How to Catch a CHEATER in Undisputed - Will we get ANTI-CHEAT on Launch?

[@shootthefade585]

Maybe I was wrong and it’s a server problem and u say I abused uppercuts but I threw 11 more than u do I don’t know how to cheat nor do I ever remember our game crashing afterwards

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Ok glad you responded, good man. So exploit wise the problem was specifically the "southpaw" "body" uppercut because of its tight tracking and ability to punch through your block. You combine that strike with gliding or diagonal dodge, you're likely to achieve a stun state, (even if i hit first, I've demonstrated it in past vids). *Regarding cheating* , I followed YOUR guidebook on how to spot a cheater 🤷🏽‍♂️. The process: You'd move in slow motion, then back to normal, and towards the end you remained in slow motion until I took a knee, and then you moved at normal speed again, as you stated because "they turn the cheat off" and shortly after the game cut out.. That's multiple coincidences. If you state you didn't cheat, then fair enough, I'm not gonna sweat you on it. Ofcourse I'm curious how you reached the theory in the first place, and we can also assume those in your video weren't cheating either.

[@buttsaladninjaofficial7082]

Cheater

[@TheYoshishido]

Do you remember Yobocop?

[@JA-057]

You got exposed bro just accept responsibility

[@KrizbyYT]

Nah bro. You're cheating. LOL!

[@orionmusic-yl8xq]

Interesting theory about taking a knee. I've had a few matches where I've suspected them to be cheating, and when I've had to take a knee, they've randomly surrendered.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

It's one of those theories.. you question how he found it out in the first place!

[@orionmusic-yl8xq]

@@ClaimerUndisputed yeah, it's kinda like he gaffer taped the smoking gun to his own hand.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Yeah I face palmed as he said "they really move at normal speed" there's literally only one way you can know that lol

[@YmgBandz]

I have played this game long enough to know that sometimes when you’re punching, your fighter will just automatically punch crazy slow and then it goes back fast. I’ve seen that.

[@npcprototype4831]

This is crazy, I fight so many people who go in slow motion and do the slide thing. They hit you once, but they really hit you twice. If the game don't have anti-cheat on day one people are gonna errupt!

[@Snight101]

Just so you're aware, if you taunt twice in a row, the next punch you throw will be in slowmo, and slowmo happens a lot randomly, but it will only ever happen on player one's screen (left corner) and the right corner won't see it. Knees often end the match, especially if you're hit or hit while a knee is happening. The game has a terrible netcode and these issues have been around for a long time, when you actually match into a hacker, it's very obvious, but you'll likely only run into 1 every 300 games or more.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

That's interesting, these were the comments I was hoping I'd get.. balanced. Alternatively maybe he's aware of this, which is why he taunts.I even said mid match "why does he keep taunting" it seemed out of place.

[@DrakeyWayne]

"it takes a thief to catch a thief" Lol how would he have the slightest clue the opponent is moving at normal speed, when they appear slow on our screen. Ultra Suss player for sure, W Vid

[@GhostFace_517]

That’s why console is better..all these pc nerds are cheating in literally every competitive game

[@andrewbaker6000]

I agree

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Uh oh.. PC Pros vs Console Casuals war on the way ✊😂

[@DrakeyWayne]

It's 2024 you don't have a PC?

[@JazzyJeff910]

@@DrakeyWaynewhy would I anybody want to play with cheaters? lol 😂

[@GhostFace_517]

@@DrakeyWayne and don’t care..I’m a console player not some pc nerd

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Message to ShootTheFade585, GG if you believe my assumption is incorrect, let me know why in a separate comment so I can Pin it. Alternatively If you DID use cheats, *it's not the end of the world* . You spread awareness with your original video which is commendable, and the community have a Rare opportunity, to know what to look out for, and a remedy to perhaps confirm their suspicions.

[@BillyDaHustler]

I like this, it's fair

[@LegacyRadioGaming]

Your first knock down, Was technical beauty.

