How to Beat Climate Change with Aru Shiney-Ajay

As the effects of climate change ravage our world, we have no choice but to fight back. While it may feel like a hopeless endeavor, the truth is that we have the power to make a difference through collective action. This week, Adam sits down with Aru Shiney-Ajay, executive director of the Sunrise Movement, to discuss how we can drive meaningful change toward a greener future, particularly in light of the upcoming U.S. political administration.
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[@TheAdamConover]

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[@novellanightmares]

Saying we have the power is one thing. I still don't see any actionable plan that at this moment that will solve it all unless we rapidly start going nuclear and are able to grow meat in a lab in huge capacity. Even then how do you force other nations to follow suit. What if they don't want to? Do you go to war? I think reality is people need to start preparing and adapting for change. People, especially Americans tend to clash when people "force" them to do things. Freedom is great, but it also has problems. How do you allow people their freedoms without going dictator on them? And how do you make that change happen in a single generation? Learn to grow your own food maybe. Consider what skills will be important in 30 years. Invest in things that might survive a housing crash or financial bubble. Don't buy land on the coast or desert. Who knows.

[@MattBuild4]

@@novellanightmares If you want to see what an actionable plan looks like you should read up on decarbonization plans like the NREL's National Renewable Electricity Futures Study & RE-IT80% plan. These are comprehensive analysis from scientific, engineering and industry communities on how to transition major industries to net zero. You will find that they provide quite a lot of information on how this could actually happen.

[@Cleo20777]

I'm definitely joining now. I'm so tired of feeling powerless. Money should never come before life, and saying otherwise is sick and dystopian.

[@jbrahen]

Be vegan too!

[@MattBuild4]

If you go to a meeting - please ask your chapter what published decarbonization do they support? And if they dont have one, ask them why the Sunrise model is not based on a decarbonization plan? These are the scientific, engineering and industrial plans to transition energy to net-zero emissions. In other words they are the SCIENCE behind a energy transition to the same degree as the science behind climate change. Imo it would seem that organizations like Sunrise do NOT support scientific analysis on how to actually transition an energy industry - and this is a major problem.......

[@aosidh]

Heroes! Thank you both. And please stay safe and take care of your sweet sweet voice, Adam

[@TheAdamConover]

Stay safe as well! ❤️

[@JP_Names]

Can't imagine speaking that into with my voice that rough. Take care Adam!

[@SotirOtDjebel]

I thought my speakers had gone to hell at the beginning. Hope your voice healed!

[@milenatos]

Me too! Fortunately his voice got better after the intro but the girl's vocal frying is horrible

[@adrianrr18]

@@milenatos oh, god, I thought I was a dick for wanting to say it, but that vocal fry is annoying as hell!! I am considering even bailing out on this video for it.

[@RougeEric]

To beat climate change, beat capitalism. Hard.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

I suppose when we all die, both issues will be "solved".

[@Praisethesunson]

Aspire more for yourself And those around you. ​@@grumpyoldman6503

[@jero4059]

@@grumpyoldman6503 yes because you beat capitalism with some variant of socialism :)

[@antenna_prolly]

​@@jero4059Sounds like you're a supporter of the problem.

[@DarthVagen]

@jero4059 Please define what you think socialism is :) ( please include liberal-socialism sometimes refered to as anarcho-communism as these are included in the term socialism)

[@liamnagle6060]

She's wicked smart and so articulate. Great talk 🙏

[@maddieforward5342]

This person is awesome! Thank you so much for the conversation.

[@acard1985]

Keep up with this great job! Unless we start a huge movement from the bottom, all over the world, we won't be able to fix climate change!

[@joeltucci1916]

Our electricity use is 14x what it was in 1950 even though the population is only about 2x as much. Until we can start actually using our best weapon against climate change, conservation, nothing will change. Look at all those "feel good" stories about new renewables coming online, what they don't tell you is that most of those renewables aren't offsetting CO, they are just generating more electricity that go to extremely marginal uses like crypto and now increasingly AI. It's endlessly frustrating to try to save energy only to find that instead of reducing CO2 emissions all you did was reduce Sam Altman's input costs. We simply cannot solve climate change as long as entities are allowed to use as much electricity as possible just to privatize gains and socialize the environmental and social costs of their activities.

[@louisvictor3473]

That is the thing with systemic problems: you can't solve it with punctual individual patches, you need a systemic approach. We don't need to merely switch to renewables. That is what capitalists (in the capital owner sense) want, because if that offset in their heads mean they can keep on trucking with the system, just replace one energy source with another. That is, still deep throating planned obsolensence... sorry, planned obsolensenceS, plural per product, from clothes to electronics, nowadays even homes kinda work on that mentality ffs. They can keep producing more food than there is people to eat in places financially (to them) cheap to produce, then shipping them somewhere else in the globe to package, to only them finally ship everywhere else accross the globe instead of investing in local production centers with a much lower need for transport. They can keep producing and selling indnividually packaged or small quantities instead of packaging in the store at the point of sale. Keep promoting and building cities that are designed around personal cars instead of public transport, walking, biking, etc. first. And so much more bullshit. Changing to renewables obviously can offset our emissions, but it is only a part of the solution, it is not even close to enough.

