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@connysieben4 жыл бұрын
As a beginner, I was looking all over the place for advice like this. There are a million Emergencybrake Videos but no actual stopping video So thank you so much, Kevin !
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@markburrows10254 жыл бұрын
Aqua Marin kevin is the best instructor Ive found
@steveapel29614 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching your braking video, as a rather seasoned rider, been riding for 40 years on almost exclusively sportbikes you probably should have added a couple important science facts, the front brake provides 70 percent of braking power on motorcycles. Not quite sure about crusiers, but if you convert braking force into kinetic energy, the brakes are actually more powerful than the bikes engine. In addition, brakes are not a on,/off device like turning a light off or on. Especially on a racetrack, and this info can absolutely be applied to street riding, you have to learn how to " modulate" the brake lever, especially the front brake. You don't just jam it on all the way, you " caress" the lever by gently applying pressure and then gently adding more if needed. I routinely won't touch the rear brakes to stop, but lately I do to save wear on the front brake pads. Yes, on the street both brakes should be used simultaneously when stopping. As far as sticking out both feet from the pegs, whoever heard of that? Even as a kid many moons ago, no one did that. What's sad is that society has changed in the last couple decades, with the emphasizeing of personal egos taking prescidence over actual learning and/ or increasing skill level of a given craft. I see a lot of misinformation on line regarding Motorsports, both 2 and 4 wheel. And, I don't need to " feel cool" riding. I just love doing it. One last thing, you don't begin playing violin and then play Mendelssohns violin concerto next month. IT TAKES TIME TO GET GOOD. Above all, always wear proper gear, watch out at intersections and have fun!
@scottnunya69944 жыл бұрын
I "live to ride"... what I mean by that is I'm a disabled Vet and ride within my limitations... since I can't work anymore, I ride as much as I can. I live in southern Utah... I ride Zion Canyon, Kolob Canyon, Cedar Breaks, Duck Creek, Mammoth Springs, Bryce Canyon, Grand Staircase, Goblin Valley, Kodachrome Basin, Capitol Reef, GC North Rim, Hell's Backbone, Kolob Terrace Road... all these are local day trips... out-lunch-and back. Lots of twistys... love the views... I frequently watch Kevin's youtubes... usually several per week. I appreciate the effort Kevin puts into his videos. So... keep up the good work and I hope more riders watch your channel... we need good, safe riders out there... and with any luck, the good examples will bring more responsible riders to our "hobby". And, I hate to call riding a hobby, for a lot of Vets, wind-therapy is the best medicine for PTSD... the VA should buy every Vet the motorcycle of their choice... got to be cheaper than all those meds and treatment.
@fredorico414 жыл бұрын
Another thing I might add is, when I stop, I have the bike in 1st gear and the clutch in ready to takeoff again.
@grahamnumber71234 жыл бұрын
Yep and always leave space for an escape route.
@toolporeviews3 жыл бұрын
noob biker here. I want to learn this technique. somehow I always come up with my engine turning off. 😂
@houseofelectronics58693 жыл бұрын
@@toolporeviews what do you mean engine turning off? You don't use the clutch when you stop?
@bigbang2593 жыл бұрын
@@houseofelectronics5869 you should not use the clutch man. On high speed it can kill you. You break and engine break at the same time. Its better to use the clutch and downshift only when you reached your minimum gear speed, before getting stalled
@chrishart22773 жыл бұрын
I heard it is bad if youre holding the clutch for a long time.p
@styleajet3 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm a new rider and have struggled with smooth stopping. I rode earlier with my husband today but WILL try this next ride. I've been using the better method thus far.
@2kanchoo4 жыл бұрын
For me the most important part of braking is planning an escape route, watching the mirrors not only when stopped but also when slowing down in case I need to forget braking altogether and continue ahead following my escape route because the person behind me isn't stopping, and keeping the bike in first gear ready/able to roll out at any time during the entire process for the same reason. Had to use my escape route once last year to avoid being rear ended, glad I've made these steps force of habit. Yes you can go years maybe even decades without incident but you'll be glad you were properly prepared/practiced/good habits that one time you do need it. Edit: Also wanted to add that the drone shots are awesome! They not only look so cool but the way it can follow you makes it perfect as a teaching tool too.