[@darkmoonangelo]

I've faced the guy two to three times. With how much he abuses the slide/dash uppercuts, I wouldn't be shocked if he is cheating. However, I do not think he is. I don't even care about the cheese I suffered when facing him. Still, when he said that he "throws combos" while people are "cheesing", I had to lifted a brow. Furthermore, sure, it is bad that people cheese, but he is not as bad as the people who try and friend request you so they can insult you in your DMs, and if you reject it (sometimes twice, and sometimes even more than twice) and have your profile public, they send you hate there. It makes me not want to play online with how people seem to be obsessed with winning and (even if they win) how they have a chip on their shoulder. I don't think I've played many games with people this bad (in a long time). It becomes strange when some will send you messages, responding to you for days before you're forced to block them because they've followed your page (just so they can respond to everything you say). It is strange and odd, and while cheating and spam are a massive problem, I think this is as bad. So, again, I'll give the man a clap for not being one of those types of players. After all, you can fix "cheese", but it is a far greater task to fix what people do after the game is over. Sorry for the wall of text. I've just noticed people seem to be becoming even more toxic as we get closer to the full release. Note: Should have posted this as its own comment, instead of under your comment. Oh well. It is what it is.

[@LegacyRadioGaming]

@@darkmoonangelo Well said man. Never let anybody tell you there is something wrong with writing long form responses or posts, People have gotten to far away from that in my opinion.

[@darkmoonangelo]

@@LegacyRadioGaming Thanks. Yeah, it is just a thing I need to get over myself. I always feel like I am wasting someone's time if I use over a set number of words. I shouldn't let it get to me. Thanks again.

[@LegacyMarketFarm]

Beautiful work, Best undercover brother since the movie

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

lol thanks as always Legacy, this one fell right on my lap! Some have made reasonable cases that it's Desync, I know this guy records his matches, so if it is, he'll have the footage to prove it

[@LegacyRadioGaming]

@@ClaimerUndisputed I just, Struggle to believe in that coincidence. I hope you are right though, Because if he is cheating, He is a very sad lonely individual who needs real world help.

[@LoneWolfe_XX]

I say there needs to be a law where ppl who hack video games and cheat should get fined or jail time. I’m tired of weirdos ruining games for ppl who spend their hard earned money on games. Ik this is a stretch but I’ll even say stop making the games for pc players since they want to cheat. I know that was a stretch but I’m just tired of ppl

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

I hear you man, it's the "win at all costs" mindset, plus some people just don't like to lose. "If no one knows I'm cheating and I'm anonymous.. what's the harm?" We honestly just need a perma ban anti-cheat where they lose out on the game they paid for.

[@LoneWolfe_XX]

@@ClaimerUndisputed great idea brother and thanks for the response

[@almiser]

@@LoneWolfe_XX for that you would need to use your identity on the internet, won't gonna happen anytime soon in a lot of countries.

[@MrDumdumkilla]

Jail time?!?!?! 😂😂😂 liberal

[@LegacyRadioGaming]

He probably knows this, Because he has tested it himself then got into using it. I went through this with people back in my day running a clan for WAR Z had people act all chill and laid back like they would never cheat & knew how to catch cheaters, Then they themselves are cheating. GREAT content Claimer, I love to see someone using his brain.

[@kenanKTV]

Great video.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Sup KenanK 🍻

[@TimODell7]

Great video as always. Sadly, I doubt there will be any anti cheat with this game as the devs to me seem to avoid that topic as well as dedicated servers like the plague. I feel like those 2 things are very important to online play.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Cheers Tim, there's a "glimmer" of hope.. one of the Discords claim they have an Anti-cheat ready for launch.. If they don't, wow are they gonna get it from the community.

[@FrancosOG]

The game will not have dedicated servers. Most 1v1-Type games use p2p, including UFC. Dedicated servers are needed but they don't make sense for a game like this. What's important is them fixing the current p2p system

[@P4PGamer]

Keep exposing them bro! Excellent job! 🔥👍

[@respectthegameyt]

Yooo claimer uncut this is GREAT content right here, well freaking done man. I have run into some spiders who take a knee every time they get hurt and it instantly makes their health go back to normal. I had one guy take eight knees in a fight. Literally every time I stun him he took a knee and bounced back like normal. I will say this when you get hurt especially if you’re flashing in the red with your head health and you taught a few times your health goes back up exponentially faster. If you talk over and over again, it seems to make you recover faster. I think that’s why he did it When you hurt him then was able to knock you down 3 seconds later(🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️) why someone would want to go through all of that process just to cheat is beyond me, but we need more videos like this exposing cheaters that’s for sure

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Hey thanks Bro, means alot seeing my main channel give this one a shot 🙏🏽. It's hard to know what is cheating vs broken mechanics being taken advantage of. The get up game for example.. I argue about this all the time in my discord, I think it's a cheat.. Others say after the 5th getup the mini game doesn't get harder. As for Knees.. this is the problem, if you rejuvenate your health, then everyone's going to be randomly taking knees.. Anything to get the edge. If we were still playing local couch competition, everyone would have a gentleman's handshake to play semi realistically. But there's no respect from anonymous strangers online.

