How to Chop Up Samples Like Four Tet and Bonobo in Ableton Live | Tutorial

For this tutorial, Point Blank’s Course Content Developer, Chris Martin, shows how you can chop up samples creatively like Four Tet and Bonobo using advanced Sampler modulation and Arpeggiator in Ableton Live.
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[@vajrakilla9124]

You can gain even more control by routing the sample offset to the velocity in the midi tab. Think in the lines of using a velocity midi plugin with more constrained controls. Or by recording the midi pattern of the arp and changing the velocities on different notes. I'm beginning to use this type of approach on drum loops and it seems promising!

[@huphtur]

Ableton beginner here, could you explain how this would work?

[@vajrakilla]

@@huphtur the idea is to utilize note velocity data to manipulate the sample playback start position. So say you have a long bit of audio that you put into the sampler and there are lots of cool bits in that audio; but, you don’t want to make a bunch of different sampler tracks with different start points- thus more midi tracks to try to deal with. Or you just want to add a bit of random, or you committed a bunch of modulation changes to audio and you can’t come up with a way to arrange them in a way you like. So you add the sample to the sampler. Go to the midi tab and in the drop down next to the velocity pick sample offset. Turn the amount to 100%. Then you can do a variety of things: make a midi clip, click in a bass line and change the velocity settings, or use a random velocity midi effect, or use a sequencer with variable velocity settings- skys really the limit! Hope this helps

[@samiserhan6296]

@@huphtur Look up Ned Rush. He explores this technique in a lot of detail.

[@samiserhan6296]

@@huphtur I would also add that his general use of midi effects, instrument racks and Sampler is great reference if you're looking to explore some of Ableton's native capacities.

[@Nicolas-lz2ff]

@@samiserhan6296 do you have the link for the ned rush exploring of this technique? ty a lot

[@KAANISMYNAME]

I recorded some sparse chords and melodies, a couple of bits of vocals and arranged a 1 minute track of various combinations of the above. Loaded into the sampler, used this trick with some more variety on the arp and recorded the random slices and combinations. Then took that recorded track into the arrangement and sliced up the most interesting parts to make a really crazy complex wall of textures. So inspiring

[@samsungtelevision695]

Excellent tutorial. One of the top 2 most practical producer channels imo

[@semsmeb9745]

this channel doesnt even come close to tom cosms and mr. bills content

[@bassplayinggoalie]

What's your other fav channel?

[@LiMCRiMZ]

@@semsmeb9745 I love Mr. Bill myself but that doesn't mean I have to discredit other channels that could be helpful to producers of skill levels that might vary from my own.

[@semsmeb9745]

@@LiMCRiMZ i wasnt discrediting anyone bro. its just my subjective oppinion

[@mrpzak]

This is awesome. I’m working on a hip hop kinda track, a la Nightmares on Wax and I think this will give it a bit of an edge it’s missing.

[@user-fi4yd2kf6g]

Fantastic! I am someone totally new to all this and I find it scary how many different functions Ableton offers!

[@robert__]

I do this by slicing the sample to time intervals and then arpeggiating the midi which is playing them. It's a really good technique if you have a lot of slices. if you have a 1 minute sample of something played in key, you can almost always make it into a great melody from this, and it's easy to make A/B sections too. works good with drums too!

[@franciscocedillo3452]

Gold!

[@jamiehallberg]

Watching this baked is amazing

[@jedgould5531]

May be wrong, but it seems you could use a separate LFO turning arp on and off, and as well place each sampler in an instrument rack within a drum rack, allowing you to play each - in your case Gm chord - separately. Macros in the arp could also be useful.

[@jomesias]

Incredible! This is killer to control the arp Gate with a midi controller, like the Novation Launchkey 🤘🤘👍👍

[@theHADERMET]

I had so much fun playing with this trick thank you for sharing 😁

[@inspir.edmusic]

This is an excellent creative tip! Thank you.

[@newpractice]

this seems like a cool tutorial but... how did you get to where you are at the beginning? how do you get an existing sound into that part of the program

[@vyce.]

such a cool technique! thanks for the video

[@goldenthemerciless5669]

really fun, thanks so much

[@2wenty7even95]

Lovely tutorial

[@wutangpaul]

Really really nice. Agree, would sound great on vocal loops

[@j-star1]

Great tutorial

[@johndunn7733]

Very cool. Thanks for the tip

[@samkenny3075]

Really great tip! Gonna go mess around with it right now-- thanks!

