How to Build a Worship Keyboard Rig 2022 | Sunday Keys App In-Depth Look

[@EvanDiDio]

This video is just in time! Didn't see the link in the description for the products though. If you could post that, that would be great! 🔥

[@TerenceChang98]

Yeah they haven’t posted the hardware below always found it usually in the church front toolkit

[@SundaySounds]

Thanks for having us out and for checking out the new Sunday Keys App!🎹

[@bravehart_audiovisual]

Link to the app please

[@SundaySounds]

@@bravehart_audiovisual link is now in the description :)

[@TheMrfuzzyface]

When should we expect the see campus license?

[@dillonhall3344]

literally been waiting for a video like this for almost 10 years

[@WOW46]

you guys are amazing with this app.. everything I wanted years ago you have thought of!! bless y'all!

[@williamy641]

You've sold me. Going to buy an iPad and the app tomorrow. I don't even play keys... I'm a guitarist.

[@russellfragar3952]

So many great features and so much to explore. Great job on the video. I love the access to effects etc. But I started using MainStage and went back to a hardware keyboard for these reasons: 1 we use Multitracks so most of the song-specific sounds are already in there. Yes it makes sense to layer up piano/pad/strings because you can plan them together. You can’t really play the piano part plus a cool organ or guitar part because, put simply, your fingers would be playing different notes at the same time. So all the layering in the world doesn't work then. Let the track or other players cover the other parts. There is a reason that almost all the examples in the video are piano plus pads or strings. Thats what we do most of the time. 2 Any road-warrior will tell you that if you are using a computer or ipad based system you must have a hardware backup for those times when the system hangs up. It will happen. Dont say you weren't lovingly advised, and it is very awkward when it happens haha. Oops no piano. The video references “points of failure”. The fewer pieces in your chain, the fewer points of failure. There is nothing wrong with keeping it simple. It doesnt mean that you are simple, just your rig. And your emotional life. 3 Hardware faders on stage beat a touchscreen every time because you can rest your finger on a fader and feed it in with precision. So you might as well start with one. 4 You can program a hardware keyboard really easily if you read the manual. You aren't stuck with the factory sounds. By the way those sounds were programmed by the best and most experienced in the business. . And usually there will be hundreds of addresses where users can store and recall their creations. Yamaha,Roland, Korg, Privia etc all make great sounding keyboards that have lots of layers (any more than 4 layers is usually mud anyway). It doesn't have to be the $4000 red one, which by the way doesn't do layers nearly as elegantly as you might hope. 5 The presenter mentioned a 5 second recall. In a church service, 5 seconds is an embarrassing eternity. Five seconds is as a thousand years to your pastor. All I’m saying is this- Mainstage sounds great and if it works for you, use it. But dont feel like a failure if you prefer your hardware keys. They work great too. Remember the old saying- tone is in the fingers.

[@SundaySounds]

Hey Russell, glad you enjoyed the video. There's definitely lots to consider with one's approach to the keys rig and user preference is paramount. At the end of the day use the tools that feel most inspiring to you/empowering to your worship team :) We did want to clarify a misunderstanding, point 5 from your comment: Patches are immediately playable when recalled. The five seconds that was mentioned in the video is in reference to how long the previously selected Patch will continue to sustain, if you want it to, so that those transitions are alway seamless :)

[@Ajaykumarr89]

👎👎👎👎

[@danielfmyers]

Even if you haven’t implemented this exact setup, the second half of the video has great tips for song section planning. Also I didn’t know the radial usb di was a thing, and can really clean up your output chain 🙌

[@Yakusoku1]

in 2018 there was a Churchfront video about a peavy usb interface "Peavey USB-P USB Playback" I wonder how that compares to this radial USB DI... it was much less expensive!

[@kylethompson2873]

@@Yakusoku1 I've been using the Peavey USB-P for my CG computer and it works great. I have the Radial on keys but haven't compared them directly on keys.