[@MattBuild4]

Conservation sounds good until you actually realize what the full consumption of energy looks like and you start to have making decisions on what to cut. The idea that more of renewable production is going to crypto and AI is 100% nonsense. These are emerging markets that didnt even exist 10 years ago, so I have no idea how in the world you imagine renewable production over the last 70 years has been used solely for this purpose. The reality is energy markets are not inherently linear based on population - there is a laundry list of factors which increase consumption demand such as environment, population density, technological controls, consumptive sporacity, infrastructure demands, military support, source system integration, load capacity controls etc.

[@joeltucci1916]

@@MattBuild4 I never said “solely” if you lack reading comprehension skills maybe don’t reply. Oh wait you are a crypto bro, you definitely lack reasoning capabilities.

[@MattBuild4]

@@joeltucci1916 Has nothing to do with crypto. Has to do with understanding how electrical systems actually function and the constrains of the system in existence. Something I dearly wish was common knowledge, but unfortunately would appear you didnt get this lesson. Generation capacity gets added for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes its for replacement of decommissioning other generative capacity. Sometimes its for adding due to demand. Sometimes its added to assist in reducing risks from other generative or support infrastructure. Again it depends on the relevant variables of a particular energy network. Assuming the risks, constraints, demands, environment etc are the same for all networks is fundamentally inaccurate and should not be examined in this way. This is literally why energy managers never use just one cost model in evaluating energy markets unlike how media commonly discusses energy pricing.

[@TyGuy9001]

Your sounding pretty rough in the start of the video and during the ad reads, I hope you stay safe and feel better there Adam. I appreciate what you do.

[@E.Houghton]

Fantastic interview with a remarkable, articulate young woman. We have stuck future generations with the rapidly advancing climate crisis, and it's gratifying to see Aru Shiney-Ajay talk about the spreading influence of the US Sunrise movement. Young people need a way to BE active, to be effective, to be heard, to be noticed by a government about to try to ignore the climate crisis entirely. Thanks so much for offering this great chat about how working together is what it's going to take!

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

Thank you for this episode. I've been a bit down lately with the horrible weather and how loud bigotry is, I really needed this for inspiration. I'm not in the US but I'll see what I can do for my country. Thank you and your guest.

[@maxrose8845]

Great conversation, we need more positive messaging on what can be done about this. Less doom, more solutions!

[@MaximeNoël-c7j]

Yes, please!

[@MiraBoo]

THANK YOU for pointing out that “personal responsibility over systemic change” (28:40- 29:00) was propaganda. Too many people are unaware of this fact or how recycling is more-or-less a fraud (due to false labelings and various inefficiencies). Recycling could, in theory, be great, but businesses aren’t incentivized to use it (recycling is too costly), and many recyclables aren’t actually recyclable. Recycling was ultimately Big Business’s way of throwing the responsibility of pollution onto consumers. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still important, but it could be vastly improved.

[@ship05u]

Feeling inspired to see people like Aru and the Sunrise movt. out there still trying to do what they can for a better tomorrow for us all. That was a great conversation there Adam and def just what I needed for the time being.

[@MattBuild4]

If we actually want to do something on this issue the solution is in published decarbonization reports not in political sit ins...... In most cases our politicians have zero education and experience in energy, so this idea that our political leaders are going to give us the solutions in energy is complete utter nonsense

[@ship05u]

@@MattBuild4 It's not that the politicians will provide us w/ solutions but rather they're in a position to affect policy that can bring about change for the better down the line for not just the people but also for the nature. The people who do come up w/ solutions like your dedicated scientists of the field can and do publicly even bring that to their attention to inform em what's the best approach towards a sustainable future. No one is saying that politicians knows it all but rather that they can and certainly have been obstacles in the way whether intentionally due to lobbying or otherwise which is exactly why it is important to always be putting pressure on them to act for the better of the community and by extension the environment that everyone else is and will be living under. I'd highly suggest for you to give a good listen to this conversation b/w Adam and Aru again as they do cover this as well in much better and easily understandable way than what I can do.

[@MattBuild4]

@@ship05u Yes politicians are in a position to affect policy, but id argue that those in charge are not producing effective policy that actually address the challenges of today. What I see far more often is whole lot of gaslighting, grandstanding and fundamental misunderstandings of pretty major concepts in energy. Both discussions on the IRA and BIC and even this discussion put jobs and labor employment at the forefront of the policy..... why? The main goal of the energy transition is to provide enough energy to meet societal demands while also producing energy with sources that in aggregate with sinks produce net-zero emissions. Yes you need to know your labor demand when you go to calculate the constructability of energy systems, but to put labor in the forefront discounts the PRIMARY GOALS of determining how much energy we need and how much we can realistically reduce emissions by. I find it extremely telling how the Sunrise movement never talks about net capacity for energy or net GHG emissions for an energy transition plan. If you dont know the net capacity demanded, then you wont know the total amount of infrastructure that needs to be constructed. 10 million jobs is not good quantity assessment for infrastructure scale. These figures really dont mean anything in the context of this industry.

