How to Build a Curbless Shower (Part 1: VIM Shower Pan Install) -- by Home Repair Tutor

[@Samota0]

My father's a carpenter and I've been at a realty company that puts little time towards ensuring a products comes out properly. It's refreshing to see all the plotting and stages of work here. I actually like to use the screw method to hold things myself.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Thank you, our philosophy is to explore all different options and do the best to install them properly. VIM has a solid product, the prep is very important

[@markprice46]

I wished I’d would have used a nailer the screws kept sucking the 2xs out of level. Probably was doing it wrong.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Sorry to hear that, always feel free to contact us if you have questions

[@lordelectrichv2411]

@@HomeRepairTutor Hi Baba booey

[@Michael-ib5tu]

I bought a 60" X 42" TileRedi shower-pan with a linear drain that's on a short end on the long end is the CURB (I should have kept my mouth shut) but I had to brag to my little princess! Now she's decided that I want a curbless walk-in shower! Now I'm hoping you would be so kind as to assist me in this endeavor? By the way I have several subscriptions to different u-tub channels, but I was so impressed by your vidios that lm going to purchase a 65" LG TV.

[@BradTefft]

Fantastic DIY video. Thanks for the detail and fast-forwarding through the actual work when the detail was unnecessary. Steve makes it look very easy too.

[@utsports]

This Plumber is doing a very good quality job,he knows what he is doing

[@HomeRepairTutor]

thank you 🙏🏻

[@teh60]

The VIM system looks like a good quality shower pan. I like the way Steve reinforced the floor and how the shower pan is screwed down and thinseted around the perimeter and drain. Very well supported.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Yes, the VIM pan isn't going anywhere...unless the house shifts. Once the pan and bathroom floor are waterproofed this system is super solid, looks very much like a swimming pool

[@DebbieSabin]

​@@HomeRepairTutor Are you near st louis , I need this done for my husband. help is needed. could you mention cost? please

[@loopforwhile]

"Slope the floor dahn to the drain" Great tutorial Haha!! Cheers from Pittsburgh!!

[@dandeangeli9860]

Very timely video as we are doing this for the first time. Eager to see how you will be waterproofing the bathroom as well.....thanks HRT

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Thanks Dan, we’ll hopefully have that video ready in a week. Are you doing your project sooner than that?

[@zagorsky1769]

Hello from Russia, very interesting channel!! Good luck!

[@sixstring215]

you guys rock. I think I may go curbless with our small shower after seeing this.

[@retiredperson4054]

Steve do you prefer the VIM system or the Schluter System for a Entry Level Shower Installation?

[@jeanhawken4482]

I love the products that are available in the USA and the quality.

[@MrMistrEnigma]

Excellent...clear and detailed....and a very conscientious craftsman!

[@coleandrews6402]

What’s the smallest dimension bathroom that you think you could fit a curbless shower? I have a half bath id like to add a shower in to. Traditional shower wouldn’t fit but thinking curbless could

[@jeffross6833]

So a case study in why to use Schlueter, respect for the meticulous work but my God is this an involved and labour intensive process. Have you switched to Schlueter yet?

[@ronaldboyd6184]

I want to use use system. I'm gonna lay new ceramic tiles over existing ceramic floor. So would i be bringing this pan up flush to existing floor right.

[@lesliesweeney368]

Is the pan sloped to drain

[@Rocky-xx2zg]

The VIM Shower System is the Best!

[@GilbertRosa-xs6zl]

Who sells this product shower paste? Shower pen who sells them

[@GilbertRosa-xs6zl]

2:53 2:54

[@josecampos1317]

Hello nice video. I like to know where order the shower pan

[@GroovyMisfit]

What knee pads are you using. I need something better to protect my knees.

[@sabrinagriffin3211]

Would realy like to do a curbless waterproof bathroom like this but can i build my own pan with oatley? How would that be done. Does the felt go over the oatley instead of 2 inches of mortor?

[@markprice46]

Wish I had this a year ago! I used the trudeck arc system which is similar. I’m a dyier in Cleveland. The carpenters tips are great. What about the rest of the subfloor being level? Did you use self leveling? That’s the problem I had. I ended up jus t using vinyl for the floor and using a transition strip to the shower pan. I didn’t want to install the tile on a uneven subfloor. The pan I got exactly level. . Not exactly no curb but still pretty good and solid

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Had this floor not been level we would have self-leveled it or adjusted the joists using the sister method, similar to what was done in the shower area.

[@tinkerer8140]

Shouldn't that subfloor be primed before thinnest?

[@dough8484]

How would you go about doing the sub sub floor if your sub flooring is less then 3/4

[@thomasdrouin3643]

The water doesn't migrate out to the bathroom floor?

[@cyclest9300]

Can a Radiant Floor Heating Mat be installed on this pan before laying the tile on it?

[@lolitabonita08]

how do i do the same thing but over concrete slab Thanks

[@candicemels4398]

I just had someone completed my shower room. But it come out different what I wanted . I don't know how discribe it. I am frustrated because what I want curbless walk in shower but it out different.

