How to breed Black Tiger Grizzle Pigeons

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

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[@richardbejarano9073]

Hey Adam I have a pair of whites and eventime they have babies one comes out tiger and the other chick always comes out red or yellows tailed that as they mature after 3 molts they start getting more red or yellow does that mean there grandparents Cary that color also my tiger grizzles are born completely white and get the complete tiger color by 2nd molt

[@lovehobin3585]

I am a person who raises lace pigeons in Korea.I'm always interested in your project.I'm also going to breed Tiger Grizzles this time. I support your project.Thank you for translating into Korean. It's very helpful. I'll tell you again next time.

[@alexbreeze4978]

What are the genetics of lace pigeons and what do they look like

[@Andreh.T]

My appreciation having you on KZbin Mr. Adam.

[@rkidlat]

That excellent teaching is worth a sub!

[@PrestigeLoft]

Bro, your channel is the bomb

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

thanks!

[@ampm2853]

Agreed

[@rkidlat]

Excellent teaching brother!

[@علینادری-ل5ت]

Thanks for you تشکر از برنامه های زیبای شما تشکر از زیر نویس فارسی خیلی عالی

[@gabriellatamasi9360]

Dude your a genius have seen some of your vids and can't belive how you know all this.well done

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thank you! I just do a lot of research...

[@gabriellatamasi9360]

@@AdamArcherPigeons nice.thats alot of research where abouts do you live in Australia I live in sydney

[@michealisrael1326]

That black bird look’s amazing

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Yes, he's been very popular since I've started including him in videos! He's actually the father of the brown hen you can see in some of my other recent videos.

[@muktiaktar8175]

Take love from Bangladesh ❤️

[@xxll6302]

Best wishes channel onwer MR adam archer pigeons dont stop

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thank you!

[@pigeonhouse44]

I am from India and we have a trend of competetions of mostly high flying pigeons and their flying time is counted as a result

[@georgegatti1]

That’s an awesome bird.

[@amyesworldcatherinesminime7945]

Another clear and easy to understand video - thanks

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks 😀Glad it was helpful!

[@sasifexcelsolutions4509]

The next video you mentioned at the end of the video, thanks Adam

[@cnergyloft528]

Nice videos. Keep it up. Thanks for taking the time to share your hobby.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Always happy to help promote pigeon breeding and help my pigeon mates out 👍

[@copyworld8596]

Thanks for video bro.

[@vishnusj8649]

I was about to ask you about.. Pied genes in grizzles.... But u clearly mentioned it... Thanks for this detailed video...

[@vishnusj8649]

One small doubt is.... The possibility of. Two black birds producing blue offspring...

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks, yes pied is common in some tigers, but for some people that is what they want, it's an easy way to get a little extra white in them.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Two heterozygous spreads will both be black but produce 25% blue offspring.

[@vishnusj8649]

@@AdamArcherPigeons thanks man.. Hope ur videos reach far and wide.... ✌️👍❤️

[@bethesdavideochannel6243]

Awesome Adam Beautiful and clear brief of getting a tiger grizzle Thanks for the video. God bless you and your pigeons Kripal India

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks 👍

[@AroundMeVillage]

Beautiful pigeons videos

[@racingpigeonchannel9119]

Beautiful PIGEON brother

[@lovehobin3585]

I am a subscriber watching in Korea. I want to know more about Tiger Grizzle. If you like it, please do a more detailed video. I will always support you.

[@corleone4106]

Thanks for the info bro!

[@sasifexcelsolutions4509]

Thanks Adam's, Finally, the long awaited arrived. So we dont pair two black tigers to breed tigers, that is why my two black tigers is breeding whiter tigers, so if I take that whiter tiger with a black it will breed black tigers again.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Yes, correct

[@josephsebastian8380]

Please upload more color mixing piegons tips

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Will do, what colour would you like to see next?

[@racingpigeonchannel9119]

Beautiful PIGEON

[@yugslofttv4099]

I love Grizzles

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Yea they're very popular!

[@yugslofttv4099]

@@AdamArcherPigeons sir I hug your channel and hug me back thank you 😊keepsafe

[@ampm2853]

I have racing blues and light checker and I need different colors from non racing pigeons in my racing loft is it possible and how do I achieve that and thank you so much for so informative videos I look up to you.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks, yes I am planning a video on how to move colours into a different breed.