@wallywalroo72964 жыл бұрын
2kanchoo I practice in the same manner for the same potential hazards that are always lurking. It’s not a matter of knowing what to do but like you said it’s a matter of having it drilled into habit so it pops out and you execute it-in that micro second that you need to👍🏻
@alt98744 жыл бұрын
- I agree 98%...I like your "Best" strategy but I believe that at the very end, when you've stopped, putting the right foot to the ground adds sideway stability. - The benefits you mention about keeping your foot on the brake (to take off quickly or perform tight manoeuvres) can all still be done, you just lift your right foot when you initiate the move. - While stopped, having FOUR points of contact (two tires & two feet) is more stable than keeping your right foot on the brake. Thanks, AL
@abradford34564 жыл бұрын
Al T I agree once your completely stopped on level ground but only left foot down and right foot on rear brake while stopped on a hill or descend works best for me. Thanks.
@BootsandJeansRiders4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin...Watch all of you videos but usually don't comment. However I feel that this is a very important topic (Outside of emergency braking). I see this allll the time, Riders putting down both feet before the bike comes to a complete stop. And I must agree with you 100%. Also see riders dragging their feet as they take off from a stop. When I ask why...The answer usually is, "because I always do it" or "Whats wrong with it". As much as we talk to our group about it, some things never change. We will definitely direct them to this video. Thanks.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing...I see a lot of boot draggers too.
@garymark51524 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, How are you going mate. My name is Gary I am 56 years old and have just purchased my first road bike a Honda CBR 125 R, I had trail bikes as a kid. I have been watching you basic training videos and I find the instruction very valuable and concise, highly educational. You are a great teacher and I love your work. Hats off to you, I will continue watching. Have a good one. Cheers
@bobf43ca4 жыл бұрын
On a police training course I took, we learned your best stop as in your video, and to keep the bike in 1st gear, ready to go forward in case a car behind us did not stop. We also learned to depart with a slight pressure on the rear brake for the first 5 - 10 feet of the start, to keep the bike upright. Stops the bike from wobbling on the start. great video.
@geepers1004 жыл бұрын
When using "best" method just keep your fingers lightly resting on front brake until stop completed. Your foot can slip off the rear brake pedal and you shoot out into the intersection. Ask me how I know ;)
@savhuman89224 жыл бұрын
@@badgerman23 And you need to learn that you are not always right daddy.
@stevesteele32393 жыл бұрын
How do you know
@linagarett2 жыл бұрын
Im glad you survived that whole ordeal. Hopefully no one was hurt.
@lewismingledorff64172 жыл бұрын
I've been riding for many years but never had a rider course. The information, tips and strategies Kevin provides have vastly improved my skills and made me more safe on the roadways. Thank you, Kevin
@jeffdurocher86694 жыл бұрын
I've been riding for years, I've taken the almost, advanced class but you are always teaching and truly the information is priceless. Thank you!
@richardl.palmer71964 жыл бұрын
two things happen when I watch one of your videos: I know that I am going to learn something important. I know that sometime during my next ride I am going to practice what I just learned. a new habit I have is that I always will practice emergency breaking. Thank you again
@TheChromeRonin3 жыл бұрын
Still a new rider, initially I was having trouble with stopping with my foot on the brake,as the bike would start to lean slightly right sometimes, so right foot kept going down. I think this was sometimes looking down at my foot as I was learning, and sometimes just not braking straight. What I have found to help, is tilting my head slightly left, and that very last part of the stop, a little counter steer pressure on the left hand, just enough to make sure the bike stops and always drops to the left onto my left foot. I found this out when stopping behind cars, I wanted to make sure my escape was out to their right (left hand drive country) and started finding this was reliably letting me put only my left foot down. Also, when engine braking, I do drag the rear brake just a little to make sure my brake light is on. What I am still working on is how to revmatch downshifting while applying the front brake too.
@wildberj4 жыл бұрын
Foot on brake allows you to be ready to pump the brake to alert the car coming up behind you. Also foot on the brake helps keep your bikes stable in a gust of wind. Thank you Kevin
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@karenshoucairmcgray49024 жыл бұрын
Some of my friends stop with the bad technique, as that is how they were taught in class so they say. I have tried to stop this way, and it is too uncomfortable, and difficult for me to do. I was taught to stop the best way, and have had some tip overs as maybe I lost my balance, looking somewhere else, or the road was on an incline. Maybe I should practice the better way as I ride a heavy weight motorcycle, and I am almost flat foot but not quite. I feel so much more comfortable, and in control of my bike when I take off with the best way. When I stop my natural feel is left foot down, and right foot on that rear brake ready to go. Thank you Kevin for posting this!