[@Akashyadav-fe4vj]

I was just looking for this. I am very satisfied with this presentation. Thanks for sharing this helpful video.

[@jongray1606]

Sent my worship pastor this yesterday and we worked on it, and he used it during practice. sounded great!

[@joshpetermann]

Cannot wait to make the switch to the app. Slowly but surely we’ll get our gear swapped. 😅

[@haveajasonday]

May I ask what those vertical lights are called in the background?

[@pkt1213]

Well I have been doing/managing/learning a lot of our tech upgrade and my wife is the pianist so a two-fer.

[@roncoleman5007]

Interesting App.. Thanks for the demo. Any plans on the roadmap to make it dante enabled so we can output each channel to the dante network? the reason i ask is that having the keyboard player mix/balance layers in their IEM's may not translate into the room/FOH or broadcast mix....we (FOH/Broadcast) need to have the flexibility to make adjustments (EQ, level, pan......etc) if needed.

[@citychurchboulder]

What is that little shelf you guys have the iPad on the the usb hub taped under?

[@javier_plumey]

Curious about this as well. We have 7th gen iPads without USB-C, so I'm thinking we need a hub as well.

[@redemptionchurch639]

Absolutely fantastic video. Sunday Sounds App = GAME CHANGER!!!!

[@joshuataliaferro]

This is fascinating! Amazing that we can now use an iPad!

[@TomMacalisang]

what synth app can we use if we only have Android devices?

[@jerriclemons3718]

I love your videos on this channel. I'm a keyboardist at a small (less than 25 members in attendance weekly), and while I have a couple of older keyboards at home the church has a piano and we're starting a praise band with a bass player, a saxophone player and one vocalist plus me. I have a PC at home, and I don't think the church can afford Mac equipment right now. What would you suggest for a Windows PC user? Thanks in advance.

[@alycecristines]

wow, thats exactly what i was looking for live performances. Simple way to organize my sounds, and simple configurations. I tried reason and it is really cool but to much configuration to organize my setlists. Thanks for this video.

[@CalebOlshefsky]

Been wanting to update our keys sounds for awhile. Got two of these rigs implimented already and my keys players are loving it! Thanks for sharing this with us! As a side note, we landed on the M-Audio Hammer 88 Pro as a controller and have been loving it so far. It has all the buttons and knobs you could want that you can then map onto Sunday Keys without the need for an extra controller. Our players found it hard to just use an iPad even though we purchased the bigger ipad pros.

[@ZehrifiedTV]

So...just so I'm clear...that Anker USB hub would accommodate MIDI- USB c- lightning port input on a cheap iPad like mine?

[@djorlando57]

Hey David and Jake . Tremendous video. Hope to see you both at worship innovators conference next month ! Been customizing Mainstage nanokontrol version for a year now and enjoyed being a beta tester for the app. My worship pastor bought it for our Nord and will be planning to set up songs and help train our other beginner/intermediate keyboardists who are only used to playing a piano. Very thorough video. You guys covered it all here. I’m interested if you might ever make a 5th or 6th layer available. Also tonic seems softer than some of the pads , was going to suggest to raise it up about +3db gain overall to match the patches. See you soon ! God bless ! Way to go in creating this. It is Awesome !

[@intact79]

If I already have a midi Control keyboard, why do I need the Nano? I use Arturia MK I Keylab 88 and MK II Keylab 61. Blessings! 😊

[@stevef2114]

inside 2 minutes and you can hear why the so many churches are in serious issue. Its probably no longer praise but idolatry. Praise and worship are too different things. We offer ourselves as living sacrifices holy and pleasing to God.. this is our spiritual act of WORSHIP. Singing on a sunday is PRAISE. Its about loving God and enjoying all he is. Church is awash with the world... the enemy has blinded so many to what God loves and wants from his people. Ive gone to so many churches will all the sounds and all the lights and God isnt there. IVe been in the back and beyond in the Ukraine, and God came powerfully, with 1 man singing with a beat up guitar, and in most places with nothing. No instruments, no PA. So many are deceived because its all about feelings and emotion, an experience to be had. So many need to repent and start offering true praise.

