How to Build a Fire: Upside Down Fire, Cleaner Burn

In this video, I show you a great method of lighting a fire in the fireplace, the upside down fire method. Fires are usually lit with the tinder in the bottom layer, then kindling, then medium pieces of wood, then the largest pieces of wood above. In this method, the fire is upside down, with the largest pieces of wood on the bottom and the tinder and kindling at the top.
To create this fire, I use nine logs, with the three largest logs on the bottom. I pack them tight against each other, so that there are almost no gaps. Then the second layer would be perpendicular with three medium pieces of logs. Then the third layer on top would consist of three smaller pieces of log and would, again, be perpendicular to the layer below. I then use two pieces of newspaper for tinder and some small twigs for kindling on the top. I then light the fire from the top. The fire burns from top down. It starts small, and heats up the flew. The first layer then catches fire, and the fire grows. As embers begin to fall through the gaps of each layer, the next layer gets lit.
There are several benefits to this method. First, the fire is at the top and will not be smothered by any larger logs above it. The fire also directly heats the flue and primes it so that the draft is efficient and takes away any smoke. There is less smoke in this method, since the fire is at the top and will burn any fumes or smoke that are emitted by the logs below. And since the fire is at the top of the stack, the fire is able to heat the masonry of the fireplace, and by doing that, radiate heat into the room. Any embers that fall, fall to the next layer below and are used in the fire, rather than falling onto the ground and cooling down. There is very low need to tend to the fire as well, as you do not need to add any more logs or poke the fire, as it should collapse onto itself.
I film about two hours of the fire, showing you different stages of the fire. It was 36F outside, and my thermostats in the home were set for 70F. At the end of two hours, I used a thermometer and the area in front of the fire was approximately 76F.
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[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching! If you have tried out this method please let us know how it went for you.

[@tyalejandro684]

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[@kimwann2197]

Excellent instructional video. We’ve never built a fire in an indoor fireplace & this worked well the very first time. Thank you!

[@vilramos]

Glad it was helpful! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

[@bobverdino8231]

Wish I knew this technique years ago. Surprisingly simple. And little or no smoke.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! We enjoy these fires.

[@MarkHarmer]

This works so fantastically well. I’ve been making fires all my life, and never realised this was the way to do it. In our log-burner, it has worked brilliantly every single night so far. And as someone else said - you can just leave it running for hours with no maintenance.

[@vilramos]

Great! I am so glad this method worked out for you and I hope the video was helpful in explaining how to do it. As the winter approaches, this video is picking up again in views, which is awesome! I have other how to videos on my channel.

[@invictusaeternum]

Best tutorial on KZbin

[@vilramos]

Thank you for the compliment!

[@djpage7]

Tried this last night...worked perfectly. I really had my doubts, and was convinced it wasn't going to work after the newspaper burned. But the small twigs caught, then lit the larger kindling, then the logs. Also, very little continuous maintenance required. This will definitely be my regular method for lighting a fire.

[@vilramos]

Great to hear that! Have fun with this fire and thanks for giving it a try.

[@filomenamendonsa6671]

What an awesome idea; I love it will for sure try it this fall! Thank you for this!

[@mattieice2988]

finally a video that makes sence love iceman

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching! I am glad it helped out.

[@tarynsanmartino8930]

So much better, efficient, warmer, and less tending. What more could you ask for. Nice!

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment.

[@MrXarisdim]

Excellent! Thank you very much and greetings from Athens, Greece!

[@darkskies6564]

Thanks for the wonderful video,nothing better then a good warming fire.

[@Yoonah_Yoonie]

My boyfriend and I are moving into our new apartment soon and it has a fireplace so we will definitely be trying this method out!

[@mr.m8123]

This was splendid; what a great way to compensate for the PGE gouge here in Marin. Great explanation....Thank you!!

[@vilramos]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dianefaulhaber8315]

Great idea!!

[@brianbrewster827]

Wow! This is one of the few things you see online that actually works!!!! Thank you for the video!!

[@elijahd.spragueph.d8905]

I tried this method and it was a success! Thank you for posting this video!