@michelleroberts58264 жыл бұрын
I just started riding a few months ago and have been watching a bunch of videos. I saw this same tip and practiced it last week. I was taught to finish my steps with front brake only but this is WAY smoother!
@skyking2284 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I was taught to start braking with the rear and then apply the front brake. Once stopped keep both feet up and balance as long as possible until you can reach 30 seconds then right foot down, left foot covering the gears and right hand on the brake. Sounds like you keep your clutch engaged during the entire stop. Different strokes... Fun and interesting to watch, thanks!
@philtil89773 жыл бұрын
If you put your bike in neutral at traffic lights, you are inviting disaster.
@skyking2283 жыл бұрын
@@philtil8977 Negative. IMHO while stopped at a red light it's safest to have right foot down, front brake applied, trans in neutral with left foot covering gear shift. Habits and muscle memory have helped me escape several times.
@MCrider3 жыл бұрын
What is your opposition to having the bike in gear?
@skyking2283 жыл бұрын
@@MCrider First and foremost you have an excellent channel that's helped thousands of motorcycle enthusiasts. Yes, when you come to a stop at a red light you need to be in complete control of the bike. Right foot down on the pavement for stabilization. Right hand on the front brake to hold the motorcycle in place and ready to rev the throttle. Left hand fingers resting on the clutch lever not cramping up holding the lever in for 2 to 3 minutes at each light. Left foot covering the gear shift lever while it's in neutral so you know the status of your trans and can easily/quickly drop her into first gear. All to often we get claims in where the rider was rear ended because he/she was distracted at the light and at the last second see a cager barreling up behind them and they panic. They'll have the trans in first, second or even third, let the clutch out too fast and stall out. Even with a quick restart and a foot shuffle to the gear lever you could be in trouble. Why not simply enjoy the distraction at the light and if you see trouble coming and do panic let your muscle memory and training kick in, tap her into first and roll on? Congrats on 262K Subscribers btw.
@abradford34564 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin I’ve been trying to use the best method each time I go out. I only use 2 feet down after I’m completely stop or I’m doubling and or on level ground. I’ve learned a lot from your videos, only wished I knew of these techniques and skills when I started riding in the 70’s but I’ve survived this far without any major incidents, thank the Lord. Thanks for your enthusiasm and wanting to pass on what you know for others sake.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and thank you for supporting the channel as a member!!!
@Freedomridingcompany4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin. I'm am a new rider and it's funny that I have actually done all three methods while learning. I have found that the use of the rear brake during the last part of the stop helps incredibly with keeping the bike from feeling like it will tip over. Good video, thank you. JP
@axslinger99 Жыл бұрын
I'm only 5'8" and ride an Indian Springfield. I have been using this technique since I first discovered it. With some practice, I'm able to keep both feet up until I'm barely moving. It prevents the lurching of using only the front brake and as you said, if you're stopping on an incline, you have much more control. The right foot keeps you from rolling backwards and you can slowly let off the back brake as the bike begins to move. I'm quite surprised how many, "seasoned" riders, many in MC's, have such terrible habits. Dragging their feet while taking off and while stopping. Both of my feet are up the instant the bike begins to move. I learned some great habits from your videos. Also, the Arizona Drill Team does an advanced rider class and they teach to keep the right foot up, even after you stop.
@maxwellmark4 жыл бұрын
Clear, concise and well described. I’ve had those situations where in the planned stop was made shorter for some unforeseen reason. Basically a normal stop quickly changed into an emergency stop. This is a very good reason to have both feet on the pegs before the bike stops. What if you need a quick steering correction and you’re relying on front brakes to stop at the same time....you’re simply not prepared. Plus, say you’re stopping is interrupted and you you need to go....weight shift from stop to go is an unbalanced position when your feet are off the pegs. Thanks for the point to point description, stay healthy 😷
@kevinh7534 жыл бұрын
I fully agree that where conditions allow, your "best" technique is the one to use, and I generally use it out of habit now after much practice. Here in South Africa we drive on the left, which means that the road usually slopes away to the left and this is especially severe on older roads that have been resurfaced several times over the decades - they usually just build up the surface of the main part of the road and leave the drainage gutters where they are. Sometimes you find the surface of the road is just a bit too far from your left foot to be able to come to a stop comfortably or safely. In those circumstances I do use your "better" technique. I expect this is a problem common in many countries that drive on the left. Thanks for this video - great lessons as usual.
