How to check a 3 phase motor system

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9 жыл бұрын

How to check a 3 phase motor system. This addresses the 3 phase motor in the system. Working through the system Motor to disconnect,overloads, contactor and fusses. Check us out at www.improvemaintenance.com
I have a written version with simple print at www.improvemaintenance.com/3-p...
Troubleshooting a 3 phase motor system. I teach these methods and more on site on your equipment. George@improvemaintenance.com

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@mrdkoser
@mrdkoser 7 жыл бұрын
Professional and impressive use of theory. Great job!
@chandanshanaz3340
@chandanshanaz3340 8 жыл бұрын
very good testing, explaining in a simple way...
@mikekuknyo3329
@mikekuknyo3329 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man. 10 yrs maintenamce...excellent suggestions...thank u
@fasteddie4107
@fasteddie4107 3 жыл бұрын
Motor. Disconnect. Overload. Contactor. Fuses. Power. Check. Great video. Thanks for sharing this great information.
@kalelopaka
@kalelopaka 5 жыл бұрын
Done hundreds, this is the cleanest place I've ever seen, where's the water and hazardous chemicals, thats where I learned.
@electricalcontractor6944
@electricalcontractor6944 3 жыл бұрын
If water and hazardous chemicals were part of an electrical system what you said you matter, but clearly that not the case, so what you stated is out of place. Electricity works the same way regardless, of where it is.
@wilecoyote2650
@wilecoyote2650 8 жыл бұрын
very good, correct PPE, this is the way it should be taught, very good
@theotrotchie
@theotrotchie 7 ай бұрын
Very well explained. I have slow it down and rewatch because a lot is covered in this vid.
@MD-cd7em
@MD-cd7em 6 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!..YOU COVER BASICS AND GET TO THE POINT!!
@javierferrer4634
@javierferrer4634 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you!
@edgardoalfaro2307
@edgardoalfaro2307 6 ай бұрын
Great information like the way you explain the topic
@dougjones4987
@dougjones4987 5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation thanks
@wmhvac-r2826
@wmhvac-r2826 6 жыл бұрын
Great video
@firemusic82
@firemusic82 9 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks for this.
@Improvemaintenance
@Improvemaintenance 9 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the feedback. If you have any video requests go ahead and post in comments and we will try and get one together.
@firemusic82
@firemusic82 9 жыл бұрын
I do actually...a turn to turn short. Walk us through how to diagnose a turn to turn short in a 3 phase motor.
@user-wb3yp4bm1k
@user-wb3yp4bm1k 7 жыл бұрын
Edward James م
@simpliciocamirino2271
@simpliciocamirino2271 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for that sharing sir.
@surendrakverma555
@surendrakverma555 2 жыл бұрын
Very good. Thanks
@nickledimez4012
@nickledimez4012 2 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@michealplater9007
@michealplater9007 2 жыл бұрын
I start at the other end, most faults are not at the motor, most of the time there is a protection trip, phase supply fault, overload or over temp.
@tomascolz6375
@tomascolz6375 5 жыл бұрын
to check the motor it's better to use isolation tester. more than 0,5 MegaOhm between ground and phases. You check the cable also.
@Improvemaintenance
@Improvemaintenance 9 жыл бұрын
Our first how to
@user-tf2yy8ck6z
@user-tf2yy8ck6z 7 жыл бұрын
IMPROVEMAINTENANCE
@theslenderman4427
@theslenderman4427 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bro if i i only have 3 cables and are ground red and black so my question is i want to install a little switch fuse box can i connected only using ground red and black
@theslenderman4427
@theslenderman4427 4 жыл бұрын
Please let me know if you can
@mdmannankhan8358
@mdmannankhan8358 7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@mauriciolopez9652
@mauriciolopez9652 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, really helpull info. xD
@nithyanandavenkatappa5416
@nithyanandavenkatappa5416 2 жыл бұрын
Please *confirm and clarify* the following; Is it possible to connect 3-Phase twin motor control panel in series (*two Numbers*) - for the same/ only one pump set- motor ??