[@MattBuild4]

@@ship05u They talk about in this discussion how the Sunrise Movement is responsible for climate bills like the Inflation Reduction Act and how amazing this bill is. While not perfect we shouldnt focus what the bill doesnt provide and celebrate the success of this bill. Yet in the context of actual needs of the energy industry this bill really isnt that great, and failing to address the shortfalls of this severely restrict our ability to build new infrastructure in the first place. The IRA allocated $300 billion to energy infrastructure over 15 years with the expectation to decarbonize by 50% and build out renewable generation to 60% penetration. I can tell you right now neither of these things will actually happen - the math does not even remotely check out. $300B is about 25% more funding than the infrastructure construction industry builds in a single year in this country (per ENR). To the average person this seems like a lot of money - its really not. Theres a reason every single published decarbonization study has cost assessments that start in the trillions of dollars. Major infrastructure in general is minimum $1 billion per project. None of the allocations in this bill allign with average market rates per unit of infrastructure by sector. Some of them arent even remotely close.

[@MattBuild4]

@@ship05u What is the #1 challenge for renewable growth long term in the US? Lobbying, oil and gas competition, environmental activism? Nope. The #1 challenge is electrical distribution of energy from generating plants. It is by and far away the largest and most complex challenge facing the industry, because as you grow utility scale generation you have to build T&D (transmission and distribution) infrastructure to move energy from the generating wind and solar farms back to consumers + to account for intermittent generation you need grid controls to manage fluctuating production with fluctuating demand throughout an energy network (extremely simplified the higher the concentration of intermittent generation = the higher the amount of grid support infrastructure necessary - mathematically this relationship is exponential). In September 2023, a report commissioned in AAAS by MRO, MISO, SPP, FERC and NERC found that 2,000 GW of potential renewable capacity in the Western and Eastern Interconnections was on hold pending grid improvements. THIS IS A PROBLEM.... The institutions that authored this assessment literally manage energy networks at the regional and interconnection scale (they kinda know what theyre talking about seeing as theyre essentially just reporting common problems in their own systems). In addition to the allocations of the IRA being egregiously low for grid infrastructure (ie $3k/mile vs $2.5M/mile actual) that bill does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to address permitting challenges for T&D, which is the #1 reason we have seen construction timeframes expand from 6 years per project to 14 years per project. if we dont even recognize the existence of these problems and do not even address these problems in the energy policy we are creating then the energy policy produced is quite frankly pretty worthless. And to say that politicians or activists understand this and aware of this is extremely troubling to me. Because holy moly are grid challenges exceptionally and highly reported issue in energy. You open any energy journal any given week - theres at least 5 different studies talking about how much of a problem the lack of needed grid infrastructure is. It constantly is talked about - yet the actual bills we see in Washington do extremely little to ever address these problems. The entire reason FERC sent over Order 1920 is because the IRA and the BIC do nothing to address permitting challenges on grid. If we make it impossible to build this infrastructure then it doesnt matter how many jobs are invested in generation, cuz theres zero purpose to build generation in the first place if you dont have the infrastructure in place to connect generation to consumption. It is so frustrating that politics, activists, and media dont seem to grasp this.....

[@kodiakjak1]

One of the biggest issues with communicating the dangers of climate change is that it effects almost everything, but often in a minor and often obtuse way. There's always a couple of things deniers can point to and just say, oh, that's what caused it. It was a mismanagement of resources, poor planning, bad governance, etc. I like to say the global gdp is 100 trillion dollars, if you owned just 1 percent of everything, you'd be the richest, most powerful person on earth by a huge margin. Climate change owns 10 percent of everything.

[@zach368]

nah bro it's still snowing here 🤣

[@MattBuild4]

The scary thing is youd actually be understating the economic risk. There are studies in which the global economic risk from climate change has been projected and quantified based on what the realistic rate of change will be by 2100. Burke et al. "Global non-linear effect of temperature on economic production" finds that these costs will likely range from $264 trillion to $580 trillion.

[@MelodicQuest]

I was at Adam's Dallas show. Such a fun time. I also started watching Adam during the CollegeHumor days

[@louisvictor3473]

Adam Dallas sounds like a male striper name though.

[@TcMhMuSiC]

Holy smokes i was just binging old eps i needed this suckaaaa

[@anthonydelfino6171]

On the note of celebrating your progress and victories I’m reminded of a story from the 70s in the gay rights movement. Anita Bryant had been fighting for a gay discrimination bill in Florida. And after the votes were talked and gay rights lost, the lgbt community still celebrated because they got so many more votes than they expected in their favor It’s important to remember even if you don’t win to celebrate your progress

[@lauren8135]

I don’t feel completely hopeless about climate change, but I don’t feel particularly hopeful about it.

[@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z]

If you want to talk crisis, look to Vegan row crop agriculture, 100% dependent on FOSSIL FUELS to deforest, destroy soil tilth, over-extract ground water and turn whole regions into desert. *Vegan row crop 100% reliance on teratogenic petrochemical pesticides and herbicides IS THE SIXTH EXTINCTION.* The '1.5C in 150 years' since industrial society is not detectable by humans!