@brendakay54984 жыл бұрын
Just want to thank you very much for all your wonderful videos I got my motorcycle last May and been watching all your videos I used to have one years ago but boy the refresher on all of it is good hoping to take the road test to get my license I just have a Temps I believe I can do it after watching all your videos just want to give a big thank you and plus all the brothers and sisters on their bikes and be careful and make sure to watch and God bless all of you and thank you for the beautiful videos
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Brenda, thanks for the kind words.
@benedictionj54694 жыл бұрын
“Accumulation of those small things that make the difference” Thanks a lot sir. Will practice more of this.
@vess20674 жыл бұрын
I am still in awe of those kickass drone shots. Excellent work, Kevin.
@beepbop66972 жыл бұрын
Very clear and informative demonstration of the three stopping techniques -- the side-by-side videos showing the comparison is really well done.
@lippybar61364 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. Many thanks for preparing this video. This is one of the most important technics I’ve learned from you as a new rider. You are right, unfortunately it’s very common to see the bad habit of putting both feet in the ground when coming to a complete stop. Regards from Chile!!!
@Aoshiplays4 жыл бұрын
I am a new rider and I like these kinds of videos that explains the reasoning on why you do it!
@jamieweirdworld4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Goldwing rider, let me add that it's always a good idea to instruct a beginner passenger, that it's important they try to remain fairly still as the motorcycle comes to a complete stop. Nothing can upset a motorcycle quite like when a passenger suddenly tries to shift to a more comfortable position, or decides to lean out to see over your shoulder, just as you're coming to a stop. Especially on an 800 pound bike.
@bigjeff12914 жыл бұрын
jamieweirdworld You sound as if you speak from lots of “2 up” experience! I know EXACTLY what you’re talking about!😉.
@marekstawicki88114 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin! This recalls one of my favourite saying: "good, better, best, never let it rest, untill your good is better and better is best":)
@thaik564 жыл бұрын
In a car, I ease off the brakes right before coming to a stop to lower the load on the front wheels, it just feels better, also, it encourages you to do most of your braking earlier.
@TheChromeRonin3 жыл бұрын
Also reduces nosedive right at the end of the stop. In a manual it also helps when you clutch in for the final part of the stop and you loose engine braking, much easier to modulate that pressure if you are already lightening it. I had already been using that technique on the bike, after watching this Im glad I was on the right track. 8)
@anilrampersad2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant illustration of bad braking 😂 2:54
@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how clear you communicate these techniques and the rationale behind them. I absolutely agree - slow with both brakes and finish with the rear. If riders get in the habit of getting their hand off the front brake when under 5 mph, it gives them a much better chance to escape with control when the situation isn’t perfect.
@rebecca55524 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos your knowledge, patience and passion for the motorcycle. I just watched your video about your back story of college and the military. I want to say what a touching story and such courage and strength you have to work so hard for all you have achieved. Thank you so much for your service and your videos..they are such a help and you are such a blessing!!
@Mike-cx2xs4 жыл бұрын
I ride a 600 lb bike. My 33 year old daughter rides with me on a 550 lb bike. I don't want to give her lectures, stopped that when she was a teenager. I just ask her to watch these videos. Also, I say please practice!
@terribletcm4 жыл бұрын
For taller riders: I just upgraded from a Ninja 300 to an FZ07. The more upright angle really helped me get better at using that rear brake, after 2 years of riding!
@timothy____19894 жыл бұрын
@6:40 yikes that light pole was close! Does your folllow-me camera have sensors for such objects? I use a combination of better-best, stopping as you describe using both brakes, but after stopped and left foot is down I almost always put my right foot down due to oil/gravel on the road, having a passenger and it’s ALWAYS windy here in Oklahoma ! Thanks for the tip about rear-brake only the last few feet, interesting!!
@rogerjohnson85404 жыл бұрын
Hi, rider of 40years and instructor for 15 here, I just wanted to endorse your advice for this general stopping technique. Can I add two builds which I’ve found helpful when teaching riders who are short in the leg relative to the height of the bike, firstly a minute turn of the bars to the right just before the point of stopping can be helpful in making the bike stop with a left lean, second probably more relevant to countries where the driving is on the left ( nearly half the world’s population!), sometimes you have to stop right foot down if the camber to the left is too great or there’s a pothole to get your foot down safely...... just go easy on the front brake once below 5ish mph. Keep up the good work and keep it shiny side up everyone.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Roger!
@paulasturi41994 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew everything and yet I keep learning something new by watching your videos. Thanks, Kevin!
