How to become a PRO artist without Art School

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[@KristianNeeTV]

Sorry for low audio levels! For anyone having issues, here's just the podcast link with just the audio: open.spotify.com/episode/5fY4kxiEJWziJYSZoXzLvb?si=LETKBRczRyW5_XPu82RGqg

[@jazw4649]

Meh Im not on spotify 👎 audio is awful

[@moldycarrot9267]

@@jazw4649 😄

[@KungFuChess]

The value of art school is really in the experience you get with other artists and the real connections you make both professional and friendships. No online experience can compare to it

[@mlgrizzy]

I started drawing three months ago, and I can say I'm happy I took the leap and bought an art table and course. I'm 21 and never did anything creative as a kid. I was mostly just floating by, always waiting for something to happen. I tried all types of jobs and different career paths, like business, CNA, warehouse work, and security, which I'm doing now. I like security because I work at the hospital and actually go to calls and help people in distress every day. It's a good job, and I even thought of becoming a cop, but I sat down one day and really thought about what my interests were, and I noticed I loved everything creative. Art, music, and acting. I was also talking with a friend, and he was telling me all about the new car and apartment he got, and when I checked them out, I thought they were cool but never really needed. I don't really care about a nice car or apartment. I mean, they would be nice to have, and it changes when you get older, but I'm happy with one bedroom and a Honda as long as I can get by. That's when I decided I would start a career in art and actually try my hardest for the first time in my life. I have a ton of personal projects I want to one day achieve and want to learn as much as I can about these creative pursuits. Keep pushing forward and making your dream come true, no matter what.

[@angwypengwy]

I'm rooting for you! Thank you for sharing your story.

[@thecloseandsecondjohnmccor6527]

I started 3 months ago as well, I'm 19. I still don't really see any kinda of pathway in life to even start down, but I started drawing on a whim. For the first time in my life I felt like I had found something that actually fulfills me. I finally feel like I'm doing something that makes me think I'm spending my time right. I still have no clue what I want to do with art, but it feels so good just learning everything I can about it.

[@D.KRyley-mq1do]

Good luck man!

[@SaltAndVi]

What course are you following?

[@mlgrizzy]

@@SaltAndVi Art School By Marc Burnet

[@aldanasjuan]

I think you need to boost the voice. Hard to hear on a phone and it's waay lower than other videos so after upping the volume here to an acceptable volume, the next video will blow someone's ear. I think normalizing the recording and adding some maximizer and limiter just before the peaks of the audio start going red will do the trick. That's the easiest way, there's better ways of course but that'll do the trick.

[@KristianNeeTV]

Thanks for tips! I'll fix for the next one

[@EMMmaximino]

I don’t know it was audible using phone volume ( at least for me) but using head phones is where the difference was in low audibility.

[@nibernator]

100% agree. On my laptop with the Volume of the computer set at 100%, and youtube vol set at 100%, and still finding it hard to hear with headphones....

[@zeke8858]

I can hear it just fine Edit: nevermind! I went to max volume

[@terranova8890]

As a beginner studying graphic design i can already feel how the presence and guidance of my proffesor really helps me understand some things, practice is everything yes but this feedback from experienced artist is quite valuable and hard to replace.

[@ad1kher0gaming71]

I started to seriously take drawing a month ago. I used to draw all the time as a kid- comics, made my own lil animations in Flipaclip- you name it. However, it was just doodles and I never bothered to learn the fundamentals and stuff because it was just smth I usually did to pass the time. Around 15 years old I made a KZbin channel with animations and that single decision spiralled my life downhill, especially so after my supposed best friend found out and told everyone. I didnt have a life in high school, bullied for days on end until I was severely depressed and considered taking my own life. After my 2nd year I transferred to a different school. Now I'm 21 and since then I simply lost the joy for art and stopped. That is until very lately when I decided to re-kindle my love for art. Better late than never I suppose. I truly wish to one day make something that I can truthfully call mine. I decided to take my time and keep moving and pushing forward no matter the stakes in hopes of one day being able to draw professionaly, maybe make a living off of it. Thank you so much for this video and to anyone reading this comment- Please, do not give up on your dreams. I gave up once and it was the biggest mistake I ever made. And one i'm not about to repeat again. Keep practicing, keep pushing through, keep drawing. Make those personal projects a reality.

[@wisonhendrik5855]

51:00 probably the most hit on the truth. People will know if your art is genuinely make by your true self. Many of my friends consider making art are just to please for customer or audience which I think this is very false on thinking. Yes, there are some priority you need to please the customer but that doesn't mean you are making art just for the sake for them. You are making the art becuase you you geniunely love art in the first place.

[@catabasiis]

Love Peter's work and all his interviews/lives are awesome! Thanks for the content!

[@artofmenezes]

Thanks for bringing this to us Kristian, and I hope that you keep on with your personal journey doing this podcast.There's so much gold content in here, that I'll try to listen at least two podcasts per week. Thanks a lot!

