How to Calculate Margin of Safety? Learn 3 Unique Methods | Ben Graham & The Intelligent Investor

[@PaulMaddela]

Shankar I have to tell you that by simply watching your videos and then researching on and reading books written by folks you introduced such as one up on wallstreet by Peter Lynch and little book that beats the market by Joel greenblat i am able to create my own methodologies to invest. I am stress free while investing now by simply absorbing the knowledge you have shared. Thank you for another banger!!!

[@shankarnath]

Thank you very much Paul. Very happy to read this note & you nailed my objective of starting this channel -- I want to be a part of and build a community of learners. Thx for being a part of it & while not all videos will be bangers, I assure you there will be something to learn, improve & adapt in most videos which'll give us that little edge in investing & in analysing other life situations

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[@shankarnath]

Thank you Sandeep for your kind words of encouragement. Knowledge goes through cycles and I'm certain the current flock of new-to-investing beginners will want to learn advanced concepts in the lines of what I teach on my channel. I think I'm sowing the seeds for them now .. so that when they are ready, they have cooked food to feast on.

[@harikrishnanchandramohan4209]

@@shankarnath On one end, experts preach time in the market. On the other end, the same experts talk about margin of safety. But don't they contradict each other.

[@DurairajT]

(1/Price to Earning) >=0.07 AND Market Capitalization > 500 AND (((Sales/((Net block + Net block preceding year)/2))*NPM last year * (1-Dividend Payout Ratio))-Depreciation)>Sales growth As shown in the video by Shankar JI.

[@dheerajkukal8475]

The amount of Trust i have in Shankar sir is that first i like the video and then watch. I am so confident that i will definitely learn something from the video. Thank you Shankar sir for sharing all the learnings.

[@shankarnath]

So nice of you. But as the Russian proverb goes: Trust but verify .. which is why I'll always encourage to put the learnings into action and see the impact yourself.

[@RajeshKumar-ut3mu]

Excellent Video Shankar Sir and Dr.Vijay Malik is master of Fundamental Analysis of stocks.

[@shankarnath]

Thank you very much!

[@Jyyo]

Lovely video, Dr. Vijay is a gem, great to see you referencing him

[@shankarnath]

Thanks!

[@thyagtubes]

I was about to ask for Screener formula…but you did include it in the last couple of minutes. Thanks a lot!!

[@shankarnath]

You are welcome

[@AbhaySingh08]

you put a lot of hardwork in educating common folks like me....more power to you... keep up shankar!

[@shankarnath]

Thank you very much Abhay

[@TRAVELGUIDETIPSbyVivek]

I had taken Dr malik subscription earlier. Nothing to write about though but he is very knowledgeable, no question about that.

[@jayadevtn1987]

Hello sir, had to watch this video 3 times inorder to clearly understand the concept (probably the first two times I was not concentrating enough), but now things are much clearer. I did try to run the query and with the filters u mentioned , am getting the below list via screener. Am not quiet sure if this is correct or if I applied something wrong with the query. Please find my stocks below. 1. Binny 2. Manaksia 3. Shriram properties 4. Equitas small finance bank Ltd.

[@shankarnath]

Glad you understood the crux of what Dr. Malik was saying. The core of the concept is the business's margin of safety. Also, good to know you applied the screener .. and atleast in my opinion, a screener does not do good justice to this concept. In my opinion, margin of safety as I explained in this video should be treated like an investing principle and not as much a stock selection rule. HUL was an example I inserted on purpose to explain how an exceedingly valuable stock might have some inherent hiccups in its business model that we might be ignoring. More work needs to be done on this topic I feel .. but thanks for going through the rigour. Hope you learnt something

[@jayadevtn1987]

@@shankarnath very much. I did feel the concept was more important than the screener . Thanks for reassuring that. Also thanks for sharing your knowledge , I have learned most of the knowledge from mutual funds , till whatever little i know about stocks mostly from you and few other channels.

