How to curb male loneliness and help boys find purpose

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@Doberman_6773
@Doberman_6773 6 ай бұрын
1:48 - So, if men are supposed to give more than they get, then someone else is getting more than they give. You're telling on yourselves; if we were equal, giving and getting should be in balance.
@j.davila4523
@j.davila4523 6 ай бұрын
Women say they want equality…but that’s far from the truth, women are consumers…that is their nature
@LIVdaBrand
@LIVdaBrand 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. I don’t like this guy. He’s part of the problem smh
@DerekGotega
@DerekGotega 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I didn’t like how he said a MIGTOW man is not a man. Shame on men for not acting the way I want them to.
@Doberman_6773
@Doberman_6773 2 ай бұрын
@@DerekGotega The fact that he mentions MGTOW right after talking about how "Real masculinity (nice shaming language, btw) is about giving more than you get back" makes it glaringly obvious who's on the other side of that, who's 'supposed to' get more than they give. Their concern is fake; they're not interested in solving *YOUR* problem, but someone else's.
@DerekGotega
@DerekGotega 2 ай бұрын
@ I hear ya. Richard Reeves “kissed the ring” so many times he’s conformed to a lot of WOKE pressures and isn’t the same thing he started out as. He’s a completely different thing.
@larrythelieutenant1783
@larrythelieutenant1783 6 ай бұрын
The fact that CNBC is hosting a panel discussion about the development of young boys tells you how bad it is. The framework should be adjusted to include the risks men assume in society and the agency/resources of men are NOT supposed to benefit women.
@firstlast8258
@firstlast8258 6 ай бұрын
Soyciety
@Joey_Lance
@Joey_Lance 6 ай бұрын
True.
@Nygma07
@Nygma07 6 ай бұрын
The serious thing is that women are going to have to work, not because they care about men 😛 they are going to have to do the ugly jobs that are what they expect from you
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
They are afraid that men go rightwing.
@dafafaaf7679
@dafafaaf7679 4 ай бұрын
@@jutsu1Lol rightwing? Men go MGTOW
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
18:20 we need you to support women. All we are to them is tools? Support the economy, the jobs, support and heal women? We are not allowed to ask for anything or be who we want to be?
@Frankelmind1
@Frankelmind1 6 ай бұрын
Oh please Biden is president stop it
@Doberman_6773
@Doberman_6773 6 ай бұрын
You don't need to go 18 minutes in; Reeves tells men flat-out that they're expected to 'give more than they get' less than 2 minutes in. You're just a resource to be used to make their lives better, nothing more.
@j.davila4523
@j.davila4523 6 ай бұрын
No, welcome to being a man!
@j.davila4523
@j.davila4523 6 ай бұрын
@@Doberman_6773canon fodder for the wars too
@jtl-en4yx
@jtl-en4yx 6 ай бұрын
@@Doberman_6773 They are literally saying we should be a helot class!
@rickmaurer8726
@rickmaurer8726 6 ай бұрын
Rich people lecturing poor people why they are broke and unhappy....
@pa-ikollo1851
@pa-ikollo1851 6 ай бұрын
Yeah duh!, the privileged have always lectured the underprivileged, the rich to the poor, the beautiful to the ugly (in dating). Kinder how men would dictate why women are unhappy (always to do with them having a career or being a feminist lol). Yeah it always happens, #think
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
@18:00, thanks for letting men know you're only going to us them for the benefit of society and women.
@yepyep6916
@yepyep6916 6 ай бұрын
Male issues can be only discussed openly if approved by women.
@jtl-en4yx
@jtl-en4yx 6 ай бұрын
And men who refuse to "give more than they take" to prop up wo men are "not men"!
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
Only in the west.
@damienr3086
@damienr3086 6 ай бұрын
Men GET YOUR PASSPORTS! Women in the West are Unsalvageable. GODSPEED GENTS!
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
I married my wife from Japan, she’s awesome
@MRZE506
@MRZE506 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely I worked my but of for 5 years to be able to have my business remote now I date feminine sweet women down in latin america the west is finish get your passport brother
@rebelforacause2589
@rebelforacause2589 6 ай бұрын
Men made this mess, women can leave men can stay and clean up their mess. The audacity of this comment. Standard operating procedure tho… says all of history
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
@@rebelforacause2589 The blame game is why this is happening, men go where they are valued, have purpose, and can be happy. A lot of western women and society is stripping that away, so we go where we can find that. Zero awareness of the situation
@thepassportog
@thepassportog 6 ай бұрын
@@rebelforacause2589the future if female. The west belongs to you now. Step up. Be a woman.
