The only one I truly agreed with was torb I swear to God it needs a nerf I was playing comp in gold and a fucking torb rolled our entire team in a 1v4 "because I was dead" and it all was because my team had no game sense
@HazeLmao Жыл бұрын
any dps player with half a brain will deal with a moira easily. if you have issues with that maybe stick to support until you’re more confident.
@bye1551 Жыл бұрын
I love that you included a character from all roles, so many guides focus just on DPS counters to other DPS this was really useful as a tank player!
@Chr0n0s38 Жыл бұрын
Useful for support too. I almost never see support options listed when I actually need them.
@bakuretsu9187 Жыл бұрын
Idk I feel like you can always win by playing space and applying basic principals at all times. Doesn't really require a counter pick.
@Chr0n0s38 Жыл бұрын
@@bakuretsu9187 Not entirely true. When the other team is running a counterpick into you, you eventually just have to swap. Playing Ana/Zen into dive heavy teams isn't really fun. Eventually you just play respawn simulator.
@bakuretsu9187 Жыл бұрын
@@Chr0n0s38 Fair enough, who runs ana/zen tho lmao Ik it's an exaggeration but that's a bit funny hahaha
@Chr0n0s38 Жыл бұрын
@@bakuretsu9187 Most of the supports are boring imo. Ana is the only one I have a ton of fun with.
@Solomon00000 Жыл бұрын
Me who mains Sym and stays in front of them the whole time: “So you think you know me?”
@kamii-sann Жыл бұрын
Me who mains Sym & slams all support/Winston players : 🙂
@pepperkitty2231 Жыл бұрын
@@kamii-sann she was so wrong on the counters for sym, and dva does not counter junkrat
@pepperkitty2231 Жыл бұрын
@@kamii-sann she was so wrong on the counters for sym, and dva does not counter junkrat
@LuisMartinez-vk9ww Жыл бұрын
@@pepperkitty2231 I think DVA is pretty good, she can eat the pancakes if your teammate is trapped, and if you dive him. He can't get away if you matrix on top of him cuz his pancake will immediately get eaten
@GaussianEntity Жыл бұрын
@@pepperkitty2231DVa is absolutely a rat counter. His hitbox lines up with her spread so easily that it's easy to crit and finish him off. You can willingly eat a trap and finish him off by DMing his shots and killing him on the reload if the Junkrat decides to stay for whatever reason. Which reminds me, learn to count shots as DVa.
@MonikaAsanoDokiDoki Жыл бұрын
"Do not get close to him when he's in sentry mode" Moira:Jumping is fun
@LumaSloth Жыл бұрын
*Symmetra* "...or any supports" _Me leaving the enemy backline with my teleporter after I just killed both supports and enraged the enemy tank:_ 👁👄👁
@thefearlessone2649 Жыл бұрын
Me with turrets: *Teleporter online*
@gregglemange Жыл бұрын
Sigma is a great counter to bastion. You can throw a rock at him in minigun mode, put your shield in his face or just absorb all his damage (and if he’s stupid you can get a bunch of over health from doing this)
@serzex1770 Жыл бұрын
Dva the best
@Bacon-qf4ql Жыл бұрын
@@serzex1770 wrong
@korvax9215 Жыл бұрын
@@Bacon-qf4qlno dva is solid against bastion dm just eats it and she can use boosters to be a harder target to hit or quickly break los (only as a last resort and make sure you com to your team about the bastion when you do this)
@Bacon-qf4ql Жыл бұрын
@@korvax9215 sigma is still better against bastion because he can stop his spam with all 3 of his abilities, dva can with one the only thing dva has is the bigger spread of her bullets for a slight higher damage output on bastion
@KikiCatMeow Жыл бұрын
@@Bacon-qf4qlyeah but accretion only stuns for like a second and you don’t want to waste your shield los’ing a bastion (he’s going to destroy it immediately) Grasp is good but as soon as it runs out he’ll start shredding you. The only way to effectively deal with a bastion is to use grasp in his face then accretion immediately after, which wastes 2 abilities for 1 Dva can completely neg his assault form with dm and melt him with her guns
@junthemaledicted Жыл бұрын
Tbh Sym ever since OW2 tp spamming isn’t just all she does, she’s amazing at drawing Aggro and she can easily break up unorganized compositions so if your team doesn’t ping or use comms you’re guaranteed to lose
@vriskaserket8058 Жыл бұрын
Sym is smack talked so hard. I swear she's not that bad
@synxzix916 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but she is annoying af
@redr6107 Жыл бұрын
Ik ..