@jasondangelo7064
@jasondangelo7064 8 жыл бұрын
why not check amperage???
@upakotv6457
@upakotv6457 8 жыл бұрын
i prove exellent circuit
@scrappydogfinance8434
@scrappydogfinance8434 2 жыл бұрын
First test should be for voltage to ensure the circuit is actually de-energized. You should test your meter first on a known live circuit, then test on the de-energized circuit, then check on the known live circuit again to ensure your meter is actually working and not falsely indicating 0 voltage. Make sure your meter is properly rated for the Hazard category. usually 480vac 3phase motor circuits are considered CAT III. Minimum your meter should be rated for CAT IV 600V or CAT III 1000V even better. It should be certified by at least 2 independent labs like UL CSA TUV DVE for this CAT rating. Your test leads should have been inspected for any damage before use and your probe tips should have the least amount of metal exposed as possible. Ideally you clamp the COM lead to a ground away from the terminals to be tested first. and then use 1 hand to probe each terminal for voltage 1 at a time. This creates a greater distance between the two leads and lowers risk of accidental arc flash forming between the probe tips. After you are sure the circuit is de-energized then you can check phase to phase ohms on the motor windings and T leads.
@russelsprout2155
@russelsprout2155 Жыл бұрын
If you don't know this you shouldn't be touching this equipment
@kevinb.3656
@kevinb.3656 11 ай бұрын
Dude, no shit.
@adamkarsky473
@adamkarsky473 7 ай бұрын
No shir huh, you copy paste that from Google 😂
@StealingLightLtd
@StealingLightLtd 6 жыл бұрын
Your written list is 404 error for the url.
@shanemcdaniel1509
@shanemcdaniel1509 5 жыл бұрын
Watch this video more than once a grasp what he is saying also watch other videos on motor Controls and how to use a meter along with the danger of 3 phase 480/ 600 volts potential ...period
@juanleonardourena2883
@juanleonardourena2883 3 жыл бұрын
Debiste seguir el tema que estaba hablando el dr nieves
@marktonydavis
@marktonydavis 7 жыл бұрын
Did I see a AB power flex 40 along with AB C09 DJ01?
@dougjones4987
@dougjones4987 5 жыл бұрын
Ughh..
@soviethammer
@soviethammer 8 жыл бұрын
Is the incoming control voltage 24VDC?
@youmah25
@youmah25 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@edcrowe6977
@edcrowe6977 6 жыл бұрын
sometimes the control voltage is 120 VAC if a step down transformer is used from the main power. This would all depend on the type of coil voltage used in the main contactor
@FaZeno5cope
@FaZeno5cope 4 жыл бұрын
If you motor starts with the N.O start button and stops correctly, the control circuit is working properly and you can eliminate most of the steps shown in 30 seconds or less, then just check the power circuit and go from there. If your motor isn’t wanting to start, try manually picking it up with the seal in contact, If it starts, check start and stop button.
@tsikboiteevee6387
@tsikboiteevee6387 4 жыл бұрын
interesting content keep it up! #HuertsGamz Channel
@vincentsanchez9195
@vincentsanchez9195 4 жыл бұрын
I understand the incomeing control voltage but what is the incomeing line voltage?
@vincentsanchez9195
@vincentsanchez9195 4 жыл бұрын
I ment to ask what is the difference of income line voltage and income control voltage
@josephdupre770
@josephdupre770 4 жыл бұрын
@@vincentsanchez9195 Line voltage is coming from the motor control center or substation. Control voltage is on the secondary side of the control transformer and has been stepped down to run the control circuit.
@tommygurule3496
@tommygurule3496 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question,how do you get a 3phase motor out of Lock Rotar Amp
@edcrowe6977
@edcrowe6977 6 жыл бұрын
if you remove the input voltage to the motor and make sure the motor shaft is free from any other mechanical sources , then the motor rotor should turn free within the motor housing. However, if the motor shaft fails to turn with no voltage applied , then the motor needs to be taken apart and inspected for bad end bell bearings and remove the motor rotor from the field and check for any damages there as well.