[@johanleion]

This talk and the Sunrise Movement deserves so much more attention. Would also reccomend the book 'Exponential Climate Solutions ' by sustainability entrepreneur and climate activist Rebecka Carlsson.

[@MattBuild4]

Does the book you recommended include some level of technical evaluation of energy systems when talking about climate solutions? I find that one of my greatest concerns with Sunrise Movement is when it comes to talking about what we need in energy for the future is overly generalize without really much quantified substance. Organization talk about we need to get off oil and gas - ok, so many barrels of oil are needed to successfully transition from oil and gas to other sources? In my opinion it doesnt make any sense to start a transition until you quantify this amount so that dont put yourself in a position where you dont have the resources necessary to complete your transition. Similarly for electrical demands - we want to transition to a net-zero emission electrical generation portfolio right? So how much generative and storage capacity is necessary to meet the need of society? What is the acceptable amount of GHG emissions from generative sources that we need to target? How much time would it realistically take to build the infrastructure necessary to meet emission target and capacity targets? And then is this timeframe acceptable or do we need to expediate it? I often find that this analysis is non-existent in climate activism discourse.

[@simplethingsasmr4565]

I love your show and the work you do, but not being a US citizen I can’t help but envy the awareness they acquire through this. I’d love to here more about global movements of this sort and about what people outside the US and especially people living under dictatorial governments (Russia in my case 😞) can do to help face global issues like climate change. Huge thanks for your inspiring work anyway!

[@pixie7349]

Will be having to look them up! This is amazing :)

[@fsteddy6576]

Living in an oligarchy doesn't result in a flourishing middle class, quite the opposite. If you want a more flourishing middle class & to stop climate change then we have to fix our capitalism.

[@goldmandrummer]

I love her points. Thank you both. Shared 👍

[@slanew]

Mr. Conover, please consider a vid on this: Assuming that "laws can be bought", if the people gathered the funds to buy "THE LAST BOUGHT LAW" what would it take? 🤔

[@Tracey66]

Tip: if you watch at 1.5X or faster, Aru's vocal fry is much less noticeable. :)

[@Krazie-Ivan]

it's sooooo distracting from otherwise interesting convo

[@Tracey66]

@@Krazie-Ivan I don't want to beat up on her, but as the spokesperson for an organization, she needs to think about how she comes across. Vocal fry is very difficult to listen to.

[@RichRich1955]

Ive read 15 books on climate change. When i got to the last chapter regarding fixes i wouldn't read it because its hopeless

[@therabbithat]

The post production company my partner worked for just went under because they never recovered after the writers strike. I am happy for you guys that you won but I can see why people have mixed feelings about celebrating that win.

[@mphoramathe1801]

Great work as always Adam! Please, please, please do an episode with Roxanne Meadows of the Venus Project and help spread some truly world changing thinking

[@4-kathryn]

Adam's comment here erked me... 2:06 An individual that cares about Climate change can also enjoy escapism through video gaming when it gets too heavy sometimes. It's healthy to have some kind of a hobby outside of consuming eco news information and scrolling through r zero waste posts. The news covering this topic isn't always positive so gaming can be that brief escape that's needed to get motivative again. Some video games also cover climate change too!

[@louisvictor3473]

You missed the "through the REST OF MY LIFE" part. It is like you're arguing against a comment that just sound similar to what he actually said... because that is exactly what you just did.

[@Plantsrbetter]

I just found a chapter in a city pretty close to me. I'll be taking my kiddo to the next meeting if possible.

[@mikesyyt]

Holly Hell ! the Fry is strong with this one ! ( exchuse meeh some of uhs would like to orduuurh ) , Laudermilk reference :p

[@joshs3916]

Great discussion.

[@E.Houghton]

We have an idea you can share. Be part of a grassroots movement to make the month of April Earth & Climate Education Month. One day a year to learn to care for the Earth isn't enough!

[@Mgfpl]

As I watch this, the EPA pick is being grilled by congressional hearing. So much for environmental protection

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

thanks

[@ScottStentenFilms]

fantastic work!

[@brian.the.archivist]

They give me a bit of hope. And she's right, a big protest is supposed to be a stand-in to the alternative. Otherwise it's just a rally

[@NA_49erFan]

As the video starts you mention working families movement, I was disappointed to hear Bernie say he was not in support of a third party but wanted more independent candidates

[@emilysmith6897]

Wow even Adam's voice has been fucked up by the wildfires from the sound of it!

[@unmotomotivater]

Holy vocal fry, Batman!

[@Katastr0phic_Katicorn]

I have a new person to look up to, and something to join.

[@CandC68]

Sadly, we have allowed the term "climate" to be weaponized. And many of the arguers don't even know the difference between, environment, climate, or weather. If we have to discuss the planet we live on, we should all just try to reduce the damage we do to it's components. Land, sea, and air. Clean air and water are a win for us all.

[@kafkakaraoke]

Don't worry, I sacrificed 3 goats, 2 chickens, and a marmot to Mother Gia. All is well.😂

[@actualcyborg]

Come tour in Tampa please Adam!

