How To Bypass Your OBC

[@isaakrempel8728]

Thank you for the video! it helped me out with my cart. Turned out my OBC was disabling the throttle. And after removing the OBC wires and looping the yellow wire to the B- terminal and the black charge port wire to the - battery terminal it worked

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@robertsorenson7075]

I have a 2013 Precedent. Installed a 48v lithium battery, trying to ensure I don’t screw up the OBC disconnect. My new battery pack obviously uses the new on board charger and I want to remove the old socket and replace with one I can plug an extension cord into where the charger plug just plugs into the backside for that clear look. If I don’t hook up the red hot to the battery, cut the grey I am not clear what to do with the black. Do I have to leave the OBC hooked up or will that prevent the cart from working. I heard you say we could splice the blue and white together but need to make sure I am not screwing up before I start cutting factory harnesses! Great video!

[@royfarley5679]

Wayne, Thank you for a straightforward video with simple isntructions, I've watched so many that didn't explain the difference with DS Precent etc. Well done!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Nice, thank you

[@brianclarkston4163]

Hello sir, thanks for the video... On my 2006 Club Car DS it was set up like the precedent you should in video... after pondering for a while I decided to gamble, clipped the wires from obc, removed all wires except the blue and white as you advised, butt spliced them together, connected the grey connector back together and fast project took me 30 minutes. Went with summit II charger and has blue tooth which is cool. Thanks again for your videos

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@brentoncochran80]

Thank you so much on how to do this!!!!! I just got a 06 Club Car DS that wasn't running and after doing this we are roll'in!!!! Saved me some big bucks! thx again!!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Very nice !

[@Boondockinit]

Wayne, thanks so much for the help you gave me yesterday with my battery and charger issue. I appreciate you sir.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@kitmaestretti9049]

Hi Wayne. Yes, it was my understanding that my MOD Z charger would work with either a OBC or with one that has been bypassed. Since I just tried the charger before cutting wires to bypass and found that while the amber low charge light sometimes blinks and sometimes stops, the charge across the battery pack does charge up to 55volts with about 8.9 across each battery. So, something is working, but I may still do the bypass if running the cart a lot causes problems. Thanks again for sharing your time and knowledge of how these systems work. Oh, I do know that my old charger did start at 15 amps and dropped to 10a and on down to 2 amps before shutting off. I have not tried to run my new charger all the way to shut off.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I talked to the modz people today. They assured me that it would work without doing a bypass.👍 So I ordered 1 so I can do some testing of it on my own.

[@kitmaestretti9049]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Great! How this all works is a mytery to me and I'm always curious but need to understand the circuitry better. I considered the Summit II but didn't need all the details the app provides so went with the cheaper charger that sounded like it would work both ways. Let me know what you discover. Thanks again.

[@AdamWisecup]

Thanks, Mr. Wayne. Your explanations helped me bypass the OBC on a '02, DS. We need more good content like this on the interents.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Adam, Glad it helped you!

[@kenthogan7516]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 can I use an ERIC charger on my 2006 Club Car if I bypass the obj on this cart?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You know I never thought of that! I can't answer that, but I will try it to find out. I would think it should since we are only dealing with charging it.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@user-gl9iz1bp1r]

Great instructions. Purchased a smart charger with multi-stage charging, which includes plug and forget technology. That OBC and old tech charger sucked.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@jeandupoux4179]

Wayne thanks a million !! You helped me alot. It's great how you explained everything !! Straight forward....Happy 4th of July 2024

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Thank you sir !

[@IIIDjiManIII]

Awesome video great explanation thank you. I was able to fix the golf cart. I appreciate you so much.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Nice 👍

[@TylerDrum-p3i]

1995 ds are you able to take out the OBC all together if you have new lithium and smart charger???...if so what other wires would you need to address. Thank you so much for the awesome video's.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you have a obc, and install lithium, then yes you can remove the obc. Pretty simple bypass, usually just the receptacle negative, the gray wire, and the skinny yellow to the solenoid.

[@raylinletourneau3649]

Thanks Wayne. So to clarify, after cutting the 10ga. black and routing it from the charge port to the neg battery terminal, I then cut and route the yellow wire from the solenoid to the same negative terminal as the black. (The main pack negative) Again, thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes, if you are talking about the skinny yellow wire, not a fat 6 gauge wire!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes, just make sure you are rerouting the correct end of that yellow wire

[@chunkyjungle]

I’ve got an 03 club car ds iq. I am trying to convert it over to lithium. Based on what I’ve seen and read I have the same cables as the precedent. I have jumped the blue and white wires, removed the other wires and OBC, and have connected it back together per your instructions. I connected the battery and have full voltage across the solenoid and to the motor even with the key out of the ignition. Furthermore, the cart will not move in forward or reverse. Have you seen this issue and do you know what the fix is?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you have full voltage to the motor, without the key on, then that means your solenoid is closed all the time. I think you have wired something wrong. Text me pictures so I can see everything under the seat, batteries, wires , etc. Text to my phone.

[@fredkelley7261]

Thanks for the very clear instructions

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Hope they helped you!

[@harbinguy1]

Great videos on your channel!!! Thanks. I have a 2005 Club car precedent with four 12 volt Rolls batteries I got last year new. Currently, the battery won't last 18 holes, became very weak at end of 18 holes, I can barely make it to home. The battery specific gravity and voltage even load test check out all ok. I am using OGM power drive 2 charger. some suggested the charger is not good. what could be the problem?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Could be the wrong batteries, could be 1 or more bad batteries, could be charger, obc, charge receptacle, receptacle red charge wire, dead wall outlet, you need to narrow it down some. Try your charger on someone else's cart and also try someone else's charger on your cart, that would narrow it down alot.

[@harbinguy1]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thanks for your suggestions! I tried using my friend's charger, the aftermarket" hi-frequency charger" It seems working, I also changed one cable which I noticed was warm. The problem is that particular model of charger is in short supply. What can I do with my power drive 2 which seems to undercharge my batteries?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

send me pictures by text or email, of the entire area under the seat so I can see all the batteries and wires

[@harbinguy1]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 just sent one photo.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

got no photos

[@hugokenyon2961]

The grey wire off the charge plug? I cut it . Appears a bypass kit was put in place with grey splitting to red and blue on a partly blanked off six pin connector to the loom. Does the solenoid need a neg wire? No click when I put the cart in gear.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Forget the gray wire. Yes the solenoid needs a negative wire.

[@stanboyd7967]

i have a club car ds electric wont go in reverse works fine in forward replaced f&r switch still won't solonode clicks thinking it might be the controler.

[@mikehoward777]

Excellent video!! I just did the bypass on a 97 ds, what should be done with the red wire coming out of obc.? (Has a fused link and goes to the solenoid) also, the brown wire, and the other black that goes to B- ? Second question... what if, after i did all this, the cart still doesn't kick in a charger.?(original power drive, haven't gone to get the summit 2 yet) all the batteries are good, connections, etc..

