HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT CLEAT AND PEDAL FOR YOU!! (LOOK SHIMANO SPEEDPLAY) *PEDAL FLOAT EXPLAINED*

[@GCPerformance18]

which pedals do you ride?? I am rocking look right now!!!

[@HS-ob3fz]

yellow!

[@pauldevereux9501]

Black look. Never used anything else. Tried grey a bit they floated to much

[@jegerm6752]

Look keo blade right now, but might go back to shimano. It’s a lot more difficult to clip in with the keo blade, maybe because of the fixed 12 Nm tension. Shimano cleat is ugly af but very easy to clip in, and just feels slightly more stable, at least to me.

[@stevengraham7627]

Look, grey cleat

[@patrickparisienne1917]

Shimano SPD mtb pedals, on and off road. Light, strong, double sided entry, and 6 degrees of float to allow for knee tracking error. As a bonus, you can actually walk around in the shoes normally.

[@alexgleeson3634]

Flexing hard with the HotWalk Carbon background!

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao I had a fun time shooting the video with my kid, good memories

[@duckmanduckfairy8010]

This is great for new riders who are not going to a LBS for their first pedals and shoes!

[@GCPerformance18]

just trying to give out all the info I can!!!

[@rodcosta2345]

Hell man, just switched from grey to black Looks and after three rides, I have knee pain like you described. Back to gray for me! Great video!

[@GCPerformance18]

yea the black is very stiff in my opinnion go grey for sure

[@openwheelracing88]

Not all cleats are made equal. My yellow cleats from Ultegra set is way better than the yellow cleats from 105 set. Same model number. One made in Japan and the other Singapore.

[@GCPerformance18]

really good thing to notice I want to tell them out now

[@MashiroRedo]

Shimano yellows with less resistant on pedals. Found these are good for my knees

[@GCPerformance18]

yea they work great

[@Gator35]

Great info - Very well explained for a new rider. Thank you!

[@GCPerformance18]

Very welcome!

[@iansellers1251]

Can Shimano cleats be used with Look pedals and vice versa?

[@stephen4347]

You are dropping some very cool videos. I am on Shimano blue on the left and red on my right. It works for me.

[@GCPerformance18]

thanks so much!!! and thats crazy I have neevr heard of two different cleat floats but If it works for you then sounds like a plan :)

[@lexist2112]

I had Time pedals back in the day, then switched over to speedplay X2 and never looked back. Love the pedal system and too bad they couldn't make it and sold out to Wahoo. I know Speedplay was having a hard time from consumers buying the pedal components and buying the Titanum spindles to create their own light weight Ti X2 pedal for half the cost. Speedplay litigated these companies, apparently wasn't enough to keep market share

[@vomErsten]

Why is getting bought by Wahoo so bad? It looks like the product has been improved by that acquisition.

[@GCPerformance18]

hopefuly wahoo makes them better, I already like the redesign they dont look as kidish now and they look more pro

[@zacharypeattie]

I spent many years on SPD mtn bike pedals on my road bike. Loved them. Recently am trying the SPD-SL with the yellow cleat. I don’t really care for how much my feet move with all that float. Maybe it’s time to try the blue.

[@zacharypeattie]

But with the blue, that’s 2*. The look grey look like a better option?

[@GCPerformance18]

yea blue is nice for sure!!! give them a try and see hwo you like it

[@nokia6800]

I used to ride with Blue shimano and recently switched to gray keos because I got some Favero Assiomas. I feel the same way about the grays as you do about the red keos lol I hope Favero does the same thing that Garmin is with their changeable pedal bodies on their power meters.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea they are, garmin is making a power meter for every pedal

[@rajeshkannan_s]

Garmin released power pedals for Shimano last week, they are called aa Rally RS 100/200.

[@perperikis5501]

Isn't it possible that the zero float cleats are more suitable for beginners as they - assumably - allow you to unclip a little bit easier ? (as the easy unclip is a big issue for beginners)

[@GCPerformance18]

no because for beginners being clipped in can cause a new feeling in the knee as is, so we want that float at the top and bottom of the pedal stroke, because when your foot is in a fixed position we need some lateral movement for the knee

[@perperikis5501]

@@GCPerformance18 Oh I see. Yeah I guess knee pain is more important. Thanks !

[@markj.a351]

Tempted to try Shimano since most use them but I love my Time pedals.

[@GCPerformance18]

I like that sram bought time i hope they re brand them and make them sram pedals that would be sick to see people match the pedals to the group, but time pedals are nice looking for sure

[@shreyesgedam2751]

so when will you be playing warzone budy?

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao I have been rocking pubg lately feeling pretty nostalic vibes I havnt dabbled in warzone in forever but I am down soon, just the updates are massive and eat up to much space

[@shreyesgedam2751]

@@GCPerformance18 haha true !!

