How To Build a Deck | Post Holes & Framing (2 of 5)

Watch to learn how to safely frame your deck including post hole placement, joists, brackets and bracing.
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[@wpcky7814]

I'm a contractor and I was just putzin around YT and I gotta say, pretty impressed with how concise and accurate this video is from Lowes. Spot on, nice.

[@MrSpiritmonger]

lol,wait till you see Dirt Monkey's 3 day deck video , search for it ... ahha

[@rshinn8776]

If I'm using post brackets like this vid, does the post need to be ground contact rated?

[@wpcky7814]

@@rshinn8776 all outside posts should be ground contact rated. the post metals are new but they accomplish the same task just a bit better; anything outside -especially- touching the ground has to be pt

[@wpcky7814]

pt means pressure treated, if you leave wood outside in the elements it will rot just like a log. any wood that touches the grounds needs to be PT pressure treated wood or it will rot. PT is soaked in chemicals that slow that process but even PT will rot if it sits against the wet ground, capillary action. so yes every piece of wood pt nor not, should not be against the outside wet ground or it will rot quickly. the metal brackets against the posts are there to help slow that natural process

[@rshinn8776]

@@wpcky7814 ok, thanks. Thought that if I use these metal brackets it would keep the end grain off the concrete so I would get away with just using PT non ground contact. I can't find 4xs that are made for ground contact.

[@Gabester64]

wife said build her a deck. told her ok. she dont know might take me two years lol.

[@grayghost7847]

My wife said I probably wouldn’t finish it before the end of summer. 😂

[@JLWyatt]

My wife said she really wanted a deck and didn't care how much it cost or how long it took. I told her I can have her deck ready in about 30 days but it wasn't going to be cheap. She said "I don't care. Do it.". I'm still trying to figure out why she got so mad when I told her I just closed on a house with a deck and we're moving. Her deck only cost $300,000.

[@Soul_N_Control]

What he said. 🤣

[@Drewsroofingandhomerepair]

This is the exact video I needed

[@booshallmighty]

Great helpful tutorial, I'm from the UK and we bury out posts. Form tubes just aren't used over here. I like your method much bette. I will use some cardboard postal tubes as my forms. Thanks a lot 👍

[@J5X7]

Haha, they're not cheap. Why not just cut up a plasterers bucket and use it multiple times?

[@bthorn5035]

Looks wobbly as hell.

[@cs1219]

nice video!

[@diegobonaventura8501]

Amazing!

[@dandennis8465]

Flip the framing square around at 3:50 as the shorter leg of the square is already at 16" to provide the joist spacing.

[@biggteez12]

I love these informational video its very well done...thanks im a new subscriber

[@lowes]

Taiafiafi Williams thanks and welcome!

[@ernestmambwe1056]

Nice lecture

[@idontneednodoctor01]

Thanks very much!!

[@skylerwinter561]

nice bro

[@markcalaway8854]

WONDETFUL 💡

[@meankitty1234]

2:40 you can see the guy in the blue plaid laugh as the other guy pretends to be professional lol

[@TeslaEVVideos]

Can i use the imbedded anchor bolt design on a cinder block filled with concrete?

[@idahopotato6751]

Your post are pretty wobbly.

[@lindax911]

When using the post bases on the footers, will these also support a 2 story deck? I'm guessing the footers would need to be larger to support a 2 deck ... deck?

[@joeoconnell5706]

I can't find these post brackets anywhere on the Lowe's website. Can you provide a link?

[@howtodoitdude1662]

This is the proper way to support a deck using bridges rather that hanging a deck on a ledger and a face board.

[@twd789]

good

[@texas_mike4982]

So are 4x4 good for building a 6ft high deck?

[@jansonison6283]

It’s 4 AM in the morning and I’m watching a video on how to build a deck

[@MarcosBarbosa-dw8sq]

Uncle Yeetybags aefg. iida MK e

[@NotYourAverageFishKeeper]

And then we sit and wonder where the day went lol

[@2manyspruces]

Me too, and I live in an apartment!

[@vanessateleron4948]

Marcos Barbosa 😠😡😮

[@borys444]

I’m supposed to b at work but I’m still watching u tube videos. Might not have a job by the end of today. DAMM U U TUBE!!!

[@jimmiemacd3603]

My favorite part was when they leveled up the freshly cut end of the concrete cardboard. Also how deep exactly was that concrete anchor?

