How to Build the Subaru FA Engine for BIG Power!

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@davidf7rt
@davidf7rt 10 ай бұрын
Thanks to Mike now i want to WPC treat even the spoons and forks of my home, the floor, the whole house, my wife, my dog, my friends... Everything now needs to be WPC treated and cryogenically treated 😂😂 ❤❤❤❤
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 9 ай бұрын
Do not cryo treat your dog, very stiff.
@fortunesk89
@fortunesk89 10 ай бұрын
Japanese micro peening, lubricity, short stroke good thing I got my air pods in here at work 😂
@digonderongedonga
@digonderongedonga 10 ай бұрын
ah yes, micro peening
@joerapo
@joerapo 8 ай бұрын
If I'm lucky I'll get to micro peen my wife tonight.
@benrambow144
@benrambow144 10 ай бұрын
I love that in the same video he talks about contrasting crystalline grain structure so intelligently and then some how says things like “makes ej’s go bye-bye” and “dead nuts balance” without losing any credibility. Fantastic video!
@snikab
@snikab 10 ай бұрын
“If you run above 330 and for sure above 350ft lbs… you tend to bend the rod (😊) it’s usually a catastrophic failure… bending the rod isn’t cool” I laughed my ass off right there! @11:26 😂
@agoods18
@agoods18 10 ай бұрын
When you start talking metallurgy it's magical. Great stuff.
@YouTube_Scientist
@YouTube_Scientist 9 ай бұрын
And where did you go to school for metallurgical engineering? 😅
@agoods18
@agoods18 9 ай бұрын
@KZbin_Scientist ferris state university you fuck head.
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
@@KZbin_Scientist Cal State Long Beach ME 35 years as an engineer for OEMs's also Motorsports Engineer and consultant for several factory race and privateer teams as well as several performance parts manufactures.
@YouTube_Scientist
@YouTube_Scientist 9 ай бұрын
@@motoiq well then you're well aware of cryogenic treatments and martensitic start and finish temps but - where do you get the info on what alloys are used in these engines to even .. explain to me why you would cryo a tempered steel (nitrided?) crankshaft without a salt or lead bath austemper? Is that 5% of martensite going to matter on these alloys or is that literally just marketing? I don't know if I have to say this or not but I obviously respect the hell out of ya man we obviously both have similar interests and whatnot - I'm not.. necessarily well okay I know it sounds like it over text but I really am not like arguing or trying to. Honestly I enjoy your videos but I couldn't get past the "we cryo our cranks" just because to me personally? With my knowledge which is not absolute (I'm sure we both forget stuff although everything I heard you say was correct but I did not finish the video because of the cryo deal). Moto, I owe you an apology for not finishing the video because, well obviously being a doctor on the internet puts me in a unique position henceforth my name. I just fail to understand the purpose behind cryo treatment post heat treatment, unless it's mainly a marketing deal. We don't know each other, but I absolutely cannot stand "marketing" or "advertising" or "corporate America" to an extent that you would not believe, so seeing someone that I respect start saying oh ya well soak your metal in ln2 for 500$ when I.. work in said corporate America and as a hobby I make high carbide PM kitchen knives for professional chefs, so obviously I know what alloys benefit from cryogenic treatments and which do not. But I have no idea how you are identifying these alloys being used because I personally have xrf/XRD and it's not enough for that purpose. GC-MS-MS? That would not be cheap but I can't rule it out. Also I'm incredibly sorry for freaking saying the school thing. That was a bit out of line. I hate people who go around with where they went to school. But since I did and I kinda know what I know, I am sorry but I did have to ask questions about it. I suppose I still do have questions about it. I don't deal in the engine steels or anything like that nor do I know where to find out what is what. I'm in the austenitic/duplex alloy department for work, henceforth my fun hobby where I get to play with ZTA ceramics and metals. Not that we'd want to cause of asperities grain growth yada yada but - is there a way to find out what alloy is being used so it can be re-heat treated or suchlike? I could say that would make a difference a little bit more than say just chilling to 196c. I work for US steel automotive research as a metallurgist fyi. I thought I posted that.