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

you don't need to do anything with those wires. If you are leaving the obc in the cart, you can cut them off if you want. Your club car charger will not come on now.

[@lannyhitchcock5728]

Howdy Wayne! Great video and thanks. A quick question, do you have to bypass and eliminate the OBC when using a smart charger? I am wondering if I can just run a #10 wire from the outbound Neg on the charge receptacle and connect it to the Neg on the #6 battery and be done. This would leave all of the OBC wiring in tact in case a future buyer wanted to replace the bad OBC. Thanks, Lkh

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

most smart chargers need the obc bypassed. Some chargers claim they dont, but i havent seen them that actually perform well. Depending on what year and model cart you have. you probably have to do more than just run the 10 wire to the negative

[@ronniewheeler4167]

I'm a little confused on one part, I have a 2004 Club Car DS and I'm going with the Single Eco Lithium battery, watching your video here I've come across the part you were talking about your yellow wire from the solenoid to your main negative, you said to reuse the #12 grey wire to help reach. The problem I'm running into is the yellow wire coming from the solenoid is going to the plug that went to the OBC, its a 3 wire plug. Yellow, Red, Black. Do I need to do anything with those other wires? The old charger is also still connected to the solenoid still so I'm trying to figure how to get rid of that and if wire the new battery in. Haven't found much content on the internet showing these older club cars being modified with the newer style lithium batteries. Any helps and tips appreciated, love all the other videos!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

How can the charger be connected to the solenoid?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

That yellow wire needs to be cut off at the obc and extended to the main battery pack negative, or else to B- on the controller.

[@ronniewheeler4167]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I think im mistaken the controller for a charger, its mounted behind the seat next to the OBC

[@wakawilkie1344]

Hi Wayne I have followed your instructions. I have a 2005 DS. Then only thing is, the yellow wire from the solenoid is not working for my cart. Batteries are good including the bank of batteries. Bypass, is missing something. Any suggestions please

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you are doing the bypass, do you have the new charger already? Tell me exactly what you have done, with what wires so far?. Also tell me what is or is not happening after the bypass?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you are doing the bypass, do you have the new charger already? Tell me exactly what you have done, with what wires so far?. Also tell me what is or is not happening after the bypass?

[@GEEGONKEY]

Hello Mr Martin thank you for the video! I’m in the process of bypassing my club car DS. I did everything you advised in the video but now my charger will not kick on. When you say cut the yellow wire and extend it to the main negative. Are you saying extend it from the solenoid side or the OBC side?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

The skinny yellow wire needs to run from the solenoid to either the main pack battery negative, or to the B- on the controller. If you do not have a new bypassed charger, it will not come on. You must have a new bypassed charger once you do a bypass.

[@dougstewart1094]

I have a club car DS and I’m bypassing my OBC and my plug only has brown , yellow, Red wires triangular gray plug no blue and white to connect together like the video. I’m confused on what to do now.

[@jendress7842]

Hello there. Love your videos and tutorials. You speak on my level and I understand, most of the time. Lol. I have a 98 Club Car, new solenoid,controller sent off snd checked out goof ,s new batteries, new cables, new V-glide, new F/R switch. Getting pack voltage ar switch, solenoid, motor, but no movement.. just clicks and clicks. New Trojans show 50.7 at rest. I needed it for a customer by Sunday. Not looking good. I'm gonna try bypassing some things and see ! Any suggestions? Thanks

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

check the motor

[@Mike-ei5pk]

Thank you so much for this video!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@PullerbearEd]

Hi Wayne, I have a 2010 Precedent i2 that is not taking a charge. It has brand new batteries and the charger kicks on but it says it is charging at 0 amps. if you run the batteries down some same thing the charger kicks on but charger says 0amps. I have tried different chargers and still nothing. Could this be a bad OBC?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes it can be.

[@reggieranch6925]

Good stuff! I like your style

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@stevem2266]

So what I found is on the club car president once you splice the two black wires and do the blue and white wires. The old charger will not work that small grey wire must be hook to Voltage because that controls the 48v relay in the charger. I thought by doing the bypass I would be able to still charge with the old charger until my new ocb came in. But I don’t know what side to hook that small grey wire up to coming out of the charger receptacle that’s in the golf car. It’s the grey wire that has the spade connector on it that plugs in back of the OCB

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Once you bypass the obc. the old charger won't work. Thats why you don't do it before you have your new charger first.

[@stevem2266]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Okay I thought I heard you say it will work it just won’t shut off. But anyway I have a new OBC coming.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

correct. You can do some temporary wire swapping inside the charger to make it come on, but it won't shut off. It's doable, but I don't like to suggest it.

[@stevem2266]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I get it. I’ll wait till the new OBC comes Tuesday. Thanks

[@futuretechnique7919]

Wayne! great video ur the main guy! question for you, i do have a DS but its a 2005.. i dont have the same color, which one do i join together to bypass my OBC ?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you DO NOT have a white wire and also a blue wire at your obc connector, then you do nothing about joining any wires. All you would need to do is reroute the # 10 black to the main battery negative, cut or disconnect the gray wire, and if you have the skinny yellow wire on the solenoid, that would need to be rerouted, that's all.

[@futuretechnique7919]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thank u!!!!!!!

[@kgarvey2147]

You mention the yellow wire that connects to the solenoid. The other end connects to the controller, not the OBC. Do I remove or cut this yellow wire at the controller and connect it to the main batt neg?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

if it connects to the controller B-, then you don't need to do anything with it.

[@grimacres]

I have a question. Can I just outright remove the entire OBC? I have a lithium battery and charger with a new motor and controller. What sort of wiring change would I need to make to remove the module. The original charge port is MIA and any signs of wires that went to it are gone. I just want any excess removed so as to keep possible confusion to a minimum. I am upgrading to a high amp FNR solenoid and I am gonna have the harnesses ripped open so I may as well trim the fat. Thank you...

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes you can remove it completely, No big deal

[@user-rh2lh1xz6q]

Wayne I have a pre-2000 DS cart and was wanting to put Allied Lithium batteries in it. I just need to do the black wire from receptical to main negative and just splice the yellow/grey to battery as well? Thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes on black wire. The gray you can just cut off, you wont be using it. The only time you need to mess with a yellow wire, is if you have a skinny yellow wire going to your solonoid. If you do have that skinny yellow wire then you need to reach you need to reroute that so it goes from the main battery pack negative to the solenoid don't worry about it if you don't have that skinny wire. And lastly if you have a blue wire and a white wire in your OBC Gray connector you need to cut and spice those 2 wires together on the cart side of the connector

[@user-rh2lh1xz6q]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thank you for the quick reply! Just want to confirm that there wasn’t a yellow wire in the “Club Car DS Lithium Battery Installation” video. Just saw the black receptical and the blue/white wire splice. Thanks again and will let you know if I need anymore help!