[@MrVeer58]

Thanks for clear explanation of Margins of Safety. HUL has low SSGR but good CASH Flow. Should one invest in it ?

[@shankarnath]

Most welcome. Apologies, I have not analyzed HUL so don't have an opinion on it

[@MrVeer58]

@@shankarnath You have explained about 3 methods for calculating Margin of Safety. Amongst the 3, which one is most reliable ?

[@harshwardhanranasaria8704]

Awesome work, Shankar ji, I m a Finance Professor, get to learn a lot from you.

[@shankarnath]

Thank you Harshwardhan ji. The world of finance is wide and deep .. we are all learning something everyday from blogs, videos, news, podcasts and even tweets.

[@lisboaprince4513]

your presentation skills are superb

[@shankarnath]

Thank you very much!

[@mohangopalan1937]

Great learning 👍

[@shankarnath]

Thank you, glad you found it useful

[@epicenteryt]

Dr. Vijay mallik is indeed very underrated

[@shankarnath]

True. I just love his posts

[@sheikmydeen4362]

Recently started viewing your channel. The way of your research just awesome. It is giving new way of idea and thinking in the world of personal finance. I need a clarity on one thing which i am not getting clarified anywhere. you are the correct person to answer it. I want to invest Mutual funds for 7-10 years with 15% ROI expectation. To achieve this i want invest aggresive plans. My choices are 1. Nifty50 index , 10yrs ROI 12.9% 2 . Technology fund , 10 yrs ROI 21.7% 3. Midcap fund , 10yrs ROI 18.9% 4 . Conservative Hybrid ( THis is for balancing and investing during market fall ) . ROI 9.3% Allocation is 25% each. I had a doubt 4th fund to go Equity only or Conservative fund for re-investing during market fall ? By doing extra investment during market fall of 20% or more it will good to achieving the goal of 15% . Please suggest or add some points into next videos.

[@shankarnath]

Thank you very much, Sheik. I have a video on how I position my own portfolio, maybe that can help. I should mention that I don't have any big expectations like 15% ROI from this portfolio but still I think you'll find some useful info there. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH-YgpeujpiFjNU

[@drshn_h]

Nice illustrative video👍. Is this from any post from Dr. Vijay? Any link to the article would be appreciated. Thanks.

[@shankarnath]

Thanks. I have already tagged the article in the video's description. As a practice, I add most sources and additional reading material in the description for everyone's benefit. Enjoy!

[@jaikishansmspl39]

Thank you for sharing the concept

[@shankarnath]

Most welcome!

[@sagarodedra6104]

Thank you sir. Nice video

[@shankarnath]

Most welcome

[@sangramjog5882]

RAN QUERY ON SCREENER - PUBLISHED AS SHANKER NATH 3 POINT FORMULA - THANK YOU SIR

[@shankarnath]

Most welcome! Shankar's spelling is a bit incorrect :)

[@salaudeenph9699]

useful sir thank you

[@shankarnath]

So nice of you

[@pardhumurali1206]

The content was very informative and refreshing

[@shankarnath]

Glad to hear! Thank you Pardhu

[@karthikeyanv463]

Thanks Shankar. Another informative presentation,,👍👌

[@shankarnath]

Glad you liked it

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Please share important books on investing concepts

[@DevNeerajSharma]

Keep up the amazing work Shankar..

[@shankarnath]

Thanks a ton

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Kudos, you got a new subscriber. Quality content ❤️

[@shankarnath]

Welcome aboard!

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Very informative video..Happy to subscribe your channel.

[@shankarnath]

Welcome aboard!

[@amanrathod9043]

Very informative video👍 Good job Shankar

[@shankarnath]

Thank you so much 🙂

[@anudevmadhu902]

Superb learned something new

[@shankarnath]

Glad to hear that

[@hemanthkaja]

Intriguing video as always. I looked in the screener using the parameters used here and somehow it seems to be the secret recipe for banks, state run companies, Asset management and infra companies 😂 Any idea as to why this would be the case?