[@santooscura]

No joke Shoothefade585 sounds like Katt Williams

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

He does, sounds like a chill guy

[@jsal3x]

I’ve ran across this guy before. I believe he had fury against my joe louis. I had a slight feeling…. But never really thought much of it. Great video

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Hey thanks Sal, you never know.. He may have a recording of the match, and somehow prove we were both wrong regarding a slow mo glitch.. With that aside, he's still a cheese king

[@jsal3x]

@@ClaimerUndisputed cheesy indeed 😭

[@Ben-de3hr]

The assumption that slow-mo is the trigger to catch a cheat is a dangerous one. SCI need to fix their servers firstly before I throw accusations based on slow motion glitching. I’ve had several fights (private matches) where I am moving at normal speed, but my opponent says I’m moving in slo motion and I don’t 1000% don’t cheat (I wouldn’t even know where to begin looking to get source a trusted cheating service lol)… but nonetheless, I deffo feel that the player is this video is a 100000% cheese ball who can’t really hang with someone who’s good at the game. What you highlighted in this video does look suspect, and coupled with the guys cheesing tactics; one does have a strong argument that this dude is cheating. But my first piece of advice to homeboy is, GET GOOD AT THE GAME AND STOP THE CHEESE!

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

I hear ya, but conclusions have to start with an assumption! Not to mention it was his theory! If anything we may be able to confirm if "ShootTheFade" recorded the match himself, that it's a Desync issue. He's a cheese king for sure, but sadly that style has been cultivated by streamers for over a year now, and we'll likely find new players Diag dodging more than throwing strikes on release

[@Ben-de3hr]

@@ClaimerUndisputed yeah, would be good to hear ShootTheFade’s side of the story. Luckily, I’ve got both PC and console. So when this comes our next month, I’ll be purchasing it on console. Bigger pool of players and less chance for cheaters. Unfortunately, the majority of the PC community is too toxic to make it enjoyable (whether online or online ranked).

[@almiser]

Claimer, can you try to disappoint once ? Was another great one !

[@comicstripgamer1591]

This is why I don't play combat sports or any sports games online. I just play career. The online community is riddled with a player type I don't understand. I'm about sense of achievement and don't see how I can seek reward about knowing I cheated another player to win

[@TrenchbabyMel203]

speed of your punches are determined by a few things. For 1 your stamina, 2 the game tries to combat spamming so if it notices you're abusing a punch it'll get nerfed.

[@ChamaUFC300]

Unreal expectations from a indie studio😭 COD GTA Rainbow six siege etc all of them killed by cheaters

[@shootthefade585]

31 uppercuts to 20 in 5 rounds I really abused them

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Come on Shoot.. the southpaw body uppercut. You've faced cheesers, you've spoken about it.

[@xDarkPx]

What a coward. He sucks so bad, he has to use cheats to beat an 84 overall with a fighter that's already rated at 90. Can't make this sht up...

[@ocerco93]

bro your skills in montage are insane.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Hey thanks man, I typically don't say it.. But I'm a believer that I may have some of the best timing and position IQ right now (maybe not the best) but up there.

[@ocerco93]

@@ClaimerUndisputed English is not my first language, but not sure i've understood what u just said ? I was talking about montage, editing skills. For the timing, tbh the timing is this game is totally broken, the counter window is crazy, the second wave cheese is way too ez to implement for anyone.. ;(

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

@@ocerco93 no you were correct haha, I just assumed you meant my fighting skills within the montage! Yeah unfortunately Undisputed matches are far too long to showcase 2 minutes, so I have to trim it down. It's high effort.. However I'm happy to provide well paces entertainment as opposed to a boring unedited match

[@GamingXPOfficial]

​@ClaimerUndisputed hey man tbh you make thr game look good I assumed you would be mid watching your other cheesing vids in a real match but you have great timing and positioning

[@kyoungbutta]

claimer you have a really good style ngl

[@Shawnjames21]

That is wild af!!! Sad man. You had to do all of that to catch a cheater. I even fought a guy throwing feints. Its people like this who destroyed the game. I love when you expose the cheezers and cheats. Always funny. You know you're good when they spam the body uppercut and backstep straight. Ye Old Reliable 😂.. Cant believe the same problem is still prevalent!!! Its a simple fix

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Thanks Shawn, I can't believe it still exists myself. Especially since Ash Habib said roughly last year he'd have a fix for online issues real soon.