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
@@KZbin_Scientist Alloys for the pistons, cranks, and rods are known from the manufacturers. 4340 is pretty common for rods and cranks, the crank is not SAE 4340 but the JIS more or less equivalent, I forget the number. The crank is nitrated. The pistons are 2618 which is pretty common for American forged pistons. 4032 used to be popular but with improvements in piston design has fallen out of favor lately. As for the carpenter alloy, it was in the valve manufacturer info, I forgot which carpenter alloy numbers were used but since I was on a one-take roll when shooting the video I just kept going to make post-production easier plus I didn't think our audience would care that much. Cryo is more wear-resistant on an engine's ferrous rubbing surfaces. I have seen this in engines many times. It is also well documented in tool steels. Personally, I don't think it has much value in nonferrous metals except maybe stress relief. Look up some of the white papers on google about cryo. There are many interesting ones. I started using it many years ago and it seems to have worthwhile results in our high-power engines. In one series we do engines for, our engines go about 2x longer in between refreshes compared to our competitors. In our race engines, the rings have very little wear even after a season of use. The gaps stay close to the same and the second compression ring isn't even fully seated across the face! Cryoing eliminated valve spring failure for us, even with aggressive roller cams. One of my rifles went from one MOA accuracy to an astounding 0.25 MOA! It was also less sensitive to ammo quality, shooting no worse than 1.5 MOA even with cheap ammo on a bad day. Good cryotreating isn't so much dipping in LN2 but slowly reducing the temp to LN2 temp, then slowly increasing the temp to close to the tempering point over 72 plus hours so it probably isn't just the cold but also the tempering doing something. It does help though and in some alloys the difference is shocking. I was skeptical at first and cautious in its application but now I use it a lot more. I have a technical question, How do you form and sharpen ZTA into a knife?
@justingonzalez6448
@justingonzalez6448 9 ай бұрын
I have zero intention to build out my VB WRX with the FA24 to this extent, but really enjoyed the in depth explanation of the engine’s pros and cons. I could listen to you explain how things work for hours. Really appreciate the time, energy and genuine enthusiasm for what you do.
@davewallace9048
@davewallace9048 9 ай бұрын
The level of knowledge, and the way to articulate what he does is totally amazing!!
@Alex-q7m3k
@Alex-q7m3k 10 ай бұрын
For informative purposes.. I paid 11k for my Rebuilt title 2016 WRX with 65k miles. I threw a bearing at 85k miles drove it until 100k ticking like a mf since I had a motor ready(I was getting -2FKL and -11FBK for a while cruising at under 15% throttle before it started to tick bad. But under WOT or stronger acceleration it would disappear and my AP would read zero sometimes a -2 or -4 on occasion which supposedly was acceptable) it was FBO minus manifold on a TMIC. I spent maybe 5-6kish for the upgrades? Was flex with lpfp/hpfp upgraded. 8K for a new P2P Closed deck Longblock 0 miles (costs 14k got lucky, I was going to buy a shortblock for 6k that same week) has everything done to it minus cams, 625+ rod bolt 1/2" headstuds etc 3k for STI Swap 2k for TR GTX29 turbo 7k for Misc parts & labor 1k for Ecutek software/tune Limited to high mid 400 whp because of no secondary injection :c once I get that which is another 3kish I can do 510-520whp on my GTX29. I'll run what I have until end of year and get my secondary fueling and a BL58XR (Claims 770hp of airflow) biggest you can go stock location before you spend 6k+ on an ETS turbo kit.. or if I get lucky and find another ETS kit for 3k ill snag that. For those wondering, I am indeed broke as fuck and I finish concrete for a living.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
I mean even our shop car in one of our last videos was built over 10 years. It's expensive!
@cheddardavis5818
@cheddardavis5818 10 ай бұрын
I feel for ya , I spun a bearing on my 2015 wrx and planned to build it. This was in 2020 , it’s now sitting in my garage with iag stage 2 short block , stock port heads with gsc components. I bought an fp blue for it and am refusing to touch it til I have all the supporting parts for the turbo 🙃
@charlvictor3714
@charlvictor3714 4 ай бұрын
I have Kelford 280 cams for sale if you are interested
@Keith-e5f
@Keith-e5f 4 күн бұрын
I love my 2023 base model. I don't plan on doing any mods to it because it seems great for me personally the way it is. But if I wanted a faster car, I think I would just buy one that's already there without doing a bunch of mods. Just my two cents.