@archiemetherell Жыл бұрын
Her beam can destroy pretty much all tanks so easily.
@vriskaserket8058 Жыл бұрын
@@archiemetherell Yeah it's only in higher tier comp that she starts to suffer.
@smurphas6119 Жыл бұрын
her damage is insane
@ivanocampo8146 Жыл бұрын
genji is also a really good counter for bastion since bastions hitbox is big genji’s shuriken can land more frequently and genji’s deflect allows him to go in front of bastion in his sentry mode
@ramsbuttom1603 Жыл бұрын
When ever I see bastion I usually go genji and deflect those minigun shots
@Shadow30. Жыл бұрын
Hehe (me as bastion) look at this idiot
@dumpstajuice Жыл бұрын
Sym enters the chat laughing her arse off
@ionizedactor3994 Жыл бұрын
For bastion you might also want to watch out for in-closed areas when against him. His grenade have alot of room for error
@buttlessbandit6100 Жыл бұрын
I would add two things to this list 1: bastion, stay away from turret form as every tank but sigma, because sigma can gain 400 hp during his turret form and then use accretion to stun him for his team. 2: for countering sym any support helps but i've found that brig really helps as she can beat her by strafing since she has burst options and a wider angle than sym to damage, also she completely doesn't care about sym's ult and can still easily focus her.
@NachtBogen Жыл бұрын
My personal favorite is watching my tank and dps walk into syms turrets and proceed to ignore them while being beamed to death. Makes my job as healer interesting
@dilutedskiff6840 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wanted to say thanks, I didn't think I'd enjoy educational content about ow but you seem to do it in a concise way that doesn't overwhelm me with too much information
@Mintybird Жыл бұрын
Zarya is also quite good against Junkrat. She usually doesn't have the range to engage him directly when he has high ground, but her bubbles will actively turn his damage into a detriment to his own team.
@snobross Жыл бұрын
Bastion main here, the biggest counter against an aggressive Bastion will always be Sigma, his kit is literally perfectly designed to counter Bastion. When the shield is properly positioned, it's an absolute time waster if the Bastion is in Tank mode to try and chew through. Sigma's rock throw is a great way to delay or wait out the tank mode since it the stun really wastes a lot of time, and if the Bastion is a brainless only fire turret in tank mode, using black hole to suck up all of the attack, close the distance, and be god-like from the HP boost from sucking up all the attack, is literally how you turn yourself into a Sigma team sweeper. It's fun to be a Sigma against Bastion, but sucks being a Bastion against a Sigma if you don't know how to out pace him.
@Allman203 Жыл бұрын
I always get teammates who don’t know how to take out a torb turret and also teammates that don’t even notice sym turrets and keep moving forward while being attacked by them
@anthonyhill8305 Жыл бұрын
This is why defense junrat is better than offense junkrat cause you can't deny him high ground
@marngao Жыл бұрын
The amount of times I’ve seen bastions just straight mini gun into a genji only for them to die to deflect is amazing.
@cookedupasian7125 Жыл бұрын
Genji deflect intensifies
@AeroLXI Жыл бұрын
Just stop shooting? Its not hard when you know what they're gonna do lmao if you want to kill Bastion just play Reaper and 2 shot him
@cookedupasian7125 Жыл бұрын
@@AeroLXI that’s the thing bastions that I go up against are blind
@CommanderNam Жыл бұрын
You’d think winston would counter sym but oh boy did i LOVE farming my beam on his shield and using it against him
@elixavibuddies2951 Жыл бұрын
How to counter counters Bastion:you can grenade jump ti increase mobility if you didn't know Junk rat:if you have 1000 hours of tf2 demoman I don't think you have a problem and if you aren't just immediately get back up Torb:you are smol not big and while he is focusing on your gun just well shoot him Symetra:use teleporter and but it behind but don't go in put 3 sentries instead yes the can go in the teleporter
@cdxxlxil9159 Жыл бұрын
You missed arguably the most important one: Pharah Pharah is incredibly oppressive in open maps and can be defestating against team compositions like Poke and Brawl that heavily close encounter combat and keeping together as a team. It also doesn't make it better that Pharah can deny the protection of the tank making Sigma and Rein shit and Zarya losing power as she needs to give sustain to her teammates and risk dying since she can't possibly reach her. So here are some counters: Obviously everyone's go for dealing with everyone's hated Egyption Locust is Soldied, Sojourn, and Widow since they provide powerful hitscan at medium to long range. (NOTE: Sojourn's primary counts as projectiles but her secondary is hitscan.) A well placed Torb turret creats a field of influence that prevents her from crossing into your mid or backline without the risk of death; placing your turret in high places that may require high elevation or strange off angles will either force her to shoot your turret while we can shoot her or attempt to fight the enemy team while playing the world's worst game of peek-a-boo. The existence of a Roadhog on your team effectively tells her "don't peak or you'll have a bad time." Dva also is good against Pharah but for the exact opposite reason: since Dva can fly and has infinite sustain in combat, she can dive to her, maybe eat a ro ket for lunch and kill her.