[@kitmaestretti9049]

Hi Wayne. Great video and comments. Really helpful. I'm ready to by pass my Club Car 97 ds, but wonder if you ever tried to get in the OBC and fix what might be a failed diode. Read somewhere that it might be the problem. Thought I'd check before cutting wires etc. Thanks.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes I have opened them before. There is nothing that is accessible in it. The entire inside is encapsulated in epoxy. Most important, if you are going to do a bypass, get the new charger first, because if you cut wires first, you won't be able to charge again till you get a different charger.

[@kitmaestretti9049]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Yep, I already have my new charger so will do the by pass. Thanks

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@iamsmilingbear]

I have a 2006 CLUB CAR with OBC and I plan to bypass the OBC. It came with a PowerDrive2 charger. I plan to buy the Summit Series II, 36-48V Auto Ranging Voltage 13-18A, CC Power Drive w/o OBC. Will this charger work for me? Thank you

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes. excellent charger if you bypass the obc

[@iamsmilingbear]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thank You Wayne I have watched your video about 5 times and tomorrow I do the bypass. I don't see anything I can't do. I appreciate you

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@garytube1050]

Wayne, My Crown batteries were 4 years old so I thought my problem was with them. Replaced on the precendent Trojans. It is a 48 volt cart. I charged the batteries up to fool charge. Hit the reverse switch and push the pedal. The voltage display drops to 0%, no light at all. Cart does not move. Any ideas what might be the problem. I put a new speed sensor and a chinese mcor about a month ago before I replaced the batteries.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Sounds like either you missed a wire or even maybe the tow switch is still in tow?

[@garytube1050]

@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I was wondering if the switch is not working. I am able to push the cart foward and backwards with ease when it is in run.

[@garytube1050]

Also if I play with the switch back and forth through run and tow the light indicating full charge flickers on on off.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes, you can push the cart in both tow and run . Will reverse buzzer work in run but not in tow?

[@garytube1050]

@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 yes it does buzz when hitting the reverse side. However it buzzes, the voltage indicator drops where it is not visible. Of the cart. After a while it will go through the same sequences.

[@MyRaptorsvt]

Thank you Wayne! I bypassed my OBC as you instructed and purchased a Summit 2 charger as you recommended. Everything works great! Thanks again!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

nice! 👍

[@jlipcovich]

Hi Wayne, I have a 95 DS and the yellow wire you were referring to, it’ll be extended (so it’ll be running from the solenoid to the main pack neg??) just clarifying. I already did the receptacle ground to the main pack neg and I deleted the gray wire with the yellow fuse thingy. Just clarifying that the yellow that’ll be cut will go from the solenoid to the main pack neg? Thanks in advance.

[@jlipcovich]

Oh by the way I purchased the Craftsman Golf 48v/18amp charger you did a review on. My old charger was cooking my batteries.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes, you are correct on the skinny yellow wire.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

@jlipcovich I think the craftsman is still a good charger.

[@thom1879]

so, on a newer club car ds or precedent, if you are using an onboard charger and not using the stock charge receptacle anymore, you really just need to splice the white and blue together, then, right? Then the obc can just be removed?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes, correct. However on newer than 2016, they no longer installed obc 's.

[@lannyhitchcock5728]

Howdy Wayne, The yellow wire from the solenoid, is it a #10 gauge yellow? 2003 Club DS with a SN of AQ0335-

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

no it is small like a # 18

[@danilogomez374]

Wayne, good morning, do you know the difference that it makes when you connect the blue and white together, I did my bypass but didn’t connect the blue and white. I will like to know if I loose a future? Thanks

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

By splicing those together, it will protect the controller from failing or locking out when charging.

[@gtphones]

Hi Wayne, I need your help, money is tight so i am trying my best to do this myself. I have a 99 clubcar ds and i am switching over to lithium. I am trying to bypass my obc bypass. I have the 3 wire set up. Brown, yellow, and red. I found the tubing removed the neagative 10awg and small grey wire from the charger recepticle. I took the 10 ground and placed it on my - battery terminal. I took the yellow wire from the contoller connection and wired it to the negative terminal on my controller along with the 10awg ground wire. I get the reverse buzzer when i turn on the key, but the cart will not move at all. I get the click from the solenoid but no movement. I tried to charge my 4 12v 100ah lithium batteries last night but they did not charge. I have a brand new smart charger and i hooked up the clips it came with. No luck!!!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

As far as the bypass, it sounds like you didn't do it right. The black # 10 wire needs to run from the carts charge receptacle to the main negative on the batteries. The only yellow wire you need to do anything with, is if you have a skinny yellow wire on the solenoid. If you do have this Wire , that wire needs to run from the solenoid to the that same main negative battery terminal.

[@gtphones]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I corrected the wiring on the bypass as instructed. I do have the yellow also on the negative battery terminal from the soleniod. I do have 110 at the controller from the solenoid, but no movement on the cart. Next i will check the switch, but im sure its good. Any ideas what i should check on? Not sure if my controller is fired or what?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

@gtphones I have never heard of 110 volts at a controller, that would absolutely fry the controller.

[@painterleebolt33]

Hey Mr Wayne. Did the bypass on my club car precedent according to video. Now no power. New shauer 48 v charger shows battery charged. But nothing comes on. Where should I look first?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

By no power, what are you referring to? No power the cart won't run, or no power to the charger?

[@jaimeanguiano5977]

Hi wayne on this obc bypass videos I never see anything bout the charger receptor safety feature that is supposed to prevent accidentally driving off while the charger still plugged, how does bypassing obc affect this? or oes the club car have this ,mechanism at all?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Once the obc has been bypassed, you loose that safety feature. I run the charger cord, thru the steering wheel while charging, this reminds me not to drive.

[@davidpendergraft7777]

Wayne, which yellow wire do I cut? I have cut out the gray wire and want to reuse it like you said, just unsure of what yellow wire you describe .

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Only cut the yellow wire, if it is the small skinny yellow that is on the solenoid. do not cut the big fat yellow wire.

[@bills24557]

Wayne, great video. I have an AQ07 a "Precedent DS"? I do not have a yellow wire on the low amp side of selenoid, light blue and blue/white which trace back to mcor 1, not obc. So assuming wired like a Precedent and have white and blue connected. I have everything working except press accelerator and nothing. I don't think signal getting to selenoid?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes by pass like the precedent, splice white and blue wires together at the obc connector. THAT should not affect the running at all. Did u get it running?

[@bills24557]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 no, can't figure out problem but think it is the mcor not sending current to selenoid when step on pedal. Novice at testing electrical current.