[@quacks2much]

Aru reminds me of a Valley Girl, which is extremely cute. I love young people who are willing to fight for what is right because my generation consists of too many boneheads.

[@boydstephensmithjr]

No Sunrise Hubs in Arkansas, and while I have _some_ time, I certainly don't have founders' level of time, so for now, I'm just going to go ahead and give in to climate despair.

[@JohnSmith-cb9lr]

You don't have to do that. Just buy a house in Alaska. The property value will shoot through the roof and it will feel just like home :)

[@SketchyHippopotamus]

Hi! I’m a sunrise organizer and I’m assuming you don’t have time because you’re job steals it all. Which actually means that organizing your work place and aligning with the Autoworkers and Teachers call 2028 strikes will both fight for the climate AND give you more time and dignity and MONEY I can send you resources that can help you get started.

[@boydstephensmithjr]

@@SketchyHippopotamus Thanks for your attention! I do have a full-time job, but I'm also primary caregiver for a quadriplegic family member, and it's unlikely that unionizing my workplace would improve my time (and location) availability much. I'm a software developer, with minimal production support responsibilities, so the 9-5 is pretty consistent, and my current PTO benefits are acceptable, even if they aren't the best I've had in my career. I'll keep watching, but I don't think I have the time (or temperament) to be a founding organizer of anything, for now.

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@boydstephensmithjr that's ok, homie. we can do what is within our power. just talking to people if the topic comes up is more than enough if that's all you have the time and energy for. and vote!

[@MattBuild4]

@@SketchyHippopotamus "organizing your work place and aligning with the Autoworkers and Teachers call 2028 strikes" Is this really the main focus of the Sunrise Organization now? Unionization is a laudable effort, but it really seems like Sunrise tries to put its foot into so many different issues that the organization as a whole lacks substance in any one particular effort. I always thought the primary goal of this organization was to lobby support to decarbonize industries in an effective manner to reach emission goals. Yet since the introduction of the Green New Deal the actual policies of Sunrise as it pertains to emission reduction and energy or other industry transition consistently appears to be extremely vague. More often now in my opinion yall seem to be far more a labor movement organization parading under the guise of climate activism. If your main focus truly is just labor - thats fine. But if yall ever want to be actually serious about addressing climate change and achieving net-zero emissions in energy theres a ton of pertinent information on energy that your organization needs to understand. For one, the # of jobs is not the most important variable for energy infrastructure. Theres always an understanding your gonna create a lot of jobs with major infrastructure projects, but in order to plan the construction of this infrastructure you need to identify the energy demands in the area that your project would help fill and then understand the technical constraints of your system. If you dont know these variables - then your entire plan is a non-starter from the beginning. Just knowing the labor requirements for a theoretical project really doesnt matter.

[@Arlen.Kundert]

2:07 that's a major part of why I escape into different Metaverse platforms (just not the one from Meta/Zuck)

[@33up24]

Succumbing to the black pill is not an option, fellas

[@zach368]

should rename it to Climate Changed since it's past tense now

[@gilberthamilton9312]

No, because it keeps happening and there's nearly no ceiling for how bad it can get. I guess the ceiling is we reach the co2 levels in the whereby acidification ends the biological pump and I guess humanity and all life on the planet gets to try and evolve back from extremophile microbes.

[@louisvictor3473]

But it is not. It is still changing, and the worse changes are yet to come. Claiming it is past tense is a gross misrepresentation.

[@Beefinator5000]

Make people not want money. Good luck.

[@Chris-ie9os]

I want money. That's why I stopped wasting it on fools fuel.

[@captainroberts6318]

I feel like most people don't want money for the sake of money, but for the stability it brings. We just need to figure out a way to provide that stability to everyone

[@blammers]

You don’t. We are already at 1.5 degrees warming. Unless we changed the global economic system overnight, we’re doomed to see much, much worse.

[@akumabito2008]

You're clearly not thinking of the shareholder value! /s

[@223Drone]

Exactly the climate change deniers have won and we're in age in which science denial is celebrated. The world has chosen far-right leaders over addressing the climate crisis.

[@louisvictor3473]

Wrong. If we do not change the global economic system over night, but we still keep on improving, yes, we might be doomed to see much, much worse. But if we be a doomerist like you and do nothing like you suggest, then we are doomed to see even worse than that. Congrats on trying to make things even worse than they already are just to feel "smart", what a fucking genius.

[@MaximeNoël-c7j]

Actually, we're at 1.34C. We don't hit 1.5C until 2030.

[@sayraflores1834]

How is Sunrise responding to L.A. Fires?

[@mooncalf191]

They are against them.

[@PaulCoelho-n2q]

This will be interesting. I'll pre-reply, because my idea is always ignored anyway. Delicense an oil major.

[@JR954]

I love how naive Sunrise movement is. That man got voted into office despite his dysfunction. Sunrise needs to clean America’s vision and brains because we are tumbling into a world 🌎 where sentient beings will be extinct. 😢😢😢

[@scottminter4735]

Co2 is plant food not a polluted.