@y.b.-
@y.b.- 10 ай бұрын
It's the small, almost magical , trial and error results that Mike shares in these videos that is priceless for anyone looking to do things the right way while minimizing the F***up potential that are priceless. Yes, the basics are the same regardless of the engine or the goals, but those things that wait you when trying to figure out what works and what not are the gold nuggets Thanks Mike and MotoIQ team for sharing!
@SpectreFleet
@SpectreFleet 10 ай бұрын
What an absolute gem of a human, and video. I just got a new-to-me 2018 WRX-Sport Tech a few months back, and this is the detail I was hoping I'd be able to find when I went looking for it. Awesome.
@SGQ12
@SGQ12 7 ай бұрын
Put aig AOS, up grade radiator and oil pick, change oil 5k and clean air filter every 3k
@dewjustin
@dewjustin 10 ай бұрын
Love the videos. An FA20 vs FA24 video would be awesome. I know a lot of people that are curious about the details and breakdown of the two and if/where the FA24 improved over the FA20.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
They are almost the same motor. Not worth doing a separate video. Our last one mostly showed an FA24.
@dewjustin
@dewjustin 10 ай бұрын
@@motoiq thanks, any idea if the connecting rods are any stronger in the FA24? I heard you say it was the Achilles Heel of the FA20, wondering if it’s the same story for the new WRX.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
I think it's a bit stronger but unfortunately the new WRX isnt selling well so there are not many of those cars out. Also the engine is stronger than an EJ and they are not blowing up much.
@invertedv12powerhouse77
@invertedv12powerhouse77 10 ай бұрын
The new wrx has straight rods if i recall. Would have to see.​@@dewjustin
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
They are straight.
@khalidalhadidi6402
@khalidalhadidi6402 10 ай бұрын
I can't resist not to watch, It's pleasure and joy to listen and hope to build my FA-24 one day🙏🏼
@timpeace5946
@timpeace5946 10 ай бұрын
I’ve landed in the future and can report back that Markiplier finishes his engineering degree and develops a love of Subarus!
@jaydenherrera3053
@jaydenherrera3053 2 ай бұрын
Underrated comment 🤣
@Yumemaru.
@Yumemaru. Ай бұрын
Lol
@DoubleOSevan
@DoubleOSevan 10 ай бұрын
I feel like I owe Mike my tuition money.
@Ifixtheinternet
@Ifixtheinternet 4 ай бұрын
Can all the manufacturers please watch this video and note all of this guy's concerns? I want to see this guy designing his own engine.
@Fubbzie
@Fubbzie 4 ай бұрын
As an owner of a new gr86 and new to the flat motor world, your videos are great and I can’t wait to be a customer.
@_CryptoNoob_
@_CryptoNoob_ 4 ай бұрын
This is an absolutely amazing and comprehensive video!! My 2015 wrx limited has 169k miles now and I'm really thinking about doing a full overhaul before something fails. This video was far better than any other Subaru engine video I've ever seen!!!
@kamargee9680
@kamargee9680 4 ай бұрын
I love how this guy breaks stuff down. If you do too. Click that thumbs up. He deserves it
@njx1993
@njx1993 10 ай бұрын
This guys' videos are my therapy!! 😊
@jaynoii
@jaynoii 10 ай бұрын
Great content as always! I feel like I want to just sit there with you with a notepad and absorb. Keep up the great content!
@RandyJM21
@RandyJM21 10 ай бұрын
Some many positive things to say about how this presenter disseminates info I like on many different levels . Despite not being deep into understanding of engines I fully comprehended 99% of what was explained which shocked me . Excellent delivery , i could write a book on why . Subbing despite no need for services or any of the info on a deeper level but highly enjoyable to be able to have that level of uptake of info that I wouldnt expect to grasp at that level and the manner in which its done is excellent and if i was in need of services this video and presenters manner etc would grab me to dive deeper 100% . Excellent .
@darkobelisk4076
@darkobelisk4076 3 ай бұрын
I want to see this guy build his ultimate engine and put it into production
@mysteriousguy019
@mysteriousguy019 6 ай бұрын
A man worth gaining knowledge on cars. Literally the guy I plan to go to for tuning in the future.
@CrazyCat229
@CrazyCat229 10 ай бұрын
If half the aftermarket shops cared as much as he does... don't even get me started on Rotary Engine builders. It's not the engine that is unreliable, 99.5% of issues are bad tuners/builders...