[@silentobserver4425]

Thank you both for this conversation and podcast. Ive been following Peter Han and his lives are awesome, I recently found this podcast and im glad they crossed!

[@thedweller6115]

Man such a good video i absolutely loved how real this conversation felt and i got it right when i needed it.

[@JaredCullum]

Love his work! Thanks for this. I love your interviews

[@dwintster]

Great interview. It was very enlightening. I'm still on thay path of self-discovery. Coming from an Industrial design background we were introduced to the importance of ergonomics early on and the shop teacher actually did a custom build on all the desk to make them more ergonomic. Basic ergonomics to avoid injury aren't hard I would recommend every artist/designer pick up a book on it and use it to help set up their work stations. Along with taking breaks when necessary, regular exercise and a healthier diet (perfection not needed but just try get in more fruits and veggies daily.) How you eat, sleep and move dramatically effects how you feel from day to day.

[@sojh17]

Yess I love how deep y'all got! Also great to see Peter again, I took the dynamic sketching courses with him probably getting close to a decade ago at CGMA! And yes I'm still drawing, and yes the career has taken many unexpected turns compared to where I thought I was gonna go.

[@LotusSpider]

beautiful flow and many insightful thoughts, thank you ^-^

[@lintern77]

I studied graphic design in college. It wasn't my first choice but helped me in the years coming out of college. Becoming a pro illustrator without art school took a while but I could fall back on graphic design while I built up my illustration career.

[@xxmarren]

this was just fantastic! it really helped me a lot, i currently struggle a lot with what you talked about, feeling like i started as too old and that im not progressing as i should but this really helped me re-center and look forward to drawing instead of sorta dreading it

[@karimdaouiji9146]

Great talk, thanks for your voice. I loved the part, that we are all human and the thing that is between a starter that committed to his journey and a successful person is just literally time. Out of experience, I can only agree to that 100%. Cheers!

[@nightnol]

Awesome conversation. Thanks for sharing!

[@mf--]

This interview reminds me of Daniel Warren Johnson's Extremity; specifically, the theme of self identity and purpose of an artist regardless of surroundings. In the first issue, the main character, the community's artist, loses her drawing hand in a wild Max Max / Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind world. How the character deals with that situation is a universal struggle of identity and motivation.

[@juanpanordo5375]

great video!!!, love the themes talked!!!

[@ZeeOwlMan]

Listened to the Spotify version, since the youtube version's audio was too low. Was quite a nice listen, and learned certain helpful bits I'll keep around in my head.

[@cdewx5749]

Big. I've learned a lot from Han's videos/interviews.

[@KurtStaInes]

It’s necessary to have two mics . It’s not the volume but the distance of sound to the mic . That’s why he sounds like a background voice. Either way you can adjust this on your video editing software for audio levels.

[@KevDecorMusic]

Great stuff guys thank you

[@felicianomiko5659]

My man with the #vanlife! I’m doing #buslife right now and have been for 4 years. It rekindled my pursuit of art after 20 years. I just didn’t have the discipline or confidence to follow through in after high school, or the money, let’s be honest. But now I do and it’s been a great journey relearning the craft. Great interview, but the sound needs a little remixing. Just because my iPad is doing it’s best but the speakers are maxed. lol

[@STLwildlifeArt]

Great episode!We need more artists talking podcasts! More artist hangouts

[@LoveBystroem]

Really curious how it sounds to the people who can’t hear because it really sounds fine to me! Great video

[@user-pm2gg3hw5j]

this is an amazing conversation

[@ValhallaForArtists]

Noooice! Thank you for the interview Kristian, watching during breakfast (-:

[@KristianNeeTV]

Thanks homie :)

[@user-pm2gg3hw5j]

Peter Han is a very smart man, I love when he speaks.

[@aciduss]

You will be remembered Peter Han

[@omedha.4176]

This was really scuffed, but it doesnt take away from the beautiful back and forth you guys had!

[@huitzilinf_art]

I would really like to listen to this interview while drawing but it's unfortunately too hard to hear

[@KristianNeeTV]

Sorry about that! Will keep in mind for next time

[@Eshan686]

... increase your volume lol?

[@huitzilinf_art]

@@Eshan686 damn, you're right. I should've thought about that

[@gh0stwritten]

You should try putting the mic on an arm with a shock mount so we don't get those loud booms when you hit the table.

[@KristianNeeTV]

Switching to lav mics

[@HuangLin-bm1oo]

22:00 Just listened to a portfolio review by Nathan Fowkes over the Schoolism Discord. What kind of made me panicked and have pessimism was that he said there's less junior jobs for artist because, in my interpretation (and not his words), it's because we are much more replaceable and they want to hire people who are able to bring more unique skillsets than something that even AI can do. The panic for me is really starting to set in

[@hristohristov5218]

Peter has been such a modern age hero for me , thanks for inviting him and sharing the conversation

[@cloud766]

it does for me.

