How To Build an 85-89 250R Motor W/ Dave Moore - Part 1 - Center Cases and Transmission

[@davemooreracing]

Thank you everyone. Here's a little extra tip for you. Young or immature builders wont show you how to fix something because there "secrets" make them money. The reason older experienced builders dont do videos like this is they dont have the time to waste showing you how to do something the way they do it just to read a bunch of comments like "Well my buddy built 1 motor in the last 25 years and he did not do it that way" or "Well i just dont think it should be done that way". We have spent all our lives learning how to work on these motors and i for one dont want to die off with out passing on what i have learned. Michel is doing you a great service by showing you how things really work and if the people of this channel are respectful and learn then i can tell you that other builders from my day who have done incredible things with the 250R would be more then happy to do an interview and some teaching for this channel.

[@QuadGuyCy]

Absolutely true Dave! Thank you sir for taking the time to do this!

[@BlueNoseParaCanoe]

Thank you Dave! Honestly the stuff you came up with makes a fast motor reliable not a hand grenade

[@ceaserthethird]

Dave thank you for passing on your knowledge to the ATC / TRX 250R community. ( Please consider passing more of your knowledge and doing these types of videos in the future for us 2 strokes loyalist.) Thank you

[@MichaelSabo]

Well said Dave; I'm happy to be working together on this with you!

[@garywilliamscornwall]

The community needs this! The next generation will know something better in keeping their r's alive. Thank you both for putting this together. What a great set of videos this will be

[@SVTBansheeman]

This channel is proof that subscriber count doesn't equal quality. Great video and channel.

[@MichaelSabo]

That's an awesome compliment man; thank you!

[@refiii9499]

Can’t question dave and his knowledge when it comes to the 250r engine. He loses more 250r knowledge in one morning sh*# than all of us will ever know. He’s been a great guy for the R community.

[@MichaelSabo]

Haha very true man!

[@HondaATC330R]

This is the best 250R build series on the net. Nice work. I'd love to head over and lend a hand.

[@charlessmith6696]

Dave Moore, Arlan, and Rob are some of the best in the business!

[@MxShee]

Dave is a natural! i wish he would do a video like this for a banshee motor!

[@MichaelSabo]

I like this idea

[@ni_wink84]

That was really cool to see how easily he put those case halves together, I guess when you have been doing it for years it’s pretty much second nature at that point! Great video can’t wait to see the rest of the build

[@MichaelSabo]

Nick W thank you for watching! 🤘

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for watching man! 🤘 Video 2 - Clutch and Stator Side Assembly - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKmcaIalq9ScrLs Video 3 - Top End Assembly - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZyrmJhtj85gr5o Video of This Motor Running - kzbin.info/www/bejne/maXYoZ1_qaehfq8 Chapters 0:00 - Intro/Who is Dave Moore 3:43 - Installing the Crank 5:49 - Engine Setup in Stand 6:57 - Installing the Transmission 11:15 - Installing the Second Case Half 13:40 - Installing the counter balancer holder and case bolts 14:05 - Installing the Countershaft Seal and Collar Tools in this Video Crank puller/Installer - bit.ly/3kBXDCr Case Splitter - bit.ly/3dNh3D4 Engine Stand - bit.ly/2Tg3J1T

[@chaneybruton2912]

Best atv content on KZbin and it just keeps getting better! Keep up the good work man. Also Dave seems like a really awesome dude, full of knowledge and ability but not stingy with it and very eager to share it with others. Doesn’t belittle someone just because they don’t know as much as him. Keep on rockin it👍🏻

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you man! And I think your assessment of Dave is pretty spot on!

[@bretts8430]

@@MichaelSabogutsy move putting a motor u built that didn’t perform as expected. Good on ya mate, I’ll show my boys this and show them even a top operator can learn and here you are showing kids you’ve got the bones to watch and learn from an expert. Well done gents

[@notoriousbige281]

I’m building a 86 bottom end with long rod crank assembly with the 86 style piston, but all the different variations and different combinations on how you can build these engines is amazing you have so many options.. one thing with being my first 250r engine ( ive built many 2t-4t engines on quiet a few different machines) there’s isn’t a lot of comprehensive information on them so thank the both of you for sharing this knowledge!

[@MichaelSabo]

You know, we never really touched on the differences with the long rod and short rod and that can definitely get confusing. Glad you're enjoying these videos; thanks for watching!