[@vilramos]

Great, I am glad that it worked out for you. I have other how to videos on my how to playlist.

[@dano75]

I've used this method ever since I saw you do it. Perfect every time. Thanks!

[@vilramos]

Great! Glad it worked out for you! I have a how to playlist on KZbin that you may enjoy.

[@mrwhipster31]

Thanks mate. Worked really well with more heat.

[@mr.m8123]

Just want to tell you that we have been using this method for a few weeks now and it is great!! We modify it a bit and use fewer pieces of wood but the basic principle is superb! Thank you!

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! I am glad it is working for you. I use fewer pieces of wood too when I want a shorter burn.

[@derikmalone5360]

Literally the never ending fire. As soon as it gets low add a couple more logs. Good stuff man 👍

[@grose24]

Going to try this method out this week. Very excited to see how well I can make this method work!

[@manuelamaya3483]

Thanks for the lesson brotha! Headed to pick up some firewood now. Can't wait to try this in about 20 minutes...

[@corlodder1995]

Will need to try that. Hope your stockings didn't burn...

[@thetinycathouse]

Have a fireplace for the first time, and after some not-so-great attempts, this worked perfectly. Thank you!

[@vilramos]

Glad it helped!

[@ReeceDee]

I did my first log fire last week. It was so satisfying. Ha ha. This looks like a great method. I'll try at next opportunity 👍🏽

[@soulplane7320]

Plan on trying it sometime this week!! Thanks man!!

[@AlexVicarregui]

Yup, i'll try it too, seems pretty efficient. Thanks!

[@giaquarian1]

I'm just learning thank you so much

[@vilramos]

You are so welcome

[@Noonangrams]

This worked perfectly! Thank you for the thorough video. I was having serious smoke issues in our living room lately and it was driving my wife and kids crazy. I will be doing this method forever!

[@vilramos]

I am glad it worked out for you! The priming of the flue helps suck the smoke up the chimney. Another tip is to crack a window in the room a tiny bit to feed oxygen to the fire. Try it out! I have other how to videos you may enjoy on my how to playlist.

[@ian9toes]

For outdoor I like the idea of a log cabin on top and keep adding kindling in the middle. Gets it going quicker when you really want to get warm.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! Yes, a log cabin will protect the starting fire from wind and start quicker. The Upside Down fire will still have benefits outdoors with low maintenance, heat on top and around, and less smokey. However, it does take longer than the traditional way of building fires.

[@Just_Call_Me_Tim]

I'm three years late, but I wasn't aware that anyone set up their fireplace any different. I grew up with a wood stove and fireplace, and this is pretty much exactly how we did it. You can also prime your flue with a candle. Once the flam starts stretching upwards, flue is primed.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the tips! Glad to hear you use this method too. I believe some people start fires with the kindling and tinder in the bottom, like you would for a camping fire, but it ends up causing smoke.

[@melissaseverance6494]

Life changing! I’ve used your method twice so far and both times it worked perfectly. I used a couple of handfuls of twigs with 3 fatwood sticks and a pinecone mixed in for the top layer of kindling, lit one end of a fatwood stick with a log match and walked away. Great fire, zero maintenance. Thank you so much!

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching! Wonderful! Glad to hear you tried it. I just lit an upside down fire in my fireplace today. Zero maintenance. And a lot of warmth in the room. I have other how to videos on my channel in my how to playlist. Have a great day!

[@Mixwell1983]

I will definately try this method, I usually do it the traditional way of kindling on bottom and larger pieces on top. Thanks !

[@MsAmira1988]

Great video, I will give this a try tonight!

[@vilramos]

Thanks! How did it go? Did it work for you?

[@Mrhphs]

Thank you for this. I was only doing it with two layers, not three. I’ll be trying this today. Next we have to get an insert for your fireplace. You’ll burn hotter with half the amount of wood. God bless and happy new year.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! Do you have a wood or gas insert? Let me know what temperature you get in your living room when you light a fire. I'm curious to see. Make a video to show us. Thanks and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

[@markanderson7267]

Enjoying it as I write this-have started many fires in my fireplace but this has been the easiest and most efficient!