[@dianebrown5914]

My name is Diane and I am totally blind. I love the sounds in this App. However, Is this App voiceover compatible? Voiceover is what blind people use to read the screen. This is NOT SIRI. I know I probably can't use it on stage because of the voice but it would still be great to use at home. Thanks so much for reading this. 😂

[@jccolon-mendez661]

Why nobody can answer me this question? Can you have at the same time open the Sunday Sounds app and the Word app? To read the songs and playing at the same time.

[@matthewmiller2062]

So Pumped to use this!!!! Thank you guys!!!!!

[@dave76920]

can you use onsong while using sundaykeys?

[@caleblaryea2019]

This is great 💪🏼app, we'll be glad to have it on android and windows as well just so those who use these platforms can have access to it. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@thisperson6146]

Is the iPad app different than the Sunday keys app? I bought the Sunday keys app over a year ago but its on my MacBook pro. Can I use the same app and transfer it to the iPad? If so, how? Thanks in advance.

[@somethingfun-321]

Love these video's and using Sunday Keys! please add the links to the products in the description.

[@Churchfront]

links are there now!

[@loicdurager5724]

I’ve watched hours of videos and tNice tutorials one is the first that explains it in a way a complete beginner could understand! Great video

[@halvardlund4782]

It is provoking that you recommend M-Audio. It is always known to be the worst keys of all the brands out there. You cannot be serious.

[@Indragunawanss]

My friend wants to ask, for applications on the iPad, it's just a one-time payment for forever, right?

[@irlmusic5690]

Are there mute buttons in addition to the sliders? If you wanted to go from 5 patches to solo piano it would be a breeze instead of moving 4 sliders. If not can you use the nanokontroller to allow muting? Also are there scenes you can save for every song with multiple layers?

[@ewrightphoto]

Snap shots will be perfect for that! For example on snap shot 1 u want 5 sounds, snap shot 2 - just piano. It's just a press of a botton!

[@shantellet5272]

Terrible customer experience, bought Sunday keys two weeks ago and still waiting for them to send me an email for my acces code , been trying to email with no reply at all, how frustrating

[@jnaoolle6170]

Hello Team, Just wanted to find out if an android or Windows version of the app will be released. Some of us in the world Don't have access to apple products

[@cush-jimcushman-musicvideo7853]

Could you please post a wiring diagram of the gear you recommended so we could see your hookup of the midi and audio interfaces . Thanks.

[@niumedia_production]

you guys gotta get away from from the mindset that Volunteer dont know much...

[@mikeyfitsandiego]

My SL88 is not responding or communicating with my Sunday Key pad app

[@ptortland]

The Studiologic SL88 Studio is $529; the SL88 Grand Hammer Midi Controller is double that, $1049. So they're not the same price!

[@RevJorgeDiaz]

Thought they mentioned the M-Audio Hammer 88.

[@morgansimpson315]

You could also consider buying a nice older stage piano like a Yamaha P250 for $750-900 dollars.

[@ptortland]

@@RevJorgeDiaz Yep, you're right. My bad.

[@RevJorgeDiaz]

@@ptortland no worries brother!

[@dimasteraputrahernawan4322]

All tNice tutorials these " beginner " videos go way to fast and assu you already know stuff.

[@thebenman8657]

Is there anyway to buy individual sounds without the yearly subscription?

[@ZachHord]

I can't seem to get the M audio hammer 88 to show up on the iPad :(. Don't tell me I need the Midi to usb cable!

[@WilliamDeCleveland]

Is it a 2023 update video like this one coming ???

[@josiahley11]

Would I be crazy to consider selling our churches Nord Electro 6 in favor for this type of setup? I feel like the Nord is criminally under-utilized 😆

[@SundaySounds]

Hey Josiah, the App is designed with volunteers in mind, we think it opens a lot of doors for keys players to really take ownership of what their rig can do.