[@agustinmalpica504]

Hello Mr Wayne. I did the Loop white and blue wire on my Precedent 2012 and new charger still not charging. What would I miss?? Thanks

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If no skinny yellow on solenoid, then forget about that wire. You touch no wires going to the mcor. If you spliced the blue to the white, at the obc, on the controller side of that gray connector, then the only other thing to do is route the black wire from back of charge receptacle to the main battery pack negative. All that should do it, nothing else. If after doing that, your cart don't run, it's either the batteries or the mcor.

[@thomasbehan6318]

Thanks Wayne. I have a 2003 Club Car DS that I replaced my lead acid batteries with Lithium batteries. I think I screwed up because I removed the entire OBC (not needing it anymore because I have a special charger for the lithium batteries) and cut all the wires from the charging port and then I jumped the white and blue wires. What do I need to do now? Do I need to reconnect the OBC or is there another fix that will work with the removal of the OBC?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Sounds like you did everything correctly. You shouldn't need to di anything else.

[@thomasbehan6318]

Just to clarify, I don't have a Precedent, it is a DS. Your instructions seemed to be different for a DS cart vs. Precedent. Reason I ask again is because I also did a DC/AC motor conversion using the Navitas system. I cannot get the controller to communicate with the bluetooth app. Thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Since you removed your original cart charge receptacle, and are using a new lithium charger, then just the blue and white wires need splicing together, if you have blue and white wires.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

your Bluetooth problem has nothing to do with the obc

[@blakeroberts5438]

Thomas I have a similar problem with my 2001 Club Car DS. I do not have a Blue and White wire at my OBS harness connection. Did you have to reconnect your OBS or did you bypass it and if so did you disconnect form controller.

[@John-lm5xl]

Wayne....this was a GREAT video. So, first off......THANKS! Here is my situation. I have a 1999 Club Car 48V DS. I recently replaced the 6 batteries with a singe LiPo4Fe suitcase battery that I had built. As for the charger, I have a smart charger that charges the battery directly and I do not even use the old charging receptacle in the cart. Currently, the negative cable passes from the negative terminal on the battery....through the OBC....and attaches to the controller. However, I am looking to upgrade my controller, solenoid, F&R Switch and use all 2 gauge wires. I know that I can use a metal bolt to pass through the OBC since the 2g cables are too thick....but my question is....do I still need the OBC? Is it something that I have to have to keep the cart running? Or can I remove it? Thanks in Advance.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

With lithium batteries, yes remove the obc, bypass it completely.

[@John-lm5xl]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Sorry....I had a link in the post that I removed. Thank for such a fast response! So, when I look at my OBC, I have 6 wires that come out of it (and the hole for the negative battery passthrough). Here are the 6 wires... Wires 1 & 2: 1.) Thick black wire in your video that goes to the Charging Plug. 2.) Grey wire that is in your video that shuts off the Charger. Wire 3: 3.) There is another thick black wire that attaches to the B- on the Controller just like the Cable from the battery that passes thru the OBC. Then, out of the OBC, there are 3 more wires that attach to a 3 prong plug: 4.) Red 5.) Yellow 6.) Brown If I remove the OBC completely, what do I do with the Red, Yellow and Brown wires? Just unplug it, rip out the OBC and be done? Or do I need to do something with those 3 wires that are on the the other end of the plug that is connected to the OBC? Thanks again in advance. I just need to be clear with what I need to do so I do not mess it up. :) And I would love to get rid of the OBC. One less thing to break.... If you need pictures or want to FaceTime/video chat.....I am game! Just let me know! Thanks! John

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

John, if you are asking how to bypass, : as shown in video, cut the gray wire off, don't need it. Reroute the #10 black from charge receptacle to main pack negative. Reroute that yellow wire over to pack negative or to controller B-. cap off red wire.Dont need to do anything else except get a different charger.

[@nelson6236]

Can you do a video on how to adjust toe & camber on club car precedent? Thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I will see about that. It is very easy to do. All you need is a jack, a 2' framing square, a 7mm end wrench or socket, and a 1/2" socket and ratchet.

[@stevebruzek7539]

Hi My DS does not have a small yellow wire on the selonoid. It does has the large yellow wire (negative) that goes up to the motor controller. The selenoid has lots of other wires attatched to it. Most from the forward/reverse switch. Looks like they were added at some point. Plus there are 3 wires from the obc, as well as the main black and small grey. A red fused wire going to + selonid. Then a green and yellow sliced into connector that goes to motor controller So I’m confused. The wire i connect from negative battery pack should go to which terminal on the selonoid. ????? Thanks Steve

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you do not have a skinny yellow wire on your solenoid then do not worry about it, Not all cards have this skinny yellow wire

[@stevebruzek7539]

Thanks for the reply. So which terminal on the solenoid do I attach the former grey wire from the main battery negative to? I tried hooking it up to the large negative post and still did not work. Does it go to one of the 2 smaller terminals? Also should I completely remove the OCB now that it is bypasses or does it still provide some function for the car to run. Thanks for your help. Steve

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

you do not hook up the gray wire at all. Its best to remove obc completly

[@stevebruzek7539]

Guess I’m not communication well. I did cut the grey wire out and as you suggested used it to go from main negative battery terminal to the solenoid but don’t know which terminal on the solenoid to attach it to. The is no Yellow wire on solenoid except the big think wire (negative) going to motor controller If you can please re-read my first post completely for what I have on my cart. Again thanks for the replies and sorry if I’m not explaining this well Steve

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

if you do not have a skinny yellow wire on the solenoid now, dont worry about it, not all carts have that.

[@stevebruzek7539]

Hi Me again I’ve done the by pass per your instructions. Yet my charger will not work I think it’s because it does not get the volts from the batteries to the relay to turn it on. The grey wIre that was disconnected provided that. So should I remove or by pass the charger relay to get it to charge? My idea was to put the charger on timer so it does not over charge the batteries. I keep my cart in my garage so having it charge a few hours each day should work Am I on the right track?? Thanks. Steve

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you have a power drive charger, and you did a obc bypass, that charger will no longer work on that cart.

[@stevebruzek7539]

That’s not what you say in your video. You say it will work but not automatically shut off. ??????

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If I actually said that, then I need to change it. You can get the charger to turn on by moving wires around, but it won't turn off. And if you try to use a timer, that is such a bad idea, you will not get the life out of your batteries that you should.

[@stevebruzek7539]

Thanx for the reply

[@Alternativenewstv]

i have a 97 pd+, and the yellow wire that comes from obc goes directly to the t-shaped controller. it is a regen 1. i dont have a yellow wire on neither solenoid.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Follow that yellow wire, and there should be a bullet connector near the controller. Disconnect the yellow wire there, then extend the part of the yellow wire from the controller, to either the controller negative or to the pack negative.