@jack_wang7681 Жыл бұрын
I, as a junkrat main, usually stay far behind or around covers. I don't go high grounds. I play angles and traps strategies.
@SHADOWLEGENDDRAWS Жыл бұрын
When bastion goes turret mode just be genji and deflect all shots right in front of him before he can react and when he realises or the ability gets over, dash to end him. Even if he reacts fast enough, that's substantial damage to bastion.
@jeffb6276 Жыл бұрын
"...don't follow her into suspicious rooms..." *memories floor of being the leader to said sus rooms* 😊
@Iri504 Жыл бұрын
"Any support" My my, I can't wait to roll Sym as Mercy 👉🏻👈🏻
@nocfox3050 Жыл бұрын
"Focus his Turret" I wish other players actually did that rather than turning around and bending over
@pancakes7110 Жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious to deflect a bastion mini gun with genii and just watch him melt
@gabrielalves303 Жыл бұрын
The junkrat tip is interesting because it's applicable precisely in the lower ranks. The playstyle you mentioned is incorrect and ineffective in the necessary overwatch playstyle but it is the way that people play the character. Ideally you want to flank and get a surprise pick or two, but since people insist on spamming shots that aren't gonna hit anyone I guess technically you're correct.
@gabrielalves303 Жыл бұрын
DVa and pharah absolutely, bap? Why?
@pastawizard8037 Жыл бұрын
As a torb main, it depends on the rank and how the turret is set up for when you should focus turret. Many high rank torbs would place their turret somewhere in the hopes you take your attention to it or place it as flank watch, many underestimate torbs raw power don't make that mistake.
@SomeAnts Жыл бұрын
Torb shotgun go crazy, turret can be used as a distraction. Put distance is the real answer fr fr
@gabrielpost7743 Жыл бұрын
The tip for bastion can also be volleyed around by using kinetic grasp as a post cooldown shield against bastion.
@Jacky397 Жыл бұрын
As a torb and junkrat main I can agree with these statements if someone focuses my turret and Denys me high ground it can be hard Great video
@silentkiller2207 Жыл бұрын
I love how this is good to help beginners get a hang of the game and eventually a better understanding. However the whole purpose of the game is to adapt and overcome with any means any hero beats any hero it’s all based on player skill yes switching up helps but not always because if your skill level is gapped by the dps and they have more knowledge than you on how to play you like a fiddle I’m sorry to say but play to their tune and your dead either way I’ve seen dps played solo teams with just how skilled they are it’s crazy but it’s true the reality is it’s teamwork and skill that gets the kills in games like this no matter what comp you use to beat your opponent. This is just my opinion though I hope y’all can respect it and I respect y’all’s own opinions. Thank you for your time
@phoenixflame2604 Жыл бұрын
As a semi junk main, as bap, long maintain longer range from junkrat, or use your immortality field to keep him from killing you at close range. 1 direct bomb + 1 con mine will kill almost any support or squishy fps.
@calciumboy406 Жыл бұрын
You can counter bastion in his turret mode with genji, with his block, if you position it so when he fires at you, you can head shot him with his own bullets
@joshuafairman8838 Жыл бұрын
As a Torb main, I am proud to be on this list. Also my hitbox may be wide but a good Torb knows how to circle and play around with it. A tip against that, if you see a Torb that knows movement, run cc character, or just Orisa.