@djosbun
@djosbun 10 ай бұрын
It’s easy to see that this gentleman grew up in a machine shop. A superbly detailed video! 👍🏼
@leviscott8519
@leviscott8519 9 ай бұрын
Great video Mike! Tons of very in-depth and very valuable build info. Love your passion and knowledge! Mind blown again!
@Kelford-Cams
@Kelford-Cams 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always Mr Kojima! Thank you for your kind words on our engineering principals
@ianchong3996
@ianchong3996 6 ай бұрын
What an education I'm finally getting on my MY2014 FA20DIT. Thank you very very much!
@VictorMPR
@VictorMPR 10 ай бұрын
Yyyaaaaayyy!!! A video on the FA!!
@patteahan8704
@patteahan8704 10 ай бұрын
you guys spliced in the oil pickup/pan segment seamlessly... only caught it when the silver subie was turned around lol
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
This was done over several weeks.
@snoofayy6150
@snoofayy6150 10 ай бұрын
Clearly you've never worked in a shop, the cars love playing peek-a-boo with us mechanics 😊
@patteahan8704
@patteahan8704 10 ай бұрын
@@motoiq lol I assumed, just saying it was unnoticeable save for the car being turned around. Thought it might have been a nod to see who's playing attention.
@coryr1948
@coryr1948 6 ай бұрын
This video helped me feel happy I didn't "upgrade" to an STI. Ive been think bout trading in for an STI but this made me decide not to. Im happy with my FA20 WRX. Bought it brand new and hope to keep it until gas is no longer a option in the future.
@zigazackwrx17
@zigazackwrx17 10 ай бұрын
Another great video Mike. I would love to see the motor put together. Assembly video???
@harrybuhse8622
@harrybuhse8622 10 ай бұрын
Christmas came real early this year. Thank you for the incredible information.
@jaredweimer4189
@jaredweimer4189 26 күн бұрын
You deserve many more views
@shiloh5199
@shiloh5199 4 ай бұрын
I would love to have you guys build me an FA20DIT for my 2017 VA chassis.
@boosTiMon
@boosTiMon 10 ай бұрын
Mike is like the Encyclopedia Britannica of car information. He’s like the Google database.
@dwilliamson7286
@dwilliamson7286 9 ай бұрын
This guy passed Material Science
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
In fact I got an A in it!
@MickyMouseLimited
@MickyMouseLimited 3 ай бұрын
This was a really cool video and definitely made a lot of sense thank you great work.
@ProjectDefi
@ProjectDefi 3 ай бұрын
bro i love your subaru content. im building a crazy custom car. im thinking about using a new fa
@johnvoit9629
@johnvoit9629 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@boldtaco4505
@boldtaco4505 9 ай бұрын
Love the fa20 content
@JoseMartinez-gy9eo
@JoseMartinez-gy9eo 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, I got a built shortblock from Maperformance for my WRX and it’s damn near the exact same specs. It’s very reassuring to hear just how great the motor is! Great video👍🏽
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 10 ай бұрын
FA24 WRX?
@JoseMartinez-gy9eo
@JoseMartinez-gy9eo 10 ай бұрын
@@ruturaj47 no FA20DIT, he’s talking about the fa20 in this video
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 10 ай бұрын
@@JoseMartinez-gy9eo gotcha, my bad, I thought previous gen was EJ and current is FA, it was a wrong assumption.
@JoseMartinez-gy9eo
@JoseMartinez-gy9eo 10 ай бұрын
@@ruturaj47 no worries! There’s a built shortblock for the FA24 out now as well though
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 10 ай бұрын
@@JoseMartinez-gy9eo thanks, that's good to hear, if engine on my car blows I would be looking for one 😂.
@robertbrathwaite4191
@robertbrathwaite4191 4 ай бұрын
On this man birthday to this world.. he came out smiling!
@sadow51
@sadow51 3 ай бұрын
I got a 17 wrx. Fixing to mod it a little. Sounds like I won’t really need to do much to the engine for reliability
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
@WRXMAN-ms2mm 3 ай бұрын
After watching this video how can so many trash the DIT 2.0 FA. I get not liking the weak transmission of the WRX but the engine in this format is a little gem!