[@antv1928]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thanks

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@chriscurran1514]

Quick question about the yellow wire on the DS... I have 2007 ds and it has 6 wires coming out of the obc to a quick connect. That goes under the cart not to the solenoid. The yellow wire on the solenoid is a thick heavy gauge wire from the controller. Do I cut the small yellow wire coming out of the obc to quick connect or the 1 on top of solenoid?..thanks for the video and your time

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

The yellow wire i am talking about. is a small 18 gauge wire, not the fat #6 wire. Do you not have a 18 Gage wire on your solenoid?

[@jonathanjones20]

Ya I don’t have any small yellow wire Coming out the solenoid

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Rerouting the yellow wire is for older DS carts. Since yours is newer, besides rerouting the # 10 Black , and cutting the gray wire, you should only have to deal with the blue and white wires.

[@jonathanjones20]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 can you give me details on this blue and white wire

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Jonathan, I'm talking to a couple different people on this thread. What year cart and model do you have? What are you trying to do, or what have you done so far?

[@HeyUncleArt]

Hi Wayne! Great videos. I have a 98 ds 48volt and unfortunately I changed the obc and it still won't charge (i tryed another charger)...is there a way to reset that obc since it doesn't have a tow switch.I would like to try before I bypass.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

The only way to reset the obc, is to unhook all power and let cart sit that way for 10 minutes. Then hook back up. If you are positive you have a good working obc, and cart wont charge, try these : Check carts charge receptacle , check # 10 red wire on main positive for corrosion or swelling, check fuse in yellow holder , try tugging a little on the gray wire at back of receptacle to see if it pulls out.

[@coucan8166]

I just bought a controller for my club car and new batteries but my car has lost speed, and after a few trips it starts for a few meters and stops, when I measured the voltage of the batteries they give 7 65 volte instead of 8 volte. I noticed that there is no acid in it. can you explain to me what I should do. thank you

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You bought new batteries, and they are dry, no acid in them? Return them, they may be damaged already. If you have batteries that you drove that are dry, you better fill them with water, and charge them 2 or 3 times before driving again, and see if they will recover.

[@coucan8166]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thanks you

[@hearsayhenderson2623]

Dude.... you are the man

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

😄Thanks

[@ronniehanna2553]

Wayne I have an older club car that does not have a blue and white wire. It has a brown, green, red, and yellow. Any idea how to by pass this one

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes I address that in some videos. If you have a skinny yellow wire on the solenoid, you need to reroute that.

[@cowswithak47s4]

Fantastic video! I just had a '99 Club Car precedent and its expensive Bull-charger go out on me. Instead of spending $600 on a new one, I got one from VEVOR for around $130. With this bypass information, my cart came back to life and actually seems faster. I accidentally did the blue/white loop back on the wrong side of the OBC(with the ensuing non response on the cart), but as soon as I touched the other side of my cut, I heard the solenoid clicking. Thank you so much!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@gprenn]

Hello Wayne. Question for you. Will a Club Car DS 48 volt run with just 5-8 volt batteries? I have one bad battery but the other 5 are fine. The batteries will not charge and I'm thinking it may be the one bad battery that's the issue. Can I just remove that one from the set and see if that's the problem? Thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

it will move a little, but not very far. Yes bypass the battery, charter should still come on

[@gprenn]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thanks so much for your quick reply! I will try that. I also purchased a smart charger and they claimed all I needed to do was to connect the #10 wire they supplied to the charge terminal and the other end to the main negative terminal on the battery to bypass the OBC. That did not work so I'm going to try your OBC bypass instructions. I'll let you know how I make out-Greg.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@gprenn]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Hi again Wayne. Quick question regarding the bypass. After cutting the yellow wire, which end do I splice the gray wire to in order to extend it to the main negative battery terminal. The end coming out of the OBC or the end coming out of the solenoid? Thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

if you have a skinny yellow wire on the solenoid, you want to cut and reroute so it will go from solenoid to the main negative

[@mikecurley7746]

Hi Wayne my name is Mike I have a 2013 48 volt club car is there a fuse that goes to the obc ? My cart stopped working the batteries are at 48 volts the charger works I changed the batteries but the cart don’t work

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

No fuse to the obc, but there is 1 fuse I'm line to the solenoid.

[@mikecurley7746]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ok Thanks I will check the Fuse over the weekend ! Will let you know if it fixes it ! Thanks Again mike

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I answered you in the email.

[@Thedogman11111]

I need help I have 4 Li ion 12 volt 100 ah lynx batteries and doing swap , my cart is a 97 98 model , I going to use a new charger purchased with my batteries , my question is I need to cut the gray and black wires in the charging receptacle that go to the obc , my connector is triangular the connects the obc to the controller , but looks like it has 6 pins , do I need to connect the blue and white wires on this connector and unplug it , my cart is older and doesn’t look exactly like the connectors in your ds

[@Thedogman11111]

I also know I need to connect the yellow solenoid wire to the negative main terminal

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If the gray connector has a white wire and also a blue wire, then you need to splice those together.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@Thedogman11111]

Ty so much

[@koreybosworth5752]

Hello I have a 2016 DS that I can’t get to run. I’ve replaced the motor and solenoid but still nothing. Would this bypass possibly help?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I need more details about your cart. How long has it not run? Did it just stop while driving? How old are the batteries? Can you lift the seat and take pictures of the entire battery area, so I can see all the batteries, the wires, and the everything there? You can text them to me at 760 393 1314

[@toledojeeper2932]

Did the bypass and at first the cart wouldn’t move but solenoid did click . After holding down the pedal for a while the cart started to move , it does randomly not move when I stop but after letting up and pushing down again on the pedal it moves . I rechecked all the wires snd everything is tight .

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I cannot guess what year and model cart that you have. Why did you do the bypass? After doing bypass does cart charge with your new charger? Which new charger did you buy?

[@toledojeeper2932]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 …It’s a 2003 Club Car DS . I’m going to lithium batteries within the next 2 weeks that’s why I deleted the obc . I did the delete Friday and since Friday night I have not had a problem and everything seems fine now . Did something have to be energized ? I’m using a Modz smart charger .

[@toledojeeper2932]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 …There was a black ground wire that went from the obc to what looks like a grounding post . I have not heard anyone mention this when they talk about the obc bypass . I just took the wire completely out since the obc is gone .

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You did correctly

[@toledojeeper2932]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 …I’m hoping it was just a small glitch that won’t come back . Or maybe something else on the cart is going bad and it’s just a coincidence it happened right then .

[@kitmaestretti9049]

Hi again Wayne I got my connectors and a new charger Mod z MAX that supposedly works with or without the OBC. So, before I started cutting wires as you explained, I decided to just try the charger on my Club Car DS 1997 and whlle the voltage across the battery pack (six 8v trojans) was about 49v, it went up to 51v after a few minutes and now the amber light doesn't blink on and off and the cart runs great. Could this new charger have "reset" the OBC? I'm now not inclined to cut the wires and rewire. thoughts?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Try it for a few days, and see.