[@user-ni2oz9me6l]

It said they put the freshly cut tube at the bottom of the hole.

[@NWJeeping]

What's the part number for those brackets you put the 4x4 into

[@madmonty5]

How are you supposed to add rail posts if there are reinforcing brackets in the corners?

[@devronscott2359]

You dig & pour concrete without the post in the dirt? Then connect it with the brace? How is that stronger than post being in the ground with concrete?

[@troyholder1]

its not, just a new trend

[@DapperDameTV]

Does anyone have a link to the fasteners in the video ? I cant seem to find the post cap for the beam to post connection. 3:00

[@Bigbacon]

how do you know how big of a diamater of footer tube to use?

[@11soWoo]

use a deck load calculator

[@leestebbins5051]

You might want to consult DCA 6 which prescribes a 6 X 6 column at a minimum.

[@GTAHomeGuy]

I like this vid but is there a more secure way to set posts? Every time something bumped it they shake. watch the saw cutting to height it's wobbling like crazy! I mean I know all the other components will shore it up, but I really wonder if there is a better way. I realize cross bracing will also aid. I guess I am just wondering if there is a more stable ground connection?

[@TwoTall1988]

you're supposed to brace them temporarily

[@tomphilbrook6093]

I noticed the same thing, seemed a bit loose with just the base brackets. Everyone seems to be in agreement with the methodology so I guess it works. It will all come together at the end with braces, permanent ones. .

[@labyrinthmind2951]

The posts in and of themselves are meant purely for vertical support. Attaching them this way prevents rot and makes it easier to replace. The corner braces will always be necessary to prevent racking and full stability, but that's more than enough. Think of it like a roof. It keeps the rain out but will always require the help of a truss to prevent it from racking.

[@troyholder1]

set them on the footers then pour concrete around the posts. despite what you hear your posts will not rot, that's a bunch of garbage! your deck will be way stronger as well

[@lyndonp6296]

Good advice but they have a lot more faith in line levels than I do....

[@R4venshore]

I thought you are required to usually install a flashing on the ledger board as it connects to the house.

[@KyDuramaxx]

True, but it wasn’t connected to the home. This is just free standing

[@THEMMACAT]

it was a self supporting deck.

[@RealRiders]

does this work for patio light posts?

[@sali1029]

How much would it cost to Remove two corner sonotube concrete pillars. Install new concrete pillars with 4x4 properly attached with galvanized Simpson hardware?

[@lowes]

Hi sali 10. We can't provide cost estimates but stop by your local Lowe's and an associate will help you figure out what you need to complete the project.

[@Failsafe46]

Howdy Sali! If you are looking for a product that will best protect your deck or structure, you should take a look at your failsafe form footer. Visit failsafepierfooter.com/ for more details!

[@rroberts2250]

Can these support the weight of a playhouse/swing set?

[@jtrauth1715]

No

[@diggingmystyle]

It can support my 600 lbs wife jumping up and down.

[@oldcountryman2795]

One of my decks has been sitting on 4 inch concrete blocks on the ground for 30. And if it ever did settle I’d jack it up and put a shim under the posts.

[@joaquinbecerril5062]

eh guys how can I know where exactly the holes will go for a deck of 13ft x 16ft

[@kolelamoureux8876]

What tape did you use for tips of joists?

[@borys444]

U can use zip tape

[@KaliBlaz]

yeah cut the forms with a hand saw and try to get it level like that, that was a pro tip...congratulations now you got a nice wobbly deck..

[@user-ni2oz9me6l]

It said to put the cut end in the bottom of the hole.

[@gando_411]

I live in the desert with no homes who have a deck in sight. But this is interesting

[@ryanhambleton3433]

Great Video but I'm not putting in that much work for three 4x4 posts

[@RustRivals]

Pretty sure they remade it all

[@HomelessOnline]

But how do I know where exactly to place the concrete footer?

[@michaelhagans965]

Yea I guess he should have mentioned no more than 8 feet apart

[@maryprather696]

So is this how I would start out building a room on to my home?

[@joea.4158]

No, this is a deck build, an addition would need a foundation poured or footings to match existing home. Look up Addition build, it would need to be inspected too.

[@NicoM137]

So only the end joists are actually connected to the beams underneath? Isn't this only, like, 6 points of contact for the entire deck?