[@rexgorman9561]

I have the same thought about our Nord Stage 3. It's probably easier to fly a 747. Blindfolded.

[@josiahley11]

@@rexgorman9561 haha! I play electric guitar and am pretty gear savvy and the Nord interface has been challenging to master…hard to expect volunteers to feel confident with it

[@Bethel_aog]

Does “not at all” ring a bell 😆😆🤣

[@drummerboyjohnson380]

@@josiahley11I don’t feel confident with the nord at all😭

[@danielvargas3192]

Are there only sounds for worship or are there also sounds for praise and fast and happy songs?

[@deancol4080]

Radial stuff is great but Audiobox $100usd + Direct Box $30usd works fine for my needs.

[@Chayildesignstudio]

Hello! Does the sundaysounds work with macbook air? Currently we dont have Ipad.

[@ewrightphoto]

yep.

[@reggiegraham6996]

This would be great if I could assign each sound to a different controller. I play 2 keyboards with many parts I play bass horns and other parts.😢

[@ewrightphoto]

you can split your keyboard to play different sounds and transpose them up or down an octave or two. The snap shot also works well with that, (snap shot 1 playing sound 1, snap shot 2 playing sound 2, and so on)

[@michaelolaleye5215]

Can I use the SK Mainstage IPad App with Dreamfoot App, and using the Irigblueboard bluetooth connectivity for midi control? I am hoping someone would tell me its possible and tell me how (PLEASE!)

[@allisterrenaud776]

Great vid once again . 👏 with th iPad what would you recommend in terms of specs is the lowest we can go...eg memory, ram ...not sure if it was mentioned...thanks

[@taxivestvest3494]

Can we pls have this for Android users?

[@thechurchatcw]

I have purchased all my stuff but have an issue. I bought the anker series 3. I have 2 usb a ports. One is going to the nano controller and the other is going to midi in/out on the keyboard. I dont have another usb a port to send signal to my usb pro radial. Will a usb c to usb B cable work for this?

[@sethb1059]

David (or anyone that knows), does the app send led data to nanokontrol2? I went into Korg editor, set the buttons to toggle and set common led mode to external. The buttons are toggling as expected but no status LED. Thanks! Edit: *Jake. Lol I forgot this was a Churchfront video not a Sunday Sounds video

[@danielsmith211]

@ChurchFront What iPad holder do you recommend? I'm looking for one that goes straight onto the mic stand. Rig looks great - looking forward to trying Sunday Keys asap.

[@michaelolaleye5215]

Is it compulsory to have an audio interface/device between the iPad and mixer? As my IPad’s Audio is from a 3.5mm small jack that can plug directly into the mixer.

[@ryanbautista885]

what type of tape are you using for your cables?

[@peterlodo1605]

can I get midi app on my Android phone to the keyboard

[@shanndumas]

Hey ! This may seem like a silly question (I’m a newbie). But I’m looking into this rig for at home worship. My keys have built in speakers, will this all still work? Also, does this app have the ability to transpose? I wasn’t sure

[@noelbalita8262]

example. Anyway, tNice tutorials video is very simple and helpful, thanks mate!

[@ncdewber]

What cable do you use out of the keyboard? I have midi in and out and usb outs on my keyboard - what is best?

[@ewrightphoto]

I use USB out on my keyboard

[@LehmannDrummer]

Where do I find a the sunday keys?

[@elmaster87]

Is there a way to do the same for the guitar!?

[@onepro1234]

Awesome video thanks for sharing. Can you share what you are using to mount the IPad and the midi controller to the keyboard. Thanks again God bless you all and your ministries.

[@jcmediauganda]

Can you link the setuper channel, soft and track, so you don't have to color and rena 3 tis ? Btw aweso video!

[@KiezzerEvasco]

What app would be used or download in android ??

[@giovannisilagan1090]

hello is the ipad air 2 can run sunday keys app?

