Apart from the slightly too short compression plug used, this is spot on and by far the most comprehensive and useful video on compression plug in YT.
@RobertAdams-ly5ku5 ай бұрын
You must be kidding, terrible instalation
@DrStoat5 жыл бұрын
I think you may have just prevented me from wrecking my carbon steering tube! Thank you for this really useful guide.
@subzon10 жыл бұрын
Finally! I have an ENVE fork on my Lynskey and I could not get the headset to tighten down when reassembling it... I didn't notice that 6mm hex inside and spent a couple of frustrated hours before finding this video.
@monsieurmartin4496Ай бұрын
Same! This video saved me so much frustration.
@pauldunlap354310 жыл бұрын
Concise, clear, excellent video! Thanks for the professional job!
@Bugumir4 жыл бұрын
Shucks. I stripped a bolt head before coming here. At least I know for next time. Great little video. Thanks.
@ramblex4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks! I had a loose headset which I couldn't tighten and the problem turned out being the compression plug wasn't done up enough. 3:46 and an instant fix :D :D
@fabricewillemin26832 жыл бұрын
Great video, clear, concise and to the point. Thank you!
@mistatwist14 жыл бұрын
Really Helped me out watching this, never used a compression plug before so wasn't sure how to fit it, so after trying a few times that resulted in epic fails everytime, i searched n found this video, thank you so much guys!!! My Bike is all good running sweet with new forks thanks to you lot!!!
@Methnerjacob10 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I understand how it works now!
@wallawombat33208 ай бұрын
when you torque the plug in the steerer without fitting the stem, doesn't this balloon out, expand the top of the steer tube as it does not have the stems internal diameter to work against as a limit.
@aaronkeogh4 жыл бұрын
He mentions everything in this video, great explanation
@benlg912510 жыл бұрын
I've been troubleshooting headset play for weeks and finally fixed it with this video, much appreciated!
@keithdean44177 жыл бұрын
Good clear explanation.......maybe I'll get my local bike shop to do my rebuild!
@Ob1sdarkside6 жыл бұрын
Really good video for anyone using a compression bung for the first time.
@matthewlewis20723 жыл бұрын
Excellent - really clear, never done this before and now need to install one, so really helpful
@sigsputnik8 жыл бұрын
Very clear instructions - really helped me, thanks!
@juanvideofotos8 жыл бұрын
Excellent and very detailed video, thanks guys.
@ECTCCTV11 жыл бұрын
Do I have to use a 5MM spacer between the topcap and plug?
@Shianetto4 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to use compression plug on metal tube instead of starnut??
@LVQ-so5th5 ай бұрын
When using a torque wrench, you're supposed to grip it at the handle to get the proper torque measurement (see the Park Tool video on this topic).
@memoj.7273 Жыл бұрын
Usually how much is the tensile torque (N/m) setting for the headset expander compression plug (by using torque wrench) if i installed in an aluminum fork tube? Thanks..
@evsekkides45988 жыл бұрын
Don't you need some steerer tube above the stem to prevent the top stem bolt from cracking the steerer?
@ethansloss68548 жыл бұрын
not if you fit the compression plug properly and follow the torque specs of the stem.
@Randombourg5 ай бұрын
@@ethansloss6854how do you expect to install it properly, ie that pressure applied by the stem bolts is being resisted by compression plug when the top bolt is higher than the top of the plug?
@wiggos46219 жыл бұрын
Really clear, helpful video. Thanks!
@MarvinConnell8 жыл бұрын
Good day... Was that an aluminium stem? Is the use of aluminium stems 'okay' with carbon steerers? Thanks...
@clarencelaboranti48358 жыл бұрын
just make sure to tighten a bit below max indicated torque, and to leave the steerer at least at the same stack height the stem is at, if not longer. that means you'll use a 3 or 5mm spacer above the stem. if you don't do that (leaving the steerer shorter than the stack height of the stem) then the clamping force of the stem will eventually fray the edge of the fork steerer.
@MarvinConnell8 жыл бұрын
THANKS...
@pattskatoey31392 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen one of those before. I thought it was a star fangled nut that’s used in the steerer tube.
@YoMrBear3 жыл бұрын
Tutorial music is the best
@schumifan789 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks mate : )
@willwhite19878 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for this vid. Very informative.
@patiorio15382 жыл бұрын
my problem is i take top cap off . them the compression plug comes out with this huge bolt that's in the fork can you please explain that to me and how to reinstalled the fork
@r0adhee10 жыл бұрын
8nm for the torque to much?I have heard bulging of the carbon steerer fork and ending up cracking.
@albertozarate46019 жыл бұрын
I was working on my bike and noticed the bulging you are talking about. I didn't crack my steerer tube, at least I can't see any damage. But what I did find out, was that they sell longer compression plugs that will give you better compression with out having to over tighten and create a bulge. Other alternative Alloy steerer carbon fork. but weight weenies don't like that solution.
@gnarshreddingpowslayer9 жыл бұрын
+r0adhee The specific torque spec depends on the brand/model of the compression plug. It should be labeled.