[@kitmaestretti9049]

Hi Wayne. After a few days with no blinking amber light, it started again on and off about every 5 seconds. But yesterday it stopped again and has been fine for two days with no blinking at all. So, it seems I can get by just charging up with my Mod Z and not cut out the OBC. What should the voltage be on a fully charged 48v system of six Trojan 8v batteries. I get up to 55v usually before I stop charging so could leave it going longer. I'm really curious as to what the intermittent OBC failure might be....just curious.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

On a typical club car set up, the volts go up as the amps go down. So near the end of the charge, some times the volts are 60. I am not familiar with your charger, but I would be skeptical if it works without bypassing the obc.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

No, with the Summit 2 you Do need to do a bypass.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you buy a summit 2 that has the round club car connector, you need to do a bypass. If you are hooking directly to the batteries, it may charge the batteries, but the obc is still active, and can go into lock down on you.

[@clayvarley9213]

I switched my cart to lithium so I needed to do bypass. I have a precedent. I just wired the back from the charger straight into my pack I didn't any of the other wires. What issues will this cause?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I'm trying to read your comment. I think you said you wired the black from your charger ( I guess you have an on board charger?). Then you didn't do? to any other wires. I think you are saying you didn't touch any other wires? You still need to slice the blue and the white wire, like I did in the video.

[@clayvarley9213]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900I took the black over coming out of the charger port and wired that straight to the battery. Lithium charger worked after that. Worked without issue for probably 20 miles. Cart cut out going up hill and now will take off full speed then either cut out completely or slows down to 8ish MPH.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

can you text or email me pictures of your entire battery area ? So I can see all wires?

[@clayvarley9213]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 sent you a text. It's hard to see from the pictures though

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Got no text. My number is as shown 760 393 1314

[@gizmoramit]

I have a 2005 Club Car President and want to convert my batteries over to Lithium. Do I have to bypass the OBC?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Yes you do

[@johnromero1887]

I have a 98 club car ds that sometimes works fine. Other times it acts like it goes to move but doesn't and i also do not hear solenoid clicking. Any idea of what it could be? F/R switch is brand new. I'm thinking possibly solenoid but someone mentioned about lock out feature and the obc thinking the cart is charging

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If solenoid is not clicking, then it's gonna be batteries, key switch, loose connection, bad solenoid, or the mcor/vglide .

[@johnromero1887]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ok sounds good. Key switch is good because I jumped it and still nothing.

[@johnnymcdowell9110]

did the bypass i had to leave the gray wire hooked up my charger wouldnt work with out it just have to keep an eye on it charging until i get new parts

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Sounds like you didn't do it properly, if you are still using your old charger.

[@Flyfishing57]

Thanks Waune, Complicated one going on, I have a 96 ds club car. Runs great, forward and reverse. wont charge tho, charger works on a 95 perfectly. Found broken gray wire coming out of fuse , going to replace it but I did a by pass of the fuse just to test to no avail, all other wire ohm out ok but can the controller still alow cart to run if just charging portion is bad?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes cart will run until batteries die. You need to replace the charge receptacle on your cart, and that should fix your issue.

[@Flyfishing57]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 are there any schematics on the obc as to what they are looking for or should I say a trouble shoot manual?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

not that I am aware of. If your charger works on another cart, but not yours, that tells you the problem is in your cart, not the charger.

[@Flyfishing57]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thank you. Was looking for the receptical on your ebay, dod not find it, do you carry it?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

It is cheaper on Amazon with free shipping, less than 30 bucks.

[@smille5291]

on a 09 Precedent does the grey wire send a ground from the controller back to the charger ? I put the grey wire from the receptacle to the negative along with the black wire from receptacle it is charging but will it do anything to the charger and from the sounds of things I don't need the grey wire at all ?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you are doing a bypass, you do not need the gray wire at all. If you tied it to the negative, that's OK but not needed.

[@smille5291]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thanks Wayne, I disconnected the grey wire and the charger stopped then reconnected it started again do I need a different charger to run it without that grey wire

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you did a bypass, then your old charger will no longer work properly for you, you need to get a charger for a cart that has a bypassed obc.

[@patrickdipaolo1762]

I did the bypass on 2002 D's club car, and my smart charger now shows voltage charging but don't show the amps just 0.0. Is this normal when I had charged the 48v system direct on battery pack it showed the amps and voltage charging, I cut the gray with fuse at receptacle and cut the black near obc and connected to 48 bank negative....plugged in a d connected 48v smart charger and shows voltage but 0.0 amps

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Sounds like your charger is not charging. If you did the bypass correctly, and you got a charger for a bypassed battery, then all should be good. Also I have not seen a D charge receptacle on a club car, only on an ezgo.

[@patrickdipaolo1762]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 It is 2002 club car DS with 3 prong plug I purchased a deleeb C30 smart charger 2 wires going to the plug for the cart red and black, I DID NOT FIND THE SOLENIOD WITH YELLOW WIRE, THE CART RUNS WITH THE BLACK FROM RECEPTACLE CUT AND ATTACHED TO BANK NEGATIVE AND THE GRAY CUT...ONLY THING IS SHOWING NO AMPS ON CHARGER JUST VOLTS CHARGER KICKS ON SHOWING 58 VOLTS AND 0.0 AMPS WHEN I CONNECT CHARGER TO BANK POSITIVE AND BANK NEGATIVE IT SHOWES VOLTS AND AMPS

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If charger is showing 58 Volts, then it should be charged, with no amps flowing! Drive cart some, then plug charger in, and you should see both volts and amps while charger is charging, not once it is charged or off.

[@patrickdipaolo1762]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I found the problem the eyes on the cables going to the charger where it screws tight on front of the charger were larger than the one that came with it. I ordered longer cables so I could keep the charger in the outside attached she'd and drilled a hole just large enough to put the cables through to the covered carport where I park the cart.I put 2 small washers on the connection behind the eyes of the cables and hooked it up and bingo I now have VOLTS and amps charging and the cart runs good now. You were right it was not charging due to it drawing no amps due to the connection the charger was doing nothing.......Thanks Wayne ....I guess the bypass was done correct the only 2 wires I used was the black to 48 bank negative from the receptacle I cut close to the obc rerouted and connected. And then I cut the gray with yellow fuse holder near the receptacle..

[@tonykulik2964]

Can you install a Lester summit 2 that connects directly to the battery without bypassing the OBC?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

you can, but it won't work correctly

[@frankstith7800]

Thanks for explaining that OBC stands for On-Board Computer.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@JulianLittleton]

My 1998 club car ds only has the 3 pin connector that goes to the OBC. Colors are Red, white and black. I'm lost and I've been trying to find a diagram or another video with my same set up. You have advice me Wayne?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

what are you trying to do?

