How to Build a Paludarium: Step by Step

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[@Reptiliatus]

Thanks again for having me on! It was such a pleasure discussing tips/ideas on creating/maintaining one of my favourite types of vivarium!

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Thank you for taking the time to be on the show show, I really enjoyed this conversation!

[@Reptiliatus]

@@AnimalsatHomePodcast for you, anytime! 🙏🏼

[@JikipLoppo]

Anyone else think this video should win an award for creativity?

[@willoliver9036]

Commenting for the algorithm! This definitely deserves to be a bigger channel!

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@lorishantler8399]

Love Tanner serpa design very informative !

[@dshobe720]

Beginning my turtle paludarium today. Great refresher on podcast and KZbin.

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Awesome 🙏🏻 good luck on the build!

[@pierrefitch]

You guys are awesome

[@vids595]

1:28:05 This was well said. These animals should not be considered semi-disposable play things.

[@vids595]

Most common problem I see with paludariums is their sizes. For many species, the water feature is much lower value real estate than the land. So when a considerable portion of a tank is dedicated to a water feature, the the availability of temp and moisture gradients, and hides can be dramatically reduced.

[@Tdiddyx23]

Damn what a killer lineup.. if you could sneak in Brad from brads bioactive builds, Mike tytula (I probably butchered the name lol), and Troy (dart frog dude) with tanner, and Dion that would be the most killer roundtable on literally ever custom build you can think of. Everyone of them have their specialities and have even learned off each other. It’d just be the most fire round table sesh ever.

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

I’m sure they’d all be down! I’ll see what I can do 😎. (And yes you spelled Mike’s name right!)

[@paulwhite9242]

I've seen herp cohab setups cool as all hell but they were *immense* set ups. One of my dreams is a 600-1000 gallon paladrium set up replicating a swatch of the east Texas swamps with musk turtles, green and gray tree frogs, anoles, and maybe rough greens or dekays. With assorted native fish--killifish, pygmy sunfish, etc. It'll never happen--expensive as hell to set up correctly, to the tune of a good used car. I know because I got as far as pricing it out, and I'm not rich enough to do that.

[@MarcusRichardsonRacing]

Really enjoying the content. Going to sub to patroon this Friday to help support. Keep it up!

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Thanks man! 🙏🏻 I appreciate the support!

[@Acolyte7]

So when is part 2 coming :)?

[@michaelsutherland18]

Hell yeah

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Enjoy!

[@LitoRoach]

Currently working on one while this is playing

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Good luck with the build!

[@hefoxed]

Great discussion To provide a counter argument to the cohabbing is for self only: I think all animal keeping is fairly gray/complicated, but I think keeping an animal by itself, while typical and very accepted, is also a very gray area that people should also consider more --- they wouldn't be alone in nature for most part (species dependent), they wouldn't having nothing else moving for the most part (outside of when human is interacting), nothing else providing stimuli. It, as far as I can tell, is based on a fairly simplified view of animal needs -- e.g. safety & food. IIRC a previous podcast guest called this possibly need for more biological feedback. Thus, I only have animals that can at least cohab with other of the same species (e.g. some types of frogs and dwarf geckos) and have cleanup crews for additional stimuli -- tho I don't really think cleanup crews provide that much stimuli. There's species I'd like, but aren't good in groups, so I don't keep them. So, I think it's good to push back on the idea that cohabiting it purely selfish (tho, keeping animals in some respect can be purely selfish -- lot of the money would ethically be better going to preserve environment if the intent was really about doing the most good for the animals).

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Thanks for watching an episode, and very well said!

[@vids595]

So your pushback is based on the notion that cohabiting provides sensory stimulation? Most likely that stimuli would result in minor elevation of stress hormones. Seems like clutching at straws.

[@hefoxed]

​@@vids595 The same thing could be said for your response -- that it's clutching at straws to say that the only result would be stress. Various animal -- leopard geckos, dwarf bearded dragons (ringings?), some frogs -- have social behaviour with members of their own species that have been observed in the wild and can have good interactions with members of other species. In the wild, there's a lot of stimuli and enrichment opportunities -- is it really a stretch to think that maybe putting them in a box where they get very little of that may not be the best for their overall well being? That they might benefit from having social structures with members of their own species and other moving, living beings to interact with and observe? Continuous constant stress can bad, but occasional stress and conflict can be useful for overall well being in humans at least -- our understanding of reptiles is a lot more limited/basic - like we're still have the discussions whether they have feelings akin to our own emotional range. There's a lot of gray areas. For some keepers, exploring those less explored gray areas more and experimenting may improve overall well being. It's of course a risk -- but so is the risk that the current ways of keeping may not be best for overall wellbeing (e.g. risking keeping in an animal in way that they're not enjoying life). If you haven't listened to them, the discussion with wickened wicked reptiles and some podcasts may be worth it for you to watch to consider stuff like this.

[@tidalseaspider6550]

@@hefoxed The biggest difference is that animals in the wild have so much more space to choose their level of interaction with conspecifics. For most animals, it's virtually impossible to provide that amount of space in a home enclosure.

[@vids595]

I understand that Tanner was speaking very casually here but I am disappointed that he said pretty much any frog is suitable for a paludarium. Dendrobate frogs are NOT suitable for paludariums. Even tree frogs that can swim fairly well would get little to no benefit from a paludarium, so I would only consider keeping them in a paludarium if it was large enough to facilitate a water feature that did not come at the cost of terrestrial area.

[@FreshwaterIchthyology]

It is dangerous to promote only topping up, plants deal with waste etc. not water changes. Test kits only deal with a minority of waste, using plants unlike the terrestrial environment is entirely unnatural and there is a lot they wont deal with. Most test kits are really vague but realistically need to be replaced yearly for accuracy. Only topping up is like having a viv with no vents at all but only so often opening them up. I feel this feeds into the aspect that the pet people don't focus on aren't researched. More then often fishes are the accessory unless it's marine. There is more to the tech, Fluval is cheap for a reason. Paludariums have always been a thing in the aquarium hobby but the aquatic side is complex. Hence it's not popular over Ripariums.

[@mobydickii8407]

My next project for my BRB.

[@AnimalsatHomePodcast]

Awesome! 👊🏼