@danceswithbadgers7 жыл бұрын
That's right. Always check first before tightening anything up more than you found it! The expander plug on my Specialized bike needs to go up to 9Nm. It's all dependant upon the design of the plug. Top cap torque is way below. Small screwdriver tight at most. That's less than 2Nm. Since I like to know I checked it out and found that by hand I was using about 2.4 Nm on my top cap using a 'spinner' driver. I've knocked this back to less than 2Nm without any problems to Canyon/Easton's recommendation of 1.6Nm for carbon steerer tubes now that I've got a torque wrench accurate enough at such low torques.
@kcb554 жыл бұрын
Is it the same procedure for the carbon MTB fork??
@DietgerPieters7 жыл бұрын
Thnx man you made me day :)
@ibcoleman3 жыл бұрын
"...but whatever you do, don't get grease on the sleeve." lol
@gnarshreddingpowslayer9 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks
@TheSpudnip10 жыл бұрын
I screw the top cap in and it seems to be tightening then it just gives way and loosens the compression plug... Any idea what's gone wrong?
@Methnerjacob10 жыл бұрын
No spacer.
@PInk77W13 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how u have 2 bolts going down the center ? Is the first one way far down ?
@davemilam3 жыл бұрын
There is only 1 bolt, the top cap bolt, and this is not used to install the plug. Remove the bolt from the plug and you will see that there is a larger hex key indent machined into the plug (takes a 6mm hex, compared to a 4mm for the bolt). Use the 6mm hex to install the plug, then install the stem and spacers, and finish the top cap with the bolt.
@cranebeg9 жыл бұрын
Better than the star spangled and reusable.
@advanhal63295 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ethanward64027 жыл бұрын
Will this work on a bmx aswell ?
@Methodical25 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed info.
@somendramainsingh802810 жыл бұрын
Good Video
@beauvalera14159 жыл бұрын
what is the purpose of a compression plug and why is it required to have one for a carbon fiber fork?
@luetzke9 жыл бұрын
Beau Valera so the carbon steer tube doesn't crack/split/explode from over-tightening, hence the torque wrench for exact tensioning on the compression plug
@directtalk18 жыл бұрын
perfect. thanks
@wasupwitdat1mofiki944 жыл бұрын
I've heard from experts that using a compression plug that short is a bad idea because it can cause the steerer tube to break right under the stem even easier. I always buy plugs of at least 60mm in length. If you think the few grams saving you are going to get will provide enough security then be my guest and use one but I don't trust the bike industry knows as much as they put on.
@noonster555 жыл бұрын
Will it work on any modern bike ie 2020 Trek Emonda?
@kdiggitydog76963 жыл бұрын
Yep this will work on a 2020 Emonda. It's worth taking note of the length of the compression plug your bike came with. On my 2020 Emonda, the plug was actually shorter than the stack height of my stem, and in addition, Trek make you run at minimum a 5 mm spacer above the stem and below the top cap. This pushes the lower stem clamping bolt below the bottom of the compression plug such that upon tightening, you're clamping the steer tube where it's not supported from within by the plug. My advice: invest in a longer compression plug to minimize failure risks.
@BessedDrest8 жыл бұрын
Is there no recommended torque value for the top cap bolt?
@bshb52118 жыл бұрын
4nm maybe ;)
@ethansloss68548 жыл бұрын
Just tight enough to stop play in the headset. It's very low torque.
@danceswithbadgers7 жыл бұрын
The only torque spec I've ever seen for this is in a Canyon/Easton manual for carbon steerer tubes. This states 'manufacturer's recommended torque' or 1.6 Nm if you can't find your bike manufacturer's recommendation. That's no tighter than you could manage with a small electrical screwdriver-sized handle with a hex bit on the end. That's not very much, easily overdone with even the short end of an Allen key if you're a gorilla, so easy does it!
@gregwaste25945 ай бұрын
@@ethansloss6854 After 7 years this is the fucking correct answer. Everywhere I check I see like 5 Nm for the top cap, and this is just HORSE SHIT. Anything more than 2Nm literally does not remove any play from the headset and all it does is to start to slide the compression plug upwards.
@RYDEROWING2111 жыл бұрын
My compression plug is too large for the steerer, even though it says 1 1/8?
@NeoPayneHK4 жыл бұрын
did you try Squeeze it a little bit?
@johnfranklin70387 жыл бұрын
Incorrect use of torque wrench I'm afraid choking down will affect the torque. It's all about the principal of moments!
@justDave34537 жыл бұрын
very useful comment - NOT!
@johnfranklin70387 жыл бұрын
If you want to torque correctly it's a very useful comment
@CanIHasThisName6 жыл бұрын
Wrong. By tightening one bolt, you reduce the torque that's currently on the other bolt. So you need to alternate between the bolts before you get them both equally tight. If you do not do that, one of the bolts will have more tension on it's threads than the other, which can lead to failure or bad fitting. The torque wrench won't get it any tighter than it's set up to.
@wolfiesmith76742 жыл бұрын
That plug is to short to properly support the deflection>clamping force going through the steerer. Cheapskates.
@13ig13oots4 жыл бұрын
Really bad use of torque wrench, you have just over torqued the bolts by holding the torque wrench in the wrong place.
@fetB3 жыл бұрын
how do i learn about this just now. The star nut is such a shitty concept