[@dennisfrier3191]

I have an old 1995 DS Club Car. It has brand new batteries, but it won't move unless I "play" with the Go pedal , if I move it back and forth it will suddenly Take off and run , until I stop, then I have to play with it again . Help ! Any ideas ?

[@emilgabl9069]

Hey, man did you fix the problem? I have the same problem. Please help

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I would say either a micro switch on the f/r or the vglide.

[@bpneeley1ify]

Do you have any videos of preparing controller or do you know any are?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

There is no repairing of controllers, you need to have it rebuilt.

[@joras7457]

Why not just take out the fuse on the grey ?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you are talking about bypassing the obc, you can remove the gray wire fuse instead of cutting the wire off, if that's what you want to do.

[@samgentry5788]

I have a 2002 ds and don’t have the yellow wire to the solenoid. I read the guys comment who has an 04 with the same thing. After I splice my blue and white wire together do I need to plug back in the connector to the obc?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you don't have yellow wire, don't worry about it the . If you splice the blue and white BEFORE THE PLASTIC CONNECTOR then you don't need to plug it back in.

[@brucesmith3652]

do a video on how to install Roypow on board charger for Club Car president

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You can see how to install the charger on board, in a couple of my roypow videos already. UNLESS, you have the newer roypow charger that has the green cord, they are different.

[@brucesmith3652]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 yes, sir. I have the one with the green power cord.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

ok, what came with the charger, a whip with 2 wires hanging out, or a short adapter with cord caps on both ends?

[@brucesmith3652]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 a short adapter with a cap on both ends

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Not the best answer. The new charger with the green cord makes it a pain to cleanly wire onboard. No problem with the 110v cord, you can wire that like I do in my videos. I even sell the custom plate on my ebay store. But in order to wire the other end for onboard, you have 3 options : # 1-'You can reuse the original cart receptacle, by wiring it to the roypow unit, then plugging in the adapter, and leaving the receptacle laying inside the bucket area. # 2--Get different lithium charger, you can use one from Allied, that will wire directly to the roypow, like I do in my videos. # 3-- Roypow has a whip, that plugs into the charger and the other end just has 2 wires hanging out, that you attach to the roypow unit.

[@LarryThompson-cl8qr]

How do I bypass the obc when going to lithium on a 48v 1996 club car ds. I tried to do what this video stated and it didn’t work

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I don't know how it couldn't work? Very easy, reroute black # 10 wire from cart charge receptacle to main battery negative. Then reroute the skinny yellow wire from solenoid, so it goes from solenoid to that same main negative terminal, nothing else.

[@earthage3020]

I have a Club Car Powerdrive 3 Charger that I need to use on a 48 Volt Forklift battery and I am not sure what to do with the 3rd Blue Wire. Do I need to by an OBC and connect it somehow (to the Solar trailer)? Any comments would be appreciated. A 3 Wire Plug to a 2 Wire Anderson Connector is what I need to accomplish. Never Done this before,

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

That charger won't for you, you need a different charger

[@earthage3020]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 There must be a way to make it work. Let me know if you have any suggestions over the next few days. I am going to (at least) try to make it work.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You can make it turn on, but it wont turn off

[@earthage3020]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 So if I wire Just the Red and Black Wires, and leave the Blue disconnected, you are telling me that it will (probably) charge the 48V Battery Bank, but will Not stop charging on its own: but will have to be Monitored and shut off manually: is that Correct? Or do I some have to wire up the Blue wire (to something)?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You have to do some wiring in the charger to make it come on, but yes it will not turn off by itself. Your forklift has a round club car receptacle on it ?

[@psarokasela5377]

Did this on my ds and now it wont move at all. The solenoid doesn't click. I have the one thats like the precedent with the white and blue wires

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If it doesn't run now, but did before, then something is not hooked up correctly. You can email or text me info and pictures, and I can help you.

[@MrLefeavers]

Dpi charger died so I bought a links from Battery source, worked great for a couple months then Quit working on my 2000 DS. Still worked on friends DS. Sold Links charger and bought eagle performance charger from battery source. golf cart still runs fine just won’t charge. They said just run negative charger receptacle wire to final negative battery. Did not charge, then followed your instructions with yellow wire from solenoid to negative battery and no charge still and cart stopped working. Replaced yellow wire back to controller. Cart runs again but still no charge. Any suggestions? Thx!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

First thing to check is the # 10 red wire from charge receptacle to main pack positive. Make sure the ring terminal or end of wire is not corroded or swelled up. Then run black from cart receptacle to main pack negative. If you have a skinny yellow wire on the solenoid, reroute that to main negative. Not the fat yellow wire.

[@MrLefeavers]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I did everything and still No charge. Cart still runs. Could there be anything wrong with the new charger, plug has bottom prong slightly shorter than +/- prongs. Is that normal? The guy from battery source says to rewrite everything back to normal and just add jumper from charger receptacle negative to main pack negative. Also I managed to damage the fuse on the charger receptacle so I just strait wired it hoping the new eagle performance charger would manage. Maybe I’ll go try a friend’s factory charger and set timer for 20-30 minutes at a time

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

maybe you have the wrong model charger. What is exact model number and brand charger ?

[@MrLefeavers]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thank you very much for you help

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I think you have the wrong charger

[@marshallpatronas2681]

I bypassed the once and my new charger completely charged the batteries but now it won’t run. Need help please.

[@marshallpatronas2681]

Once above is obc

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Text me more info. year And model of cart, what charger you bought, and also tell me exactly which wires you did something to and what you did

[@gnjcs]

I just did the obc delete, it will charge now but will not move forward or reverse. I have followed all your instructions here. Any suggestions?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I assume you meant you did a bypass? Did you get a new charger? What model and year cart do you have? Is the tow switch in run? Tell me what all you did?

[@gnjcs]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 it is a 2007 club car ds, i completely removed the obc. Ran the #10 black wire from the charger port to the last negative battery. Spliced the white and blue wires together.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

sounds like you did it right. Text me pictures of your wiring so I can see the wiring you did as well as everything under the seat so I can see all the batteries and wires

[@gnjcs]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 took some pictures, sent them to your number, let me know if you got them.

[@Mike-ei5pk]

@@gnjcs I have the same problem. I connected all the wires the way you did, but my cart is not moving in forward or reverse when i press the pedal. Can you share the fix for this? I also have a 2007 club car ds

[@Flyfishing57]

Hi Wayne, thanks for all your help, Do you sale or have a recommendation for a brand on by pass chargers? The one I found on Amazon had bad reviews

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I think the best charger for a bypassed club car is the summit 2.