[@bluecanarinho]

Simple but effective.....love it!

[@alf1o1]

nice, will try this on a makenoise morphagene

[@eleckson]

I'd rather just make my own choices on where to slice the sample, and sequence those chops with some thought behind it. This would work great with live improv looping though.

[@zero2kx]

Thank you so much for the tutorial! This is so cool

[@frederikgroborsch3367]

more more more!

[@johndunn7733]

Killer tutorial and under 5 mins

[@pointblankmusicschool]

We aim to please!

[@yuvigerstein]

Awesome technique

[@flow9592]

Any ideas in how to modulate with the new Ableton Simpler?

[@ArthurSutherland]

Very nicely done, sir.

[@alexanderdornier7245]

what a cool technique

[@bobrobertsNotUrBob]

such a useful effective tip

[@alsoeris]

ive been sleeping on sampler modulation

[@GreasyWop]

this is so dope keep it comin boiz

[@toonbosschaert]

Thanks for this tip!

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

yo I just sampled the Sample Start Sample Point which features Sample Start Point, Sampler and Sample Middle Point from the Sample Point Series

[@Pete731]

Superb. Thanks!

[@Carlho80]

Similar effect to Granulator in M4L

[@MultigenreProducer]

Gracias maestro!

[@daniel_du_noy]

Wow! This is great!

[@88keysLA]

Is it possible to randomize the gate also?

[@auncor8889]

isn't this like granular synthesis?

[@boomananga]

Is there a way of doing this with "Simpler"?

[@kg_drums]

So I've done a workaround with simpler where you chop up the sample and use the arp to trigger the corresponding midi notes.

[@seanfromnewyork]

Bravo

[@NateHorn]

Nice one!

[@juanmanuelcasta2257]

wow very intersting!

[@mixtape_boy]

omg! nice!

[@marknesium]

very nice!

[@nozer88]

I love to do the same on my digitakt.

[@timbrane7726]

Did you use the Arpeggiator for this too ? i dont exactly get the point of using the ARP instead of using LFO Modulation of Sample Startpoint directly.

[@Alex-kh3dv]

Does anyone know if this can be done in Logic Pro, if so, how?

[@codenamedashman1541]

Yes, it is entirely possible in Logic. Use Quick Sampler - LFO 1 to Sample Start. Key Trigger Off. Random Waveform, Bipolar, Poly. Arp as a midi effect

[@Rakoah]

Cool trick, thank you! Is it possible to do this in Fl Studio too?

[@blanerampart4986]

There must be a way. I'm deffo not buying Ableton just so I can do this :)

[@adam6384]

use fruity peak controller to get a random starting point

[@blanerampart4986]

@@adam6384 How? (genuine question)

[@eeeyyyeee]

great tutorial. kind of a pain to volume up and down through it though because the voice-over is super loud.

[@Asiosky211]

is it? sounds fine on my headphones

[@fjoiewafno]

Agreed, using monitors, not headphones

[@thomasamos4055]

Presumably this is using the full Ableton sampler rather than Simpler?

[@indigo9336]

Is there a way to do this without the sampler but within the simpler

[@audus-music]

I tired this on Live Lite 10 are the additional controls like LFO2 not available on this version of Live ?

[@eriksteverman]

why wouldn't you just turn re-trigger mode off to get the same effect as the random LFO waveform???

[@bimguff]

I'd think it would be a lot less random doing that.

[@greggrant8878]

do i have to have higher than Ableton intro to do this?

[@jocgv]

I think this is how the song A.C.I.D. - Kink, Red Eye was made

[@baliyachtservices7505]

nice

[@__peix2774]

just watched Daedelus do a similar thing to this in an Andrew Huang video

[@CircleofShit]

Hey guys, I'd like to make weird synth and techno music, just all electronic music and add weird stuff into it (lol). Do you guys recommend Ableton Live? Alot of people have told me Fruity Loops is the way to go, so I just have no idea what DAW to get.

