectral shaping to get to a desired end state so it goes more by sonic fingerprinting.
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Yes this is true. After chatting with Andrew, I brought it up to a friend of mine that makes LLMs and he said that you could build something with significantly less data as long as you treated that data the right way. (he used bigger words, but that's what I took away 😂)
@Sheepisheep2 ай бұрын
His point on the compression on kick and snare is soo true! I'm always ducking my head and smiling waiting for that huge snare hit in "Couldn't stand the weather" SRV. Maybe that specific technique wasn't used, but that hit is massive and always makes me smile
@progressionspod2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, l I've definitely laughed because the drums were so punchy. It's for sure a real thing.
@apriljoy61772 ай бұрын
i mix on bandlab they call it forking and cakewalk
@teamcubendoАй бұрын
The problem with Atmos is that 98% of the music listening public will NEVER be able to properly consume it. It just won't happen. So it feels like a cash grab that some companies/people are trying to shove down our throats. I get that it might be awesome when consumed properly, but it just doesn't matter with such a tiny demographic.
@tomastextorАй бұрын
Atmos might be fun for certain types of electronic music, as an effect. For classical? No way (PERHAPS for St. Matthew Passion opening chorus, but I'm sceptical as well). For jazz and rock? Come on. I don't believe it.
@CareerDropout.2 ай бұрын
I think AI Mixing only exist due to it being more proccessed productions instead of actual live bands that track music
@xenprovence6126Ай бұрын
I’m tired of the “what should I do if I’m just starting out?” Question. I would advise to just quit and let the people who are further along run this thing out.
@recordclassicalmusic2 ай бұрын
Wow! Andy Scheps gets imposter syndrome?!?!?!?!😯
@0Human12 ай бұрын
AI will step outside the training set....just like a human can, and it can experiment outside the data set at computer processing speed....