@yummyhershey5902
@yummyhershey5902 Ай бұрын
The FA20 is so prone to knock that Subaru claims it’s normal in the owner’s manual!😂 The motor still seems to be generally weaker than some of its competitors, primarily Volkswagen’s EA888. Not only is that motor less likely to blow, but it also makes power a little more easily. I don’t know why, but a lot of these FA20 guys spin a rod bearing, seemingly from nowhere. Maybe it’s because of the knock combined with the non-priority oiling system Mike talked about in this video. That being said, it’s not necessarily a “bad” motor, and the FA24 seems incredibly stout from what I’ve seen so far.
@OblivionX
@OblivionX 3 ай бұрын
love this guy, just looks so happy to be there
@kellysandford1877
@kellysandford1877 10 ай бұрын
Great video Mike! Thanks for the education!
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 10 ай бұрын
My ej was 2 quarts low when it spun a king rod bearing, I’ll be lucky to ever get the car running again as the previous build was so expensive it’s ridiculously expensive to fix unless I just swap a stock engine in
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
See our Subaru play list for ways to prevent oil spitting.
@trutaing
@trutaing 10 ай бұрын
For the head work: how much more cfm are we talking about over stock? Did you guys measure stock flow and compare the work you recommended here? Love the emphasis on low lift flow and how much time is spent there. You've said this in your other videos and it makes so much sense!
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
We didn't flow bench it, people won't pay to have it done.
@trutaing
@trutaing 10 ай бұрын
@@motoiq looking forward to seeing content of this engineer build running! Thanks for sharing all the knowledge!
@santoscarrillo2996
@santoscarrillo2996 9 ай бұрын
Im learning
@Krowskaptures
@Krowskaptures 9 ай бұрын
Wish the parts was on the website. I've only found a couple. I'd buy the whole kit if it was on the website.
@Cheeseypoofs85
@Cheeseypoofs85 2 ай бұрын
carpenter steel.. o yea buddy.. i have an CTS-XHP black talon 2. sick knife.
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 ай бұрын
I don't like the blade shape, at least for a working knife. Still a badass knife.
@jumboshirmp
@jumboshirmp 10 ай бұрын
Is the oil pump cover on the FA24 also have a smaller hole versus the galley?
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
yes
@chinchy111
@chinchy111 10 ай бұрын
Ive still seen head gaskets fail on the fa20
@SereneSpeed
@SereneSpeed 10 ай бұрын
The important metric is incidence rate (probability), not simply possibility.
@Chilliann
@Chilliann 13 күн бұрын
Hey man I’ve been having so much trouble with finding ANY cams, valve springs, Headstuds, OR ANY INTERNALS for my 2022 brz. FA24D. Please help
@IHadToMakeThisAccount
@IHadToMakeThisAccount 10 ай бұрын
Are the BRZ and WRX Engine the same head castings?
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
They are very close
@soconoha
@soconoha 2 ай бұрын
EJ22 for life.
@Growthat
@Growthat 7 ай бұрын
Protect Mike at all costs, this man is a fucking gem! His Delivery is top notch and he explains things so well without putting you to sleep.
@zedaye9552
@zedaye9552 10 ай бұрын
This puts confidence back into building an FA. Thanks for the content once again. Keep getting told the FA heads don't flow as much as the EJ, and restrict it from making power due to the water jackets being so close and can't port too much. One of my dream builds has always been doing a twich charge, turbo and SC, and the FA has the bones for one of these builds. Hopefully i can find someone as knowledgeable as you guys to help me with my build. Thanks again for your work Mike 👍🏽
@INTEL-REDACTED
@INTEL-REDACTED 10 ай бұрын
can you do a video on the honda J series, whats interchangeable what isn't, how to build it for boost, how much you can make reliably on the stock drive train etc.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
Probably not because I don't like that motor or swap.
@andrewable2634
@andrewable2634 10 ай бұрын
Are you guys aware of the fa24 oil pressure drop issues on track days? This is even happening on stock grip setups
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I think this baffle will help as some other things, oddly the 86 cup cars are ok, we had two of those motors so far and the oiling system is stock and the bearings are fine.