[@fourcatsandagarden]

"wants to bring back incandescent lightbulbs" the fuck? why? like.....is there some lobby group that wants that? or is he just like 'wahhh the world changed I don't like it'

[@boydstephensmithjr]

Always Power Hungry, Never Power Mad ? ISTR something like this came up in the Working Families Party focus, too.

[@waylonoconner9121]

Climate Change is inevitable. What is going to happen is something that is going to happen. What we are doing is hastening it. I think that we need that mindset. We need to think of it in a way of slowing it and preparing for life after the change

[@THEMithrandir09]

Re fractiosness: a lot of the time discourse and differing opinions are misinterpreted as fractiousness when in reality that's just a consequence of left organizations being democratic. Discussion is vital for democracy. Most right parties in democracies around the world are authoritarian internally, which is deeply flawed.

[@razadaza9651]

The tik tok datacenters burn a lot of energy, stay off that!

[@darkranger116]

we have to get people in positions of power who arnt bought by corporations. we need new blood in new parties and a set of terms that need to be fulfilled by government regulation beyond just increasing taxes

[@ZZ-qy5mv]

Yes. People say, “vote!” What we really need is to find, cultivate, and support people we would want to vote for. Politicians should be coming from within our own communities.

[@johnkintree763]

I would like to see a digital democracy in which we vote for principles and policies instead of for people and political parties, and do this from the local to the global level.

[@sayraflores1834]

How are you using your cause during this tragic fire in L.A. to create action?

[@samuelchambers4036]

42:58 what you talking about is also interestingly enough the way that Trump was able to convince a lot of people that don’t follow the same Nazi rhetoric that he does and convinced them that he was the person to follow by finding a niche issue that they were angry about and pushing on that button. He would keep push, pushing and push pushing on loneliness or angry about low paying jobs or this for that and you would promise. Yes, I can deliver that for you.

[@adrianrr18]

That vocal fry, tho...

[@TheCook80]

Thermal dynamics and the law of conservation of energy. Ballpark total energy expended since 1998 in Megatons be nice and say only 40% caused global warming. That number in megatons, is how much energy we need to use to just stop global warming. Multiply by 2x and that is the number needed to reverse back to 1998. Realize that total number needs to be done zero emissions. We have no way of producing that much zero emissions energy in 100yrs. If the time frame is fixing this problem in 40yrs-80yrs energy generation must be zero emissions and ... 3-8x more energy production. Only things I know that can pump out that kind of energy in timescales like that are meteoric, volcanic, and nuclear. Messing with how much sun hits the earth means crop failure and global FAMINES We are stuck between a rock and a hard place . Abandon hope there is no saving this sinking ship. We need to focus on planned coastal retreat and saving cataloging biological data for storage and later use. We need to build ourselves arks and prepare our civilizations for 50ft. Sea rise within 80yrs

[@antenna_prolly]

Damn Adam, your voice is cracking harder than Marge Simpson's. Your voice is important, however.

[@zool201975]

America decided not to beat it but to join it as US culture is to join the winners even if you have to go to the camps in skid row. what will they do? blame you for the wildfires?

[@brettito]

RIP TIKTOK?

[@art4freak795]

Trump is the personification of every boomer stereotype meme

[@DistinctiveBlend]

Any civilization that produces energy (on planet and even if green) at an increasing rate will warm their planet. At a 1% increase per year you have about 1,000yrs before the planet becomes inhospitably hot according to a recent paper. We however aren't using 100% green energy so we're warming even faster.. to address this we need to; stop emissions, move energy production off world, and scrub the atmosphere/oceans if we're being serious about keeping an advancing human civilization around. An interesting side note is this could be the answer to Fermi paradox and be 'the great filter' ahead of us.

[@gordonfreeman5648]

But let's start from taxing cow fart, right? This is sooo important. Also, we should force all people to wear anal plug with fart gas filter.

[@milenatos]

The vocal frying is unbearable in this one...I had to skip, unfortunately 😞

[@boiling_snow_water_]

More beavers

[@tristan7216]

1:07:00 yeah, cause proliferation is a problem. You guys need to pick like 2 or 3 causes, like climate, housing, and health care, and hammer them constantly. You tell yourselves that all your causes are synergistic, but they're not. Constantly getting distracted with pop-up causes like gaza and the dire need for trans folk to play on womens sports teams is killing you, and I suspect the corpos fund left activist groups and academics to keep it that way.

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

The right made the existence of trans people an important issue, not us. And idk about you but a true just system imo doesn't leave anyone behind. Trans, indigenous, POC, etc. I'm tired of centrists thinking we're too trans friendly when that's really not a thing, barely any trans women play in professional sports, they perform equally to cis women and the purpose of the conversation is to normalize legislating rights away, to get people riled up on this hypothetical crisis rather than deal with material things like minimum wage or workplace protections.

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

And for the record, there's definite proof that the culture war is funded by oil and other corporations on the right, but somehow you believe in the dubious existence of corporations giving a shit about trans people? Really?

[@TheDoomWizard]

Nah we're toast.