@encirosawada5096 Жыл бұрын
I have some input for 2 of the DPS. 1. Junkrat. There is some junkrat player who play medium to short range. Using the 2 bomb and concussion combo. 2. Sym. Idk if sym get nerfed hard in OW2. But she is one of the dps i called shield buster because her weapon can get increased damage whet attacking and can replenish ammo if she attack shield. So yeah just somr input. Nice tips tho...
@opiman3079 Жыл бұрын
Being a sym main, try using Junker Queen, the heal effect can pratically negate sym damage and it's in the same range of her laser
@tuxninja7 Жыл бұрын
Genji also counters bastion, a lower level bastion will shoot straight into deflect while dash gives you good mobility to get away/behind his turret mode straight onto his crit box
@MrCrazy-dq8nq Жыл бұрын
When bastion is on turret mode you can use genji and deflect all the bullets towards bastion's face.
@sugr6244 Жыл бұрын
To counter bastion you gotta use Orisa, if you can try to close the gap on a bastion. Use fortify and then spin to deflect and then close use spear and then just headshot him. This is a good play when you have your ult or if nano is ready.
@A_Random_IRS_B0T_ Жыл бұрын
I find the best way to counter Junk is to not engage him at all and let him end up killing himself because he over extended.
@junkrat9881 Жыл бұрын
That only works at certain ranks
@Zbre3xplosif Жыл бұрын
Me thinking about Kenobi everytime when I hear "high ground" 😂
@Mr_Majik_Man Жыл бұрын
Me as junk rat jumping side to side mid air using both mines: Hit me, hit me!
@Jawalious Жыл бұрын
For bastion my first two people I thought would counter are tracer as bastion cant keep ip with her blinks, and because of his large hit-box tracer can easily hit all her shots. Next would be Genji his good mobility and going right up into the face of a bastion when in turret mode is good as the bastion would shoot you down as you are right in-front of him and then you use deflect making him lose all his health in 3 seconds
@John-hg8es Жыл бұрын
Tip for bastion you can jump with the bombs in normal configuration
@Spartan.1055 Жыл бұрын
Junkrat works so good against Sym actually, Well not against her little balls but he's still a pretty good counter as you can just spam her with your C4s whenever she gets close
@Ppty880 Жыл бұрын
To counter junkyard I count the shots and engaged when he is about to reload it helps that his gun is Lou af
@hunterlurvey698 Жыл бұрын
The torb one is pretty true, a well placed turret can pepper a distracted enemy team with insane damage
@eBoyGamer1106 Жыл бұрын
Pls I need a guide for annoying sombras. I play Ana sa I play more backline and its just so annoying when I get hacked even if I do get the kill on her, I focus my attention on sombra more than the team fight happening
@XXXXXX-tn6pl Жыл бұрын
Land your sleep, thats the only way. You can always switch or ask teammate supp to go brig to protecc u
@LegendaryBrownNinja Жыл бұрын
Counter Bastion with Genji as well. He can deflect al his attacks (except melee) and can even deflect his ult
@styxfighter9225 Жыл бұрын
"Do not get close to him especially when he's in turret form" Genji: mada mada
@johnathoncuratolo4573 Жыл бұрын
The fact that hog was the suggested counter to bastion over sigma…
@foxoboxo1233 Жыл бұрын
As a Bastion main, I must say this is pretty accurate, but you forgot that Moira and Reaper can shadow step, and Genji can deflect. Not to mention Sigma can suck, Orisa can spin, and pretty much everybody can deny a Bastion if they knew how. I won't tell you any more because I fear for my life. Good luck trying to counter me, when I have already countered you!
@ethanm.redacted3985 Жыл бұрын
CassiCree with a cool stick: 🏈
@cyborgvison2024 Жыл бұрын
Sigma is also pretty good against bastion, especially if they just unload into the siphon for no reason
@firstnamelastname9237 Жыл бұрын
Dude with exception of ultimates there is almost nothing that entertains me more than using sigma or genji to take up firestrikes or bastion spray. Especially when firestrikes had even more damage. I got such a kick out of that. Bastions I play against normally aren’t that incompetent anymore but sometimes it still happens.
