How to - Bentwood rings - Best Method to start!

[@GomeowCreations]

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[@scottxfactoraudio8799]

Since there are a lot of comments about the wood "breaking"... Softening "any" wood is best when using a multiple of tricks. But it is always - Water or alcohol, with an added conditioner. There are many things you can add to the liquid if you are having problems. Like, "salt, bleach and baking soda". Heat, time and sometimes "pressure" are your primary variables. (Try using a "pressure cooker" to heat the veneer for a short time). "Especially" with the harder, tighter grained hardwoods. (Like "Bloodwood", Rosewood etc.)! The standard is warm-hot water with a quality "wood conditioner" added to the heated water. "Most conditioners are glycerin based". Ask/call the veneer companies and always shop around"! (There isn't a wood you cannot bend to your will). Well... "Except for maybe old, fully dry-cured, "African Ebony", also called "Ironwood"! Some "Burlwoods", like "Mappa Burl" can be problematic because of their inherent structure, which can cause, "Crumbling" but there are ways around that too! Experiment! Good Luck!

[@DreamwoodRings]

Great tip! Thank you!

[@IIIofV]

You owe me a new cup of coffee. Yes, I spilled my damn drink laughing at your crumbled mess. Thanks ! I enjoyed it. :)

[@DreamwoodRings]

I apologize! Hopefully it was nice and Luke warm at that point 😅 thank you for watching!

[@wallypaige8496]

Why does my veneer break. Very hard to get good ones. How do you get a tight fit? The rest usually breaks. I even try to boil it for an hour. What am I doing wrong?

[@DreamwoodRings]

I find that some woods just don't want to be bent. I stay away from those. It could possibly be that the veneer is too thick as well?

[@scottxfactoraudio8799]

It "ALL", depends on the wood. They are all different. So, all need a different "tact" when softening. I've never had a wood that I couldn't bend to my will "easily", (once I figured it out it's secrets)! They bend a tall-ships "Keel" don't they?

[@SilverMac47]

Best ring making video on KZbin 😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@DreamwoodRings]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 😅

[@wallypaige8496]

What kind of glue do you use?

[@DreamwoodRings]

We use CA glue which you can find on our site! shopdreamwood.com/collections/glues-and-accelerator

[@j.joseph5353]

How thick is the veneer you use? I can readily find .2 and .5mm but it looks like what you're using is thicker. Any cons to using super thin veneer? I'm concerned about how the rings will look when viewed from the profile.

[@DreamwoodRings]

Most the veneer I am using is around .5mm, it does go up to around .7mm on some of them though. I think .5 is perfect.

[@j.joseph5353]

@@DreamwoodRings Appreciate the response. Cheers.

[@scottxfactoraudio8799]

The thinner the veneer? the less forgiving it can be when working it, "sanding etc.".

[@onehandedmaker]

Greetings from Australia. Love your work and your videos.

[@DreamwoodRings]

Thank you very much!

[@nienkevisser9725]

Is there a way of making this thin bentwood yourself?

[@DreamwoodRings]

Bentwood rings can definitely be made using little to now power tools!

[@aryanlopez7247]

Can you make a video where you make a bentwood ring out of Bloodwood veneer? I’m trying to make one of my own but I’ve been having problems with getting the wood to bend and I haven’t found any help online about working with bloodwood

[@DreamwoodRings]

I am not sure if I have blood wood! But I can surely take a look. Sometimes, they just don't work. Have you tried thinning out the veneer and working with it that way?

[@scottxfactoraudio8799]

See my posts above, Bloodwood is my FAVORITE! It just needs patience, and a few tricks....

[@johnnyboy5184]

Hey sorry I'm asking on an old video but do you have any tips for this issue I'm having, essentially its kinda difficult to keep the veneer from strafing off when bending and in this happening bending it back is creating small gaps, I've tried lining it up so many times but it always ends up strafing a little bit causing this

[@DreamwoodRings]

I have had this problem sometimes with warped wood or if I don't start straight? Most the time comes from a warped veneer after I get it wet.

[@johnnyboy5184]

@@DreamwoodRings ah, Im unsure, it might be just a case of practice for me then, thanks for your response! :D

[@scottxfactoraudio8799]

Patience, time and wood conditioners....

[@SomethingFromTheShed]

Do you ship to the UK ?

[@DreamwoodRings]

We do! There are a few shipping options, I think it is around $20. You can set up an order with out placing it to see what the shipping would be for sure.

[@BIGTASTY90]

Am i understanding correctly... if I want to make a specific size ring. I should wrap it around the mandrel on one size bigger?

[@DreamwoodRings]

That is usually how I do it! I say test it out and see what works best for you. The wood will shrink when you add the glue. And it will also give you room to add a finish to the inside!

[@BIGTASTY90]

@@DreamwoodRings ah that makes perfect sense. Literally the first video I've seen for this type of thing. I'm brand new and haven't ever tried anything like this. Fascinated to try and hopefully sell some as a side hobby

[@DreamwoodRings]

@@BIGTASTY90 happy to help where I can! Check out our site for any supplies you might want as well!

[@BIGTASTY90]

@@DreamwoodRings first thing I looked for is a stepped mandrel. Can't find one at all in my country (south africa) and I've never shipped anything internationally

[@YerUncleWillie]

Try a socket from a socket set?

[@kingruba8657]

Whata is this board name

[@DreamwoodRings]

Hey there, what board do you mean?

[@kingruba8657]

@@DreamwoodRings The name of the ring ringing board

[@DreamwoodRings]

@@kingruba8657 I think what you mean is called a self healing cutting mat

[@signmeupruss]

soaking in boiling the water and add a few drops of glycerin to reduce the breakage.

[@DreamwoodRings]

We will try that, just apply on the wet wood?

[@signmeupruss]

@@DreamwoodRings i typically use a mix of about 6 parts water, one part glycerin and 3 parts isopropyl alcohol. Spraying the wood works for minor splintering, but I do soak veneers which are really troublesome. Experiment. I have used some truly beautiful crotch veneers that were just terrible. To use them I start blue painter's tape on a mandrel, often a drill bit or wooden dowel slightly smaller than the final ring size. Then, after one complete wrap of the tape, I start the veneer. But here is the trick: the tape is laid out sticky side up with the drill bit near me on a solid smooth surface. Then, I can compress the veneer onto the solid surface and roll the drill bit over it. With the tape serving as a backer, It supports the veneer as it is rolled. Then, I tape it and let it dry. Sometimes i need to scrap the tape off after drying, but that is not a problem. Best of luck.

[@jamesdelvechio8519]

all my woods break!

[@DreamwoodRings]

I wonder if the veneer you are using is too thick? Have you been able to try a maple wood?

[@jamesdelvechio8519]

@@DreamwoodRings I think I may be a little "hard" on my self since all the woods I've been trying to bend are all exotic hard woods. I haven't tried domestics yet. Burls seem almost impossible to bend.

[@excelsior8682]

@@jamesdelvechio8519 I would suggest taking a hand planer for wood, and trying to shave off thing slices of the wood and attach the pieces together with CA glue, like you would normally roll them together. Might take a few slices, but for exotic wood you might have no choice because it's a very special lady, who needs very special treatment

[@scottxfactoraudio8799]

@@jamesdelvechio8519 Find my posts above.... Patience is a virtue...

[@mim2046]

I guess if your video is not to show people how to make them, you succeeded.

[@DreamwoodRings]

This is how we start and bend the veneer as we noticed a lot of folk were having a hard time with this initial step. Check out our other videos, we have a more detailed 3 video series making bentwood rings from start to finish.

[@jamesdafoe174]

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