[@shankarnath]

Thanks. 1. The SSGR and the FCF methods are not apt for evaluating financial companies including banks and AMCs. These are applicable more for traditional manufacturing and service companies. 2. I am surprised you are receiving PSUs and infrastructure companies in your screener. Given their low sales-to-NFA and poor retention ratio, these should have been weeded out. Ofcourse, there is the cyclicity factor and if you are examining just 1 year of data then the sales and profit margins will be deceptively high which'll not present the right picture. Kindly be vary of that and as practice, pls use normalized earnings and sales numbers

[@hemanthkaja]

@@shankarnath I was surprised too. I too believe it is the cyclical factor that brings these stocks into the list.

[@GoutamDey]

Shankar thanks for your insightful videos which I am really a fan off. One suggestion for you to consider and that is proving some sharable screener for people like us to start with to understand and may be tweak here and there to understand it more about the concepts like this video. Again thanks a lot for your awesome contents .

[@shankarnath]

Most welcome, Goutam. I do share screeners wherever possible. There are screeners in 6 videos so far. In 4 additional videos, I have attached excel worksheets that viewers can play around with.

[@GoutamDey]

@@shankarnath great thanks for sharing. Thank once again.

[@chemistrycorner6874]

To me Dr. Vijay Malik's blogs are bible to do fundamental analysis of any stock....

[@jaikrishnank428]

Great work Shankar

[@shankarnath]

Thank you!

[@vikasnarang83]

In my view free cashflow is the most important but underrated signal of how a bus is doing.

[@arvindsharma3995]

great

[@shankarnath]

hurray

[@deepanshuarorashorts]

Margin of safety is the real cushion which we should not forget while buying a stock.

[@harikrishnanjavahar6718]

Really informative.

[@shankarnath]

Glad you liked it. I loved it as a concept .. the "margin of safety of a business" is something I hadn't thought of.

[@harikrishnanjavahar6718]

@@shankarnath concept of ssgr was new to me. Margin of safety 🦺🙏

[@RashidPremier]

More power to you from Pakistan

[@shankarnath]

Thank you!

[@Jyyo]

I have a request, since we are almost at the peak of high debt yields or mostly likely to taper down. Folks around me tend to understand your explanations more than mine, trying to convince few of my elder relatives that they might be safer of with bonds 😇

[@shankarnath]

I've recorded a video on 5 alternative fixed income investment products. I'll release it on Saturday & the objective of the video is to help people diversify their fixed income portfolio beyond debt funds or fixed deposits. Come to think of it FD, most debt funds carry the same fate i.e. interest drops, defaults, banking sector hiccups -- this video explore some opportunity areas. Hope you like it

[@rajkumarr4209]

Excellent sir

[@shankarnath]

Thanks!

[@AB00730]

Very nice

[@shashi3378]

Nice video

[@shankarnath]

Thanks

[@ramyasri6093]

Even i have read Dr. Vijay Malik articles. They are good. But sir the companies which you mentioned as having more cash flow are not high growth right. Sometimes too much cash flow means lack of growth opportunities.. especially for large cap IT companies

[@shankarnath]

Yes Ramya Sri & that's why a screener is never my most trusted weapon, it should not be considered the brahmastra of stock selection. Every company will have pros and cons .. and growth rate, cash flow, management, valuation etc. all metrics one needs to examine

[@ramyasri6093]

@@shankarnath true sir . Requesting you to make a video regd. Qualitative aspects of business . Especially from corporate governance point of view .. please give few points to retail investors as to which type & kind of companies to avoid

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Sir if you make reels on finance your channel growth📈 will be significant

[@shankarnath]

Thanks for the suggestion, Nikhil

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Can you please explain full video on EDELWEISS FINANCIAL LMT COMPANY

[@sms9865]

Great video 😊😊

[@shankarnath]

Thanks

[@nabeelyahiya]

Excellent again. It was good decision not to give names of stocks with margin of safery😊👍

[@shankarnath]

Thanks Nabeel. Yes, the point of the video was not to give stock names but to give an understanding of the concept. I tried it on 5-6 of my stocks (not screener but actually calculated the values normalizing some of the values to account for covid years & business cycles) and the process gave me some more ideas on recognizing MOS.