[@SolarDrew]

Not trying to be negative, but dang I hope the owner addressed the incorrectly installed insulation in the walls! It's like there's nothing there near the studs. If this is an exterior wall, expect condensation in the wall which will lead to mold.

[@terryjames2040]

Installing shower Pan liner

[@bladerunnerNWO]

I like it but question the water proofing system in the next video.

[@davidwm]

Would Kerdi Board be a product you could use in place of the Hydro Ban Board in Ontario Canada when we can't buy this product?

[@drewt.3885]

Great video, great job explaining and thanks for all the links!

[@calivalley9056]

Does this system (pan) require addition supporting, or alternate leveling with engineered joist?

[@ynot6781]

Question Can you simply install the curbless shower pan on top of the existing plywood floor in the shower area , and raise the floor outside the shower area to meet the pan

[@jyotidahal4558]

is this possible to do with a right side drain?

[@larrybell1305]

Great information!!

[@bgzwlz5119]

With a tub to shower conversion I assume that after the tub is removed the old PVC tub drain would have to be moved to the center by a plumber before this pan/system could be used?

[@josiahamaze]

Yes

[@TheMuthaflipa]

This video is fantastic, thank you!

[@businessman5894]

Where do I buy the countersink bit?

[@jfontesrj]

What size of nail did you use on your nail gun?

[@whugheswhughes98144]

Really great vid!

[@LandbergTileTV]

Similar to the truedeck system we installed a few years ago, but the cost of it was crazy!

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Was Truedeck crazy expensive? Or are you referring to VIM? We haven't used the former in anything.

[@LandbergTileTV]

Truedeck pan was crazy expensive! prefab presloped fiberglass pan for over 1k! But, it worked because of the mechanicals underneath the shower so we were unable to lower the subfloor. Great video by the way!

[@edbouhl3100]

Can coved sheet vinyl flooring be used with this system?

[@whugheswhughes98144]

Any idea if this Vim system is still sold? Or where (in the US)?

[@michaelraduazzo6146]

Can you tell me what size nails you used to sister the 2x4's?

[@James-po5ed]

Looks great, bit they only make one size which is kind of ridiculous.

[@internethandle9846]

Why are these kits so astronomical in price? They are 4-5 times the price of a shower pan.

[@wno1043]

Much easier to do a conventional shower floor, I think. This looks like a real pain in the arse. I don't think I'd trust that drain arrangement to not leak.

[@petefisher5686]

I would preassemble the framing around the drain and lay in space 3/4” below joist tops as one unit. Easier to assemble and install.

[@csbarbourv]

Why didn’t you put the backer board on the walls first?

[@caruana133]

Great contractor and is extremely smart. I have to say he’s the messiest worker I’ve ever seen. Lol

[@veroniquet3730]

How do you lower the joists before leveling them?

[@Casmige]

He didn’t. He recessed the additional supporting so that when he cut out the plywood pieces (the inlays) it all matched up to the existing Joyce nice and even....

[@mwlowman]

Great system. I’m going to use it for my DIY. I would like to use the ditra heat floor heating on the entire floor. And just for leveling purposes, the shower too. Any thoughts as where in the process to add the ditra heat? Straight to the sub floor and shower pan? Thanks!!

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Just to clarify, the VIM pan is pitched for proper water drainage, so it shouldn’t be level. That said, if you want to use Ditra-Heat in that shower we recommend contacting VIM.

[@retiredperson4054]

OK I plan on using the VIM curb-less shower system for a new bathroom -- But has anyone used this system in a HOME LAUNDRY AREA ? My laundry area will be build on the second floor and I want to have a protection system in case of a water accident.... Would a VIM shower base work under or near the washer and dryer? IF they are a stacked unit, would the weight of the stacked Washer/Dryer be too much on the VIM materials and ceramic tile? Anyone?? I sent the question to VIM but they never reply?

[@franknycsc]

The beveled edge of the caulkless gasket goes down into the matching beveled PVC cup! Then the square threaded ring gets tightened down to squeeze & expand the rubber against the pipe & cup drain.

[@vicentamartinez]

I need in my bathroom

[@businessman5894]

Where do I buy the vim shower pan

[@HomeRepairTutor]

visit VIM’s website to order, they’ll help you out 👍🏼

[@businessman5894]

@@HomeRepairTutor will it pass code or what is the requirements to install curbless

[@HomeRepairTutor]

@@businessman5894 it should pass but double check your local codes. All Curbless showers require either recessed dimensional lumber or a recess kit so that you can add your 3/4” plywood flush with the joists. From there, add your tray then backer boards and waterproof according to the manufacturer specs

[@juvehe]

Has anyone done a heater floor with this VIM shower pan?

[@chrissimon8403]

Another good vid guys, how new is the vim system? I have not heard of them up here in Canada?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Thank you, they’ve been out for several years. Are you going to install a curbless system?