@49Roadmaster4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this fantastic easy to watch, well explained video. This is EXACTLY what I was trying to explain to my girlfriend yesterday. We were driving in the car yesterday and a raked out H-D pulled across our lane to go into a parking lot a safe ways up, but he had BOTH his legs were already sticking straight out parallel to the road. I was trying to explain to my girlfriend 1) how bad it looks, 2) how inherently unstable it is since it was a real windy gusting day (with dust kicking up everywhere), 3) how unsafe it is as he had no rear braking capability, 4) the bike would not be displaying brake lights to his upcoming traffic, 5) does not look cool, 6) shows that he has limited skills, 7) he is entering a parking lot and the risk of emergency braking will be increasing, etc... Keep it up! (Both your channel and the bike!)
@got_to_roll4 жыл бұрын
Weird. I've watched every video you've made and I practice what I've learned from you. This IS how I stop. Practice, practice again and have consistent good results. Thank you Kevin for making us better riders if we simply heed your advice, find an empty lot and practice! See you on the road~
@ariagrippasboulevards89902 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%, that's exactly what I do. Left foot down, right on the rear brake. It gives me better control while stopping and when uphill. Except when it's super windy, then I put both down.
@raptor747-84 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I must be the most uncoolest rider out there. I’ve been using 100% front brake to come to a stop with legs flapping around everywhere. Tomorrow is a new day and when I’ll start using the correct method. Thanks again.
@frostfox12083 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you. I got my permit yesterday and I am learning a lot from your videos.
@addisonwilliamsjr44504 жыл бұрын
Today is a beautiful crisp day. I am heading out now to practice this. Thanks again, Kevin.
@scottgorman71664 жыл бұрын
Practice, practice, practice....I been riding since way back and everytime I watch your videos its....listen up fella and rethink your riding technique. Always good advice from you Kevin. If you think about the first example a big bike thats off balance will go over SO easy. Tough to man handle a 900lb HOG, four legs or two wheels! Thanks again
@karenshoucairmcgray49024 жыл бұрын
Scott Gorman You just let her go over at that point, pick her up, and get back on. As you said Practice, Practice Practice.
@jrarizonapatriot75704 жыл бұрын
Another great share. Thanks for helping to keep us all safer, now if we could get distracted phone users to watch for motorcycles. 🙏❤
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting the channel!
@razzrasmussen57734 жыл бұрын
I agree with your video. These are techniques I practice myself. Thanks for doing your part to keep us all safe.
@plumbusman4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree... the crispness of a stop, not big "skill"... but if you do this, and consider all that's going on to do it properly, you have better setup for more emergency situations (i.e. properly downshifting to match your speed, while slowing down, to have proper evasive re-acceleration). One bad habit on something "simple" like coming to a stop may prevent a good habit that keeps you out of harm's way. So many things going on (2 hands, 2 feet) that even coming to a stop is a key skill and practice.
@shannabellingham9457 Жыл бұрын
I'm a new rider and this is the best video I've seen about braking
@donmoore4814 жыл бұрын
Up north in the pacific northwest stopping using the front brake only has the extra thrill of slick white stop lines. The front wheel slides, you loose control, and the front of the motorcycle slides out from under you.
@ronbatt7564 жыл бұрын
Kevin describes this ideal stopping method perfectly. I add one small detail. At the last moment before stopping, I gently push the left handle grip forward very slightly. This ensures the bike will lean to the left slightly upon full stop. This gives confidence that the right foot will not be needed to support a right side lean. Works great for me.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
I have heard other people say they do that...I need to try it...see and old dog can learn new tricks. ;)
@Mike-cx2xs4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another explanation. My bike is 600 lbs, dropped it several times. I never get tired of this subject.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@charliefulmer10884 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this most of the time but now I will do it all the time. Thanks for all you do to help us be better and safer riders.
@johnmortison57634 жыл бұрын
I try to always use the "best" technique, but sometimes after stopping at a stoplight, I like to put both feet down and stand up in place to give my butt a short break.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
No harm in that...I do it too sometimes.
@wobblysauce4 жыл бұрын
indeed, Bad in this example is also Bad as it is not flat-footed but tippy-toe, tho nice to stretch the legs.
@stevetreitel74434 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, Been ridin' for 40 years and started way back in the dirt. Just a small additional thought: Keeping your foot on the rear brake pedal keeps the brake light on for additional conspicuity from the rear. Just my .01 cents (Used to be .02 cents but with inflation it's worth less) :):):)
@dalevoigt86124 жыл бұрын
One online motorcycle coach that I was listening to, said that using only the front brakes at a stop, and easing up on them so that you eliminate the suspension bounce as you stop, helps with front brake awareness used in trail braking. You can do this with both feet on the pegs and transition to your rear brake after the stop; to hold your bike if stopped on an incline. Warning if you are a new rider and look down while stopping with too much front brake, you are likely to drop your bike.