@ellisjackson336
@ellisjackson336 10 ай бұрын
@@motoiqthank you very much for making this video 😊
@CrazyCat229
@CrazyCat229 10 ай бұрын
The only cheap way to help that issue... oil accumulator... and do everything you can to keep the oil in the pan above the pick-up tube. Run almost a quart of oil over stock, and thicker oil...
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
Probably the IAG baffle is going to make a huge difference.
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest 10 ай бұрын
@@motoiq This x100. None of the cup guys are having any issues. None. And I know a couple of those guys and I guarantee they are pulling more g's than anyone reporting the issue. Little bird told me maybe the problem is where the "low oil pressure" is being measured. Something about a blind passage at the top of the engine....
@1atinlove
@1atinlove 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike! Great video, i have been waiting for years. I have read your articles to kind of guide me through my build. After built heads, and a IAG extreme. The next section is the transmission. Do you have any preferences for building the gearsets or a CD009 as a replacement? I know that there is full race but for us poor gear heads, something real.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
CD009 as the FA can make enough power to blow the stock trans apart and we could not make them live very long over 400's in the power.
@ellisjackson336
@ellisjackson336 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@slfrules1
@slfrules1 10 ай бұрын
i think that oil cover neck has to do with the oiling priority. They ain't going after RPMs so restricting the main oil galley cuts windage and can probably help cool the heads.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
No the oil passage routing has to do with oiling priority.
@slfrules1
@slfrules1 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I thought that cover sent the oil off to each head and the mains kinda like a coolant manifold does. Figured it was like when turbo feed comes off the pressure sensor n gets a restrictor
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
No watch the video!
@slfrules1
@slfrules1 10 ай бұрын
I have, promise lol! Rewatched 22:00 to 23:30 and 28:10 to 29:10 a whole bunch to boot. I think i don't understand fluid dynamics. I did fail that mess before having to rethink things. Few Nissans and GMs i've been deep into always seems like the main feed will be the smallest and the squirter feed the largest with heads in the middle. Seemed bad for performance so i've always figured they had an emissions reason behind it
@Cheeseypoofs85
@Cheeseypoofs85 2 ай бұрын
IAG must have discontinued the baffle for the FA... its not on their website
@jittychitty
@jittychitty 10 ай бұрын
Great demonstration. Joined.
@SpecialK_Ody
@SpecialK_Ody 3 ай бұрын
Would you recommend doing the oil pick up and baffle when doing the IAG short block? I am on 110k miles on stock block and pushing 330 ish torque and plan on keeping it as a fun daily street car. My mechanic noticed I have an exhaust valve leak which is why I am moving forward with new block and will use the GCS valves.
@motoiq
@motoiq 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@MonkellD
@MonkellD 10 ай бұрын
We would love a feature follow up on this engine when it gets running!!!
@itsnickestevez
@itsnickestevez 10 ай бұрын
Another great video! TY
@DaVuddha
@DaVuddha 10 ай бұрын
I wish it was more feasible to swap my old EJ for an FA24.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
EJ's are highly developed and there are fixes for all of their shortcomings, you can just build your EJ.
@DaVuddha
@DaVuddha 10 ай бұрын
@motoiq the FA24 is overall more efficient and (stock against stock) makes more power everywhere except peak vs an EJ257
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
Who is going to bother to just swap a stock FA. It would be better and cheaper just to get a car with an FA.
@DaVuddha
@DaVuddha 9 ай бұрын
@motoiq not willing to move on from my GC chassis. Oh well, maybe in another 10 years someone will have figured out an easy swap for the FA24 into the older chassis'
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
The electronics
@two40zsx
@two40zsx 10 ай бұрын
Are Viton Valve seals that great? I went with oe valve seals for my engine. I was hearing a lot of the aftermarket valve seals failing
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
A lot of aftermarket seals are made of crap. A lot of OEM seals are viton too.
@stevebodalenko5286
@stevebodalenko5286 10 ай бұрын
The noise from the HP fuel pump on e85 is called 'chirping' cause it sound like a bird chirping. I've never heard of it causing an issue or pump failure before though. Is the same HP fuel pump changeover applicable to NA FA20 fitted to the BRZ/GT86? Nostrum's website only refers to the FA20 WRX.
@ghostedyoutuber263
@ghostedyoutuber263 Ай бұрын
Why not DLC the piston rings?