[@kirannani4044]

After buying this app ..need to pay monthly subscription???

[@nemanjapudar201]

You should mention Gig Performer. There is a 40 mins tutorial for worship music.

[@henrygomezcruz6016]

Does that app work with any type of piano?

[@Technical_kamboj]

uninstalled and then again reinstalled, do you know what might have happened to them ?!

[@gilbertmanalili5924]

What charger are you using?

[@jammer777]

What do you think about using a Nektar Impact LX88?

[@jerrykjt]

Awesome app. Its everything I've dreamed of having. If arranger functions are also added like rhythm & accompaniment, then it would even more awesome !!

[@zingaali5642]

nice tuto Saved , tNice tutorials should be a lot Nice tutorialgher. Thank you.

[@haizeaflores1268]

version fine? Also are the extra plug-ins worth the extra $100?

[@asdasdasd23e]

choose to keep the loop playing in any order, DJ's will love tNice tutorials.

[@andrewcjeffrey]

When will you be offering the product to Microsoft Windows users?

[@designerbucket2038]

Im trying to use soft soft to make an FNF mod and tNice tutorials is really helping!

[@precillasmediadxb6911]

Been waiting for this for 18 years finally thank you so much

[@tassiespirit]

Good sales pitch.

[@marcosaurelio9497]

What kind iPad is it? Air 7 gt

[@MonkeyDLuffy-fj4pt]

This is great. One question I have tho is how much space do the saved patches occupy on the iPad?

[@OptimaMrL]

Touchscreen in a live setting is a no-go for me. It's good that we can use a tactile controller

[@Culturelens]

How many keyboard can I connect to just one iPad for sound at the same time?

[@naghmehsalimi2991]

you know that by now tho

[@fvillarrealg]

The app looks awesome. I am mostly a Guitar Player. It is possible to integrate this app with Midi Guitar App?

[@chinchintaberu1601]

What do I do if I accidentally clicked x and there is just a fruit on the screen

[@jammer777]

How much memory is needed on the ipad to load Sunday keys?

[@onepro1234]

Thanks for sharing can the sounds in the app be used with a guitar rig?

[@tadman3]

Any thoughts on a MPC one as a midi centre/ pad synth

[@Chris-4_19]

As always, your information was to the point and very helpful. Thank you

[@mtccadence1003]

Thanks! I need tNice tutorials a ga im making

[@tristoncantor9074]

Since most bands play via MIDI into a laptop (or an iPad in this case), why do we still see so many Nords on stages? They are basically spending thousands of dollars on a MIDI controller then right?

[@stephenwillet4075]

It's trendy. Many modern, especially progressive, churches want to have that trendy look. That "Red" keyboard is noticeable from KZbin videos of CCM bands. Now that keyboard is a good one, especially for high end professional users. I prefer Yamaha personally for its functionality and feel, but some people care about looks

[@CortezBurt]

Is there a way to use an interface that has more than two outs? That way, if you add some kind of key bass, you could run it out of a separate output

[@SundaySounds]

The App only supports a single stereo output for now, but we plan to add support for multiple outputs in the future! No set timeline for that just yet.

[@JCox964]

Download the app AUM , which will allow you to use a separate (multiple)channel.

[@johannesjeising6772]

@@SundaySounds Thanks for this awesome piece of software! Is there also a plan or a way how to deal with click? Two things come to my mind: Providing click to the other band members (which would require an addtional output channel) and syncing the click to an backing track from Ableton. Would love to hear your thoughts!

[@SundaySounds]

@@johannesjeising6772 For now the App doesn't feature a built in click, but you can set the BPM per Patch to ensure your time based effects are in-synch with your band. We do plan to add a metronome and multi-out support in the future, no set timeline for that yet :)

[@joeljohnson9583]

Would the m-audio air hub work with this to be both a hub and interface in one

[@Simakos71]

Great video! Is there a plan to develop an app for Android as well?

[@blessedson69]

Great video!!! What's the name of the colored light?