Now that I finally understand how cryptic crosswords work, I can conclude that I still won't ever be able to complete one.
@euanmcdougall19173 жыл бұрын
This one was particularly difficult because it involved a lot of references.
@Alteffor3 жыл бұрын
I'm just finally starting to understand how to solve cryptics after watching all of the recent ones posted. For anyone struggling, here is a simple set of steps: 1) Read clue. 2) Do wizard gobbledygook. 3) Finish puzzle.
@megauser85122 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@bogdanbotezan71623 жыл бұрын
Sibiu is a Romanian city, which has a cycling tour: the cycling tour of Sibiu(turul ciclist al Sibiului)
@Goryus3 жыл бұрын
Simon, I think it would be very helpful for a lot of people on this channel for you to do an *extremely* beginner Cryptic Crossword video. Explaining things like where the definitions are found, how the clue surfaces don't actually mean anything, what the different kinds of clues are, etc. :)
@alistairbrown13083 жыл бұрын
Have you checked the CTC back catalogue I remember a similar video from a couple years ago
@alistairbrown13083 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHyXYaF4o6yCr9k maybe give this one a go?
@beintelegant3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Lovatts? It's free, daily, and is designed for beginners.
@Airantu3 жыл бұрын
Male and female in Clue 19 means that it is a name used by both females and males.
@samfarquhar18293 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Spurs have a player called Eric 'Dier' so when you made the joke I firstly thought of that instead of 'dire'!
@goodyeoman45343 жыл бұрын
I caught that lol
@bibliopolist3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Even Keat's first name "John" was mentioned in a clue. And airy is a word he used in his famous quote about the "airy citadel".
@edwina.t58663 жыл бұрын
Ah, here we go again. Questioning the efficacy of my 30+ years of speaking and reading English.
@truckerob703 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you spelt efficiency wrong on purpose for a joke...
@justsomeguy8923 жыл бұрын
@@truckerob70 Nope, efficacy is a word. It pretty much means "effectiveness".
@nickburton58713 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see a cryptic solve! My standard approach is 1) What does it mean? (ie the meaning of which word are we trying to find?) 2) Which is the "doing" word? (ie is there a word that tells you it is an anagram, hidden worse, reversed, sounds like, but spelt differently letter missing etc.?) 3) Is there an "aha!" word? (ie a word, which, in crosswords, has a few common abbreviations or alternatives (eg Dr for doctor, d for died or daughter, Ian for Scotsman, etc) which form part of the word we are looking for, 4) Is there an "Oooo!" word? An "Oooo!" word is one where you might say "Oooo! I wonder if that is an Aha! word?" ie a bit more obscure. 5) A question mark often indicated a double meaning of the whole clue. 6) Give it a hard stare! 7) Go and do something else, and let your subconscious have a go! Failure comes if I am unable to disambiguate the clue (a good CTC word, there!) or I'm ignorant of some meaning or word, which happens rather more than I'd like! But it amazes me how often a clue which stumps me one day, will become surprisingly clear the next day!
@escaperoomleander19483 жыл бұрын
So we only need to know French towns, English poets, Roman numerals, the French language, British slang, Romanian cities and sporting events, birding expressions, novelists, silent film stars...
@CrosswordRobert3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been getting addicted to cryptic crosswords lately, but it’s amazing to me that this is the standard crossword format in the UK. So tricky!
@gfvasco3 жыл бұрын
I am a Brasilian with intermediary/advanced english and I have no idea of most of the clues he decifres. Or even the explanation. After saying that, I cannot stop watching. I love listening he explaining it and beeing exited doing that!
@btnskillsh0t8103 жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy the logic of Cryptic Crosswords and the solve. Yet, it feels incredibly hard to really get into it yourself, especially when English is not your native language. I know the meaning of the clues but it would take ages until they would come to my mind in a solve.
