How to Build a Large Powder Coating Oven DIY UPDATE

How to Build a Large Powder Coating Oven DIY UPDATE
It's been awhile since we've done an update on our propane powered DIY powder coating oven build. If you've been a subscriber for awhile you already know that we built our first powder coating oven 4'x4'x5' and powdered it with a 75,000 - 125,000 BTU Mr Heater propane heater.
Just a few months ago when we expanded the oven to 4'x8'x5' we had to upgrade the heater because the one that we were using was not working well for that size oven. So we upgraded to a 250,000 to 425,000 BTU Mr Heater propane heater. You can get the electric solenoid here amzn.to/2Xfm3Hl
In this video we go over how we built our DIY powder coating oven, some mistakes we made, and what we would do different if we were to build it again. We also explain in depth on how to wire up your InkBird PID controller for your oven.
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[@djsbuds123]

I run my 8x4x12 oven off of 2 300000btu mr heaters. They work great. I powder coat professionally and avoided paying out 20k for a oven. Great work guys

[@710performance]

It seems the best way to go for sure! $20k for an oven and you have to wait 6-8 weeks before you get it.

[@Hizenburgerr]

Is it okay to use a gas blower? Is there any issues with gas blowing in at high speed

[@tonybaloney5606]

How do you keep it from exploding?

[@tedbastwock3810]

I really like this. I have never powder coated, but am looking to start at home. One thing that confuses me is why in the Eastwood powder coating videos they say never use a gas oven but I see and hear of folks using gas ovens. If anyone could help explain that would be great. Thanks for sharing this video, looks really great and Im glad you got a system that works for you.

[@710performance]

It could be for their specific powder, not all powders are created equal. Although I do know people who have put their powder in a gas oven and not had any issues.

[@atlasoverlandrecovery]

some powders are flamable. just be sure not to cook in a closed room or low ventilation.

[@dbdawg2350]

Good video and thank you. However, you glanced over the solenoid really quick and didn't show it inline with the propane tank. Some people might not understand the PID shuts off not only the heater but the gas feed as well.

[@710performance]

Thanks for pointing that out, we did talk about it in our original bill video but I didn’t talk about it in this one thanks for pointing that out

[@anthonyreddy2834]

Alot of great tips!

[@710performance]

Thank you! Glad they helped!

[@perknowitzki7158]

Thank you for all the helpful info you’re putting out! Helping out a lot and will help a lot more ppl in the future!🤙🏼

[@710performance]

King PrettyFlacko thank you for all of the support!

[@efraindelariva9368]

@@710performance sir i don't know what your trying to say i not good with wired and stuff but if there a chance would you build one for me and how much will it cost

[@imr7874]

Very usefull and beautiful explained great job bro

[@710performance]

Thank you. I’m glad it helped you 👍

[@wmlbiker1]

great vid, thanks for taking the time!

[@710performance]

Thank you! Let us know if you have any questions 👍

[@NetCustoms]

NICE BUILD BRO

[@710performance]

Thank you 🙏

[@oldmountainmarineandmetals9736]

I'm building a 4×5 out of metal studs but, I'm putting 8 inch tires with two that swivel with a bar connected like a pit cart that NASCAR uses at the races

[@710performance]

Awesome 💪

[@johnagorman]

Great build! Excellent ideas. Thank you

[@710performance]

Thank you!

[@conrog1]

Cool oven buy what i want tonknow is how did you put windows on the side walls of a quonset hut?

[@710performance]

They were already there when we rented it

[@georgeburns5811]

Thanks

[@710performance]

No problem! Thank you for the support!

[@T0tenkampf]

Not sure if you ever moved yet but when you do you should skin the outside of the walls too. The insulation isnt doing as much as it could unless it is inside an enclosed air gap.

[@710performance]

We have moved and we have about 90% of it skinned in the outside 👍💪👌

[@T0tenkampf]

@@710performance nice, thanks for the information video!