[@mbeecher9921]

Shilling packaged meal delivery and fast fashion when saying 'we' when talking about climate activism really shines a light on Adam's true motivation$

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

It looks bad and he needs to do better, but if he was into just the money he'd be grifting like Shapiro et al. Please make complaints without assuming the worst, I have many criticisms of him but he's a rational person who cares about justice, appeal to that, no need to shame lol

[@razadaza9651]

Geez Conover is woke AF

[@quacks2much]

The fires were probably caused by an arsonist or a match, etc, not climate change. The fires are so vicious or exacerbated by climate change, however. Good show, by the way.

[@captainroberts6318]

How do you know what caused the fires?

[@joshs3916]

Feel better, sounds like you have a cold

[@Themidnightegardener]

My dog has a video with more views

[@louisvictor3473]

14:24 in the global north, incandescent light bulbs are not always bad. It cuts on heating costs if you use them wisely (mostly have a dimmer that goes from off to full power rather than a regular on-off only switch) or at least they can help with that. The problem with incandescent lights are shorter life spans (so you have to produce more of then per time period) and "waste heat". That is truly a waste in already warm places or times of the year or even day, outdoors or otherwise exposed to wind, large tall places like a warehouse or an auditorium, etc. In smaller rooms during a time you normally do need heating, on the other hand, you're actually using that heat.

[@vwarbase277]

Such a great organization, no one over the age of 26 is dumb enough to lead it up

[@gordonfreeman5648]

Well said.

[@MattBuild4]

The problem is climate change is a real issue and there are real solutions, but the solutions to this problem are in scientific, engineering and industrial reports that nobody outside of those who work in the energy industry seem to ever read.....

[@vwarbase277]

Fighting climate change will help us have better weather??? Adam has completely lost his mind.

[@lovipilowu9766]

We all need to go vegan to save the planet (and to stop killing the innocent animals)

[@novellanightmares]

That's not an actionable solution.

[@Andrea-zm1nl]

Let's petition Elon musk and Donald Trump to purchase new homes for the people who have lost theirs due to the fire... They think climate change is a hoax and they have plenty of money to buy new homes for those who have lost theirs. Let's petition them to put their money where their mouths are...

[@ballisticalrift]

Petition?? 💀💀

[@kyleolson9636]

If someone doesn't believe in something, telling them to pay for something because the thing they don't believe exists did something bad is ridiculous. You might as well tell an athiest to give you a million dollars because God wants them to.

[@Andrea-zm1nl]

@kyleolson9636 it's sarcasm...............

[@Andrea-zm1nl]

@ballisticalrift it's called sarcasm............

[@SteveDeHaven]

I wanted to listen to this, but her vocal fry is too much for me to take.

[@exiled_londoner]

Get real people! I don't really disagree with much of what is being said here but I think the tone and expectation is wrong. There is NO SOLUTION to Global Warming, of which Climate Change is just one of the symptoms, and we are in the stage where adaptation and mitigation are the only courses open to us... and the window on those is closing fast. That does not mean anyone should give up, because adaptation and mitigation can still mean the difference between extinction and survival for our species. However, it is far too late now to avoid catastrophic consequences. Bangladesh, and many of its inhabitants, are doomed, and the resulting chaos and death and violence will create a massive crisis in South Asia, but Florida and the Carolinas and Louisiana and much of the Texas coast region are also doomed and the USA will also have to contend with a huge internal refugee problem. Oh, and Phoenix (and Las Vegas and several other US cities) will be uninhabitable by the middle of the century as it not only becomes too hot and dry for people to live, but also for any kind of agricultural economic activity. Better get busy folks!

[@vwarbase277]

Do you own any real estate in those areas? If you think they're so doomed. Let me know. I'll help take them from you.

[@exiled_londoner]

@@vwarbase277 - 'Don't know and don't care'... not an ounce of rational or reasoned rebuttal: just a snidey comment by someone who appears to be totally incurious about the evidence underpinning my statements. Pretty typical! However, I do advise this guy, and people like him (sorry if I've misgendered) to buy up as much property as they can in Miami, New Orleans, the Carolina coast, the Gulf coast of Texas, Phoenix, and Las Vegas, but to get the proper benefit of all that extra seafront property that Trump is looking forward to then these should be long-term investments. By the middle of the century they should be seeing properties in most or all of these places becoming unsaleable and uninsurable. You might still be technically able to live in Phoenix and Las Vegas if you spend a lot of money on shipping bottled water in, but who would want to live in Ghost-Towns with no economy and temperatures over 50° C for several months of the year?

[@MattBuild4]

Ok, but an energy transition to net-zero would be necessary as part of the mitigation measures. If you are going to reduce the amount of risk poses by global warming then we need to cut the amount of emissions that are growing the rate of change in global warming, and in order to do this means cutting emissions in all industries. If we just grow system and infrastructure resiliency to the expected changes brought on by global warming we would be facing zero sum expectation, by which the risk from global warming continues to grow over time.