@michellequinn6328 Жыл бұрын
I was too entranced with the gameplay that I forgot to listen 😅
@st0neman574 Жыл бұрын
Been telling people Winston was the best counter against Symmetra sphere shaped barrier a primary fire attacking multiple targets
@dawnssong2037 Жыл бұрын
As a junkrat main i can confirm that i hate going against pharah and bap
@cubingcomedy1296 Жыл бұрын
Might even say Sigma is a better counter to bastion. He can peek around corners and do respectable dps to him, absorb his bullets and waste his turret time, and block with shield
@smasher3261 Жыл бұрын
For bastion I think tracer and sigma are good counters since sigma gets more health the more bastion fires and tracer's spread and cooldowns + bastion's large hitbox and slow speed = a victory for tracer
@eliasmeza9765 Жыл бұрын
No more sus rooms, got it!
@Fourlamas Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the tips, im not new to OW but im getting into comp and stuff like this helps a lot
@gold7929 Жыл бұрын
Me who mains sigma: *Evil laughter* turret mode bastion: *cri*
@Apatheory Жыл бұрын
*me a casual junkrat player getting team kills on the lower ground*
@SomeoneYouHate Жыл бұрын
As tracer main i love how oblivious bastion players can be sometimes
@narkyroo Жыл бұрын
as a lucio main, i love messing with bastions, he’s a huge bastion counter if you’re good enough :)
@ADragonFruit440 Жыл бұрын
I wanna add to bastion, with genji you can fuck up any bastion in turret mode by using your deflection ability and redistributing bastions damage right back at him, always happens to Me whenever I use bastions against genji, literally only one way that fight will go and it’s genji every time
@meh458 Жыл бұрын
Until the bastion waits for deflect to stop and destroys you.
@Shadow30. Жыл бұрын
Nope
@ADragonFruit440 Жыл бұрын
@@meh458 it wastes turret time tho
@meh458 Жыл бұрын
@@ADragonFruit440 Why would you go into turret mode when genji is reflecting?
@Stellafurutorp Жыл бұрын
the sym slander i cant
@teowar2352 Жыл бұрын
as a torb main idk about those counters i can give you hanzo but zarya and zen idk. if you just use your right click and overload on zarya she will be dead in secs
@senioradahug Жыл бұрын
I never really tp behind people with sym, I usually pick her vs shield tanks or Mei so I can just charge the beam to max and engage when the shield breaks
@mattmourad601 Жыл бұрын
forgot the part where sym with charge can delete a 200 hp target in less then a second and a half
@azrex1721 Жыл бұрын
Me who rushes any Bastion I see as Sigma: 🗿☕
@InfinityDsbm Жыл бұрын
Sig counters bastion hard
@cjslime8847 Жыл бұрын
I find that genji is a good counter to bastion, I don’t normally play DPS but when I do I sometimes play bastion I swap , as soon as I see a genji due to his deflection ability
@crioh_ Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha jokes on you, I'm everywhere and nowhere when playing Junkrat.
@bear6901 Жыл бұрын
I use genji and Doom for bastion counter. With a time based shield and the mindless bastion players, they practically kill themselves
@WinstonSempai Жыл бұрын
for Hanzo/Genji and sym, winton can deal with them effectively
@JustAFishBeingAFish Жыл бұрын
Im a bastion main and tbh hos normal shoot is super easy to headshot with so imo the best counter is widowmaker since they are too far in the backline for me to do anything and as soon as i leave turret can oneshot me, the other one is reaper which if they swap reaper just ult and swap off bastion you are losing that 100% of the time
@dalwaydalway5085 Жыл бұрын
Me who mains bastion and junkrat : hmm yes I should do this
@wetstinkysocks2950 Жыл бұрын
Alright, now I just need really good teammates who don't try and 1 v 5 the entire enemy team lmao
@joshuaguzman6211 Жыл бұрын
I say sombra for bastion and Symmetra because that allows you to punish his attack form and symmetra can catch you if you’re not careful
@featherskaijay3060 Жыл бұрын
Bastion matchups against bastion: Tracer Reaper Hanzo Sombra Any character with a big qeapon spread
@flamingfalc0n527 Жыл бұрын
Also, don't get close to törb, his secondary does so much damage. You can solo a roadhog if you use your abilities right with secondary
@bonejangles6329 Жыл бұрын
mmmm i wouldnt focus torbs turret considering he's usually near it and if he sees you he can just hit e and hold right click at you to melt you
@Calvin-uk8po Жыл бұрын
Honestly genji is really good at killing bastion up close as well I feel like