[@evanderholyfeels]

word to the tekken tag soundtrack.

[@isaac-frost]

Hey Claimer, love the videos. What do you use for the onscreen youtube comments in your video. They look sharp and I want to display youtube comments on my videos like that?

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Hey Bro, thanks man that means alot. I actually design the comment templates myself. I start in photoshop, animated in after effects. And I can replace the image and text in Premiere. HOWEVER.. What you could do, Is zoom in to comments on a desktop browser. Just Google how to do it, but by zooming in the text will remain sharp.

[@isaac-frost]

@@ClaimerUndisputed wow, great work. Looks awesome. Ill give that a shot. I work off of final cut pro. Keep up the good work

[@RedEccoSystem]

I always thought that slow-motion, super-strong fighters were a normal part of the game due to server issues, but I do get demolished when facing them, hahaha. I wasn’t aware that the step in and out with the uppercut was an exploit. I love that move, but maybe they shouldn’t make the opponent stunned after the uppercut. 585, you know you’re guilty, hahaha. I think you exterminated me under the same circumstances before.

[@mikeshinoda703]

I enjoyed this game on the pc release and managed to get a decent ranking online (top 150) but the spamming and hacking has completely put me off. Haven't had any desire to return

[@BillyDaHustler]

I stick with UFC 5 just because of the hacking on Undisputed, there's no point playing if they can just flick a switch to be invincible when they're losing

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Yeah, it's bearable when it's 1 out 5 games, but of recent it's usually 4 out of 5.

[@SiNsCere1100]

This will carry over to console! I’ve faced them in EA UFC more times than none! They destroy almost every gaming community.

[@Mister_non]

Geez, the game isn't even out yet and people are cheating?! Pathetic...

[@daveshadenuff187]

Any games that are on PC,or cross play with PC you experience this nonsense.I mean yeah it helps the player base,but also ruins games with cheaters.I wish they just did cross play with consoles,and not PC also too….

[@MrKompiri]

When have the Slavs ever participated fairly in something? Never, they were always doped and always cheated more than anyone else in competitive sport

[@Anthony-ml6fo]

Have it on PC but will more than likely get it on console to avoid cheaters. May still get them but nowhere near as much

[@sweeetcalf]

How do you take a knee? I've beaten shootthefade before and that's all he does is slide in and out and since the game has horriblle connection stability issues and out of sync punches, it makes it easy for them to counter. I truly believe that some players end up with a better connection than the other and it's favorable to them. It's happened to me before where everything they do is slow and unaffective towards me. I got almost 900 hrs of gameplay and great channel.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Thanks Calf, It's the D-Pad down &.. I think R1 or L1. That's the big issue with slides.. Desync, we're talking miliseconds required to get the upper hand on your opponent, and movements which thrust you in and out of range just don't work well in that environment

[@TrenchbabyMel203]

The other day i fought Roy Jones and dude hit me with like 20 body shots in 10 seconds lol

[@prettyboy_watson]

why would someone cheat on a boxing game just makes it boring winning all the time no risk or intense moments

[@nfapeng187]

Crazy this game already got cheats/cheaters and it was in early access. Not sure if it released yet. But anything people like has cheats and it sucks. Its all about money at the end of the day.

[@mikewilde8801]

I stopped playing online after the initial wave of cheats. I hopped back on this past weekend and my first match was going well. Opponent wasn't playing like a cheeser. Near the 6th round I started to notice a lot of what was mentioned here and then my character locked up and I was knocked down. I couldn't play the mini game to stand up either. Not sure of that is a cheat or not but it reminded me to not play the game online.

[@weedless9531]

What's the chances this streamer wasn't recording that day 🤣🤣🤣

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Lol in this case having his own recording is the only way he can really help his cause, but even then.. He said that cheaters only see themselves at normal speed. Honestly we need a willing cheater to show us precisely how these cheats work!

[@weedless9531]

@ClaimerUndisputed i don't think you'll be hearing from him. He's either gonna stay quiet because he's embarrassed of how he was cheesing or because he was actually using hacks. Very suspicious how his footwork and punch speed changed after you took that knee. When i used to play the game i heard of people talk about the slo mo glitch from a guy called BoxingTrix but he was a genuine player that doesn't cheat. I've never seen the "glitch" myself But he must have like 1500 hours in the game or something so i guess he would see a hacker a lot more than me

[@BravoStone]

This is hilarious. This game is beyond broken.