[@cbr600rrturbo]

love the vid, we need to make a statue of Dave

[@250rtrxjunkie]

We can put all the great heads on it and name it mount 250r more, lol

[@MichaelSabo]

HAHAHAHAHA Mount-Trike-More

[@roadgliderider1]

Passing on the knowledge. Much appreciated. Dude all your videos had me rebuild a 87 TRX250X better then factory.

[@MichaelSabo]

That's awesome to hear man! I'm glad I could inspire you

[@chadriddle3517]

Super cool video mike ! You got a winner with that guy he knows exactly what he is doing !! Thanks for sharing

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@BDauto86]

I can't wait to see the top end. He sure made the bottom end look easy.

[@commentpulling]

Dave just makes it look so easy. Knowledge is power.

[@MichaelSabo]

That is the truth man

[@kjohns236]

Thank you gentlemen! I have a motor to put back together and this is going to be a huge help!!!!

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad we could help man! Best of luck!

[@StupidFastJohn]

BRO, this is incredible! Dave has me speechless, amazing work guys! 👊

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for watching as always John!

[@Junior-fd8ux]

Iv know about engine building stand for the past cpl- few years. After watching this man do i need one in a bad way. The 2x4 box isnt cutting the mustard anymore lol. Awesome work. Dave seems to be the real deal but very humble which makes it an easy watch.

[@MichaelSabo]

That's very true man and exactly why I like Dave so much!

[@Peedarb]

This is invaluable knowledge, thanks Dave for your mentorship!

[@topnotchbarbertv9523]

Im about 3 min in and Dave has me at the edge of my seat great video brother

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad you liked it man! Thank you

[@polishoskar2039]

Dave seems like the most genuine guy ever, most engine builders would laugh you off about doing a video for your KZbin imo

[@MichaelSabo]

Dave is definitely exceptional among the exceptional in my opinion!

[@polishoskar2039]

@@MichaelSabo im in UK and for some reason I keep getting your Facebook profile as people you may know haha 😂

[@Quadcrazy84]

We've all been waiting for this

[@MichaelSabo]

Chris Motte thank you for watching! 🤘

[@sethnelson8698]

Cant wait to see the finished product, at long last.

[@MichaelSabo]

If you haven't seen it running, here's the link! kzbin.info/www/bejne/maXYoZ1_qaehfq8

[@craigbuscio8167]

Dave makes it look easy.

[@Bikeliferizzo]

Super cool dude u can tell he knows everything about that motor so cool to watch 🙌💯‼️

[@sckubba52]

Man you always have me in suspense. I want to see more bro.

[@MichaelSabo]

Part 2 will be up today!

[@ononewheel7]

Love that custom crank puller! And his engine stand is a nice piece as well! Great video!

[@duneracerweston]

Beautiful as always Michael!

[@MichaelSabo]

Thanks for all the help making the videos man!

[@milanstepic5454]

Thanks for putting the effort to spread all the awesome tricks and knowledge!

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MichiganQuadTrailsTales]

That was A Very Informative Video! I don't even have A 20 R, but it is always great to watch and Learn From Someone who has been doing this for a long time do something like this. Looking Forward to the next ones!

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad you enjoyed it! A lot of this can be applied to many motors.

[@carlcjs316]

A 9 mile wheelie?! I love this guy! I thought a 2 mile wheelie on my LTR was badass

[@MichaelSabo]

2 miles is still badass bro, I'm working on 2 yards

[@28wonton1]

Awesome info. Thanks for putting this stuff out mike, makes me feel better about pulling apart my motor knowing that there’s a video on how to put it back together.

[@MichaelSabo]

Hell yea man! I'm glad these videos help!

[@mikehussey7021]

Dave is the man. Guy is the wizard lol

[@danielcastelow7523]

Thanks Mike love watching videos like this I ready for the part 2 an 3 keep up the great work man your doing great

[@MichaelSabo]

Daniel Castelow thank you for watching! 🤘

[@danielcastelow7523]

@@MichaelSabo your welcome Mike

[@desertquad1807]

Good video. Dave truly is a wizard

[@CosmosArchipelago]

Keep up the great content, brother.

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you Ernie Crabmilk!

[@Morrison_Builds]

Man I need to make an engine stand like that for my blaster motors!

[@jonmelvin5682]

Great to see how a real builder does it without all the hogwash you see guys doing nowadays

[@davemooreracing]

Thank you.

