How to BEAT the Eldar! | 10th Edition | Astra Militarum Tactics!

[@badjimu_kun]

The most mind-blowing thing about Aeldari is their “OK I will re-roll that. Oh it failed again? Well I just turn it to six with my magic dices” and you like dude…wtf?

[@ProxyHammer1]

That’s our thing 😉

[@maxmagnus377]

To be fair, regular fate dice can't be used after the roll. What you're describing is the Fate's Messenger Enhancement. Not quite as prevalent as you might think it is.

[@ProxyHammer1]

@@maxmagnus377 As of the most recent Tournament FAQ you actually can 😉

[@maxmagnus377]

@@ProxyHammer1 Wait what? So AFTER I rolled I can now change the result to be whatever I need it to be, provided I have the fate dice for it? Why on earth would they do that? EDIT: I read up on the change, you can change the re-roll with a fate dice before making that roll. Still a dumb thing to do, making an already VERY good combination of faction+detachment abilities even better, there was no need for that tbh.

[@ProxyHammer1]

Agreed it was unneeded, might see a nerf to that in January i can see them changing that because RAW as of now you can do it. I was personally playing without before the TFAQ but have started playing with it now ;/@@maxmagnus377

[@cajun4lif375]

As a guard and eldar collector this is a win win for me😂

[@Tigerheart01]

ditto. Literally my two armies since 2nd edition.

[@Jaybirderino]

just faced an Eldar list on a tournament this weekend! My major mistake was trying to use a Rogal Dorn to go toe-to-toe with an Avatar of Khaine (with a -1 to wound buff from a farseer...) Just force the avatar to deal with 20 man blobs of infantry. It doesn't have enough attacks ;)

[@Gromeish]

The Avatar of Khain has Sustain D3 on its attack. So, in overwatch, they will fate-dice the hit role to a 6. At 12 inches d3+1 hits S14 Ap4 D6+2Dmg this will really ruin your tanks day. Something to keep in mind if you are move blocking, or falling back with Vehicles. Top Anti Eldar tip: the base ballistic skill of Wraithguard is 4 and they often run around with a +1 to hit from a character. I use suppressing fire from my mortars. If you have free CP, you can pop smoke on a tank in their shooting phase, and they will be hitting on 5s (4+1-2) Alternatively, they will make their wraith guard -1 to wound, in which case, you just need suppressing fire to make them hit on 5s. You can also use this trick to mitigate the return fire by hitting them with Infantry in the first in the shooting phase. As your opponent misses all his hit roles, read from the uplifting prior to shatter his moral completely. Top Anti-Eldar Tip 2: You can try to bait out fate dice at the start of the shooting phase by shooting the characters with Larkin and/or Karskin snipers. They will Fate dice to save them. This is a very situational strat, they may also just Phatasm the character or CP reroll. If the Elf across the table lets their character die, remind them that slaneesh will eat their soul. Top Tip 3: Reinforcing with Flamers near their infantry can force their phantasm, this is an important way to apply pressure and stop their phantasm ruining your fun. When you do this, remind your Elf-eared enemy that the guard does not need the witchcraft of farsight to outwit their targets. Top TIP 4: besides fire prisms, their long-range anti-tank is limited to Bright lancers. A rogal dorn in cover will happily tank them if they have a lot of Bright lances, pop smoke. Hitting of 4s, Wounding on 4s, and saving on 4s will leave your pointed-eared opponent very upset.

[@cranjusmc.baskettball5177]

This is great

[@MilitaryBuff]

Suffer not the Xenos to live!! For the Emperor!!!

[@percymacdonald6657]

Remember your training men, the Eldar are deadly!

[@art-games6230]

Everyone’s deadly in warfare

[@ShahbazBokhari]

I won’t lie, as an Emperor’s man, I have always loved to hate the Eldar. It makes it fluffy and crunchy both when you get the upper hand on em, it even makes the toilet dice saga a weirdly on brand Eldar thing to do. I think it’s almost ok for factions to all have their own unique brands of bullshittery, but some parity would be nice. Like you’ll sell more models for more factions if more of them are… well, viable. Radical notion. Also, love this format, have almost finished my force (have a land raider and a handful of characters to go) and I’m psyched to face the Xenos. -.- Edit: Also, the notion of a Know Your Foe series is fantastic. Especially as you yourself can add so much perspective with even admittedly anecdotal experience but it’s not irrelevant data at all.

[@troutwarrior6735]

This is such a good series idea!