[@user-ni2oz9me6l]

You can, and should, secure each joist to the beams with a bracket when you install them.

[@mefear12]

how exactly did you guys attach it to the main building? Did I Blink?

[@lowes]

mefear12; this deck is free-standing, it isn't attached to the house. You'll find more detail on the deck design and layout in the 1st episode of the build a deck series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGicl5-PZtV8gc0.

[@ahsanafzal48]

Lowe's Home Improvement you fucking idiots seriously?

[@Scott.Farkus]

Free standing is wrong, it has to be attached to the house.

[@burkerow]

A deck doesn't need to be attached to a house. Many contractors construct free standing decks. There are pros and cons to each technique. The following quote is from Mike Holmes "For my money, I’d consider building an attached deck right next to your house, on proper footings, but which is free-standing and not actually connected to your home. That way, you’ll avoid any problems of water infiltration in your home." nationalpost.com/life/homes/mike-holmes-the-delusion-of-the-diy-deck Or the following from www.finehomebuilding.com/2012/03/29/freestanding-decks-solve-ledger-attachment-challenges A good resource for designing a free-standing deck is the American Wood Council’s “Prescriptive Residential Wood Deck Construction Guide,” available online at www.awc.org. See pages 4, 14 and 15 for information on freestanding decks.

[@Scott.Farkus]

You do realize he's Canadian; right? They have different building codes, A?

[@wollins2]

No rebar in the cement piers?

[@michaelhagans965]

Was wondering the same

[@victorchavarria1066]

How do I know where to put the anchor bolt into the concrete

[@joeyd4356]

Should be in center. Most post brackets have adjustable settings if the concrete piers are not perfect

[@Eric-uh7nl]

The ledger board next to the house should be fastened to the house to prevent movement. To do this, a portion of siding has to be removed and the ledger is then bolted to the sill plate of the house.

[@ptaylor9501]

This is a freestanding deck. That is not required

[@flynnzilla8796]

Sure wish i could take in what you are saying! Why is there music?? And slowing down wouldnt hurt either! Thx

[@kidcarpenter7439]

If you using pressure treated lumber there's no need to put a ceiling on the wood

[@jollyandwaylo]

In this case there is because they were laminating two 2X together and if water gets between them it will rot whether they are pressure treated or not. If they were using a solid piece, they would not have had to.

[@patty109109]

jollyandwaylo I think this is a myth. PT wood untreated further with paint or sealant is highly porous. Any extra small puddle hanging around after a rain at the top of two joists will evaporate and/or soak in short time into the wood and dry out as any other rain-soaked PT does. I laminated PT joists on my deck in such a manner and several years later they look just-placed.

[@wpcky7814]

Even PT rots when organic matter sits on it and is wet for long enough, that little barrier prevents some of that. It isn't critical but it is nice.

[@ericgibbons5735]

what is the actual size of this deck

[@lowes]

Hi, Eric. The treated wood deck was 12 x 20. Thanks for watching.

[@hermeschavez9186]

Eric Gibbons

[@jbulldog5629]

Never had much luck using 4x4 legs on a porch or deck. They like to twist and split over a few seasons.

[@nightmares2night77]

Anyone know the best way to pour these footings ??

[@wpcky7814]

You pour concrete in it and tap the top with a piece of wood gently til the bubbles come out and the top becomes smooth and sandy instead of rocky.

[@darryltaylor9916]

..yes, watch the beginning of the video.

[@monkichiboi4003]

everything was decent except it didnt explain how to level and center the foot into the concrete THATS THE WHOLE POINT I CLICKED VIDEO

[@jtltet]

That's one wobbly deck. I would much rather put the posts in the ground.

[@mae2759]

That makes them susceptible to rot. New technique is to put them on concrete above the ground.

[@rlake349]

What! No Spax Screws ?

[@ginabengel3028]

B.

[@michalbilik9182]

Gina Bengel The same Time

[@Dogpool]

That nail gun is huge!

[@jameskeogh9452]

Screw this...I'm just gonna hire somebody.

[@pwb0511]

Hire me, I know how, just watched this video!

[@disgustinghandsome1282]

Pok pok poook (chicken sound) 😛.

[@mattb9664]

How’s the saying go? If you want it done right....