[@vilramos]

Glad you enjoyed it too! Share a video of your fire!

[@hannahtuer5553]

I was spending so much time tending to the fires I could barely enjoy them (not to say tending to the fires isn't fun... but you know what I mean) I tried this technique just now and it worked incredibly well. I was so doubtful at first, but I'm really glad I stumbled upon your video. Can't wait to finally sit back and enjoy the fire!!

[@vilramos]

Great! Glad it worked out for you. I have other how to videos you may enjoy. Have a great week!

[@gregoryleggett9773]

I made a great fire on Christmas Day after watching your video...thanks Vil, and happy holidays !

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! Glad that my video helped out. I have other how to videos on my channel. Merry Christmas!

[@brynnrobenstein1902]

This worked incredibly well, much better than the teepee method I usually use! Thank you!

[@vilramos]

Great, glad that the upside down fire worked for you! Thanks for watching! I have other how to videos on my channel.

[@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven]

Yeah, the Teepee Method is a "Outdoors" Type of Fire Sittings. It needs a lot more Air + Wind Draft to Light properly and to be Maintained. But this Great Upside Down Method is great for Indoors since it allow the heat to build up slowly and take less air flow to work. So perfect for small Fireplaces up to the big Grand ones.

[@Andrico77]

Nice work, i thought your stockings were goin go up in flames .. lol

[@vilramos]

So did I! The fire gets hot!

[@franzfms86]

Watching this again.

[@ahmedjalal3199]

You rock men I just did it tonight and it works perfectly , I didn’t touch it for an hour and 45 mn and it still burning . For those who didn’t like it or it didn’t work for them something went wrong with your fire !!!!! Keep it real You Rock Thank you

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment and am glad that it worked out for you.

[@slickabsguy]

Very cool informative video, and thank for sharing. This IS the new way that I have a fire in the fireplace on a cold winter's night. It does last a couple hours with no feeding. Looking forward to napping in front of the fireplace again.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! I have other how to videos on my channel.

[@nevenmazic]

Worked perfectly at my first time doing it! Thanks for the tutorial!!

[@vilramos]

Great! Hope it helped! I have other how to videos on my channel you may enjoy.

[@gatorwoman71-the-real-one]

I'm definitely going to try this! Can you please advise how to let the fire burn out safely and when you know it's okay to leave it alone so you can sleep?

[@vilramos]

It is hard to say because I don’t know your fireplace or your chimney or home. I tend to wait until all the wood has stopped burning and turned into ashes or hot coals. I then spread them out with a tool. I leave the flue open all night and close it in the morning when the ashes are cold.

[@cowboyswami2017]

Great Video & very informative , thanks so much !

[@TheDemocraticNationalCommittee]

Nice video! Definitely gonna try it out, I am trying to build my first fire this weekend. Happy new year!

[@heatsourcemusic2539]

Great job! I'll try it tonight (Christmas Eve)

[@vilramos]

How did the fire go? Hope it worked out.

[@heatsourcemusic2539]

@@vilramos it's been great! I'm never going back. Works like a dream every time.

[@jesika1984]

Cant wait to try this tonight! How would you add to the fire if you'd like to continue to have a fire for longer? Is there a certain way to add logs so that it doesnt suffocate the fire etc? Thanks!

[@vilramos]

From my experience it gets so hot and the embers are so large that I just put two logs softly on top of the fire parallel to the back wall if I want to lengthen the fire more. Keep a little gap to allow for air circulation. Thanks for watching and please let me know how it goes for you!

[@sheilasavar9679]

I plan to try this tonight. Can’t believe it worked with no starters. If it worked, I’ll return the tools I just purchased. Thanks much!

[@vilramos]

Thanks! Hope it works well for you. Please let me know how your experience goes. Would love to hear about it.

[@thomascollins3799]

I have always built my fires from the bottom up and it can sometimes be difficult to start. I have learned that it comes down to kindling and oxygen flow. Don't be stingy with kindling. The more kindling, the faster the fire will start and you'll have fewer false starts (embarrassing when guests are over!). I am eager to try this method but I would use fewer logs at the start. Nine is a lot! Although I have a very large fireplace, I typically start with just three logs (two medium + one small) and have no more than 4 logs burning at any time. With a smaller fire, it helps to keep a generous oxygen flow and, of course, reduce firewood consumption!