@WheatGrinding3 жыл бұрын
It's not just knowing English, it's being from Britain specifically for most of these
@KveruLars3 жыл бұрын
@Wheat_Grinder Definitely. I'm quite fluent in English, as a second language, but I have NO CLUE when it comes to culture, slang and "inside information"
@Hedning13903 жыл бұрын
I can't even do anagrams in English. Like when I watch "8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown" I'm hopeless.
@SnowTheJamMan3 жыл бұрын
@@Hedning1390 I've gotten about 4 or 5 conundrums of like 50 i've seen and i'm very proud of myself.
@squelchedotter3 жыл бұрын
Not only that but a lot of them require knowledge that you'd only be familiar with if you grew up at a certain time in a certain cultural surrounding
@andreidaian24413 жыл бұрын
The only words I could figure out were "autumn" and "Sibiu". The latter is my native city, so it was quite funny watching Simon's struggle with the easiest word (to me !) :D
@euanmcdougall19173 жыл бұрын
I believe you mean Simon not Dave?
@andreidaian24413 жыл бұрын
@@euanmcdougall1917 Of course! Thanks for pointing it out!
@SilverKiMak3 жыл бұрын
You've got Romaniacs in your home city! Envyyy... :)
@rebeccamoore99933 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I absolutely love all of your cryptic crossword videos. I had never heard of a cryptic crossword before starting to watch you almost a year ago now. I've gone back and have watched all of your old crossword videos as well. I really love cryptics now. And there is a small group of us over on the Discord server having fun solving and setting cryptic puzzles, as well. We recently put out a collab puzzle that was very fun to set.
@bibliopolist3 жыл бұрын
Now what is the sum of all the digits of A to Z?
@yichen63133 жыл бұрын
Now that would be a knowledge bomb
@bobblebardsley3 жыл бұрын
I don't know X, Y and Z, but I know N is small and O + I = 1. Apparently.
@AlRoderick3 жыл бұрын
351
@tricia10720123 жыл бұрын
You don't know your triangular numbers to 26? Shocking!
@nickloader31843 жыл бұрын
Just 13×27. 13×30 - 13×3. 390 - 39.
@bibliopolist3 жыл бұрын
After the third mention of John Keats (which is something that the English do daily, I guess): what may the theme be here?
@MattyBGAMINGUK3 жыл бұрын
Lindsey can be both a male and female name
@Adrian_Grey3 жыл бұрын
Fanny Brawne was mentioned twice in the clues, she was Keats' lover.
@rostre3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking a little more time over explaining the clues today! Found this very useful, most of the classic abbreviations still escape me.
@theorganizedgrandma25233 жыл бұрын
I've never been able to work out cryptic clues, is I was super pleased just from watching you on this one video that I got the clue Ski Pole!!!! but not the way you worked it out
@nightwishlover89133 жыл бұрын
Here's a funny thing - Paul Kossoff was the son of David Kossoff, who played Alf Larkin on UK Television The Larkins - Simon's (unfortunately incorrect) answer to 2 down was LARKIN....
@christianloizou44633 жыл бұрын
"Male or Female" referring to the fact that "Lindsey (female) / Lindsay (male)" is a unisex name, perhaps?
@yiotatort3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a y thing male is xy female is xx
@ambergreen32983 жыл бұрын
I thought the same as i know both males and females with that name. When he said it i was like “yes!!!” And it annoyed me he didn’t know that and he knew these logics i would never think about 😂
@israelRaizer3 жыл бұрын
I thought it meant the name of a person, because it can be either male of female
@retards5873 жыл бұрын
stakeout was such a cool clue with all the anagrams for “keats” outside the puzzle grid
@powt0wn3 жыл бұрын
in case anyone wondering about KETAS - chambers tells me a keta is a pacific salmon (a more obscure fish than the IDE?)
@missioncardiac75993 жыл бұрын
A cracking crossword. Solved it in 70 min (but missed some of the parsing, so enjoyed Simon whizzing through some clues that had me stumped for some time. However I was laughing when Simon blithely put in Larkin, which was too clever by half! Having got Endymion earlier the first poet that came to my mind for 2down was indeed Keats. But I absolutely missed the Keats anagrams around the edges. Brilliant.