[@walkerandrews8892]

Can you link the controllers you used please

[@MikefromMOMichaelTurner227]

Loved the video! I’m gonna try a 60000 btu on a 3x3x2 ft oven. Do you think I’ll have problems blowing the fresh powder off? Keep up the good job 👍 mt.

[@710performance]

We’ve never had a problem with it blowing powder off. Just make sure it’s it pointed directly at the piece

[@MikefromMOMichaelTurner227]

Thank you very much 😊

[@710performance]

@@MikefromMOMichaelTurner227 knproblem! 👍

[@thinkconcreteatlantallc8847]

I need HELP!!! My 400k btu won't go beyond 172F 😢.. I followed the steps

[@710performance]

Email us and we’ll do what we can to try and help. [e-mail]

[@thinkconcreteatlantallc8847]

I'm not getting power to my plug outlet.. I have neutral and hot connected. .. where would a ground come from and connect to ?

[@710performance]

I don’t know right off hand, but we do have another video that explains the wiring better

[@jiteshpatel5026]

I have questions. You don’t put exhaust. Why. They need or not

[@710performance]

We do have one

[@jiteshpatel5026]

Can you send me smoll video about exhaust. Please

[@jiteshpatel5026]

I have 4x4x7 ft oven and I have mr heter How big exhaust I need?

[@BetterForever24]

I am not familar with those style propane heaters. Do they suck air from which they are working?

[@710performance]

yes from the back of the heater

[@MaikyLaBestia]

After months of building and bunch of money put in to the damn heater wish is new don't want to light up 😢 I'm really frustrated, and really hope I could reach out to you any way possible so you can help any way possible. I copied exactly everything how you did it and is not heating.

[@710performance]

Please send us an email at [e-mail] and explain your issue and we will help the best we can.

[@MaikyLaBestia]

@@710performance thank you so much sir, will do.

[@matty332010]

Great video guys. I was wondering how you guys wired that up. Love your shirt, lol

[@710performance]

Matt Ellsworth LOL thank you!

[@j4graphics17]

I appreciate the videos! One question I do have is why do you need the solenoid for the heater? Thanks Joe

[@710performance]

So the PID controller can turn it on and off when needed based on the temp inside the oven

[@j4graphics17]

@@710performance Thanks for the response, but I was talking about the solenoid that you put into the heater. I think I figured it out though! Thank you.

[@T0tenkampf]

@@j4graphics17 likely shuts off the gas to the heater

[@customfinishcarpentryandmi8053]

I see bandimere in your into hi from co springs

[@710performance]

Hey hey! We moved from Colorado about 2 years ago 👍

[@TonyRamz9]

At operating Temp, what does the outside temp of the oven(frame) look like?

[@710performance]

80° - 90°

[@exemjazhuel3428]

Bro where i can find the part to connect the heater to the oven or extend the heater

[@710performance]

Home Depot or Lowes

[@kingscatmaster5386]

My oven is about 2 feet bigger than yours 2 ways. How big is your exhaust port? Also I'm running the exact setup you are, how are you going about keeping the tank warm. I have been noticing my tank freezing up and consistantly running until there is not enough pressure to maintain 400°. :( Send help pleaseeeeeee.

[@710performance]

Our exhaust is about 3” in diameter. As for our tank, first get a 100 lb tank if you don’t have one already, then when it starts to get close to empty use warm/hot water to keep the tank warm. But first you will need a 100 lb tank

[@rebeccalee3452]

Do you actually have an exhaust fan or just vented. I just built an 8x8x8 oven with a 4 inch vent to outside. I didn’t know if I needed a fan. The burner blows pretty hard so I didn’t think I did

[@710performance]

We just have a vent 👍

[@dkskater1]

Did the 125,000 btu get the oven to temp easily?

[@710performance]

yessir in about 8 minutes

[@edgarask22]

Hello, how you clean the air from dust? Did you use any air filter?