[@vilramos]

Thanks for all the tips! I appreciate it.

[@rasheedodom215]

Great video, worked like a charm....set it & forget it 🔥🔥

[@vilramos]

Yes, it is very low maintenace, set it and forget it!

[@allanwells4886]

Thanks Vil, I'll give this a go tomorrow morning and see how it goes. Looks like I may have been doing it incorrectly for 41years!

[@vilramos]

Good luck! Please let me know how it goes for you.

[@jdub2878]

It looks like you have a Rumford fireplace, that alone will give you a better burn than an aesthetic fireplace.

[@dianefaulhaber8315]

Great info!!

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching!

[@sharonperry8690]

Can’t wait to try this for the holidays

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching! Did you try this fire? Let me know how it went.

[@sharonperry8690]

@@vilramos it went really well, It's the only way I'll light my fireplace now. I've told others too!

[@vilramos]

Thanks for trying it and glad it worked well. Please feel free to share this video if you like. I have other how to videos on my channel.

[@seasonings2taste115]

Just a tip. I use a chimney starter for charcoal and use newspaper as the fuel to get it lit. Spray your paper with cooking spray and it will burn hotter and longer

[@vilramos]

Great tip! Thanks!

[@semihkarabas6185]

I was watching this video and i wanted to comment that this way is slower, more time is needed before you actually get your house heated but you explained the faster technique, so thanks for the great instructions, i try to clean the ashes everytime i start the fire but keep the coaled wood in the fireplace and in my experience the faster you start a big fire the less smoke you produce nevertheless ill try this technique. Thanks for the video

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching. I hope it works well. How did it go?

[@anthonykaiser974]

Here's the thing, you get less smoke with a top down burn for several reasons. The first is you're warming the flue and creating conditions for a good updraft before the fire gets going. Since the fire starts higher in the firebox, there's less likelihood of smoke escaping into the room. Second, the logs under the fire start to offgas before they themselves catch fire, and that gas is burned instead of just smoking. There is little to no handling of the fire. I set my fire this afternoon at about 1:45, and it's still going almost 4 hours later, with minimal maintenance (big masonry firebox.)

[@vilramos]

Four hours? That is awesome! Thanks for commenting!

[@anthonykaiser974]

@@vilramos I rarely have a smoke problem until the fire is low in the firebox doing this. Mostly because of a previous gas setup that wasn't sealed for woodburning. My whole fireplace needs work, though, so probably no more burning for me until repairs and mods.

[@moscabianca2054]

I'm glad you responded to the gentleman who asked you how to ensure that a fire is out. Can you just elaborate on one point? Are you saying that when you go to bed, all of the embers have died and the flu is left open, or do you feel safe to go to bed with a few embers still smoldering, again with the flu open? Thank you so much and you did a great job on this video.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for your question. I believe it is safest to make sure the fire is out so that all embers have died before you go to bed. If there are still a few burning embers or red coal embers, you can use your fire shovel tool to mix the embers and ash and shovel ash on top of the embers to help extinguish the fire quickly. Leave the flue open overnight to let out any smoke as the ashes are still hot. With this fire, it lasts a long time and the embers are huge in the end, so make sure you give yourself enough time when you light it to wait for it to die out. Now I can't be responsible for your safety, so you need to evaluate your own fire and setup and make your own judgement as to what is safest. Good luck!

[@Bradyvilleboy]

Very nice. Thank you for this video.

[@vilramos]

Thanks!

[@gmaneis]

I've never had a fireplace (72 years old) but am in the process of buying a house with two of them! This video is really excellent. Two questions: 1) With this method, is it necessary to prime the flue so the draft is heading up the chimney instead of having cold air come down at the start? and 2) When this fire reaches the final stages shown in your video, is it safe to leave it and go to bed, and if not, how do you put it out without creating huge clouds of smoke? Thanks in advance to you, Vil, or anyone else who can help.