[@gregoryjoseph6775]

Do you think I’ll notice the difference switching from Shimano yellow to look grey? Great video!

[@GCPerformance18]

yes it is a different float and gray is less float then shimano yellow, but nothing you can not get use to..

[@terrencesala5255]

I had knee replacement surgery on both knees and i like the Look Red cleets easy to unclip

[@GCPerformance18]

very nice

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

There's really no reason for zero float for 99% of racers. You won't lose wattage. I've been riding X-series (30 degrees float) for decades and have never had issues with my heel kicking out. It just doesn't happen if you ride with them for more than a week or two.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea its all preference, its just like they could probably get away with not riding slammed 140mm stems but thats whats best for them they feel

[@vomErsten]

It wasn't the lack of float on the blue Shimano cleats doing your knee in, it was the fact that you had it at the wrong angle for your body geometry and the relative lack of float meant you couldn't flex it into the right angle. Basically, less float means you have to get your cleat angle closer to perfect than you would with more float. So here's a question: why is 3-bolt SPD-SL still a thing? The 2-bolt SPD design would allow you to put a recessed cleat into the shank, letting the shoe be more walkable. 2-bolts are also lighter. What gives?

[@AJXOXO-vz1pn]

It’s a bigger platform 3-bolt Shimano SPD-SL cleats compared to 2-bolt Shimano SPD pedals.

[@sjammer]

I use the shimano spd cleats with the ES600 pedals and specialized recon 3.0 shoes. For now I prefer the walkability of the spd (2 bolt) style shoes.

[@GCPerformance18]

very nice as long as they work

[@milutinbegovic-orjenskigorstak]

Look red cleats 9 deegre is better than gray cleats 4.5 degree?

[@GCPerformance18]

its preference, red cleats have a lot float like a ton, almost to much for me I always went grey for look but if you need alot of movement on the cleat for knee problems then more movement is going to be better

[@milutinbegovic-orjenskigorstak]

Thanks man 👍

[@m0e566]

On both of my road bikes I use Look keo classic 3s with the gray cleats

[@GCPerformance18]

very nice!!! they are perfect pedlas for sure, the blade carbnnon version are very stiff compared to the 3s

[@JFomo]

I used road clipless for the first time today (previously using spd mtb pedals for the last 6 months) and they are so difficult to unclip. Look Keo Blade Caron. Does it get easier overtime? Clipping in was easy.

[@GCPerformance18]

yes it does and also keo blade are known for being stiff because it is a carbon blade and not a spring, it is very stiff

[@JFomo]

@@GCPerformance18 I ordered some 8nm blades. I don't know if they are compatible with my Carbon pedals but I hope they are.

[@kazuyamishima519]

@gcperformance18 do you think the difference between the shimano Yellows and Look grey cleats is noticeable or negligible? Which would you suggest for a beginner?

[@Lenny-pq5kc]

Had a bike fit for my new bike and they moved my cleats forward, first ride I had really bad calf pain now I can’t shake it. I’ve moved the cleats back to where they were as well. Any ideas to get around this ? Thanks 🙏

[@GCPerformance18]

I would have to see it to be hoenst, but I would say take a couple rides off like 2-4 days and rest and then try again and dont move the cleats that much

[@thesecretninjaboy]

Placing cleats more forward creates more of a lever. You can take a look at a detailed video talking about this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYGkhHuiodCkgK8 Your specific problem is around 9:30 in

[@johnengland8619]

Thanks for the content im just learning

[@GCPerformance18]

thats what I am here for

[@pinoytruckingsaamerica3667]

I have problems clipping out… Does the float got to do something when clipping out? Less float easier clip out? Thanks in advance. I have the shimano yellow right now…

[@GCPerformance18]

no usually not at all, it is more the pedal and needs to be loosen the tension on the pedal with an allen key

[@pinoytruckingsaamerica3667]

@@GCPerformance18 my tension is already all the way to minus side… I cant turn it any more… Can you suggest a pedal that I can clip out easier… I’m new to cycling…

[@Stevenafoe]

@@pinoytruckingsaamerica3667 what do you have now?

[@847lifestyle]

being pro at all cost..lol thanks for this

[@GCPerformance18]

hahah i got you

[@SeahawkMoments]

Yooooo, this is perfect timing, I just ordered some new vento infinito carbon 2 shoes and considering changing pedals. On the Look Keo 2s now, but sometimes I have trouble clipping in/out on my right foot. You’re saying the speed play is WAY easier to clip in/out?

[@GCPerformance18]

yea they are called light action and also if you want light for keo then look at keo classic 3

[@SeahawkMoments]

@@GCPerformance18 light or classic to me sounds like losing performance/watts?

[@yonglingng5640]

A lighter pedal tension allows you to unclip more easily, although this is a bad thing if you sprint hard as your foot has a higher potential to unclip accidentally due to the lighter tension.