[@jonmelvin5682]

No sir thank you Dave would love to see more of you and Mike working together

[@michaelsimon5877]

K my God I love learning more about this

[@tylershore6478]

Sweet Mike! Can’t wait to see how it turns out👍

[@MichaelSabo]

You can see it running here man! kzbin.info/www/bejne/maXYoZ1_qaehfq8

[@tylershore6478]

@@MichaelSabo Thanks man! Sounds great

[@TheDillio187]

Crazy Dave strikes again.

[@davemooreracing]

You have to be an old timer to remember that name lol.

[@MichaelSabo]

Hahaha

[@TheDillio187]

Oh yea...I was once your chauffeur through the upper Midwest in a race prepped 2wd s10.

[@davemooreracing]

@@TheDillio187 I really thought i was going to die LOL.

[@TheDillio187]

@@davemooreracing I showed your ass! bahahaha

[@michaelsimon5877]

Smart man holy shit I can tell by him talking man of great knowledge

[@lanniewiant8269]

This is so bad ass man thank you so much for this vid

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you as always for watching Lannie!

[@big_mike_nyc]

Holy shit what an awesome video! Dave seems like such a cool extremely knowledgeable guy and asset to the 250R community!! That engine stand made me drool! I CANNOT WAIT to see the rest! 😎😎😎😎😎

[@MichaelSabo]

Big_Mike NYC thank you for watching! 🤘

[@toddjohnson7601]

Awesome video can't wait for the other videos

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you Todd Johnson!

[@jarodbamm2996]

I'm looking forward to you making the 400ex good looking😍🔥

[@THEDUKELOVER]

Thanks for the knowledge guys keep up the awesome work

[@garywilliamscornwall]

This is awesome. Can't wait for the other bits. Can you go into detail in the water pump seal? And into jetting and setup of the carb? Would love some 2 stroke knowledge there

[@Rugsadventures]

Great video little late today sorry I went out for a ride today. New video of ride just uploaded if your interested. But I love your channel definitely very knowledgeable.

[@MichaelSabo]

Checked it out man, that tunnel was cool!

[@Rugsadventures]

@@MichaelSabo Thank you! That's snow shoe Pa. Great riding.

[@austinsoderberg8216]

This is awesome. Really helpful for when I do my 250r motor. I REALLY wish there was a re assembly video for the tri z motor. I’m afraid I’m gonna put my tri z motor together wrong

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you man; a Tri-Z isn't out of the question for a future series but I don't know when that would be.

[@shawnbroussard1215]

Awesome video, thanks!

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad you liked it!

[@Mroffroad353]

Love these videos 🙌

[@MichaelSabo]

More to come!

[@KAMP8505]

I need to find a 250R project after my banshee is finished.

[@250rtrxjunkie]

Straight legit 💯

[@MichaelSabo]

Thanks as always bro!

[@dubbedmodz7253]

Awesome series bro, thanks so much...so interested

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you bro! 🤘

[@keithparady2594]

Damn u lucky bastard lol killing it with ur videos

[@MichaelSabo]

Lol, thank you for watching them man!

[@Coolkitty639]

Good job gentlemen

[@bricehale6593]

This is awesome 👌

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you Brice Hale!

[@thrashigan2520]

Awesome video

[@MichaelSabo]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@250R4life]

Thanks for this video definitely about to buy a practice motor

[@MichaelSabo]

Good idea man! 250R4life thank you for watching! 🤘

[@erikurrea7477]

Nice.........Nice.....👏

[@eriksforestryvision8751]

Awesome!

[@blobcsgo7190]

Cool custom tools!

[@charlessmith6696]

I looked up this video once before and watched part of it. I'd like to ask Dave M. one question now that I'm in the process of needing to build three Honda TRX250R engines, one for my Arens chassis, LED 310 GNCC race quad, 2nd is for my 86 TRX250R that has had the stock cylinder re-sleeved by LA Sleeve 295cc sleeve, a 3rd cause I'm selling a 86 TRX250R to a teenager that works on a buddy's farm. I was out of the 250R game from 03' - 20'. I've put many 250R engines together in the past, and I'm sure if Dave saw me assembling some in the past, he'd most Iikely file criminal charges against me for abuse and neglect of 250R engines. I want to build them to much higher standard than I had in the past. And one question I have is- How do you (Dave Moore) put the bearings in the engine halves? I've heard many suggestions and everyone has their own opinion. Me, in the past did it on a Shop Press. But I've heard some people say i shouldn't do it that way because I am removing material from the bearing journal. Is that true? Or is it just fine. What is your prefference on Engine bearings? OEM or other manufacture, recommendations of which supplier's product you recommend if not OEM. Thanks for repoending

[@skeetlybeet2584]

Two videos in 2 days?!?! You know how to spoil your subscribers sabo!!!