[@ampm2853]

@@AdamArcherPigeons eagerly waiting

[@kimdra9321]

WoooooW very nice amigo

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

I'm glad you liked it!

[@svhracingpigeontv6964]

Nice tips

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks

[@jessieguadalquiver8684]

Very nice pigeon

[@darrellbennett1235]

Do you have any faded homers, or do you have any experience with faded?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

No, the only St allele I currently keep is Stipper

[@bravinjacobs2570]

Hi Adam love your videos. Really interesting topics. I just got my first tiger grizzle today. 5 weeks old and still completely black hoping the white comes in after the moult

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Nice, yea sometimes they're quite dark in nest feather but if it is a tiger the white will moult in.

[@GuardianAngel..]

Did someone say Grizzle, I love Grizzles.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

They're a very popular colour!

[@myclips55]

@@AdamArcherPigeons I bought a pair of tiger grizzle from my friend for really cheap and they are soo good looking

[@rightinfotv977]

Good job sir 👍💝

[@michaelbrandon1634]

Hi this is my Brandon now just curious how do you make yellows how do you do that

[@kendrinkwater6049]

Black Tigers are very Beautiful Birds.l used to have pigeons but lm 65 now and don't have the means. Totally love pigeons but now there's so many different kinds.Pigeons have been around longer than we have l think

[@ross_spirou_photography]

Thanks Adam!

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

No worries, I hope people find it helpful!

[@thetruth00]

One of these visits me every day and I give it seed. The other day it brought with it what looked like a baby. Was mostly black. Why is there only one? Is it an escaped domestic pegion? Are they not common in the wild? I can't find much information. I love this bird so much. I'm in Melb BTW.

[@racingpigeonchannel9119]

Wonderful color

[@fatherandsonlofttv]

thanks for the info i love it!

[@rheiymanaog3550]

how to breed opal or rare color of pigeon??

[@haroonhidayat]

i had a blue bar and a highflyer pair ... they produced 2 babies a black and a silver+black... on molting one became full black with white on head and the 2nd became a grizzle but a bit more white then black...

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

What colour was the highflyer?

[@haroonhidayat]

@@AdamArcherPigeons i ll send u a pic of him

[@Eugen_Tauben]

Nice Pigrons ❤👍👍👍

[@parasadhikarivlogsondailyl1002]

Awesome video brother ! Love from #Nepal

[@PigeonsRoy]

Very nice 👍

[@pilotmike7569]

Sounds pretty exciting and not too difficult!😀 What's the English name for the pigeon breed that the pigeon to the left of the tiger grizzle in your cell represents? If I'm correct, in Polish we call the breed "karier" - sounds similar to "carrier"... Is this coinsidence?☺

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

He is actually a racing homer! He does have the big wattle typical of a Carrier or Dragoon, but that's fairly normal for his family actually. He is from a very old bloodline, most modern racers don't grow wattles that big anymore.

[@pilotmike7569]

@@AdamArcherPigeons He is really beautiful, thank you!😀🐦

[@ilonggoconnectionnv]

yellow checker (checkered) next pls thanks!

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

I actually already have a pair ready to breed in the yellow project, I'll bring them out when I have a spare box

[@carlossalinas7061]

You are a badass bro!!!

[@pilapilap]

Good my friend 👍👍🌹🌹🌹

[@aboadeela6130]

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[@kerrycourtney6314]

Very interesting thank you Adam

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks, I hope it was helpful!

[@kerrycourtney6314]

@@AdamArcherPigeons yes very much so . I had red recessive muelemans and yellow Trenton lines but had to get rid of them due to my illness

[@juliosdiy3206]

I was using a pied black check, now i know why thy didnt work, i will use my blach t check to see if the results change.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

It will only work if you're pairing them to tiger grizzles, remember.

[@juliosdiy3206]

@@AdamArcherPigeons yes the hen is a tiger g.

[@Attaningimpossible]

Nice birds

[@badshahaonkashoq8809]

Wow so nice 😍

[@Eire-td5ml]

Hi I have a male tiger grizzly like the hen in ur video the hen is a tiger grizzly mostly white and they are producing mostly white how can I get them black instead of all white

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Don't pair them together. Pair them to blacks or blues.