@AFColors474 жыл бұрын
Hey there neighbor! This is great, I can’t tell you how happy I am to have stumbled across this channel!! I’m new to riding and taking the MSF course at the end of the month, super excited. Keep up the awesomeness! 😎
@pablod68724 жыл бұрын
Using the rear brake only for the last few feet of the stop makes things so much smoother. A lot of time, if I'm doing a quick "touch and go" stop, I don't even need to put my foot down. Just keep the clutch slightly in the friction zone and the bike will balance long enough to make a complete stop without tipping over.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Yep, good point...stop and go...feet stay up.
@DrTHC4 жыл бұрын
Vital info! I'll watch this one several times, for sure... And practice, too. I've been at 'better' for awhile, with panic relapses to the front brake only... Dropped the bike while practicing in a parking lot once because of it. Since then I've been much better about using both brakes. I did notice how much more stable it seemed, but your explanation helped me understand why it was more stable. I feel much smoother and graceful when I'm stopping now.
@gansukh2008ify4 жыл бұрын
I practiced this for 40 mins straight, wow! what a difference. I need lot more practice... Thank you
@Giitzerland Жыл бұрын
One of the easiest bikes I've owned as far as braking goes, believe it or not, was my Honda VTX1800, it was a monster yes, and 800 pound torque beat, but it had Honda's LBS "Linked Braking System, where using the rear brakes would engage the middle piston on the front 3 piston caliper's(on each side, dual front disk). Perfect, confident stops, every time!
@jyack98174 жыл бұрын
My BMW RT has integrated brakes meaning using the front brakes also activates the rear.
@riorica14 жыл бұрын
This is true. There's advantages to integrated braking systems, but also disadvantages as well. The advantage is that despite bad braking technique (the guy who thinks that rear brakes are the safest option because one wouldn't want to lock up the front wheel), the motorcycle will not allow the pilot to lock up the rear due to bad braking techniques. The disadvantages have to do with the scenarios where using one brake vs the other is more appropriate - such as dragging the rear brake for low speed handling, off road, utilizing engine braking in the rear with front brakes only, being able to modulate brake control through a corner to either maximize traction to the front or slip the rear a little. All of those are acquired skills, and the engineers thought that it would be a safe option to minimize the risk of improperly using one brake vs the other, despite the disadvantages. I definitely think that they're right when it comes to certain riders, but not all riders. Some people love it, some people hate it, but you are correct that Kevin's advice is pretty limited. Feet on the pegs keep a rider much more connected to the bike and its balance, however. So, even a pilot on a bike with integrated brakes should keep feet on the pegs as long as possible and only put one down at a stop if possible. Having one foot on the peg allows a rider to take off quickly and safely due to that body/bike balance connection being there. There's definitely more reasons to justify the practice beyond braking reasons. In Scandinavia they teach motorbike pilots to keep the left foot on the peg and only put the right down. They do it only for the body/bike connection and disregard the braking advantages of using the other foot down first. This practice started many years before modern braking systems - so it's quite outdated. I don't know if you have ever ridden a bike with drum brakes in the front, but they definitely do not have anywhere near the power of modern double rotor systems on the front. I sometimes have the opportunity to ride those old bikes, and they're kinda sketchy lol. I hope myself to a stop 😆. The definitely didn't need ABS because it would take a vice to close hard enough on the levers to lock up the wheels. Anywho, I'm not sure if you had a question or not, but I thought I would chime in. Hope you don't mind!
@bigfella4594 жыл бұрын
Yes I had a BMW 1200 which also had integrated brakes and I was riding for quite a few years and I got into the bad habit of using the front brake when stopping and never had a problem for the reason you said when you apply the front brake the rear brake automatically also applies and your stop is usually nice and smooth for that reason. I downgraded to a 650 and to my great embarrassment I fell a couple of times at low speed stops. the bike literally bucked me. I worked up the courage to finally ask an instructor I know and explained to him what was happening and he said the exact same thing that Kevin just said and since then no problem what so ever. Been riding for 40 years and still learnt something new 😃 The BMW is such a balanced bike that there was no need to put your feet down until the bike stopped
@davidallemang12414 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken the brake integration trails off as you go slower. For slow speed maneuvers it's critical that you are able to use the rear brake independently.