[@MichaelSabo]

Haha, glad you're enjoying them!

[@bobbywitcher5042]

nice job!

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you bobby witcher!

[@shaun88R]

Great tips from a legend. 👍

[@MichaelSabo]

That's for sure Shaun!

[@connersnow298]

Love your vids

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you bro! 🤘

[@chadcollins9139]

So helpful thanks sabo and moore

[@MichaelSabo]

Most welcome bro! Thanks for watching!

[@hennessyremy4970]

U the mannn mike Sabo!!!!

[@raymocandler]

Is Dave also the one making billet 250r cases?

[@davemooreracing]

yes

[@joshbeck289]

Dam I beat my cases together hope my cranks not out of balance lol

[@magik7800]

Love the content 👌

[@MichaelSabo]

magik7800 thank you for watching! 🤘

[@johnnybravo6829]

Sick!

[@braddurham3094]

I been waiting for this

[@MichaelSabo]

Brad Durham thank you for watching! 🤘

[@robertwilson5747]

Wow he is amazing he looked at a washer behind the sprocket and he knew who made it haha amazing

[@MichaelSabo]

I think what was most impressive was when he built the trans off the top of his head which was off camera. It was literally all apart in pieces haha.

[@robertwilson5747]

I’m jealous you were taught by a legend not to many people can say that

[@trentonkirby4620]

Great content

[@MichaelSabo]

Trenton Kirby thank you for watching! 🤘

[@riimit]

Why you dont put grease into the crankshaft seal? Is it a ptfe seal?

[@willbianco8931]

Can't wait he made that look too easy lol

[@lilpacman204]

Good evening do you think that dave has any knowledge on building a tecate 4

[@davemooreracing]

Sorry never played with the Tecate 4. The guy you want to talk to is Rob Selvy. He knows about everything you can think of with that bike.

[@lilpacman204]

Would happen to know how i could get in touch with him

[@MichaelSabo]

Rob is on Facebook, you may be able to get in touch with him there.

[@mikesarahmccourts6509]

Mike I’ve tried to find where to purchase the engine stand from Dave with no luck also cannot find the rekluse clutch kit for the 250r any help would be appreciated thanks

[@BLAZEDALLDATIME]

Well tell Dave he sold another one I bought the stand and the frame gussets from wicked metal

[@BLAZEDALLDATIME]

Dave Moore needs to sell that plate that goes on the tusk installer I’m making mine but you know more money for him

[@Drain09]

Where’s Dave Moore located and how do you get in contact with him?

[@jamesjj5947]

"Skin a cat" what do you mean about that my Boi? 🤣

[@maibalzich7602]

Idk if anyone has asked this already but where do I get the tools hes using??

[@Brianlsvtec]

I'm still dreaming about that stretched 250r 3 wheeler😂

[@MichaelSabo]

Me too man... met too lol

[@budmcdonald9190]

Nice! On another note does anyone have a good number for ESR? I need a CEO kit!

[@cbr600rrturbo]

Esr is done unfortunately

[@MichaelSabo]

Unfortunately yes, right now ESR is in a rut, I'm not sure what's going on there.

[@budmcdonald9190]

@@MichaelSabo any suggestions on other options?

[@MichaelSabo]

@@budmcdonald9190 CPI is one of the only companies around making cylinders at this point as far as I know. They're great cylinders. In my CPI video description I have a list of all of their current distributors! 🤘 Hope this helps!

[@budmcdonald9190]

@@MichaelSabo thanks for the info. I’m currently out in Japan 🇯🇵 and out of loop on what’s going on.. trying to get all my parts together to finish putting it together when I get back in the states!

[@claudeperron780]

Noice

[@tristenarnold8474]

Hi

[@handendaer]

Start ur own channel

[@cbr600rrturbo]

He has one

[@nickygray4691]

Ok if a trx450r motor is kinda like a trx250r motor just without the values why couldn't you just put electric start lol

[@CodyBoyy]

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[@wadebibey3480]

Yo momma

[@mattreese-7]

lol 1:03

[@j85ace]

Weston just looks so bored i know hes not but