[@sampathkumar3110]

i find that your videos have content which is more than a one hour lecture .

[@shankarnath]

Thanks! There is a lot of preparation that goes into making these videos. It takes me 35-40 hours to produce a 15-minute piece of content i.e. time spent on researching, scripting, revising, pre-shoot planning, recording, post-production, description, thumbnail, commenting etc.

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Waiting for this video sir

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It's more of finance class then Investing. Anway's, it has valuable info which is of not my type.

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NIIT LTD share ke bare me bataiye

[@s0ulweaver]

What about margin of safety using PEG ratio? Can we compare PB to that stocks historical average or median PB?

[@shankarnath]

Hi, 1. How would the formula work with PEG ratio? I mean, what is the PEG ratio be compared with? 2. I haven't seen any visible benefits of comparing current PB with historical average or median PB

[@s0ulweaver]

@@shankarnath 1. Comparing the PEG ratio with it's historical average perhaps? And comparing with industry average? 2. Noted

[@fearless5973]

how averaging the growth rate is 8.9% . its coming to be 15.35

[@shaikakber4717]

❤

[@vidya014]

Try these: PE (fair) = D/E weighted Average(ROE,Gni,Gtotal_equity) = (ROE+Gni+Gtotal_equity)/3 ÷ (1 + D/E) Margin Of Safety = [ Quoted P/E ÷ PE (fair) ] - 1 G = Growth ni = Net Income

[@Prim0rdiaL7]

Shankar ji, please write and pin a community post listing a few books that beginner, intermediate and advanced investors should read. Topics could range from personal finance to macroeconomics. Just for us to get a better idea about how the world of finance works.

[@shankarnath]

Hello Debarun - I'll try. In each of my videos, I have a section on "Some Useful Readings/Resources" where I list books, articles, websites, videos and even twitter thread which can further one's understanding of that topic. Maybe, you can start with these

[@PrasanthBenjamin]

With margin of safety we reduce the downside risk, does it reduce the upside potential?

[@shankarnath]

Hi, why did you think of that premise? A context will help

[@saurabhsgkp]

I think Debt Capacity Margin is also an important metric. Read an article by Bakshi Sir on it . Your view on it .....

[@shankarnath]

I am sure it is

[@prdudi5939]

Really great video sir and it would be better if you can speak in Hindi. Thank you

[@shankarnath]

Thanks

[@129prashant]

👍

[@amareshpradhan5160]

You are good but needs marketing skills to attract subscriber

[@shankarnath]

Thank you for your feedback

[@debkumarbiswas9927]

SSGR measure is a suspect at best.

[@shankarnath]

What are your points against it?

[@ambedkarpodeti]

Namaskaram, thanks for the video.. Can you suggest stock of the month for investing purpose... I am still learning the concepts about stock market but it will take sufficient time... Also, recently I received a phone number in the message in KZbin chat from you... Starting from +1.. I had a doubt whether it's real or fake.. otherwise u can show your phone number in the video itself to avoid the confusion. Thank you 🙏

[@shankarnath]

Hello Ambedkar ji: I don't share my phone number/whatsapp details with anyone.

[@ambedkarpodeti]

@@shankarnath Ok .. but be careful... Someone is trying to take advantage... If you want to know about that number, i can share the screenshot to your email..

[@shankarnath]

@@ambedkarpodeti Thanks! I have enabled Spam Alert on KZbin and changed it to "Strict" now. This will keep most spam messages out although 1-2 will creep in from time to time.

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Sir, Pls share your mail id