@paradise27833 жыл бұрын
Is there a recording of that zoom call somewhere?
@Rafabeen943 жыл бұрын
I'd love to watch as well!
@PhilPreen3 жыл бұрын
43:52 Simon gets the guitar out :-)
@SimCityOver90003 жыл бұрын
Nice little jab on the Spurs, there!
@Rafabeen943 жыл бұрын
"There might be a famous person called Linklater" yes, Richard Linklater, director of Boyhood and the Before Trilogy.
@StorymasterQ3 жыл бұрын
When he tells an anecdote he once saw in a website somewhere, but can't search for it because he didn't have access to internet at the time, does he say that he'll give the linklater?
@Rafabeen943 жыл бұрын
@@StorymasterQ wow. Wow wow wow
@noahkilgus98603 жыл бұрын
The Tom Lehrer reference is incredibly appreciated
@chrisj503 жыл бұрын
Now there’s a treasure trove of content for a themed crossword!
@nofeetmemestealers18673 жыл бұрын
Honestly have never been so confused in my life, makes me realise how smart some people are
@Hedning13903 жыл бұрын
Practiced, not smart. Although smart helps too.
@henryhaak48103 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I think I may have lost my ability to speak english
@peanutbutteranjalii3 жыл бұрын
simon explained the answer to every clue but im still so confused on how you get there by yourself 😭
@Pachyo3 жыл бұрын
The very first Chord you've played on guitar reminded me of "Father and Son" by Cat Stevens. I almost shed a tear and I loved it!
@philipjohnt3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if the DG Zoom is available to watch retrospectively
@davidkay66553 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Rude rejection I was trying to justify pissoff before he put the anagram round the edge
@missioncardiac75993 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha I had piss off as well for a while, then thought it would be too rude!
@girlindigo83 жыл бұрын
4 down is probably Richard Linklater the film director. Can't think of any others.
@stardustbiscuits3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on solving Minesweeper
@charloo5878 Жыл бұрын
This one was a barn burner Simon! Thanks for a good time!
@KalOrtPor3 жыл бұрын
If you're from the US and trying to solve these, you're at a severe disadvantage and it is almost impossibly difficult. Terms like: CID, loo, pen, Nevil Shute, John Keats (and for most, poets in general), sweet Fanny Adams, Postman Pat, China (for friend), Peel/Douglas on the Isle of Man, Tottenham Hotspur, and nibs are all things that would be considered obscure or completely unknown. Clever wordplay of this nature is also more culturally British and comes easier than to others, while its popularity in Europe and relative obscurity elsewhere is reinforced by the top setters and puzzles coming out of the UK, and being UK-centric with foreign and archaic phrases and roots. Now get that down your gregory!
@mickeyjupp13 жыл бұрын
Nevil Shute was knowable no?
@KalOrtPor3 жыл бұрын
@@mickeyjupp1 I'm sure for some more well-read people, but to general Americans probably no....though it's not likely a random person off the street in the UK is going to be familiar with a pep rally or "the devil is beating his wife" either.
@jimmarshall53373 жыл бұрын
These cryptic crossword tutorials must be doing the trick for me as there was a cryptic type question on Only Connect which I managed to get.
@kilimanjarocruz6603 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. More Cryptic content please, I love those.
@Anne_Mahoney3 жыл бұрын
Simon, I would have loved to hear you recite off rather more of "Endymion" -- A thing of beauty is a joy for ever: Its loveliness increases; it will never Pass into nothingness; but still will keep A bower quiet for us, and a sleep Full of sweet dreams, and health, and quiet breathing.
@shifttheshaman3 жыл бұрын
I don't suppose the Zoom call from Dave Gorman was uploaded anywhere?