[@710performance]

Nope, it’s never been a problem

[@joriesimon8809]

Nice boss

[@710performance]

Thanks

[@lance8698]

What Guage wires did you use when setting up the pid?

[@710performance]

Same gauge that came in the solenoid

[@pagal_scientist]

Hello Sir. Thank you for the great video. I have 2 questions. Do we need to keep the blowing side of the heater air tight inside the oven? Is there any other hole for ventilation?

[@710performance]

No you don’t need to keep it air tight where it enters the oven, but you also don want large gaps. Yes there is an exhaust vent on the side

[@pagal_scientist]

@@710performance with your great teachings I have built my own oven. Thank you so much for your help. I have one more question. Can I put powdered products in my oven and then turn on the oven? Or is it compulsory to preheat the oven before inserting the powedered products? Note: my oven reaches 400 within 10 minutes

[@TheHalusis]

flashing?

[@710performance]

Not on this one

[@anthonymcarthur122]

Do you have a video on has to set up the PID temperature controller

[@710performance]

Yes we do, we have a couple of them. There is a detailed video that we did that's a few months after this one,

[@joshdemarkles5977]

You haven't had any issues with using a single propane tank? Mr heater says minimum 2 tanks on their website.

[@710performance]

We have in the winter time and colder months, so we have been thinking about getting a second tank. But one has served us quite well

[@joshdemarkles5977]

@@710performance how strong is the flow from that heater? any problems with powder blowing off? what size reducer did you use? I was thinking a 12x8 or so

[@anthonymcarthur122]

I have a 4x4x6 propane oven. Do I need to vent in it and put a Resurculating fan in it ?

[@710performance]

We have a vent in ours, that we never open, and we’ve never ran a fan in four years

[@710performance]

With that being said, every oven is different

[@anthonymcarthur122]

I'm having cold spots there is a 40-50 degree difference top to bottom a 12 inch sign that's y I was asking. By the way your videos are fantastic I would not have a clue otherwise so thank you for putting on the learning videos

[@710performance]

@@anthonymcarthur122 I would maybe try a small vent, but with the vent you may need a fan. I’m glad the videos help. Sorry I can’t help you with the issue you are having.

[@anthonymcarthur122]

@710 Performance no problem thanks for all the help

[@exhaustfumes927]

Will that burner get the oven up to 7-800 degrees . I’m trying to build a burn off oven

[@710performance]

levi parker the highest we’ve gotten it is 550° to test it as we have no need to go higher than that.

[@rileyroyer9792]

Subscribed! Im trying to purchase the Inkbird pid kit. Is there a significant difference between the ssr-40 da and the ssr-25 da?

[@710performance]

Thank you for subscribing, we appreciate it! Sorry but we do not know the full difference between the two, but let me see if we can do some research and figure it out!

[@rileyroyer9792]

I guess I’m just trying to see if your wiring setup will wrk with the 40 one! Ha!

[@ParkerOviedo]

You don’t have any issues with your heater introducing dirty air into your oven ?

[@710performance]

No sir we have not. We do sweep it out regularly and we keep things pretty clear from around it.

[@mlc_fab]

I use a 170,000 btu propane heater and my oven will go to 475 in under 7 minutes. 4' wide x 6' deep x 8' tall.

[@710performance]

Awesome 👍

[@edgarask22]

You use propane, butane, or probane-butane mix?

[@mlc_fab]

@@edgarask22 propane

[@itzdhatt7905]

Can please make a video of how u You wired everything?

[@710performance]

We have several oven build videos, IDK idk if you've seen them all, but we do have one that breaks down the wiring, I believe it was this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmLQi3WsitN-qK8

[@mobiusm7440]

What fuel do you use with that salamander?

[@710performance]

Propane

[@vitozingaro6319]

hi guys good video , please were i can buy the termic insulation thanks

[@710performance]

Lowes or Home Depot

[@bubbleztv4576]

Just curious as to how your wiring works bc the green wire is always the ground and you don't have anything grounding out your main green wire. The one in your main black cord.