[@AdamOnAnalogue]

As an Eldar player, I have a nightmare aganst hordes of infantry. Tanks are easily destroyed, but I never have enough guns/attacks to deal with waves of infantry. Also, we're not that durable.. If you have the ability to trade even at your own detriment eventually you're bound to overwhelm us in the later rounds as we have expensive limited units. Hide as much as you can from bright lances, destroying those vehicles with indirect fire. Good luck Mon-keighs.

[@ProxyHammer1]

Loved seeing this video! Very constructive advice without the BS or over complaining/ whining about Eldar I hear from other people creating 40K content. Excellent work!

[@nickthenoodle9206]

Always take 3 Hydras vs Eldar, as almost all of their best units can fly, including the Yncarne. Also Ursula Creed and autocannon against Wraithguard.

[@J1ffst3r]

This is the way. Hydras rule. Don't forget warpspiders have fly!

[@nickthenoodle9206]

So do Hawks and Spectres.@@J1ffst3r

[@TheWarpForge]

You said the world Eldar. THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!!!!

[@Max-zn4qt]

great series idea, much needed.

[@trollface3392]

as a relativly new guard player i must say you videos really helped me thanks

[@Mark_Batcheler]

Good idea for a series :)

[@tahjarch]

Commander, I've been waiting for this kind of debrief.

[@rhyscollins7409]

This is exactly what I needed to get better at warhammer 😊. Thanks mordian, looking forward to this series

[@maxwellmee7052]

I played my first two games of 10th against an eldar player, lost first in turn 3 and drew second as store was closing (End of round 2). Really focused my mind to improve my play. He'd played Eldar forever and I was kinda happy his army has its time to shine. They do need hitting with the nerf hammer though lol

[@jorgeparson7764]

Looking forward to this new series. Can't wait to see the World eaters one

[@Seruvius]

Very useful. Love to see this series continue on to a more factions.

[@masterkiller49]

Things to watch out for about the yncarne: if it charges a unit with a character, he can spend cp for precision, kill the character and teleport out the combat(because the teleport rule says out of engaegement range) and with you wont be able to strike it back...

[@BloodBuffalo]

Good segment idea. I don't get to play often so I know my friends factions and the bones of others but I want to do tournaments soon because I really only know how to play against guard, SM a little necrons and tyranids

[@rileyernst9086]

Fluff wise I can't help but think that Wyverns are the bane of Eldar. They are a mobile indirect fire vehicle with its own auspex scanner and which fires automatic vollies of mortar bombs. Against things like light skimmers and troops its basically death on tracks.

[@Spooktical]

6:40 After the January dataslate, this no longer is the case. Anyone referring to this video (good idea) should also look into the dataslate changes to Eldar (also a good idea, one good turn deserves another.)

[@HPLovecats]

cant wait to see the custodes video

[@BaronesaReturns]

Excellent video and series idea!

[@Storehouse-805]

Fantastic content my friend!

[@bkane573]

How to beat them? He human. Have faith in the Emperor.

[@gordycoe1058]

I love this ! ❤

[@sunnywood1619]

Please god, do a know-thy-foe for CSM. They are awful to play against and my meta is full of em. Weirdly I also struggle against Death Guard with their -toughness +ap etc etc shenanigens. Not nearly as tough as CSM though. forgefiends blast my tanks and their regenerating melee fellas feel a bit impossible to deal with

[@totalfan5801]

But MG, my uplifting primer told me that the faithless eldar are slow, stupid, hardly more than target practice.

[@bkane573]

Preach brother.

[@operator9858]

a natural choice for a series, but show us more enemy stats :P

[@tomtombinks1830]

Im super new to warhammer, and guard is my first and only army. Is it "normal" to feel disillusionment? Like it feels like every other army has all sorts of tricks and gimmicks or flavor, but we are fairly plain. Orders are cool, but thats our only flavor it feels. I love the lore of our guard but damn does it feel bad sometimes when it feels like everyone else has something cooler.

[@PF_K]

What makes the Guard great is that they are just a bunch of basically regular dudes fighting off the horrors of the universe. No fancy tricks, just the cold glory of driving the enemy before you with lasgun and bayonet. If you're not into that flavour you probably need to pick a different army.