@MarkJGGs3 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to be a person with the kind of esoteric knowledge required to solves these clues, but alas instead of doing the work, I watch stuff like this on youtube.
@Pwecko3 жыл бұрын
I managed to get ten answers before watching the video, including the KISS OFF one. Being a lifelong fan of Free helped there. Knowing absolutely nothing about Kents made the rest of the puzzle a little bit harder.
@Pwecko3 жыл бұрын
Keats, not Kents. Autocorrect is a pain in the backside.
@user-yl3pp8fy9w3 жыл бұрын
It would be hard if you had N's where your A's were 😂
@Ruddigore3 жыл бұрын
I found this a nice cryptic puzzle to do, much of it was well within my pay grade. The only answer that really left me out in the cold was 'Sibiu' I took a guess at it but I must confess I did check that it existed on google before I submitted my completed puzzle. It was funny to see Simon struggle on the same clue.
@peterkelley63443 жыл бұрын
American here: Shakes my head. And here I thought we had bizarre crossword puzzles.
@rosiefay72832 жыл бұрын
32:10 23D Perhaps Hob's idea was that "Heads" is the def, and "those" refers back to "heads" as first-letter indication.
@nickjayyoung76623 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch Dave solving a cryptic crossword? I honestly would like to watch it? Is it on Patreon and I somehow missed it?
@bristolrovers273 жыл бұрын
Terrific to see another crossword A Tough one Well solved
@ieatatsonic3 жыл бұрын
I somehow got 15D on my own and proceeded to laugh at the wordplay. Genius.
@TomBruhh3 жыл бұрын
My first ever genuine attempt at a cryptic crossword, and I got Omsk, Odes, Autumn, Newel and Capita. Quite proud of myself even though some of the clues made me think my brain had stopped working.
@NobodyXaldyn3 жыл бұрын
Is there a VOD available of Dave's video? I've tried searching but been unsuccessful.
@camdent66193 жыл бұрын
I got Ski Pole, and that’s my highlight. That’s one more than the last few times!
@mikefr963 жыл бұрын
More of this please
@GordonjSmith12 жыл бұрын
Totally prefer the cryptic puzzles to the sudoko. Lots more please. I love it when my brain itches :-)
@Shif80 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a link to the zoom call that Simon mentioned at the start
@henrymarkson37583 жыл бұрын
I would have googled "Romanian Cities" without feeling any shame
@I_LoveBubbas3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how these puzzles work lol
@Wecoc13 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you have to draw a line across the labyrinth and get out in the other side.
@cycklist3 жыл бұрын
Too stupid for crosswords? Try sudoku.
@I_LoveBubbas3 жыл бұрын
@@cycklist i know how sudoku works, i just dont know how crosswordpuzzels work
@carteryott77103 жыл бұрын
Simon and Mark, it seems so easy when you lay it out for me in these beginner videos, but when I try to do them I can only ever get a few clues from the definitions... I’m only 15 and I’m from Canada so a lot of the vocabulary and references are unusual to me, but still I feel like I should be getting more. Do you think it would be helpful to study the short reference-words, or is there anything I can do to get better? It’s very frustrating
@kindlin3 жыл бұрын
This puzzle _was absolutely _*_ridiculous!_* How in the name of holy mother of FSM were you able to get even half, nay a quarter, nay EVEN A SINGLE DAMN ONE of these clues!! Absolutely remarkable. I'm speechless, this puzzle was ridiculously. Never. I will never do one of these puzzles. EDIT: In fact, I don't even know half of these words (like, literally never heard them) or any of the people. This is just madness.