[@hairtrigger903]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 summit 2 is great

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

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[@patrickfrank366]

How do I know if I have a DS or president? And Why don’t I just replace the obc?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You can certainly replace the obc, no worries there. A precedent has a rounded front cowl A ds is kind of boxed looking front end.,

[@christophercasola4791]

Thanks for the video wayne, I need more info on the yellow wire though. So, once i cut the yellow wire, do i connect the gray wire to the end that goes into the obc, or the other end that goes to the connector. I have a 2000 ds. Thank you

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

you need to make that yellow wire go from the solenoid to the main battery negative.

[@jonathanjones20]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 is it the thick yellow wire that gose to the controller?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

The yellow wire should be a skinny 18 gauge wire. It usually goes from obc to solenoid. You need to make it go from solenoid to B- on controller or to the main pack negative

[@davidallison976]

Wayne, on my 99 DS with regan solenoid, the yellow wire is not there? The heavy gauge yellow goes from B+ on controller to solenoid. The 18guage yellow comes out of the 15 pin connector on controller to OBC. Does this need to go to negative?

[@davidallison976]

Or do I just take the B- black wire and run a jumper to main pack negative?

[@rogerrainey2260]

I just put in Lithiumbatterys and it messed up the OBC so I did what you said I have an Alltrax 400 controller and talking with them they said that it was the OBC and I did the white wire and blue wire and it still not opening up the solenoid what do you think

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

First. I have a hard time believing the lithium batteries " messed up" your obc. Which lithiums did you install? What is or is not happening? What is the issue you are having?

[@whitneyowens6430]

Does anyone know which yellow wire he’s talking about coming from the solenoid? I only have a 6g yellow cable. Help.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you don't have the skinny yellow wire, then forget about it, not all have that wire.

[@IvanMcCorkle]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 this is my issue...I have a 97 club car 48 volt. This apparently is a regen 1 cart. I have two solenoids that I'm pretty darn sure don't have the skinny yellow wire going to either one. However, besides the black and gray wires...i also have a yellow and green wire coming out of the back of the OBC and goes to the old club car black controller and not the solenoids. Do I need to worry about these green and yellow wires? Thank for the straight forward advice. Great channel.

[@terrystedt7927]

Howdy Wayne. I’m installing allied lithium batteries in my 2003 club car ds and I’m trying to bypass my obc but I have the triangular obc connector with no blue and white wire to connect together. What do I do now?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Do you have a small yellow wire going to the solenoid? Don't worry about the blue and white, if you don't have them.

[@terrystedt7927]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Yes i have a yellow 18 gauge wire with a spade connector that goes to the solenoid.

[@terrystedt7927]

Do I run that yellow wire to the main negative on the lithium 48v 30amp battery pack and forget about the brown and red wires on the triangular connector?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Then besides rerouting the #:10 black wire from back of cart receptacle, to the main battery pack negative, unhook the gray wire, then reroute that small yellow wire so it will go from solenoid ( where 1 end of wire already is ) and the other end needs to go to either main battery pack negative or to the B- terminal on the controller.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

yes forget those other 2 wires, cut them you won't be using them.

[@xrprealist2538]

Great video. Can you recommend a good bypass charger

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I use the Summit 2 chargers for by pass carts. I tried the DPI chargers and was totally disappointed with them.

[@AdamWisecup]

I use the MODZ Max48 15 AMP, and it works well on my old Trojan T875 batteries. MODZ Max48 15 AMP Club Car... www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPWD14K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@mrdee423]

Hey Wayne, I've got a 36v converted to 48v ds . Is there anyway I can bypass the 48v power drive charger so I don't have to purchase a new charger?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

you can bypass the charger, but it will never shut off by itself

[@mrdee423]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 no worries I've got a timer switch plugged into the power on the wall. Can you explain how to without telling how so you don't have any liability. Lol

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

you have a 48 volt charger and a 48 volt cart?

[@mrdee423]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 correct minus the obc and controller. Just v-glide and resistor coils.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

ok I'm very confused whatever you have, but it doesn't matter, let's not talk about the cart. Inside the charger, remove the small black jumper wire that goes from the breaker to the relay, take it out. Then pull the other wire that is on the bottom of the relay, and plug it onto the breaker

[@davemeyer-vp4sf]

Hi Wayne! I have a 98 clud car ds. I installed an on board Summit Ii charger. I've removed the charger receptacle and direct wired the charger to the batteries. My question is where do i connect the blue wire from the charger - it connected to the negative terminal on the charger. I believe this stops the cart from running while plugges in. Thanks!

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

I think you are correct, and if it ran to the negative before, I would hook it up to the negative terminal again.

[@darrincoulombe7056]

My 2004 ds doesn’t have a small yellow wire on the solenoid. A solid blue and blue with white stripe.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Ok I agree, so are you asking me something?

[@darrincoulombe7056]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 what do I do if there is no small yellow wire. You’re video doesn’t address that. But in other questions and comments you tell them to connect the blue and white wires.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you don't have a small Yellow wire, or a blue and white at the obc, then don't worry about it, nothing else to do besides # 10 black

[@mrpeterpumpkin48]

Thank you. 🙏👍

[@JosePineda-uk7pd]

Hi Wayne, question is better to do this bypass o replace the Obc?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Money wise, its almost the same cost either way. 1 advantage is of you bypass the obc, you will never have trouble with that again. Another advantage, is you need a new charger, so end result will be you should have a newer and beer charger. THERE is only 1 model of the obc that is still available for less than 250.00, that is for a very old model, and that is the only 1 that will be cheaper to replace the obc than bypass it, that is assuming you are doing the work yourself. I myself, bypass obcs, rather than replace on all my carts.

[@JRLogan-x2c]

I recently did the bypass and bought a new charger. Charger comes on but will not shut off

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

You might not be waiting long enough to see if it turns off. Usually if it will turn itself on, it will also turn itself off.

[@JRLogan-x2c]

@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 it ran for 4 hrs never shut off. The voltage meter started goin backwards so I unplugged it. Voltage never got over 59

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

Amps should go backwards, and 4 hours is not enough.

[@JRLogan-x2c]

Ok thank you Mr Wayne I will leave it on longer and see

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

👍

[@robertamahar4984]

I don't have another charger would you find one that will charge my cat how can I tell if my OBC is working no other charges available can you help me out

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

If you are asking if I have any used chargers, yes I do. If you can hear the relay inside your charger click when you plug the cord into the cart, and charger comes on and charges, and also turns off, the obc should be ok

[@leonardogle6198]

I have a question, my 95 DS will run just fine when the ambient temp is below 50 degrees, but above 60 my cart is dead. Have you ever run into such a situation and could it be the OBC?

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

No haven't heard of that before. No don't think it has anything to do with the obc.

[@leonardogle6198]

@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I kinda figured you would say that, which means that I am going to spend some time chasing wire to see if I can find the culprit. Thank you.

[@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900]

How old are your batteries?