[@710performance]

It works pretty well, we've been using it for over a year now with no issues.🤷‍♂️

[@dkskater1]

Did you ever have problems with the mr heater fan motor going out due to the high heat? Pretty sure my coil over heated.

[@710performance]

We’ve had it shut off in the summer, but we then wrapped a damp rag around the thermostat and it worked just fine

[@lherout]

Hi, great tutorial indeed. Keep up :) Two questions - since there is no even spreading of the hot air inside the oven - won't be the coated parts heated unevenly (closer will be overheated and further undercured)? Second - you blow the hot air into closed chamber with closed pressure. Therefore within a second the volume of the air coming through the propeller of the heater will be much smaller. Cannot be the heater damaged by this low air stream? thanks

[@710performance]

Have never had an issue with either of those

[@markcothran1954]

Are you only using the low setting on the heater ?

[@710performance]

Mark Cothran yessir

[@eddielane7009]

That was a brilliant explanation and demonstrated video. I'm not as privileged to be able to purchase a heater over 60 to 125 thousand btu as no where I can find in Ireland where I now live... originally from Florida ... so I'm building at present a 10 long x 8 high x 6 wide so do you think if use 2 125btu heaters hooked up to the one pid would work. Regards Eddie 🇱🇷

[@JohnnyDub16]

Try jebb tools in Cork, Eddie. Maybe other places supply them too but the bigger heaters are definitely available in Eire 👍 ☘

[@710performance]

If you are going to go to that big you will probably need at least three or four that got to 125,000 BTU. That oven is about 50% larger than ours.

[@710performance]

Thanks for helping out! 🤙

[@brieflean]

Maybe you can find a way to use propane plus electric heat to make it work ? 🤔

[@eddielane7009]

@@JohnnyDub16 Hi Johnny, I tried every where, I call them up and all they say is I will call the supplier and call you... but never do. I can find them on line but don't say whether or not if it has continuous ignition. Frustrating 😬 I went to cork to jobs and their supplier used to, but now discontinued.

[@nikkothegreat7839]

Dang bro are u a mind reader u always hit exactly what im curious or lost on

[@710performance]

Nikko Thegreat lol we’re not, but we’re glad we can help!

[@richardried4197]

There is no link to the pid controller

[@710performance]

Here’s a link to all of the products we used that are on Amazon along with the pid controller www.amazon.com/shop/710performance

[@richardried4197]

@@710performance thanks bud, your video was really helpful in the building of my oven

[@Bojangles1987]

Thst doesn’t look like insulation found in ovens looks more like walk in cooler insulation . I’m positive non of that insulation is rated for any temps close to what a oven would be rated toward your using fiberglass bath type insulation that wouldn’t handle being exposed to direct heat or 450-550 degreees and will start melting soon after this . This is like the Jerry rig tweaker set up its as simple and ghetto as possible lol what about exhaust gasses

[@710performance]

We you are extremely wrong lol. Been using that insulation since the oven was built over four years ago. I appreciate the feedback, but you should really know what you’re talking about before you comment. 🤣🤣

[@terrycouturier7674]

awesome video what temp can you get your oven 2 with that heater

[@710performance]

we've had it to 550 just to test and that's higher than we'll ever need it.

[@lancebenner5297]

Hey real quick sorry but won’t the air move the powder coat off the products

[@710performance]

No sir, have never had that issue

[@417plasma6]

will 140,000 BTU work for a 4 wide 8 deep 5 tall ?and if so how long will it take to build up to 400 degrees

[@710performance]

Most likely not. We had a 175,000 BTU for our 4x5x7 and it didn’t work very well

[@417plasma6]

@@710performance Thanx i appreciate it...time to get into propane lol just like your set up...thank you again for your response

[@417plasma6]

@@710performance dumb question ever e hear anyone use infrared curing lights for inside the oven to cure powder coating ?

