Curbless Shower Construction: Save $8000 in Eight Minutes

[@MrMurph111]

I did the same thing in my parents house, two curbless showers upstairs and a full basement bathroom with jacuzzi tub and hot sauna attached...used Schluter for all the walls, floors etc. It was like I was watching me again, lol. Well done!!!

[@JaySean777]

Enjoyed the video. Can you show us a curbless pan on a concrete slab. Thank you

[@nlitenurmind]

I just did a similar job for my elderly Aunt using a Castico showerpan. I highly recommend it.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

I’m not familiar with them. How do they work?

[@nlitenurmind]

You order one-piece composite tile pans in various sizes and can also be cut a little with a tile blade. I put down Redgard on the subfloor and used some shims and the thinnset to level out the pan because the subfloor was a little sloped. The pan was 1-1/8" thick but I was able to butt up to the old floor tile and only have a small lip to roll over in a wheelchair.

[@lolitabonita08]

i wish u can do a curbless shower construction over cement slab...from plumbing (hole drain) to the installation of everything else...

[@danielbonner8309]

You can, it just has to be a drop down pan or you have to knock the slab and drain down in the shower. Ive actually never done a walkin on a sub floor.

[@Nebulation]

As in a renovation? It is done often. Slab needs to be cut 2" down, 2 is the number we use.

[@lolitabonita08]

@@danielbonner8309 thank you for your reply, 8 years ago Harvey touched Houston very badly, my home has been in disrepair for that long...senior with very little income i need to learn how to do things myself on an string budget. the "experts" came and destroyed the bathroom (master) i now have a hole with expose pipe that was cut, and that needs to be done...utube shows a lot of videos with wood subflors, but rarely is one or two videos showing the whole process on slab...and the two i found are such a bad videos that no one can understand what is going on...

[@lolitabonita08]

@@Nebulation thank you for your reply, 8 years ago Harvey touched Houston very badly, my home has been in disrepair for that long...senior with very little income i need to learn how to do things myself on an string budget. the "experts" came and destroyed the bathroom (master) i now have a hole with expose pipe that was cut, and that needs to be done...utube shows a lot of videos with wood subflors, but rarely is one or two videos showing the whole process on slab...and the two i found are such a bad videos that no one can understand what is going on...

[@Nebulation]

@@lolitabonita08 ya because its messy and not conducive to camera activity. Look up Stud Pack and Starr Tile. Both have videos recessing slab for showers. Videos you will find will inherently be of basement showers. It’s really simple. It’s just a pain to get through concrete.

[@killiancabrera9697]

Great video! I see that you had the membrane go all the way to the ceiling, do you put mud between the wall to ceiling joint first? Or after? Thanks!

[@aaronsvoboda5897]

Great video!! I really liked how you installed the schluter deco (for the glass door) over the waterproofing. I've seen videos that install it in between the shower pan and the schluter membrane, and I feel like that's worse than using screws cause it creates a much larger area for potential leaks.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Thank you 🙏🏼 ya, I put it on the edge of the tray so that water will hit the glass and go down toward the drain. The KERDI-FIX is to prevent capillary water movement from the shower.

[@alexill]

Great video!

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@AdrianRomeroJr]

beautiful work man learned a ton thanks! any tips on the transition piece from the hallway or whatever is outside the bathroom door into the bathroom since it's now raised by the detra?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Thank you 🙏🏽 yes, what is the flooring outside the bathroom?

[@AdrianRomeroJr]

@@HomeRepairTutor LVP

[@TaylorMyers-e5f]

curious why standard method/practice wouldn't implement waterproofing floor and all base edges and then overlap the Kurty wall covers 2" over the seems of base

[@diegocollazo4078]

Fantastic video

[@HomeRepairTutor]

@@diegocollazo4078 thank you 🙏🏽

[@AidanSkoyles]

Nice job, but I wouldn't recommend that Schluter Deco SG though. In theory it's a great idea, but water will get in that channel (even if you silicone it). Once it's in, it cant get out, so the channel will get gross and gungy and it's impossible to clean. Also well done for doing a traditional drain not a linear drain. Dont get me started on how awful those are to maintain.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

I’m not sure how water gets in the channel though, the glass should occupy most of it. I like that option because there are no screws penetrating the waterproofing. Which is important for any shower but especially the curbless shower. Ya, I’m not a fan of linear drains and think they could be a fad that we all look back on and say “why?”

[@AidanSkoyles]

​@@HomeRepairTutorThe "why" on linear drains is easy -- they look nice. They just dont work well in the long term. As for the Deco SG, I'm just speaking from experience.

[@jonaguado]

@@AidanSkoyleswhat do you recommend in place for the sg deco then ? I’m about to install my frameless shower panel and now you got me all worried 😢

[@AidanSkoyles]

@@jonaguadoi don't know man. I'm just a DIYer so don't have anything to offer. I'm just saying this Deco stuff isn't a perfect solution.

[@supergameaddicted]

@@AidanSkoylesWhat evidence do you have for a linear drain being worse than traditional 2x2 drain? I’ve installed hundreds of them and it seems to me you’re just talking out of your ass.