[@bjornbaron5940]

Prefer favero assioma pedals and Speedplay

[@GCPerformance18]

speedplay works well jsut not for me

[@Fugitive_8]

So i’ve been using Shimano SPD-SL for at the most 4 years and i tried a LOOK Keo i have 2 types the gray one for my climbing bike and the black one on both racing and sprinting one

[@raptor7669]

Hey GC i see that COD coldwar app, lets get to it add me lol

[@GCPerformance18]

lmaoooo I havnt been playing as much I have been doing more pubg right now for some odd reason but having fun with it

[@raptor7669]

@@GCPerformance18 boooo pubg is full of bots now, not many players anymore to fill the 100 lobby

[@satttheman]

Can I get your opinion on pedals? Trying to decide between Look and XTR. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

[@MIAthe305]

Grey Look. I honestly like them, so idk if I want to try Shimano, but if I do I’ll go for the blue Shimano cleats

[@GCPerformance18]

I thought so too but the yellow are more my suit from grey to yellow

[@matt.rraw.]

world of warcraft!!

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahahhah

[@Jeebs45]

Dude plays WoW 😯

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao been a while but yes!!!

[@awakenedbahamut2574]

Yellow, blue, hred

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahah

[@awakenedbahamut2574]

@@GCPerformance18 French r

[@russellbrooks2354]

Great video thanks. I’m toying with buying Assioma’s but put off by moving from spd sl. Is there much difference clipping in, walking and general use? The new Assioms spd sl is not an option unfortunately! I’d appreciate your expert opinion. Thanks again for the awesome content.

[@GCPerformance18]

they are evry easy to walk around in but I do not recommend walking around in for a long time they are not meant for it.... like for walking up and down the street but to get off and get some water it is okay and no issues..... but the more you walk the more they ware down

[@russellbrooks2354]

@@GCPerformance18 Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. Do you find them as easy to clip in with as SPD SLs? That’s the main thing I was worried about.

[@jiyon167]

Float makes no difference to power output. It’s psychological. I personally use 2 degrees SPD-SL cleats. Because I like the more fixed feel. I haven’t had any issues, but I did previous using 6 degrees.

[@GCPerformance18]

really? I would have to think if your putting out max power and your foot is in a fixed postion it would put out more power then if you are in a floated pedal and you have some movement to redirect some of that power from going strait down

[@jiyon167]

@@GCPerformance18 no not according to scientific studies.

[@1000750]

Thanks for the info, I had no idea of the color codes very good to know. I'm a mtb guy and only road road for fitness, I started and always rode shimano mtb pedals the spd i think they are called. I love them, I have a bad knee so the float is fine for me, clip in easy and I like to walk around when I stop too. Maybe one day I'll switch over because now I ride road 75-90% of the time, when I can afford both shoes and pedals. So if I did go shimano road pedals I'd like the yellow I'm assuming or the red with looks?

[@kappasigds]

SHIMANO XTR PD-M9100 with Specialized Recon 3.0 on my Diverge. Never tried anything else. I find the shoes a little bulky.

[@GCPerformance18]

hey if they work they work

[@QrankChannel]

Is it approriate to fit shimano pedals on SRAM crank?

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahaha not at all but it can be done

[@Dralbastaki]

going from yellow shimano to red look cuz of favero assioma pedals :'((((

[@GCPerformance18]

ahhhhh yea I heard, go to grey look you will like them

[@fink-d9330]

At thr mo I use look (grey) I've onley done clippers for a few years now and learned on look grey and have stuck with them since and they feel great

[@GCPerformance18]

yea keep with it I neevr suggest no float

[@mikelohmeyer4140]

Is it 4.5 each way from center ?

[@GCPerformance18]

yea 4.5 one way and 4.5 the other way

[@yonglingng5640]

@@GCPerformance18 Isn't it 4.5° end-to-end? I used to be on Look Keo 4.5° and now I'm on Shimano SPD-SL 2° and the difference I fely isn't massively significant, just noticeable. I even measured the length of the arc my shoe traces from end to end, but forgot to do it before I took of my Look Keo cleats.

[@shtstirrer]

First!

[@GCPerformance18]

:)))

[@douglasbracken7562]

👍👏👏

[@GCPerformance18]

thank you

[@edward7589]

I’m so glad Wahoo fixed the Speedplay selection. Love those pedals for the low stack height, clip in both sides, very walkable and ofc aero. Started with the max degree of float to get rid of knee pain then caused knee pain in a sprint after 100 miles because of too much float.. have since brought it down to 4 degrees and love them still.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea me too, I actually stopped selling them becuase they were too all over the place I like the re branding of them and they look nice now

[@edward7589]

@@GCPerformance18 if only they’d bring back titanium PLUS aero, I’d upgrade