Worship Tech Tour | The Belonging Co. Episode 3 - Keys and Tracks

[@riannichols6490]

This is incredible! I'd love to see some more details about how they side chain the click and run it to the keys for arps and other moving synths, as well as how they program Ableton to really allow for the spontaneity. Very cool.

[@virginiusmaximus7006]

I'm not sure how they would be doing it, but I can give you an idea on how I would do it. What you can do is put a kick drum on every beat and have every thing sidechained to that, but keep it on mute, so you don't actually hear it, then just run the click as you would normal. A lot of producers, including myself, do this without the click running in their tracks of they want something to keep the sidechain going while the kick of whatever it is they're sudechaining to, has been taken out for a period of time in the production. Hope that helps.

[@sangkong9738]

There aren't too many ways to do the sidechain. The click serves as the sidechain for a compressor that is running after the synth. The level of the click will drive how much pumping you get from the compressor. You could also send the click into a compressor in front of an FX bus to give you pumping with say reverb or delay. Lots of creative possibilities. This is pretty common in the EDM world. At least this is my interpretation of what he was talking about. Pretty complex for a church set-up and honestly not going to be able to hear most of it live with the washiness of the room, but it is also feeding a recording. I really liked the idea of capturing midi from the setup as well as using the HPF to bring in tracks instead of just volume. Cool stuff.

[@Jleveq94]

Agreed! I use Ableton every week but we're really struggling on how to practically be able to flow easily using Ableton and no one really explains how they do that. Would love to see how they actually flow in a set!

[@virginiusmaximus7006]

@@Jleveq94 put everything you want to sidechain into a group, then a kick drum on every beat outside of that group, and put it on mute. Put a compressor on the group channel, and have it sidechain to the channel you've put a kick and muted, then adjust the threshold to how much you want it to drop for the kick drum which is going at the same speed at the click. You can also adjust the release for how long it will take to get back to full volume after each beat. Otherwise, if you want more control, you can skip putting them all into a group, and do the same, and adjust each individual thing you want to sidechain to be the right amount.

[@justinwu7495]

@@sangkong9738 what if the click is on 8th notes but I only want my sidechain compressing on quarter notes?

[@TheBridgeSets]

Such a great job! The Belonging Co. is an incredible church and Evan is hands down the real deal!

[@lesmcc8103]

Wow, there’s so much going on behind the scenes that most people never think about or know about

[@goodbyetiktok2697]

tracks as an instrument mind blown

[@NotOfficialJosh]

I love this church so much. All I wanna do is serve there! Im a huge worship nerd. I need to visit!

[@iConnectivitySupport]

We appreciate the love!

[@sangkong9738]

You guys deserve it. You have some awesome products for pro use cases.

[@adamfb79]

Really looking forward to next episode, I keep checking everyday.

[@alexcooper3911]

Wow. This is stunning. Thanks for sharing this Jake.

[@LuiggySantiago]

Nice video! Would be cool to get the OSC template .

[@Cadet44642]

I love it. That setup is so sweet.

[@NewLifeMassillon]

Good stuff! Will be forwarding to our tracks sound tech.

[@hairman49er]

Love it. Wonder if we could see it all done live with the tracks.

[@hellothereimjosh]

Yes! it would be great to see a full session hearing what the MD/tracks person is hearing... I absolutely love that they have it where tracks follow the band flow, and not the other way around.

[@mhediseltana]

Amazing. Great work.

[@andrewbrooks6334]

Excellent job, Evan!

[@WRNVAN]

Love this! Thanks for sharing

[@JHJOwen]

Love my OWC hub!

[@roderickjmusic]

This is AMAZING! Kind of complex 😅 but INCREDIBLE! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@mrpaman_Kwon]

everytime. really really great information. thanks.

[@TheSeeking2know]

Very knowledgeable.

[@nahumpena1152]

Excellent, thanks

[@TrunxKraft3000]

This is great and very interesting. I have a serious question though. Why have musicians if you’re going to be running so many stems?

[@elioncampbell5745]

It could be limited players and of such each musician can't pull of every single thing in the song in a live setting so most likely they'll run stems to full and complete the space and make it sound like they were a lot of musicians playing at once....

[@TrunxKraft3000]

@@elioncampbell5745 Hmm

[@MarcelloFarias]

MAgnifico, mesmo sabendo que isso ainda é um sonho impossivel pra nossa realidade no Brasil nós aprendemos muito aqui e oramos e estudamos pra esse tempo de excelencia tecnica ser executado por aqui. Coisa linda de ver! Parabens!

[@dakotawagner]

We need the bass rundown 😩

[@langstongant]

Love the video. Appreciate the insight. Are you able to speak more into how you specifically do a sidechained click for the band? Also, is someone else monitoring Ableton off stage?

[@lakersmaniac8]

@churchfront next a drum gear/tech tour!