@gordonglenn20893 жыл бұрын
I loved 16A! Not being that familiar with them, I immediately Googled the band Free. All Right Now! :-)
@Oblivion7763 жыл бұрын
Worth noting for those who are trying to break into cryptic crosswords but are put off by this and Dave's puzzle that the Independent's crosswords are _terrible_ starting points for newcomers, especially those who are not native Brits. They are replete with Britishisms and contemporary cultural references that are inaccessible to foreigners and they are also well known in the crossword world for being willing to play a bit loose with the rules and conventions of cryptics. The Times is a bit better in both respects, especially their Quick Cryptics which are relatively digestible, but unfortunately are also locked behind a paywall (they do sell compilations of the Quick Cryptics on Amazon for cheap, though, which can be a good starting point). Peter Glass also has a couple of books called "Cryptic Crosswords - for fun!" that are crafted to be relatively region agnostic and are generally more approachable.
@missioncardiac75993 жыл бұрын
The other not so difficult, but still great fun cryptics are the guardian Quiptics on Mondays (free). And if you are stuck on a word you can reveal. Guardian Sunday Everyman and Monday regular are also quite "approachable". And the parsing is available at the fifteen squared website.
@gordonglenn20893 жыл бұрын
The Times Quick Cryptics books are available on Amazon, etc. Very approachable for a North American who has become adept at solving GAMES magazine cryptic puzzles, with a few Britishisms still getting me perplexed.
@sohein3 жыл бұрын
Surely the Zoom call was recorded? Where can we find a link?
@garymacmillan64013 жыл бұрын
Is Dave's Zoom call going to made available?
@freyadunn26213 жыл бұрын
Dave Gorman retweeted !!
@teliots3 жыл бұрын
The Spurs are an NBA team from San Antonio. Very confusing to me when you were talking about some other Spurs team.
@KalOrtPor3 жыл бұрын
I'm almost certain it was referring to Tottenham Hotspur, a London football (soccer) team also known as the Spurs. Most of these puzzles and the best setters are from the UK where they're popular, and along with all the international and historical references Europeans tend to be more familiar with, I think it's next to impossible for non-natives to be able to solve unless extremely well-versed in British English and culture.
@joefoxon753 жыл бұрын
For "lucid", I thought the clue was "loo said" with some force, I guess it worked!
@KettleandString3 жыл бұрын
I try and do a cryptic each week (telegraph so easy) but this is hard!! Some of these words are very obscure!
@hugobouma3 жыл бұрын
31:15 How does this "China"-"friend" connection work?
@nickloader31843 жыл бұрын
China plate is Cockney rhyming slang for mate (friend), then china plate gets shortened to china so that people have no idea what's going on haha
@hugobouma3 жыл бұрын
@@nickloader3184 Ahh, got it, thank you. Usually when the clues refer to people I have just never heard of, it's clear what I'm missing, but this one went right over my head.
@alfazenntauri63283 жыл бұрын
I would have gotten zero clues, but I feel smart knowing Sibiu is a Romanian City.
@Luckingsworth3 жыл бұрын
I surprised myself actually getting lucid before it was explained.
@beachsnail3 жыл бұрын
I would have given up with many of those clues, but strangely, I did get TRICK and KISS-OFF quite quickly.
@nickloader31843 жыл бұрын
For it to cycle to make SIBIU, it'd have to start as IBIUS which means 'before lunchtime' means 'has before it, lunchtime', I guess this is fair but seems unnecessarily complicated. Why not just 'after lunchtime'? Does it happening 'before lunchtime' really add to the drama of the story haha?
@inediblenut3 жыл бұрын
If I didn't watch Simon solve these, I would doubt that anyone could ever figure them out. I do American crosswords, which must seem idiotically simple to Brits compared to these.
@Anne_Mahoney3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Mark has done some videos where he solves American-style crosswords and he's often surprised by the different conventions -- little word-play, answers can be phrases or hyphenated without any indication in the clue, and so on. Then, too, the pop-culture references are frequently opaque if you're on the wrong side of the Atlantic (in either direction). I find American crosswords either too easy or too full of references that only make sense to someone half my age, so I don't do a lot of them; but I'm still not facile enough to do cryptics even though I grew up around them -- my father loved crosswords of all sorts and did moderately difficult cryptics without breaking a sweat.