[@RoddVeiler]

Sometimes i feel like the passion and ambition will fade away because im not too obsessed with this like the millennials or older artists. When i was five i already have a phone and even though i drew at that time i wasnt obsessed like Peter Han did say he just ,,was sitting there and drew” all the time. So my question is, should i stop worrying about other people’s ambition and past and just continue drawing and practicing in my own way… everyday

[@brushrunner]

Hey peter how does that Van smell? FYI i used to live in a campervan as well 😂

[@ElijahMoore-Restfulnights]

Hey man great video. Your audio seems to be kind of low though. It may just be me. Thanks for the video anyway.

[@paultimson6674]

You don't go to Art School to learn how to draw? unless you are in Russia. Some fabulous painting schools there. You Go to art school to be seen.. To talk shit, and absorb madness. Then churn out madness. DRAWING and PAINTING? is the last thing they teach. They did a fine Comic adaption, art school confidential, all about it. Its 99 percent accurate.

[@danielcalencar]

Where can we find that adaptation?

[@paultimson6674]

@@danielcalencar Comic book confidential? should be online? there are comic book archives. its only 4 pages you may find it as google images

[@EMMmaximino]

@@danielcalencarthey a made a movie off of it too

[@momopeach4661]

❤️❤️

[@wav4573]

seems like the interviewer focuses on the struggle with being an artist as a human who does art, Peter seems to focus on being an artist that also happens to be human.

[@rap36case]

Does Art school mean college, or Atelier or both? Is the atelier system better for learning to create Art?

[@HiddenHandMedia]

The sound is fine. I don't understand what everyone is complaining about

[@anitataraki5512]

You know what it was good for developing a rhythm or even a work ethic that people can catch onto, but you mentioned some things that make the process complicated because we're all on a schedule.

[@milkman6218]

why is your camera so stable yet the on Peter Han looks as if its in the midst of an earthquake?

[@KristianNeeTV]

I had a really bad tripod on his camera lol

[@Leikjarinn]

Yes🖋️🖋️🖋️🖋️🖋️🖋️🖋️🖋️

[@nickjassoiii]

I once met him in the zoo and I showed him a painting I had and he said keep going.

[@LeoneDeloris4730]

Great Video with Peter Han!

[@ElementalMJ]

"Have you met any artist in shape?" Umm... I feel like Kristian missed this cue. Peter is in dam good shape.

[@ericeakes7733]

I don't believe anyone "becomes" an artist. One either has the passion and or obsession to do it, or they don't.. money isn't the determining factor. It's not a gage for success.

[@arielblakart]

That true I believe the same. However even more important than that is the crazy determination you need to have to keep at it until you start making some type of money from it. It has to be your life and not just part of it

[@ericeakes7733]

Agreed,..many have been the times when I had to choose between my craft and making my bills...the good news though is the experience gathered each time is portable and grows with age. At least it has been for me. I'll be retiring in 4 years. From my regular job. After I retire I'll resume where I left off.

[@neeevirus]

​@@arielblakartI agree with the sheer amount of determination needed to succeed It's not just the initiative of wanting to draw that matters but the perseverance to go through the hellish learning curve at the start Ive seen people who wanted to become an artist and did have the intiative but they didnt have what it takes and gave up early. It honestly seems like a filter, or a trial on who is and isnt an artist

[@fizzymizzy_]

your comparison between the attitude of a student going to art school and a muslim going for pilgrimage was incredible.

[@kapifromnevada4697]

Imagine if a certain Austrian painter had this video

[@carlosemiralonso7997]

I dont mind listen to this "podcast" but voice are low, sound doesn't go like for instants a radio. And my computer is already at 100% volume. Check that on the future, better to be loud and ask people to put volume low, than otherwise.

[@Ghoullible]

You probably need an amp for your headphones. It sounds fine in phone

[@trigestigro4707]

Mic is too far away, i think thats why it sounds lower, but its pretty audible to me

[@buddymiles7210]

He’s sharing one mic between two people so he’s working with what he has

[@bozoclown2098]

I researched my history

[@bozoclown2098]

Not good advise or viewpoint . But point understood

[@IriaChannel]

most quiet video on YT

[@zidjo]

second to one hour of silence broken by occasional yoda death sound effect

[@rdallas1614]

Why become a pro commercial artist when even the established pros are having their careers decimated by AI. The harsh reality is that there is an over supply of highly skilled people in a contracting market. Becoming a pro is a high risk and often low reward endvevour. Perhaps AI cloacking software may change the game, but it's unlikely as few people are promoting it online

[@robasaurus2000]

Wish the interviewer let the Peter talk more, feel like he interjects too much

[@altonsetterfield]

It's called a conversation.

[@HardcoreGame11]

please try to stop saying yes, uhum,absolute, yeah.... with every sentence the guy says, these language errors make the video very noisy

[@2am17]

just chill out and let yourself enjoy life, no need to nitpick. this is just how people talk.

[@czeqer]

I need a community & other creatives to talk/rant with about art & riff ideas as well. Maybe i should make a video about it 🫡

[@KristianNeeTV]

You should!