@edcrowe6977
@edcrowe6977 6 жыл бұрын
the locked rotor motor test is basically when the shaft of the motor is locked so that it cant move and then the rotor winding's are short circuited and checked that the lower frequency applied and reduced supply voltage matches the full load rated current of the motor
@elevatormechanic
@elevatormechanic 7 жыл бұрын
Why are you checking the motor at the disconnect? According to your print the normally open motor starter will be open. Kinda dumb
@quantumfoam140
@quantumfoam140 6 жыл бұрын
Rubberneck He mentioned in the video that sometimes a disconnect is installed near the motor to provide a convenient point to lock out for safety. In the schematic, this disconnect would appear after the overloads and before the motor.
@hbknhry
@hbknhry 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative.
@garethmurphy8235
@garethmurphy8235 5 жыл бұрын
What are you meaning by "control voltage"? Are u meaning 24VDC from the power supply?
@johnstamper3974
@johnstamper3974 5 жыл бұрын
yep going to a1 and a2
@caroldj.jenkins1843
@caroldj.jenkins1843 4 жыл бұрын
Can some one explain what he means by incoming control voltage? Where is the incoming control voltage on the Contactor?
@jasonryan2175
@jasonryan2175 4 жыл бұрын
A1 and A2
@rebelkhot3620
@rebelkhot3620 6 жыл бұрын
Make submarcible motor
@jenmagbojos624
@jenmagbojos624 7 жыл бұрын
i feel like inside the airplane
@mahamoodahammed3169
@mahamoodahammed3169 7 жыл бұрын
تمام صلى علي حبيبك محمد
@jeffgreen7897
@jeffgreen7897 Жыл бұрын
You said “never throw a disconnect under load”. Sometimes you have to throw a disconnect under load if there’s an emergency.
@Biginjapan85
@Biginjapan85 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, will checking the resistance between each phase of the motor not give the same resistance, as all of the windings are connected together in the motors terminal box?
@charliec8936
@charliec8936 8 жыл бұрын
+rory johnstone if you check resistance between each phase then yes the resistance should be the same as they are balanced. if they were different then they would be imbalanced and cause the motor to have a problem
@Biginjapan85
@Biginjapan85 8 жыл бұрын
+Charlotte Cottam As i understand the links for star/delta in the terminal box on the motor would have to be disconnected to properly test between phase to phase. As checking phase to phase with the links in will not show the fault due to the three phases being tied together in the terminal box.
@edcrowe6977
@edcrowe6977 6 жыл бұрын
In order to properly checking the motor winding resistance a megometer would be required as well. If any motor winding shows any resistance to ground. the motor field windings would have to be repaired then
@keyworksales6241
@keyworksales6241 5 жыл бұрын
Your meter may pick up small differences, however you should disconnect the motor from the circuit and test the insulation of the windings with a megger or meg-ohm-meter
@oscar27ization
@oscar27ization 4 жыл бұрын
That disconnect didn’t need a supply side bonding jumper, since the enclosure didn’t seem to have eccentric knock outs
@nathanmueller8994
@nathanmueller8994 6 жыл бұрын
No fuses & no transfer switch....
@pbrown4
@pbrown4 6 жыл бұрын
do 3 phase motors not need an earth? what about neutral?
@quantumfoam140
@quantumfoam140 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Brown They do require an earth ground. In the United States it is usually the green wire as shown in the video when he shows the inside of the disconnect box. There is no neutral wire in a 3 phase motor. Each of the 3 phases is a hot wire.
@edcrowe6977
@edcrowe6977 6 жыл бұрын
no neutral wire is required only a green ground wire
@akhileshkr03
@akhileshkr03 8 жыл бұрын
what is PPE ?pls explen it.