@keithiddenden17143 ай бұрын
Hi what a good video I’m a new rider and I find myself putting both legs down ! I will be going to big car park now to practice the left foot down procedure many thanks and ride safely 😊
@josea59494 жыл бұрын
Excellent topic and I agree with you for the braking method. If you have a passenger the Improper way of stopping is even more pronounced. So riders, follow this suggestion!
@vinny69354 жыл бұрын
On my supersport, the rear brake's stopping power is absolutely terrible compared to the front, so when I ride it I use the best method except that I continue to use the front brake all the way to the end of the stop. Thanks for sharing the video!
@joerader65323 жыл бұрын
I don’t use my front brake unless I am hard braking. IMO that’s why people panic brake and wreck. I drop anchor at stops sometimes a little early and use only the front but that’s almost only when I use them. Great video.
@123hotdog1114 жыл бұрын
Great videos. These videos are perfect. Thank you so much. I have rode since I was 5 years old but have been away from two wheels for 10 years. I now realize I never really knew how to ride a motorcycle. All my life, I just got by.
@wallywalroo72964 жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent, you cover the basics in an intelligible and comprehensive way. Many of these techniques I learned in my basic rider course but you expand upon them which sort of helps a person to connect the dots so to speak. now that I have a few years and thousands of miles under my belt I find that having drilled in to habit many of these fundamental techniques I am a much safer rider for it. Keep up the good work sir✊🏻
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@wildberj4 жыл бұрын
BTW I was taught to keep motorcycle in first gear at the stop with clutch pulled in. This is in case you need to get out of the way if a car behind you isn't going to stop, and you are ready to go instead of fumbling for first gear or stalling out because you didn't put it in first gear. Where upon the car behind you will proceed to run into the back of your motorcycle. Thank you Kevin.
@vincenttarling59024 жыл бұрын
Hi I use the best stopping technique all the time, I also find that when two up, the weight transfer is better as the bike will not dive so much, it instils confidence in you with a better feel to the bike when stopping, got it spot on Kev. Regards Vince (uk rider)
@zonktified12474 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, thanks for your videos and sharing your techniques. I've always used both brakes when coming to a stop, but never transitioned to only the rear when approaching the final few feet of the stop, so I'll try to build that habit as it does look like it helps with weight transfer, especially when wrestling a HD Road Glide.
@MCrider4 жыл бұрын
Give it a try and see what you think.
@kierandoherty88154 жыл бұрын
That's the way I was shown by my instructor in Ireland and it's the method I've always used. great advice, keep the videos coming
@richardjeffery14734 жыл бұрын
I would add to keep close watch on mirrors and be prepared for a swift take off until any following car is either stopped behind you or any approaching vehicle is obviously aware of you . Applying releasing brake may also be useful to be more visible to approaching vehicle
@buckrogers74984 жыл бұрын
My favorite stop is coming to a complete stop with both feet on the boards. The weight transfers back neutral and then casually lowering a foot down. It requires good balance and focus far ahead. It also helps having a low center of gravity bike. :D
@jkunz274 жыл бұрын
Great video! Also, using the rear brake to hold the motorcycle in place allows you full control over the throttle when pulling away.
@anthonyscott163 жыл бұрын
I've been braking exactly like this ever since I first watch this video. Thanks Kevin!
@darylcopp90134 жыл бұрын
I always try to use the Best option when riding along. In the spring in the northeast, we deal with a lot of gravel in intersections. The Better technique tends to be the best while holding 1200lbs of bike and passenger up while standing on marbles. Nothing like the slow motion terror of feeling your left foot slowing slipping away from a stopped and loaded bike.
@karenshoucairmcgray49024 жыл бұрын
I know........It’s that dag nabbit! moment, and wishing I was a little bit taller, but it could be worse.
@markaloia50733 жыл бұрын
I find it also good to have the foot on the rear brake to show the traffic behind you that you are a stopped vehicle via the brake light.
@wadeblake34513 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Little changes can make for big improvements. Thanks Kevin.
@cujoedaman Жыл бұрын
I've been able to train myself up to the "better" braking, but I've found myself doing a mix of "better"/"best" in that I still use both brakes to stop, I'm applying more brake to the rear. I don't feel like I'm going to fly off the front, so I was on the right track. I'll have to work on training myself to let up the front brake and see how that works for me :D
@joeskilton74934 жыл бұрын
Had a few dodgy stops in the past, normally when looking for traffic. Going to try this and see how it goes
@steveeverett80014 жыл бұрын
One other tip to putting your left foot down only is as the bike comes to a complete stop is to turn the handle bars slightly to the right witch automatically leans the bike to your left side
@MrCommuterUG2562 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I usually get challenged whenever I arrive at the red traffic lights first, which safe position should occupy at the red traffic lights.