[@Eire-td5ml]

@@AdamArcherPigeons thanks I’m getting 2 blacks hen and a cock hope it works

[@khyata3alamsouad]

ماشاءالله تبارك الله عليك

[@Pombal777]

Thank you Adam 👍 Like

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

No problem 👍

[@Kuya_Erwin]

Is there's any way to make a classic grizzle? I only have black and white colors of Barb and the problem is, we dont have yet a barb with a classic grizzle color here in the philipines.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

No. Your only option is to find a similar grizzle and cross it in. You can use the same instructions I wrote here, but swap Indigo for grizzle, and Lahore for Barb. www.pigeongenetics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=847#p847

[@Kuya_Erwin]

@@AdamArcherPigeons Thanks for replyin sir Adam! Really appreciate your help with pigeon industry. Keep it up!

[@Kuya_Erwin]

@@AdamArcherPigeons Sir last question, what pigeon breed do you think is nearest body shape with English Barb?

[@peakyblinders380]

Please make a video on andulasion please 🙏

[@overdoseongoodvibes575]

I've breed my grizzle x black pigeon out of that breeding I got a blue bar and a tiger grizzle baby

[@alanmeek5234]

What would the offspring of sibarian high flyer and white homer

[@birdnird]

I ended up getting a black tiger grizzle by accident when a mutt with a stork pattern grizzle racer mother mated with a black Nun pigeon. The “stork” (homozygous) grizzle was apparently hiding the tiger grizzle in the almost pure-white mother. Now I know how that guy got such a weird pattern, and why he doesn’t look anything like his Nun mother. Though our Tiger grizzle was pretty spotty as a nestling; he was about 40% black and 60% white. He has gained white as he’s grown and is down to about 15% black. Yes I’m sure there’s pied in there

[@ScarletCandlelight]

So a black tiger grizzle bred to another black tiger grizzle Would give me a more white offspring?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Yes, some of the young will be homozygous tigers, which are fairly white.

[@ScarletCandlelight]

@@AdamArcherPigeons alright thank you

[@santhiraju9022]

In abou video you show in last black pigeon I have that pigeon ,but how to modify this colour to tiger grizzlies please reply sir,,,,,,,

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

You need to get a tiger grizzle. You cannot create it, it is a gene, you need to find a tiger grizzle pigeon to breed with your birds.

[@santhiraju9022]

Your from....? Am from India Andra Pradesh

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Australia

[@kalapatijtv9881]

nice tip. sir👍

[@kslofttoronto3055]

Hi Adam. How do you breed a black pigeon with white flights with no other white markings? It is as simple as breeding a black pigeon to a pigeon with pied gene? like a blue bar with a white flights?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

There are lots of different pied genes, but yes, that would be the best starting point

[@rafaelfonseca9435]

Brother i have one male i put him with 2 hens. And after 5 attempts he never fill the eggs the tiger grizzle only is 2 years old what can i do to make him fill the eggs??

[@shabin7079]

Is there any video of breeding this type pigeon

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

This one

[@shabin7079]

How many times we want to mate to get this type of grizzle

[@khael2581]

بالتوفيق و النجاح 👍✔

[@kodiekingcomedy8258]

I have one of them liki it

[@KalapatiKomedy]

How do you identify if it carries the dominant gene to pass on?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

If a bird has any dominant gene it will be expressing it. That's why it's called dominant.

[@gregorymcfarland9018]

thank you

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

No worries 👍

[@whitehouseloft5205]

I have been waiting for this video for a long time. Thank you for sharing it. Please do an update once they are paired together and produce babies. I am going to take my tiger grizzle cock and put him with a black hen and see what they produce. Fingers crossed I will get more tiger grizzles.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thanks, I will. You should get at least 50% tigered young from your tiger grizzle, so you won't need too much luck 🙂

[@whitehouseloft5205]

Adam Archer Pigeons thanks again I appreciate your help by posting this video.

[@josepuerta2302]

Hola, donde vives? Como podría comprar unas parejas de esa?

[@breederslofttv5988]

I want to breed beautiful tiger grizzle. Tnx sir Adam . Small fancier from Philippines

[@الحمامالزاجلفيماليزيا]

Sir I have a question.. can we incubated racing homer eggs under different pigeons?

[@mamasplayinhookie3131]

Yes

[@faisal1979m]

You can incubate expensive fancy pigeon eggs to a cheap vanilla pigeon

[@jaysonguevarra3169]

Finally😍

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Yep, here it is!

[@ShabbirAhmed-ki8ev]

Nice 👍

[@haiderzaman9893]

The black pigeon is so beautiful 😍 what is the breed name of black pigeon?? pleaseeee reply me

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Homing pigeon

[@michaelher940]

Breed white bars or white checks next!