[@kaibarrera9911]

Doesn't matter. Use what is available to you. Try whatever you want and see if it gels with you

[@CircleofShit]

@@kaibarrera9911 these DAWS look so complicated tho.

[@CircleofShit]

@@kaibarrera9911 i should have said which DAW is easier to learn and navigate for noobs like me.

[@wifoutteef]

@@CircleofShit Neither, but I personally understand Ableton more. You do not have to pick your "forever DAW" right now. I started in Reason 4.0 in 2011 or something, and tried ableton for the first time in 2018 and wish I got it earlier. But my friend is more skilled in FL studio compared to me in either of those. You might also enjoy a standalone hardware groovebox like the Novation Circuit Tracks, I wish I got that earlier on in my journey.

[@CircleofShit]

@@wifoutteef thanks man. Is the groovebox a plug in?

[@DavidAsh42]

Great tips here man. Thank you. And all your videos are great. I notice that this video has much more traffic than most... I guess we all just want to sound like Bonobo and Fourtet... :P seriously thanks

[@matony19]

do we have arpeggiator like in the first example in Maschine?

[@itsgoubie]

I hope it works on the Lite version

[@Carlho80]

No you need Sampler not Simpler that included in Lite

[@itsgoubie]

@@Carlho80 i got Ableton Suite now, i'll try it out

[@RalexNSW]

Thanks for the tutorial. All I can hear is the sound of the midi instrument in the arpeggiator, not the sample. looks like I have copied everything else correctly. aargh.

[@testingitem]

now i will sample your intro

[@timbrane7726]

why are you using the ARP ?, why not using a LFO to modulate the Sample startpoint directly in the Sampler ?

[@Pmckean4115]

I don't see the modulation control at my sample. Can someone help me out?

[@sidneyXsidney]

What Type of Ableton are you on? Suite or Regular?

[@Pmckean4115]

@@sidneyXsidney Suite!

[@stolencoats63]

@@Pmckean4115 are you using simpler or sampler? That could be the issue.

[@Pmckean4115]

@@stolencoats63 Yes! Thank you!

[@stolencoats63]

@@Pmckean4115 no problem!

[@fatmike9849]

How could this be done in FL studio?

[@Elliott.Revell]

How can I become a tutor at pointblank?

[@Somnia0500]

its no longer working idk why

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Does Abalten 11 only work well using a Audio interface asio driver? Because for Me its clocking 70 to 80% CPU when its hardly doing anything. Currently its unusable

[@scorpiusnine8317]

How muh RAM does syour computer have?

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@scorpiusnine8317 HP Core i5 7th Gen 2.5GHzMemory (RAM)8GB Storage256GB SSD

[@drewlichty8091]

Anyone know how to do this in FL studio?

[@jimmywheelo]

Similar to how the Digitakt can behave with samples with trig conditions

[@jamesmagee4965]

Do you need suite to do this?

[@Carlho80]

Yeah

[@liamkennedy5702]

as someone who uses FL, studio, does anyone know if there's any way to replicate this sound?

[@juanrojas7505]

I dont know if theres is a way to do this with stock plugins inside FL. but it is possible do it with Phase plant inside fl

[@sevenday379]

How to do it in fl studio?

[@danielroman9310]

Ableton is better, girl.

[@crackthefoundation_]

@@danielroman9310 no

[@Tinderbiddles]

Is this for people who collect sneakers and watch NBA?

[@lempepe4291]

Eeeeeh macarena AHHHAY!

[@NathanChisholm041]

How about chop up and sample your way! I don't get this obsession to sound like others.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Because using popular names in the Video title, tags, audio, description ranks alot higher in KZbin and Google then not. Example Which one of these videos will get more views? "How to sing vocals like a pro" or "How to sing like Adele"¿

[@whiskyngeets]

They're called "influences." Learning the methods of the greats is the classical way to study art.

[@secretsunofficial]

That sounds NOTHING like Bonobo lol

[@Big_Nigs64]

this is basically just granular synthesis

[@duart310]

som-pool

[@saber5401]

You could sample like yourself and not worry about anything just something original...

[@maw0380]

Oh no, not this ‘technique’ again. Has already been shown multiple times on different chanels for over a decade now

[@spoony01428]

lol this tut seems rippped off 'underdog music school' they recently posted the same technique