@motoiq
@motoiq Ай бұрын
Some rings like Mahle are
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 8 ай бұрын
Great video. Only thing that harmed my EJ207 was Subaru going with a plastic radiator drain plug that fails with heat cycling… rebuild due to overheating. At 174K it still had nitriding on the low side of the piston skirts!
@motoiq
@motoiq 8 ай бұрын
You can't nitride aluminum.
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 8 ай бұрын
@@motoiq I'm no metallurgist so what is the black coating on the OEM pistons?
@motoiq
@motoiq 8 ай бұрын
Dry film lubricant
@pinoycarnbikeguy8888
@pinoycarnbikeguy8888 4 ай бұрын
Amazing content! I wanted to ask if you used the +1 mm oversized GSC valves or the standard size ones? Thanks!! Trying to replicate the headwork on my own build!!!
@Patriot_wrx
@Patriot_wrx 6 ай бұрын
Would you guys be able to talk about what different turbo/induction noises are? What compressor surge sounds like vs the chirping of a BOV, diverter valve, lack thereof, etc. I got a diverter valve from Perrin and it’s making a lot of “turbo flutter” noise which I’m not sure if it’s due to it not properly blowing off air, or if it’s just the sound of the valve.
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
A quick check would be to disconnect it, the noise should change. Aslo see if your boost is lower, this would indicate that it is set too loose and blowing open.
@joecrak249
@joecrak249 6 ай бұрын
how much would something like this cost including the treatments to these parts
@joecrak249
@joecrak249 6 ай бұрын
PS I LOVVVEEEEEE MOTOIQ AS WELL AS THE KNOWLEDGE MIKE SPITS OUT FOR US
@joecrak249
@joecrak249 6 ай бұрын
looked this up for my gr86
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
See our video on Subaru engine costs
@not_so_short
@not_so_short 3 ай бұрын
Who would you recommend I send my fa20dit to? I want it built but with the open deck setup
@jonahbarta6830
@jonahbarta6830 Ай бұрын
did the FA24 fix the oiling issue seen with the FA20, Mike? I heard that the main bearings are now given priority, over the head, in the FA24?
@motoiq
@motoiq Ай бұрын
No
@grippgoat
@grippgoat 10 ай бұрын
I couldn't find any IAG parts for the 2023 BRZ. Did you accidentally leak the secret to 900BRZ's stable oil pressure? 🤨
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
The baffle is new so you might have to call on it.
@ronjohnson557
@ronjohnson557 9 ай бұрын
Is this video for FA20s, FA24s, or both?
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
Both
@ronjohnson557
@ronjohnson557 9 ай бұрын
@@motoiq Thank you! I just wanted to confirm that this information is all true for VBs. Would love to see an episode sometime soon focused on the VB.
@mikegordon8178
@mikegordon8178 7 ай бұрын
I love my FA24, plenty of power, I see no need to change anything. To each his own though. Warranty be damned.
@test-vl2bd
@test-vl2bd 10 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on Total Seal's gapless rings? They say their 2nd ring is able to nearly eliminate blow-by, which sounds tempting.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
Old technology. Total seal has new super flexible rings that are pretty good.
@andrevalenzuela846
@andrevalenzuela846 Ай бұрын
Question, can you run an FA20dit piston (wrx) with a FA20 engine rebuild (brz). I know brz has both di and port, and I think wrx doesn't have port. Looking into choosing Manley pistons for my '13 brz engine build!
@motoiq
@motoiq Ай бұрын
Yes that is fine.
@j.m.5995
@j.m.5995 9 ай бұрын
"Super smooth, super lubricious, super low friction" Yup that describes me un a nutshell lol
@deejay4837
@deejay4837 10 ай бұрын
Is there an oil that you recommend used in tuned cars that are also commuters?....I've always wondered about this. Great Vid again!
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
I recommend a 10w40 full synthetic that is SF rated.
@rbohenko1590
@rbohenko1590 9 ай бұрын
Is it recommended to replace the oil baffle along with the oil pick up tube or is it okay to just upgrade the pickup tube? And I'm assuming I should just go ahead and replace the oil pan gasket since it's already off, rite?
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
Yes
@IMR_Seb
@IMR_Seb 9 ай бұрын
So would it generally be cheaper to get an EJ to 500hp? (taking the cost of the base engine itself into account) The cheapest FA would be the FA20D (or toyota 4U-GSE), but that has 12.5 compression ratio.