[@tomtombinks1830]

@@PF_K That's the flavor I love in fantasy. The normal dude against unimaginable odds. But I wish the did more. Humans are tricky, smart, and capable. Is it really to much to ask that we have some way to give our hyper badass gurrilla warriors fall back and charge? Or hell since it's 40k just some flavor about undying human hatred or dedication. Give me the baddass last man standing sacrificing himself with a grenade explosion or something. Our infantry having a small deadly demise for that reason would he hella flavorful. As we are right now we just feel like tau with less interesting rules and datasheets. The IG is the endless hoard, but that doesn't mean it has to be boring

[@PF_K]

@@tomtombinks1830 We did have some more of those kinds of 'flavour' strats in 9th edition -- being able to call down artillery on your own units and such. But 10th has been streamlined (much for the better, in my opinion). Many of those kinds of abilities will probably make a comeback in the codex release. Also just an aside, but Rough Riders can fall back and charge. :)

[@Jaybirderino]

@tomtombinks1830 guard player here. by the datasheets guard is a straightforward, blunt army who's just trying to weigh the opponent down with numbers. Not true in the game though. Guard in 10th thrives on army coordination (Fields of Fire, Russ Exterminator, Hellhound, Creed for free Fields of Fire, etc.), careful use of orders to maximize your fighting efficiency versus survivability, and hard decisions bought with lives. When guard does a bayonet charge, it really is just a bayonet charge. That's what makes it awesome - to see a squad of infantry bare down on a squad of devastators and act like a stake pinning them to the earth, not killing them, but just holding with numbers and preventing the enemy from firing. Those men give their lives, one bloody inch at a time, not to kill the enemy right now, but to save some nearby tank crew who would otherwise get vaporized. Small and large sacrifices that add up until the enemy can stand no longer. I got carried away there. Anyway, praise the emperor!

[@javilo2797]

You cant beat us boyos!

[@4TheLion]

Mordian do some videos for Space Marine players

[@cavemansam8400]

FIX BAYONETS!!

[@Sha_Bingus]

Very surprised you haven't run into any Nightspinners, they are in almost every top table list atm. At the recent World Championship in the US held by GW there were dozens of Eldar lists and most of them ran triple Nightspinners. Basically it's Eldar indirect at 48" D6+3 S7, AP0 and 2 dmg hitting on a 3+ with a similar effect to the Basilisk, causing -2 to movement . Except you don't get to advance once hit, at all. On top of that it has Blast and Dev Wounds with Twin Linked. So your pricey Exalted Eightbound or Meganobz are -2 to move, can't advance, getting Dev Wounded (with rerolls) to death and also can never hide. Its not that expensive at 180, so why not take three. It murders guardsmen with its Blast keyword, can fish for dev wounds on tanks via twin linked and it hides out of line of sight so can't be shot back. Its only T9 so I guess you take manticores and win the artillery duel? Or tag it with Gaunts Ghosts/scions/callidus via backfield deepstrike. It's not unbeatable for some armies, like Chaos with the Mark of Nurgle strat but it definitely needs nerfed. Also when the Yncarne teleports to a dying unit, for some reason GW decided it doesn't count as a Normal move. So it can teleport across the entire board, then move its 10", and then guarantee a charge (with Fate Dice). Enjoy.

[@javilo2797]

Dmg is still trash for the price

[@Sha_Bingus]

@@javilo2797 Perhaps. I don't see why its so prolific in so many good player's lists then

[@javilo2797]

@@Sha_Bingus people clinging to what pros played 3 months ago, caged by their meta, those lists arent really winning anything anymore and only getting worse.

[@Sha_Bingus]

@@javilo2797 We'll see, glad to see them on the way out post the next patch regardless

[@tabuseventythree5678]

Strategy for playing against Orks?

[@MordianGlory]

That will be covered in the near future, stay tuned! :)

[@alexthomson3001]

Hadn't played for two editions.... When did Striking Scorpions get so OP? Banshees? Yeah they hit hard but can deal with. Shining Spears, Fuck they hit Hard, but can still deal with... Striking Scorpions though are Horrific. Have yet to see them Not make their points back. (And usually, they are the MVP)

[@sherlodo8363]

🎉🎉

[@robinburt5735]

Imperial Guard are probably one of the least effective armies against Eldar. First turn all the guard vehicles and characters are dead from rangers and Fire prisms. From there it is just mopping up (an Eldar and guard player)

[@zoso279]

Don't have any Rangers or Fire Prisms myself so going against my friend's Guard army was terrifying. Got a bunch of Howling Banchees and a few Wraith Blades having to approach a wall of plasma guns, grenade launchers, and las cannons. Was 2 fluff lists but got a melee infantry fluff list vs a jack of all trades and indirect fire fluff list so got mowed down quicker than I have in any game lol.

[@mikelmazzi7978]

Nice, ☝🏻😄👍🏻

[@Liliputian]

First?