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Ahhhh! That means I have to get even MORE pigeons, I don't actually have dominant opals in my loft at the moment! 😅😅

[@michaelher940]

What’s wrong with getting more pigeons? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 It sounds like a dream to have more! 😂

[@markjosephmendoza1797]

Hi friend! May I ask if I'm going to breed my red tiger grizzle to my pure black Hen is it possible to lay a black tiger grizzle??? Thank you friend🙂

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eImvo6x7l859m9E Are you sure your red is a tiger?

[@francisd.hilario1481]

Do you have any information on chocolate bar?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Do you mean indigo? Yes, I am working in a video about indigo. It'll be out within a month.

[@abcloft302]

How about a all white mix with a all black?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

You might produce a black pied, but no, it will not be a true tiger grizzle.

[@fernandoramos5423]

Do a video on white bars

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

In the future, yes.

[@pigeonlike]

Very interesting, I never heard of tiger grizzle. I bred 100s of grizzled but no tigers that I know of. I bred a black where all the babies were black no matter what colour. The factor dominated over every other pattern. I even had pure whites but you never know what you get from them. From what I heard there is no white gene. Question after a long breeding season I saw some very odd colours come out of birds the only bred checkers and reds. Even sometimes crests would come out. Why would this be?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Tiger grizzle is a different gene to the regular and more common classic grizzle. Black is caused by a gene called "spread", and as you've learned it is dominant. Your bird must have had two copies of the black gene for all of its young to be black. There are actually a number of white genes, and that it the problem - people mix them so you never know what you'll get when combining different white genes, and you don't know what genetics the white is covering over too. Crest, and quite a lot of the rarer colours are recessive traits. They will pop up when you pair two birds who carry the hidden genes together.

[@pigeonlike]

@@AdamArcherPigeons thanks for your reply, the reason I read some where for the rare colour out of a pair that only bred checkers and reds checks is the dominant genes get "tired" after being bred hard. I only saw it once .

[@huhu8047]

Sorry I'm a newbie. What is spread?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Spread is the gene that changes a blue bar into a black. It is a dominant modifier gene - I'd recommend my genetics series for beginners :)

[@huhu8047]

@@AdamArcherPigeons I watched your colour, patter and modifiers video but was still confused. I have a male tiger grizzle should I breed it with a black hen to keep the tiger grizzle color going?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

@@huhu8047 A black is fine to use, yes, or a blue :)

[@huhu8047]

​@AdamArcherPigeons how do you breed red tiger grizzle?

[@johnbyers4036]

Add like to see indigo or reduced red or barless

[@tvmedia-]

bon travail ✔👍

[@sasifexcelsolutions4509]

Hi Adam, what is meant by "A pigeon not expressing the gene cannot pass it to the offspring, even if he is from tiger grizzle parents"

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

If a pigeon is not visually a tiger, then he does not have the gene, so cannot pass it on. If a bird has the tiger gene, he will visually be a tiger (barring any epistasis, but it's unlikely you'll run into those problems in a tiger breeding project).

[@sasifexcelsolutions4509]

@@AdamArcherPigeons thanks

[@MKloftOman]

If i cant find a tiger grizzle gene bird, how can i breed a tiger grizzle??

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

You can't.

[@imransyam8581]

If i mate white pigeon to a black pigeon .. is there any possibility i shall get a tiger grizzle ?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Typically, no. Unless your white is masking tiger grizzle, which is unlikely.

[@death5913]

Man I used to have that It was loyal I haven't feed it in a week and become So slim Then I feed him last time and Send him to the rice fields ahh good memories

[@muhammedsinan9596]

is it good to breed an almond gene with tiger grizle gene? pls rply

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Not really. Will not produce good colour.

[@Yaseen_DT]

How do 8 breed it if I need a black tiger grizle

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

You cannot breed it without the tiger grizzle gene.

[@guvercinbalikesir1133]

süper video...

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Thank you

[@ramsanjay7998]

Bro how many times in a year pigeon produces eggs?

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Maybe 6 rounds of eggs, if breeding all year round.

[@teddysniper5573]

10 rounds

[@sugengriyadi-]

Amazing

[@BDfarms70]

Nice

[@bestqualitybirds]

Hi Adam, I am from pakistan , I really like black tiger grizal, can you tell me how much the price of a pair would be?