[@finnrowden3341]

Love it

[@matthewsnyder8746]

Any chance we can get a copy of their touchOSC template? I'd love to reverse engineer some of that stuff

[@bonganimculo101]

We need a break down first. Then part 2..... Then pls consider a series........ CoZ this is jus too much to absorb... And sounds very amazin.......

[@PhotoTechVisionary]

Does anyone happen to know the ipad holder that is hooked up to the keys rig? That is something I can actually use as well. Thanks in advanced!

[@gleannmhuire]

Got a mic there for You Know Who in case he turns up?

[@calebrabion]

Looks like rocket science to this ol country boy lol. And to think, I'm intimidated just thinking about upgrading to Sunday Keys and Ableton.

[@Blessedfamilymama]

I use MainStage and Sunday keys. Works pretty good! Easy to learn and they have videos.

[@higorrezende59]

im love digico

[@KyleMeares1]

Do you know what settings they're using on the pads or what the synths are based on. That's the biggest thing that changes church to church is the pads that they're primarily running

[@landonarnold8486]

Does anyone happen to know the rack case they are using with the tracks rig?

[@PeterReesvan]

The pads are actually being played.

[@MichaelHari]

Great rundown! How does the team come back into flow if Ableton is in arrangement view though? Do you guys not utilize session view for this?

[@johnfalco]

You can drop markers on each section and go back to whatever part you want on the fly when using arrangement view.

[@jonathancardenas5252]

I’m just trying to guess the number of cables need to go into board!?

[@josephmarc419]

When is the next part coming out

[@joeyjojoshabbadoo8153]

What are those lights behind you at 00:42?

[@Serge_17]

Whats the name of that piece that is on the talk back mic ?

[@Proffkeys_159]

Wowwwwwwwww 🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️

[@MiguelReyes-sx1vs]

My brain hurts right now..... Very complex but that complexity of the Tracks answers the question of "Can you be spontaneous with click and track?" and the answer is YES -- Jake Hint Hint New Video or maybe a new module to the Ableton class - - How to be spontaneous with with Click and Track.

[@atharahanove3878]

what's the purpose of the sound guy beside the stage.. mixing some stuff is that the FOH mixing?.. thanks

[@christopherjones409]

He’s mixing the in ear monitor personalized for the band.

[@TechCondo]

Cool! I do have an unrelated question though: anybody know what screen (panels) they are using as background

[@bmrodgers148]

It's a high res LED Wall. I Think it's from here (thorav.us/led-panels/) but I'm sure it will be covered later in the series.

[@TechCondo]

@@bmrodgers148 thanks

[@curious011]

why are we projecting images of the band and singers behind the singers? What part of worship is the "look at us play" screen?

[@fkmobile1]

Is that a mic preamp connected to the mic on the stand? Which model?

[@vladbondarenko7015]

It’s an optogate pb-05 It’s a IR based noise gate

[@michaelsimons412]

🤯🤯🤯👏👏👏

[@CompassionWF]

What was the ipad app running the midi?

[@bmrodgers148]

TouchOSC

[@marclewism]

Jake can I get a Heart Emoji?

[@Churchfront]

only if I get a like in return

[@marclewism]

I love your videos jake!!😊

[@ArthurPrince03]

0:31 thought that was charlie puth for a good moment

[@vidkid1067]

Ay

[@christianmessenger3740]

First

[@curious011]

what if a church doesn't want to do the tech thing and just wants traditional services? are they supposed to aspire to this? I think American is a place of extremes and this is an evangelical extreme. What if we don't want rock bands and supposed worship services that are basically performances?

[@eddiecarrizales]

Well the church can set that vision so the answer is that you can do whatever works for you. There’s a place for everyone somewhere.

[@abdielgarcia3583]

Then they can do that. No one is stopping them. This man creates content for people and ministries that have the desire to increase their technical elements and want to learn how to accomplish that.

[@sharonraizor2839]

I live near a church that uses piano, organ and choir. They are running about 2400 on Sundays and it sounds great in there. Others want the contemporary worship and the production. People find what appeals to them. I am somewhere in the middle. My church is all live and would never use tracks. If some do, that's fine with me.

[@curious011]

@@eddiecarrizales Here's the issue with modern Churches with big tech--usually only singing songs from one of three sources. It has directly copied Hillsong, Bethel and Elevation----steven furtick has claimed that HE is God is one recent sermon. Bethel believes that you can lay on graves to get the dead's anointing and that gold dust comes out of heaven and falls on the crowd. How does this theology square with the Bible?-it doesn't at all. Why are we emulating Churches that teach things that are either totally not Biblical or sometimes heretical? Why would we copy their music? That directly supports them everytime we post their lyrics. they get royalty credit.

[@curious011]

@@abdielgarcia3583 So we compel people to give 10% of their money (actually we force them to or they can't be members) to fund this? Turning church into theaters and concert halls is big money and we put that load on the members. The Jesus in the actual scriptures would have condemned this. I don't know what God they profess to serve but it's not the one in the Bible.