[@vilramos]

Thanks for your question. With this method, for my fireplace, I do not need to prime the flue, because the small fire at the top of the pile does the priming for me. However, your fireplace may be different and if you do get some smoky smell at the beginning, perhaps it will help to prime with some newspaper. For all stages of the fire, including final stages, I always make sure to always be in the room with a fire with an active flame or red coals, for safety. To put it out, I wait for the flames to die out and the fire to crumble into ash, and I leave the flue open overnight to allow the gases to continue escaping up the chimney. Towards the end of a fire, I use a poker to spread out the burning wood and hot coals, so that they are spread thinly and that will speed up the fire cooling down. This is just my opinion though and I cannot be liable for your safety-so please consult an expert resource on fires and fireplaces to make sure you are safe.

[@gmaneis]

@@vilramos Thanks for answering. Appreciate your info.

[@vilramos]

You are welcome! Let me know how it goes with your new fireplaces when you move in to the new home. Good luck!

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

Little late to the party, so I'm sure you got your answer and you've already had your fires and stuff but thought I'd throw in my two cents worth: of course the nice thing about this fire that does preheat the food so no you don't have to do that as a separate step and the rest of my comments below: If you understand how a stove works the flu has to be heated up anyway I had a friend that wanted to build a fire right now so he proceeded to smoke the entire house out to the point we had to open the doors and windows. this heats the flu quickly efficiently it creates draft and makes it flyer burn very fast and efficiently so if you want to do the old fashioned way go ahead waste your time sitting there adding one stick at a time I've tried it it don't work that good. I've tried this in multiple situations it works perfect every time in every stove I've tried it in no matter how small the firebox...

[@keithmoriyama5421]

Fire stockings!

[@thesavagelifestyle332]

As this is by far, your most popular upload on your channel, could we see another fireplace fire video this christmas?

[@vilramos]

Thank you for your suggestion! I'll work on one soon. I actually got a Solostove Bonfire recently and have a video in my pipeline with my first fire using that. Natrually it was an upside down fire. I'll let you know when I release it.

[@thesavagelifestyle332]

@@vilramos Thanks for letting me know :)

[@vilramos]

Here is the link to my solostove fire, as promised. Thanks for watching it already!

[@billkane1987]

Great video!

[@vilramos]

Thanks Bill! Try this out!

[@bif24701]

Great idea

[@vilramos]

Thanks! Try this at home and let me know how it was.

[@jaythomas2963]

Without doors on your fireplace, how do you keep the cold air coming in while the fire dies out??

[@vilramos]

Unfortunately that is the negative of an old fashion fireplace like this. I keep the flue open until the fire dies out and then close the flue. During that time it will let air out. My flue has a sliding door that allows you to partially open a grill but I find that it can smell Smokey in the room. My fire is usually dying out late at night and during that time I lower the thermostat in the unoccupied living room so my radiators are off and that helps lower energy use a bit. One option is to get a door to limit air circulation or use a natural gas insert instead.

[@darkskies6564]

Did you ever think about a heat exchanger for your fireplace?

[@vilramos]

Thanks for the comment! What is a heat exchanger and how does it work? We generally just use the fireplace the old fashioned way, but we have thought about inserts. We like the natural fire, although I understand it may not be as efficient...

[@dmdfishin]

Awesomeness

[@lauratempestini5719]

Smart!!

[@vilramos]

Thanks!

[@fatihguner4041]

Gonna try it today. This method looks maintenance free for almost 2 hours or more

[@chrisniner8772]

Good work...imagine if it were in a stove throwing off heat instead of going up the chimney!

[@vilramos]

That would be cool!

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

If you understand how a stove works the flu has to be heated up anyway I had a friend that wanted to build a fire "right now" so he proceeded to smoke the entire house out to the point we had to open the doors and windows. this heats the flu quickly efficiently it creates draft and makes it flyer burn very fast and efficiently so if a person wants to do the old fashioned way go ahead and waste your time sitting there adding one stick at a time I've tried it it don't work that good. I've tried this in multiple situations it works perfect every time in every stove I've tried it in no matter how small the firebox. so you're right it is even better in a stove cuz you'll be getting a lot more heat out of it. THAT was a good point!!!