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
No, its probably cheaper to get an FA up to 500. No need to close deck it. Past this level, its about the same and an EJ is more developed and has a better oiling system for making bigger power numbers.
@SGQ12
@SGQ12 7 ай бұрын
May i know the part of that need for oil pan. The pick up tube and that flat plates? Thank you in advance sir. More watching here
@motoiq
@motoiq 7 ай бұрын
We explain that in the video very carefully.
@charlvictor3714
@charlvictor3714 4 ай бұрын
Can you please send me a link to purchase the oil baffle plate?
@motoiq
@motoiq 4 ай бұрын
google is your friend
@charlvictor3714
@charlvictor3714 4 ай бұрын
@@motoiq the reason I asked is because I only see an oil baffle and windage tray for EJ25 on IAG’s website.
@motoiq
@motoiq 4 ай бұрын
The phone is your friend
@charlvictor3714
@charlvictor3714 4 ай бұрын
@@motoiq ok I see now you said the baffle is new. I will email IAG.
@eddytwitch3351
@eddytwitch3351 7 ай бұрын
What is your opinion on the best engine oil pressure on stock FA20 engines? for track days and road and touge use. Greetings from Italy
@Hallowsaw
@Hallowsaw 6 ай бұрын
Is it frowned upon to get the outback wilderness for the different gear ratio and transmission cooler just to lower it to legacy height.
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
Probably not.
@EGONZALEZ9985
@EGONZALEZ9985 Ай бұрын
Sir, confirming you still recommend an AOS for FA24 engines stock or tuned?
@motoiq
@motoiq Ай бұрын
It is more critical on the turbo versions
@karlvanboxel561
@karlvanboxel561 3 ай бұрын
Do u do anything to the oiling system system to prioritise the crank oiling ? Over the head oiling ? Apart from that seems like with yur mods it’s gonna b a stout engine! When u first look at the crank it looks flimsy but the journal overlap is important I know motorcycles generally run smaller diameter journals and that is because they r concerned with journal/ bearing speed I don’t know much about that can u possibly enlighten me they don’t seem to be as concerned about that in most car engines because of the lower rpm but dare say that cos worth may have considered this in Gordon Murray’s remarkable 3.9 litre v12 running to 11-12000 rpm lol
@motoiq
@motoiq 3 ай бұрын
Did you see the part about enlarging the passage in the front cover to the case?
@NapalmPineapple
@NapalmPineapple 6 ай бұрын
I’m curious if some of these parts are applicable to the N/A FA20s in the 86. I know they have similar oiling problems for track use.
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
yes
@alexandram9477
@alexandram9477 10 ай бұрын
i'd love to hear your thoughts on the FA24D for the BRZ/GR86 - it seems you like the FA20, would like to hear a comparison.
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
It is almost the same motor.
@LuqmanRosley
@LuqmanRosley 10 ай бұрын
Mike, just a question when doing engine balancing. Do you recommend balancing it with or without the flywheel and clutch assembled. Cause the machine shop here believes in doing it with the flywheel and clutch assembled
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
That is the best if possible.
@kmoneym82
@kmoneym82 10 ай бұрын
Think we can get a parts list? like which part numbers of whats going in this build?
@motoiq
@motoiq 10 ай бұрын
Nope, that's why we make the big bucks. But seriously its not that hard to look it up.
@ibraiynlopez3510
@ibraiynlopez3510 9 ай бұрын
@15:40 is that the reason they loose oil pressure when performing hard right turns??
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
Rings have nothing to do with oil pressure.
@ibraiynlopez3510
@ibraiynlopez3510 9 ай бұрын
Apologies i was referring to the oil pump cover passage way that feeds the main galley. Where you bore it out Idk why the time stamp takes it to the ring portion 🤷‍♂️
@ibraiynlopez3510
@ibraiynlopez3510 9 ай бұрын
Do you guys sell oil pump cover already bored out??
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 ай бұрын
No but it's not hard to do it yourself.
@lauriedooker1031
@lauriedooker1031 10 ай бұрын
another great video 👍🇦🇺
@DAHui808
@DAHui808 6 ай бұрын
Any suggestions for an FA to VW transaxle conversion?
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
No
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