[@khaireddinshehadeh3532]

is the PID On off PID?

[@710performance]

On/Off and temp control

[@kochykoo]

With that MR heater you got heating that box of yours can you change your temp with that digital thermostat???

[@710performance]

yessir

[@kochykoo]

@@710performance how much money you think you spent building a oven like you built

[@710performance]

@@kochykoo We have a video where we broke down the price. For the 4'x4'x5' oven around $1300 to extend it to 8'x4'x4' it was another $800 or so.

[@kochykoo]

@@710performance ill have to check that out. I just started following yall and haven't had time to check out everything y'all been doing. I was looking at your videos on that eastwood gun you got and like how your a straight shooter and your not afraid to try and make something work even when it doesn't

[@710performance]

@@kochykoo Most appreciated. I'm glad you're finding value in our videos. I hope that our old ones as well as our new ones continue to provide that value and entertainment!

[@kurtludwig4783]

Newbe help I’ve been following your KZbin channel for some time. I’m building an Anglia Custom not a Gasser style but late1950 early 1960 in the hands of non Hispanic but has an eye from some of the styling. Anyway getting started with upgrade Eastwood gun, building an oven with propane tornado heater. Powder choices Car frame will be black paint pieces and parts powder coated colors: burnt tangerine and cast aluminum colors. With stainless steel front and rear radius rods What company should I use for tangerine and cast aluminum Thanks, Kurt Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

[@710performance]

Prismatic Powder would most likely be the best

[@kurtludwig4783]

@@710performance thanks

[@710performance]

@@kurtludwig4783 Of course. Tiger Drylac does have some good colors and powder too, but I've only use oranges from Prismatic so I don't have experience with any of Tiger Drylacs oranges. Not to say they're not good, just can't speak on something I haven't used.

[@kurtludwig4783]

@@710performance thanks again

[@Bojangles1987]

Is their any color in your eyes

[@710performance]

🤣🤣🤣

[@plasmaman9592]

I hope and you're more recent videos you fix the volume spikes and lows in your editing software. Some shots you're talking so close to the camera have to turn the volume down and sum you far away and I have to turn the volume up. I have watched far too much KZbin in the last 10 years and as far as I can remember this is the only video I've ever had to do that with

[@710performance]

Thank you for you input. This video is quite a few years old. Back from when we first started. We actually never had anyone tell us this, so it’s good to have feedback 👍

[@Bojangles1987]

You look high man eyes blown out

[@710performance]

420 all day 💨💨💨🤣🤣

[@erickasongo2954]

Congo

[@710performance]

?

[@maddyorlesky6289]

Dude your oven isnt grounded lol you should probably fix that incase something shorts out

[@710performance]

ummm it is, the heater/blower is grounded just like any other Mr. Heater. Not to mention the other ground we have going to our booth, and the fans for the booth. Thanks for the tip, I think we're good.

[@maddyorlesky6289]

@@710performance unless you got different power in the US then I do in canada here (120v 60hertz). the green wire from your black cord that feeds everything should be tapped onto the metal frame of your oven and the green screw on your plugin. Just incase. Right now if your live wire melts thru or somehow touches any metal parts your whole oven is live lol and your breaker won't trip. I'm a journeyman electrician by trade. I pretty much have the same setup on my oven but my ssr is a 40A cuz mine is Electric not propane powered. Not trying to be an a$$ just letting you know 🤙safety first right 😂 🤙love the videos man! Keep it up!

[@droopyd14]

I'm confused on this as well. Typically in my experience black is hot, green is ground, white is neutral. Or am I wrong? You're calling the black wire coming into number 1 the ground. Is that not powering it? And then you're saying the white is the power. The number 2 slot up top is going to the ground on the wall outlet but the green ground wire from the plug isn't even being used. I'm just slightly confused. I want to build my own oven and I don't want to do it wrong.

[@maddyorlesky6289]

@@droopyd14 yes you are right 👍 bang on the money