@soviethammer
@soviethammer 8 жыл бұрын
Personal Protective Equipment. (Safety Gear)
@akhileshkr03
@akhileshkr03 8 жыл бұрын
+Rand Mitch, thank yous sir
@TheCommonSenseProfessor
@TheCommonSenseProfessor 5 жыл бұрын
Your written version and simple print link is bad.
@bombebomb
@bombebomb 5 жыл бұрын
0:32 the truth
@charliewilley5004
@charliewilley5004 6 жыл бұрын
Your link to printable version doesn't work.
@jeradLiberty
@jeradLiberty 5 жыл бұрын
Most 3 phase systems in the us are 480v???? Hu?
@robertosteen6621
@robertosteen6621 5 жыл бұрын
Its true
@tedlahm5740
@tedlahm5740 Жыл бұрын
@@robertosteen6621 Ungrounded Delta?
@circuit-maker7971
@circuit-maker7971 8 жыл бұрын
Print link = 404
@bigmedge
@bigmedge 5 жыл бұрын
Uhh
@3cressidas
@3cressidas 6 жыл бұрын
Your link to printable doesn't work.
@robertosteen6621
@robertosteen6621 5 жыл бұрын
To check the motor shouldn't you determinate the motor or at least check the termination? I've had instances where the motor shoots good from the cabinet but you open the peckerhead and the phases are melted together. Obviously it would cause the breaker to trip but still from the disconnect you would see the same reading if the phases were not shorted.
@robertosteen6621
@robertosteen6621 5 жыл бұрын
Still an awesome video though!
@lanthonyperdum6430
@lanthonyperdum6430 5 жыл бұрын
Explain in more detail please...I’m thinking you are speaking of disconnecting the 3 power line leads and checking the motor leads in between windings is that correct ???
@gregorybeard5294
@gregorybeard5294 8 жыл бұрын
NEEDEED
@josephsmith6075
@josephsmith6075 Жыл бұрын
Good vid. But you talk too fast 😕
@travissmith383
@travissmith383 Ай бұрын
video could have been much better. Couldn't fully see what you were doing
@hg2.
@hg2. 5 жыл бұрын
In an absolute sense, this is a good effort, but this is not a good "how to" video: the narration is too fast, it assumes extensive knowledge and experience by the listener. This is for experienced people only, and if they are already experienced, they don't need the instruction. Improvement can start by practicing the narration with no slurred/drop-offs toward the end of the sentence or idea. (Slurred end-of-sentence drop-offs alienate the listener because it shows an attitude that says "this stuff is so basic and elementary, and I'm bored with having to explain it to you.... " The narration should also have pauses between sentences and paragraphs, as opposed to the aggressive, pace here, which eventually sounds like an advertisement for the company, as opposed to an actual how-to video.
@dallas5374
@dallas5374 4 жыл бұрын
hg2 you should make a video showing everyone how it’s done....duh!!!!
@russelsprout2155
@russelsprout2155 Жыл бұрын
How to videos shouldn't exist for electrical stuff. It's too dangerous. Only licenced electricians should be messing with this stuff
@hg2.
@hg2. Жыл бұрын
@@russelsprout2155 ^^ Union protectionist, right?
@hg2.
@hg2. Жыл бұрын
@@dallas5374 I'll look for a competitor that does it better.
@russelsprout2155
@russelsprout2155 Жыл бұрын
@@hg2. well when someone you know dies because they're trying to be a jack of all trades then you'll understand
@PBS-nm1uu
@PBS-nm1uu 6 жыл бұрын
to fast video is terrible
@koarivera9151
@koarivera9151 4 жыл бұрын
Talks way too fast wow
@rjsmith1630
@rjsmith1630 4 ай бұрын
This is incorrect!! If your resistance phase to phase is low means you phase insolation is weaker and your about to phase out!
@ronancahill2487
@ronancahill2487 4 жыл бұрын
Slow down. You talk too fast. I could not keep up
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