@gerrygunn51093 жыл бұрын
Eagle's lofty perch nest, aerie.
@SamBrev5 ай бұрын
Since you were helped out by Tom Lehrer and Free: fans of the band Violent Femmes would have understood the "rude rejection" a bit quicker than you did!
@billiamswartz23553 жыл бұрын
39:45 Sibiu is a Transylvanian city also, this is one of the most horrifyingly difficult puzzles I've ever seen are all cryptic crosswords like this
@powt0wn3 жыл бұрын
this is a fairly tricky one imo!
@andrewgrant65163 жыл бұрын
And in transylvania of course, the teeth have nibs, and you need to get your stake out.
@pickerjo20003 жыл бұрын
Yeh this is great except I know nothing about poetry or geography or any of most of the answers
@TheTruth-xp2of3 жыл бұрын
John Keats references 5 Down, Ode on a Grecian Urn 6 Across, 7 Across, To Fanny 9 Across, 23 Down, Ode to Psyche 11 Across, Ode to a Nightingale 12 Across, To Autumn 21 Across, Endymion 21 Across, Ode on Indolence 21 Across, Ode on Melancholy 23 Down, Hymn to Apollo 26 Across, To Sleep
@missioncardiac75993 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I missed some of these references.
@lukebradford3 жыл бұрын
SPOILER ALERT: Even further wordplay on 25 down: A guitar also has a neck, and you can use a bottle neck as a slider.
@istilldontcare23 жыл бұрын
Lindsay is a gender neutral name. So it could be male or female
@quinnbartlett7233 Жыл бұрын
You missed that a neck is part of a guitar. Its funny, the ckues you skip past quickly are often the ones i find easiest, whereas a clue i have no idea with you'll get after a few seconds
@dirtywashedupsparkle2 жыл бұрын
Brutal clues there - you need knowledge of not only English but British references. 24-A Was happy: in what universe does happy mean to scramble or anagram??? Tough cryptic, and a little unfair in a few places, so really great skills there. Thankfully there are easier ones around for the rest of us to feel better with.
@hendrikd21133 жыл бұрын
I think 15 is the only one I can solve by my self.
@roro.323 жыл бұрын
7:54 for the team ______________ Spurs. What does he say?
@goodyeoman45343 жыл бұрын
I always get stuck after completing about half a cryptic. Especially if the clues contain a lot of obscure references.
@darkmaster96073 жыл бұрын
Lindsay can be both a male or female name
@PhilPreen3 жыл бұрын
Lindsay as a first name can be male or female.
@Cleanblue19903 жыл бұрын
For me as a non-native English speaker, this crossword is absolutely impossible. I do know some play on words, but these deductions are not accessible to me. I must be missing quite a vocabulary.
@amoswittenbergsmusings3 жыл бұрын
Don't give up! I am a non-native English speaker. My mother languages are Dutch, German and Czech. But I have bought into the world of English crosswords and they have become a staple diet. I would not want to tackle this level of difficulty but I do the Daily Telegraph's, back page and Toughie. It is pure joy to creep into the mind of a brilliant setter. Some of these clues are so incredibly good that they remain with you forever. Just learn to read very literally. Pick up some standard techniques. Get used to conventional crosswordese, new=N, one=I, nothing, love=O, speed=RATE or MPH. Before you know it you are doing really good crosswords.
@forthrightgambitia1032 Жыл бұрын
Pen is a female swan. But also worth remembering cob is a male one!
@LednacekZ3 жыл бұрын
welcome the the class English as your 100th language
@Bootenks3 жыл бұрын
As non-native speaker I must confess, when I would do this, it would be a mess.
@manwalrus3 жыл бұрын
"Recondite" though.
@WilliametcCook Жыл бұрын
It’s just occurred to me that on top of the weird cryptic logic, you also need to have an extensive knowledge of synonyms and pop culture and while, yeah, duh, it’s a crossword, this information is devastating to me