[@blobbbbbyful]

Great guide! Question as a DIYer, I'm wondering why you placed membrane over the ditra? Isn't ditra already waterproof?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

It is but I recommend extending it 12 inches into the shower and at least that outside the shower. Since I had seams on the DITRA, I determined it would be a good option to just waterproof everything with the KERDI

[@scottross5706]

@@HomeRepairTutor dont you loose the positive benefit of the Ditra, i.e. uncoupling with the trapazoidal shape by covering with the Kirdi?

[@omarsamuels3626]

Awesome

[@BonBon770]

Is the whole dry floor substrate pitched towards the shower?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Only the shower tray is sloped. The main floor is level

[@BonBon770]

@HomeRepairTutor Yeah, that's what I thought you were gonna say. I'm not totally sold on curbless and so are a lot of other people. sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but there's really no long-term results. I don't personally see how the water is going to stay inside of the tray. And then you say well, you waterproof to the dry area. But the water has nowhere to go but to sit mold and dry and simmer. I'm not trying to be negative, just pointing out facts. shower looks great and I'm sure it'll be fine, but I wouldn't recommend Curbless to anybody. Unless it really meets the criteria for a curve of a shower, which is very few showers. Have a good one.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

@@BonBon770 totally understand, that said, I used Spectralock one so that water won’t penetrate under the porcelain tiles. Thus, it has nowhere to go but down the solvent welded drain, no weep holes. So there’s a lot to consider but this one was done in such a way that it exceeded Schluter and TCNA standards

[@BonBon770]

@HomeRepairTutor Yeah, that's awesome that you used a epoxy/epoxy based grout. I was gonna say because that's about the only way that you're gonna stop from what I was saying. so yeah, definitely agree. Unfortunately, lots of people don't use that. And it will be a problem in the future. Especially if you're on a wood sub floor like this job here. In florida we mostly deal with concrete And first floor applications. so we do not waterproof the dry area. Unless it's something like this where it's curbless and has a waterproofing membrane on top. So at least 12 inches out of the shower would be pitched into the shower. Every shower is different. You wouldn't see it because it would be buried in a flat/level tile floor. But the substrate underneath would be Pitched, so when the water does get through the grount joints, it has to go into the shower.

[@racker7855]

you said the tile pattern was customer request. Do you like a diff pattern with that size tile? im in the middle of a bathroom remodel and my kid wants the 12x24 ran vertical.....what is the most common pattern?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

With large format tiles like a 12x24, you’ll eliminate tile lippage or uneven heights with a third offset patter, eg staggering the vertical tiles every 8” - but these tiles were flat. So the 1/2 pattern offset didn’t produce the lippage problem.

[@racker7855]

@@HomeRepairTutor Thanks. I plan to join your online course. Ive just spent so much on this bath that ive not been able...ha...doing the mud work on my new sheetrock now. i have one factory flat joint that is higher on one side due to one stubborn stud that i missed. so trying to decide if i tape then float or float then tape and float again.....but thanks so much for the videos and the comments....you have helped a ton...

[@crabboy01]

Nice clean work. I've waterproofed and entire bathroom floor before by using kerdiband on the Ditra seams and along the walls, why the extra sheet of Kerdi over the Ditra?

[@johnc4686]

How would you suggest waterproofing a upvc window within the shower zone?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

I’d have to see it but a combination of KERDI-BAND, thin-set and KERDI-FIX

[@vm12345]

Why do you embed the DECO-SG with Kerdifix instead of thinset?

[@HomeRepairTutor]

Actually it’s embedded into both thin-set and KERDI-FIX. The anchoring leg is embedded into mortar and I apply a 1/2” thick bead of KERDI-FIX on the flat side to prevent capillary water movement

[@jonaguado]

why's it so damn hard to find a 32"x60 kerdi pre-fab shower kit ??

[@HomeRepairTutor]

They don’t make one at this time. I wish they did but the 38” x 60” is the best option

[@jonaguado]

@@HomeRepairTutor if I get a 38" x 60" my drain would be off-centered right ? I removed a regular tub and now going to replace with curbless shower.. LOL. I found 1 38x60 on offerUp for $300 . a steal!

[@HomeRepairTutor]

@@jonaguado you can trim the 38” x 60” to 32” x 60” - I have a video on that

[@HomeRepairTutor]

@@jonaguado here’s a good video KERDI Shower Pan Mistakes and How You Can AVOID Them kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJawiq2ZbL5lgtE

[@Thomas-ze3mp]

do it up to code on a concrete slab :x

[@alexmiller2613]

Nice work ! But a 90 on its side is not building code in Pittsburgh.

[@HomeRepairTutor]

This wasn’t in Pittsburgh, but which 90 are you referring to?

[@francosantarossa8006]

Why did you apply a waterproof membrane over the uncoupling membrane which is waterproof? That's waterproofing over waterproofing. I find that a waste of money and time.

[@EragonINFINITY]

Gotta at least overlap two inches or like in video the person did six inches. It protects the water seeping in

[@RP09691]

No one puts Katie Couric in the corner

[@ericfitzsimmons1202]

In her day, they did