[@otistaylor527]

You're totally right

[@thebest12700]

I knew all the tricks in fight night lol but I did things like hold while aganist the ropes then punch right out the clinch.I also knew to get my warnings in for headbutts because if I Was in risk of being knocked down I would headbutt to stop the action and get a point taken but I lived to see the next round. I did tactics that they really do in real fights. I never did the spam sidestepping or crap like that. I just used the tools the game gives you and if youre smart enough to know how to use them they can help you win fights. people would get mad but everything I did was from a feature the game offered. boxing is dirty so there should be tactics like the ones I used.

[@AlmightyFO]

Bro omg I thought I was tweaking 😂 I played a few games on pc and I stg opponent was cheating. I hope this don’t happens on console release

[@littledog7961]

Y'all are both delusional, that's wild. And why do you complain that everything is cheese? How did you figure out there's a power multiplier when you slide back?

[@itstroy4145]

if you actually play the game, you'd understand

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

1. Why are we delusional. 2.If you know I always "complain" then you'll use logic to understand why I do it. 3. Playing the game, is the best way to figure out what moves do what. Does it multiply or increase.. You get the drift. Now.. What's your personal issue with me "complaining" get it off your chest

[@littledog7961]

@@ClaimerUndisputed The slow punches with full stam happen as a part of the game. Whether its a mechanic, a bug, or lag/network, it isn't any sort of indication of cheating. I've experienced this with friends that I know aren't cheating. You're downplaying the abilities of decent players and taking away all of their credit by calling the mechanics they use cheesy. Sure, some things ARE cheesy, but I just don't think a lot of the mechanics you call out are.

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

@@littledog7961 I really wish you came at me with rationale like this instead of initially "downplaying" why I make these vids. If you know my work, you'll know that SCI aren't keen on me, but listen to my feedback which I offer for us, as the community. That feedback you've offered is useful, but regarding cheese.. Its the same mechanics I discuss every video. Slides and dodges which have no stamina tax, the southpaw body uppercut, the stationary lead hook (it punches through the block) and the backstep straight. Clearly we see in this video, he cheeses those mechanics, just as my opponents do in past games. When there's a clear purpose to use a mechanic, I won't say a word. But players "exploit" these mechanics which act as a defence mechanism for them, whilst increasing the strength of their output.

[@alexxxk]

is this with the new patch they talked so much about it ?

[@wano_luffy5724]

Bro caught shootthefade red handed everything that lead up from what undisputed said was true even down to the game crashing bc he had his cheats activacted still 😂

[@bzr1986]

Straight up the game is broken and unfinished… trying to explain a broken game with unfinished game mechanics is not even worth the time.

[@shwiftt9925]

Imagine cheating in a boxing game😐

[@MrDumdumkilla]

Can you take him down? Negate the bullsh. 😂

[@danielwadding8642]

Already cheating before game even comes out 😂

[@NorthernSmog]

We need someone to be a guinea pig, download cheats and show this in real time in a youtube video to prove its accurate, any takers? 😂 Im not convinced that slow mo = cheats i think its a netcode issue. I know some people who suffer with this issue quite a bit but i cant imagine they would be willing to cheat... never can be sure though. The knee thing is wild though never knew that was a thing, i will be trying that out myself now haha

[@ClaimerUndisputed]

Sup Smog, if "ShootTheFade" is cheating, that's a redeeming role I'd like to see him take on for sure. Good point regarding desync. This guy records his matches, so once he gets back to me, he can upload his version and we'll find out.

[@weedless9531]

Hi smog . Are you the guy from BoxingTrix's stream . You played Tactic boxing ?

[@NorthernSmog]

@weedless9531 Yup that's me bro, haven't played it for a while though lol

[@User_0000O9-s]

PC ruin it for everyone just make it cross play for consoles 😊

[@ZzZz-fx7zb]

Is the cheating only on PC causebif not i wony bother buying this game

[@Reyes7thst]

Haha i smoked this guy and made him rage quit while we were both using loma 🤣😂 best Lomachenko player my ass😂

[@matmachin9992]

Just play it on ps5 no wondering then.

[@vudownssc]

what a unrealistic look game

[@Fast6reakCrash]

😂😂ppl cheating in boxing ?

[@vidz06]

Fun fact I run into Kevin Kelley all the time out here in Vegas he a cool dude