[@exiled_londoner]

@ Correct! But it's actually more complex than that. Positive feedback loops (several of which are already in full swing) mean that CO2 and methane emissions will continue for the foreseeable future. Achieving net-zero from industry is not enough if we still have Arctic thawing pumping out millions of tons of GHGs every year... to mention just once source, and there are others. So it is essential that we go beyond net-zero and actually develop Carbon Sequestration on an enormous scale - something which is theoretically possible but for which the technology has yet to be fully developed. This in turn requires a massive, global, co-ordinated and long-term effort which will be hugely expensive and difficult but appears to be the only hope of slowing, halting and reversing the current trends, which are currently on course to bring down human civilisation and make our planet uninhabitable for many life forms (including large mammals) within a time scale that is unknown but could be much shorter than we previously thought. All the present trends in global politics and economics seem to be heading in precisely the opposite direction to that which is required for our survival. We now have another four years (at least) of a fascist, wilfully ignorant, xenophobic nationalist, anti-science, administration in the USA who will do everything they can to undermine and sabotage global co-operation on this issue. I can't say I'm optimistic.

[@MattBuild4]

@@exiled_londoner "something which is theoretically possible but for which the technology has yet to be fully developed." This usually results in very wishful thinking and very limited tangible results.

[@razadaza9651]

First world problem..

[@JoshuasRecordings]

As a young person I absolutely still use incandescent light bulbs (they are way better) and will always use internal combustion engines. Your hatred toward car enthusiasts or people who like old technology is disgusting and honestly shows how little you know about it. 5% of the population tuning their cars has little to no effect when these "climate experts" fly on their private jets and use more fossil fuels than I ever will driving my V8 mercedes or Corvette to work or for fun. The thing that makes me laugh about the left is they assume everyone is like them. YOU like walkable cities, cool live in one. I don't, I like the country. You like EVs or bikes, cool drive or ride one, don't force me to, you like LED lighting, cool, dont force me to give up my incandescent bulbs. Also, I am an aircraft mechanic. I've burnt more fuel in the last week doing engine runs on airplanes than I ever will personally in the next year.

[@VanceB89]

Hard to respect that vocal fry, im out

[@Spencergundersenmusic]

ScoOty Chimken Nuggie is definitely a forgotten subscription at this point. (Jk)

[@Dan-ni7qv]

Here's my donation to these poor souls: Imagine aaalll the peeeeooplleeee

[@Jcewazhere]

My crappy ears heard A rude shiny object. Awesome name. Aru Shiney-Ajay is cool too.

[@vwarbase277]

Why do we need a video about why the wildfires happened? Genius Adam solved it already, it's climate change! /sarcasm

[@InvasionAnimation]

I did not see the video yet, but I bet they are going to try to say ai will somehow save us. We already know what needs to be done. Reduce energy consumption and waste production. So don't buy new iphones every year and stop "upgrading" products for a barely perceivable difference. Stop using ai, and have your local government begin policies that reduce carbon by making cities walkable and voting in policies to help reduce it further. We already have plans for a carbon capture device, all we need to do is make it ore efficient. Slowing down our footprint and forcing the bigwigsyou know who, to do so as well is the ideal outcome.

[@christianvalente3376]

Have you watched any of Adam's content before? He's pretty skeptical of AI.

[@InvasionAnimation]

@@christianvalente3376 I agree, however The last couple videos of his I saw about ai he brung in ai researchers and creators of it that market it as good / our savior instead of someone that it is directly effecting and endangering like an artist or even a coder.

[@InvasionAnimation]

@@Northern_Silverbird Luckily not this video. I have grown tired of seeing folks say that it will save us. Luckily with this video there is no mention of ai.

[@novellanightmares]

And why is new technology not a possible solution? Because what you described isn't an actual actionable solution. Just saying "This is what needs to happen" isn't a plan of action. So how do you get all of the other pollution nations to follow, along with their populations? Who makes the choices of who decides who needs what and deserves what. There is idealism, and there is reality. Just telling the ether "Stop buying cell phones every year"... that accomplishes what?

[@InvasionAnimation]

​@ Because old humanity exists. Any new tech no matter how it is marketed will more likely than not screw someone over these days. And ai bullshit is simply not going to save us when it generates the same amount as a freaking jet just to write a few prompts. While being less useful. Then once this new tech is on us we sure as shit aren't changing since it exists now. We need societal change BEFORE it gets even worse. Not when billions are too desperate to comply. If they can waste 500 billion dollars building some useless giant datacenter, don't tell me some bs they can't use a fraction of that to make walkable cities, pay for more buses and trains, or fund even more research on carbon capture devices. Not buying new tech every dang time it comes out accomplishes less waste being produced to be in landfills by next year leaking dangerous chemicals poisoning the environment. Or having to produce more to build it every year to mine resources to make it, power the factories that assemble it, etc. It is purely idiotic to believe aww if they aren't going to do it why should I. If we show it is in fact possible to do so, others will follow, and the ones that don't can be isolated. You know what's best for the environment? Using the dang brain you got up there to LEARN instead of turning it over to a machine that thinks folks above 4 love glue on pizza.

[@bc4198]

👀👀👀

[@223Drone]

We can't the climate change deniers have won we're just delaying the inevitable now. Might as well enjoy life while you can.

[@GytisStankevičius-y8o]

It's interesting topic and I'd like to hear what she has to say but damn she speaks in such a unpleasant tone its hard to listen to!!!