[@chrissimon8403]

@@HomeRepairTutor I am a contractor and if my next quote is for curbless, I will definitely consider this system. BTW how is the pricing of this system?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

VIM is on par with other systems, slightly better in some respects. Our next video will show how to waterproof the pan and walls. Hydro Ban Board was used for this installation and we really liked it. That also is competitively priced and fast to install

[@JT9685]

@@HomeRepairTutor Can you use the Mapie waterproofinh with the Hydro Ban Board?

[@workinghands1805]

I do tons of showers! 1. How much is the curbles pan kit... ( currently watching video) 2. I dont do any of the plumbing work ( other than the drain) do I need a plumbing license to install shower valves??

[@davidjuarez3718]

Where I can find that shower pan?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

you can buy it directly from VIM 👍🏼

[@wyattcarter6814]

Thinset doesnt bond to wood though?

[@carmaximus7909]

Where is the P Trap, will this pass Building Inspection?

[@chrislnflorida5192]

P Trap is under the floor on the drain....id say

[@MichaelMantion]

i would do so many things differently. Number 1 is I would use Rockwool or no insulation at all.

[@apex007]

Next step he burns down the house because he doesn't like the wood grain pattern on the studs.

[@chapothakid5080]

How come these videos are always on a wood floor? Where the concrete floor videos

[@HomeRepairTutor]

we have several over concrete

[@krehbein]

How much just for the pan?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

the pan comes with all the waterproofing and is roughly $800

[@Stevesbe]

Pocket screw jig

[@fantonio234]

I would understand better if he was using the metric system, and not using freedom numbers. Awesome video tho

[@Casmige]

You don’t dampen the wood before you apply the thin set?.... (Amateurs)

[@XxDonPerryonxX]

I trust any plumber missing the tip of his finger🤷🏾‍♂️ he went all in!

[@johnkauffman1191]

I was thinking about installing it in my RV travel trailer but I think I’ll make my own out of plywood and Self-leveling Epoxy I have a wheel well I have to come off the wall about 7 inches down 4 inches down to the drain And I could do a lot cheaper But I like what you do but for an RV/travel trailer you don’t have much of a choice I want a bigger So I’m getting rid of the sink so all that will be in there is a shower and toilet. But when I do my house again someday I’ll think about it

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

But if water leaks, it will not go in the drain, so, what is the point of this?

[@etile540]

Cutting the factory edges going in towards the drain may be necessary for the tray to fit into your shower floor dimension. The problem I see in doing this is that you create a "smiley face" shaped edge instead of having that nice flat, level edge. Your wall tile cuts at the floor will have to be curved to shape that "smiley face" also. This needs to be remedied

[@dennisfunez6184]

Es muy tardado muy lento y es igual que chawer kigs

[@luisvasquez1104]

Hi you're suppose to put a trap in shower but you guys didn't used?

[@eriksteffen6166]

looks like a basement below, trap possibly down there?

[@joshapplebaum9669]

No water proofing between plywood and pan beater hope no water seems down otherwise your screwed

[@millie111066]

There’s no trap ?

[@marionake5618]

WHY WOULD ANYONE SPEND $ 1000.00 ON THAT FLOOR ??

[@priceandpride]

you need a tech shirt, it looks hot in that bathroom

[@wno1043]

Gee, this looks like it's more trouble than doing it the conventional way with a floated pre-sloped bed of mortar, vinyl liner, then floating the final floor. It's not hard.

[@elifire4147]

5:22

[@jaimesustaita285]

Why cant someone show how it can be done on a concrete slab!!

[@allencarpenter9007]

Because you remove the concrete slab re-pour a recessed slab, than ardex pitch the rest of the way. Thats how you do curdles on concrete.

[@neckbeard7233]

@@allencarpenter9007 wouldnt you slope the slab itself?

[@martiesulak9614]

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[@kellywhitaker3483]

I cringe every time I see him use his THIGH as the support for his circular saw. NOT safe people! A trip to the emergency room is expensive and time consuming.

[@caruana133]

Also no need for the narrator

[@crushsmith7534]

Lol look AT THIS GREAT BIG DRAIN....... connects to 2 inch opening. Nice sales pitch go back to uzed car salesman

[@HomeRepairTutor]

the point wasn't to emphasize the shower draining to a 3" or 4" pipe, it's that the drain cover is larger than typical covers. Plumbing codes require certain size pipes, so most people are constrained by that. As far as the used car salesman, you're implying we somehow deceived people. That's simply not the case, we do our best to explain what we like about different systems. And if you notice, we discuss many shower systems from Schluter, Wedi, KBRS, VIM, etc. Education is important and since we don't make shower systems we try to share all the different ones so people can then decide which is best for them.

[@knight1591]

poor design shower pan

[@jmir1033]

Please, leave out the nonsense info and self seeking entertainment your pushing. This is not what what your viewers are seeking. We can get that from any cheap diy video. If professional then keep it professional…no nonsense and ego. Just the fact.