[@katdog100]

@Alden Buyer, They wanted to charge me $20,000 for labor on a Trex 16x16 deck. The Trex material was only $6,000 that included post lights and railing. So total for the job estimated at $26,000. Crazy

[@brikshoe6259]

@@katdog100 Rule of thumb is that labor costs should be approximately the same as the material costs. They saw you coming.

[@Justindmoon1982]

They didn't attach that wobbly deck to the house because they took it down after the video.

[@jgeisler]

Often, attaching a bracket just to an existing concrete pad is insufficient and probably won't meet code.

[@bobzthecat82]

the foundation posts should not be moving like that when beams are secured to them! and im a novice

[@tonyp9179]

It's good that you show people in alternative relationships rather than typical husband and wife home improvement shows. Bravo Lowe's and thank you!

[@MtnXfreeride]

Why does that even matter? Im here to learn about deck building. I never understand why the minority expects the majority to cater above and beyond to them.

[@tonyp9179]

@@MtnXfreeride I don't think anyone is being catered too.

[@grayghost7847]

What makes you think they’re in a relationship? Pretty sure they’re a construction crew or contractors. WHAT A GAY COMMENT.

[@NeverComplyEver]

It's just two bros building a deck....pyscho.

[@tonyp9179]

@@NeverComplyEver ironed clothes, leather sneakers, shaved arms...

[@Scott.Farkus]

They didn't attach it to the house.

[@bswam44]

Decks commonly fail when the ledger connection fails. Safer to build a deck that does not rely on a ledger to keep it in place. Note also that the information about determining which side is the crown is wrong. You need to look at the end of the board and see which way the grain curves - up or down at the ends.

[@coconut8415]

Real, do it yerself project huh?

[@tonyh7734]

why using 4x4? That's not code, but good video otherwise

[@mdutchy2582]

Yeah. that deck is going to sway right? I mean dang those posts were jiggling pretty easiler

[@natrlsrf03]

Don’t ever use screws to frame sh*t always a framing gun with galvanized nails where needed screws shear with any kind of movement nails won’t

[@kevinintheusa8984]

I think they were only using the screws to hold the framing so they could add the bracket to them. I do this when we do floor framing to save time and I set the floor joists so they can follow with the brackets and the connector nail gun.

[@Jorge-fy2nd]

The deck look drunk!!

[@belomolnar2128]

No screws only nails ? Seems unhealthy.

[@aron6998]

My wife prefers either way honestly

[@moxiboxi]

Thats one wobble deck

[@journeyortize202]

Those posts look loose 😂

[@jimconnell8994]

They wobbled when being marked with the string😳

[@landomilknhoney]

Way too fast, and lapses between

[@Gen01Lee]

Eve Ning that’s what your girl said about you..!!

[@Vulcan5911]

You're going way to fast and leaving out to much. Slow down with these videos so people can absorb the correct information better.

[@RANDRIAMBOLA]

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[@awgondzur]

Footings, not footers

[@dharmindersingh7369]

Post don’t look solid

[@marye8624]

I would never pound nails into posts, etc. What a great way to throw it out of plumb and level! Dumb. Screw everything, always.

[@11soWoo]

screws have thinner shaft, nails are sturdier and stronger for this kind of load and also prevent wood splitting.

[@grayghost7847]

akatgn Pre-drill holes to prevent splitting.

[@hugohurtado375]

Bad very bad job honestly

[@tashaanderson2128]

this is an awesome video. people don't like it because it's two brown guys building it. I've seen how this plays out in real life. Non-white guy builds something, it's crap. White guy builds actual crap, it's awesome. Same effin story repeated across america a million times a day

[@navyvet8798]

shut up with your racists crap, enough already

[@kenpriest5672]

Typical

[@grayghost7847]

This is about as dumb a comment as the gay one a few comments up. You just made me assume your race 🤣

[@sumac1924]

the posts are wobbling. I dont know why stores are recommending the metal braces to the concrete. They Wobble!!!! Bury the post in cement. Trust Me!

[@jimsomerville3924]

@@sumac1924 I'm really suspect of those metal brackets and all thread being more reliable than the method you mentioned. I wonder if any actual studies were done to prove them more effective.

[@thefly7123]

You make all the work with the concrete then add a wooden post with that thin galvanized thing.... I just had to stop watching after that.. why is this on the internet??

[@stevek271]

nice video!

[@kazemamin2855]

nice video!