@sparkatron93344 жыл бұрын
It also depends on how long you think you're going to be stopped for. Short stop use and cover rear brake staying in gear. On a longer stop sat in traffic I shift into neutral, so then I use rear brake and swap legs or I may lay off the rear brake just as i stop. On an incline I always use rear brake. If you're coming to a stop aim to do the heavy braking as though you're going to stop about 4 feet before where you actually want, but then a second before slowly ease off brakes more and more up to you're stopping point. This lets you're front suspension unload before you stop so you don't get the forks bouncing up.
@davidallen12134 жыл бұрын
Good advice as usual.....and I love the drone shots!
@InFireTruk4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin....I always want to look cool also, but I strive to achieve the best techniques as possible. I'm a work in progress!! Stay Safe!
@ballahp4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Will practice as part of my improving knowledge
@DA-pn4rz4 жыл бұрын
I do the best stop, this is how the IAM teaches it. But on a long wait I like to shift into neutral which makes for a bit more shuffling between left and right leg.
@pietropezz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson. I was having problems stopping.
@STEVOHM4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR WISDOM AND OPINIONS
@accordiondr4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about this Kevin...For the 2018 Goldwing DCT Tour.. coming down from let's say 50mph to a stop light I might first paddle shift drop down a couple gears to 3rd gear...id be on both brakes then only the rear to finish Except for the "finish line" which would include the addition of the front brake and left foot down usually followed by the right foot...cause that's some BIG BIKE....would appreciate your thoughts.
@ultraclassic01hd4 жыл бұрын
I solved the problem that makes you a super star when coming to a stop.....I bought a Tri-Glide! Great video!
@antonypilepich89474 жыл бұрын
I do use all three, from time to time, conditions dependent. surface, cross slope, cross wind, carrying pillion (load), and something else which i do need to modify , is my visor only has a finger lift on the left side. so visor lift at stop has to be done with left hand. or reach across my vision with right hand. but i will fix that cos getting a left hand free (need neutral) is a hassle and potentially dangerous.
@johnnylightning14914 жыл бұрын
Being someone who has used the "better" techniques for years (OK, decades) I think that the advantage of using the same technique all of the time has the advantage of forming muscle memory and consistency. It think these may outweigh the slight advantage of the "best" technique. Having said that, I also ride a HD Ultra that gets top heavy very quickly is it get just a little off balance. As for making quick maneuvers right after a stop, I would simply go down the road a ways if I needed to turn around. Just my thoughts.
@stratsurvivor4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Kevin. Best works for me, but two up, windy, etc I well go out rigger, once stopped. Depends on situation... Be safe!
@estogaza12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It really helps. But keep in mind when using automatic motorcycle, all brake levers are on the handle bar. Thus, this technique need to be adjusted acordingly.
@mildyproductive97264 жыл бұрын
I get why many people prefer to end a regular stop by using the rear brake. It results in less front fork compression and rebound at the end. This creates the "jarring effect" which is uncomfortable, and if caught by surprise maybe even lead you to drop the bike. But next time you're in your cage, pay close attention to your braking foot when you come to a moderately hard stop at a light. At the end of the stop, you reduce/release the brake pedal, so that instead of the car jerking backwards at the end when the suspension unloads, you allow the wheels to slide forward that couple inches. This eliminates the jerk-back. Every driver does this, but after the first couple months of learning, it becomes completely automatic and unconscious. Many of us have forgotten that we do this, at all. And unless you're teaching your kid how to drive, you might never get a reminder of how important this is. It's true, there's less fork compression ending the stop with the rear. But the main reason it's smoother to you is because your foot is already trained to let off at the end of the stop. You learned this from braking in a car. Your fingers aren't trained to do this, yet. But you can learn it using the front brake, only, to end your stops. You let off the brake pressure at the very end, and the wheels slide forward rather than the bike jerking back. Bike is perfectly stable. This will become completely automatic and subconscious, just like what we do in the cage. One minor issue with dragging and using the rear for all your stopping needs is this squares off your rear tire. When accelerating, your rear patch gets larger, and you suffer less wear that is more spread out. When braking with your rear tire, the rear patch gets smaller. And you erase the apex off your tire and end up having to change your rear tire 2 or 3x as often as the front.