[@vilramos]

That is great to hear that it works well in a wood stove! Can you share a video of someone building one in a stove? Thanks!

[@georgeeslin7875]

Do you ever think of a insert

[@grousgrek6560]

vil nice fire ! what kind of wood are you using ?

[@vilramos]

It is mixed firewood, bought from a local garden center. Came split, some of the logs have bark, some not. Seems to be a mix of pine and oak, but not really sure. I keep the firewood stacked dry in my garage.

[@andrewklein3575]

Does this method work in an outdoor fire pit

[@vilramos]

It should work if it is not windy. However, I have not tried it. I would imagine if there is a lot of wind, the small fire starting at the top will have a tough time staying alive and you may be better off with a normal teepee or bottom up fire... Hope it works for you! Let me know what happens.

[@ian9toes]

As he mentioned in the video as an alternative is a “log cabin” on top. This works well outdoors because you can keep adding kindling in the middle to get the heat up to dry wet wood plus the kindling is protected from wind

[@kevinmartin6036]

Most Wood Burning Fireplaces based off what I've seen usually only heat the area closest to it cause 90% of the heat is going up the chimney cause I have a vented gas log set in an existing Brick Chimney and you feel the heat when you're within 3 feet of the fire but it's certainly not like a wood stove.

[@stephensmith799]

I wish this method was used on steam locomotives!

[@westsidecommunityalliance8608]

great! but don't keep those stockings right above the fire! dangerous!!

[@vilramos]

Thanks! You're right.

[@pandorasbox6607]

How long will it burn?

[@vilramos]

2 hours or more. And the beauty is this setup requires little prodding or maintenance. I hope you enjoy trying it out.

[@pandorasbox6607]

@@vilramos Thank you so much! I'll keep you posted

[@StartVisit]

put duraflame log at the top

[@kunjidee]

I know fire sparks, but that screen in front is stopping a lot of heat from coming into the room...

[@vilramos]

Thanks for watching and for your comment. Yes, I agree that screen does stop some heat, but the fire still heated the room pretty well. I used a meat thermometer in my video to test the temperature of the room. Try this method at home!

[@safffff1000]

Great fire technique but a completely wasteful wood burner. Get a blaze king insert

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

Goods video Sucky Music.

[@giampaolorettori3144]

swiss method

[@djexitvideos]

whos here from texas?

[@lichub]

Never three on a match.

[@julieforman7171]

STOP IT IS THIS SORCERY???

[@vilramos]

Haha! No. It is just a more efficient way to light a fire. Primes the flue, less maintenance, slow burn and 360 degrees of heat. Try it out and let me know how it goes.

[@julieforman7171]

@@vilramos I built my first fire ever (I always let my husband do it) and it WORKED! We had the best fire we've had in ages! Thank you!

[@vilramos]

Great to hear that it worked for you. Thanks for trying it out. I have other how to videos on my how to playlist on youtube. Check it out!

[@christophermcdonough3466]

I DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID TO DO....AND BURNED DOWN MY HOUSE. NOW I'M SITTING IN SOME GUYS TENT ON THE STREET ..THANK GOD HE HAS WIFI. ..

[@rbagboyz]

25 min she is no longer in the mood .... 1 hr. she home by now ....

[@frangeech]

That was cold.... LoL 😂

[@siriosstar4789]

This is nonsense . it's a cleaner burn for the first 60 seconds as the flue is warming up but after that the combustion of the remaining material burns the same according to its moisture content . Heat rises , so even if there is a bit of initial smoke from the bottom up method , the larger pieces on top will ignite waay faster than the top down method . most of the available heat produced by the kindling is wasted in terms of it igniting the larger pieces because the heat is moving UP and away from those logs . i have a two ton soapstone stove that will ignite the logs in less than 60 seconds by using the traditional method . people discovered thousands of years ago that heat rises and that law of nature is adhered to by all stove companies world wide as evidenced in their lighting instructions . one youtuber was bragging that his logs were fully engulfed in flames after forty minutes . 😂😂 lol my logs are fully ablaze in less than two minutes .he contradicted every argument he made about the top down method being superior .