@dalepetersen1166
@dalepetersen1166 6 ай бұрын
After listening to you people I'm convinced it's every man for himself. I'm not going to give more than I get if I don't have children of my own
@devinsoradx
@devinsoradx 6 ай бұрын
I love how this is supposed to be about young men and boys but I keep hearing black black black what about other races?
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
Yes, 😂 they have to hit all the talking points.
@kurtphilly
@kurtphilly 5 ай бұрын
One of the participants is black, so this shouldn’t seem out of place. You missed general message overall it appears.
@DerekGotega
@DerekGotega 2 ай бұрын
They have to kiss the ring. 2 of the participants are black for optics. The left can barely handle one white male.
@TheLoneComic
@TheLoneComic 6 ай бұрын
I find it hypocritical to discuss male loneliness when denial of affection is one of legacy oral tradition skillsets and one of the many primary manipulation tools of the overwhelmingly hidden overpopulated sub-social toxic feminine culture tradition toolbox.
@Oriental_Express_USA
@Oriental_Express_USA 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@johnadonyedan-jumbo687
@johnadonyedan-jumbo687 6 ай бұрын
everyone talking about boys problem is just an elite stupid person, they should call youn buys themselves and ask them directly
@ricardobarahona3939
@ricardobarahona3939 6 ай бұрын
what?
@SuperPhunThyme100
@SuperPhunThyme100 6 ай бұрын
Men think they're entitled to women affection. That's the problem.
@m.w.njoroge7438
@m.w.njoroge7438 6 ай бұрын
In plain English? It seems like you might be saying (I'm guessing here) that current, male loneliness is the result of denying young men access to their own emotional expression as well as not acknowledging boys who are not athletic, "strong", "manly", "alpha-types". Especially before puberty, boys are just little humans feeling all the feelings that little female humans have. Losing that distinction pushes men down a road of fitting some profile that is not at all who they are. My 2 cents...🤷🏾‍♀️
@Oldmaster51
@Oldmaster51 5 ай бұрын
Maybe we should be hearing what the boys are saying what they perceive their problems are vs someone telling them what their problems are.
@nigel5009
@nigel5009 6 ай бұрын
I believe Stephanie rule genuinely wanted to address the subject. Unfortunately, she had the wrong participants. Gov. Moore and Mr. Strautmanis tried to make this a race issue when black and white boys are both affected. And this was when Gov. Moore wasn't pandering to women. Mr. Reeves was only slightly better. He seem to want to blame men for the problem. In the end, all three men were afraid to offend women. This prevented them from addressing the issue honestly. DR. T Hassan Johnson would have been a more appropriate guest for this discussion.
@UZIMADanceFitness
@UZIMADanceFitness 5 ай бұрын
I keep seeing comments similar to this. I agree this panel did not do well addressing the real issue. But I don't see how offending women would have been necessary to remedy that. Boys need help; they are struggling in ways that are wholly unique. The roots of the issues must be addressed to ensure boys and men aren't disadvantaged so that we can empower women. All that is true and can be addressed without being offensive to anyone.
@nigel5009
@nigel5009 5 ай бұрын
@@UZIMADanceFitness I never said that offending women would remedy the problem. When men advocate for men and boys, there are women who are uncomfortable with this. They feel that for some reason something will be taken away from them by supporting men and boys. Stephanie Rule was aware of this, that explains her comments in the introduction. I believe the male participants on the panel were fully aware of this, which is why they answered the questions the way they did. I mentioned Dr. T Hassan Johnson, because he has been an outspoken advocate for men and boys for years.
@kurtphilly
@kurtphilly 5 ай бұрын
This is the best comment I’ve read so far. Although this topic is incredibly complex unless you draw clear lines of scope and define terms stringently. Otherwise it becomes a conversation about every structural problem of society. If the focus was just on parenting up to puberty age, some value could have come of the conversation.
@Nextclip-d9k
@Nextclip-d9k 6 ай бұрын
The fact that she had to tell the dudes on the side that the point is to not hurt anybodys feelings is so embarassing. People with big fragile egos and snowflakes should read the book anti fragile.
@kilamoblack7532
@kilamoblack7532 6 ай бұрын
This is what walking on eggshells looks like. They are so afraid to address this topic without sounding 'misogynistic' that they never truly get to the root cause of the issue. Having two black feminists on the panel did not help move the discussion forward, as they have even less space to have a provocative discussion.
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
The ideology they subscribe to prevents them from thinking rationally.
@juliusmoore2176
@juliusmoore2176 5 ай бұрын
How are these men feminist??
@kilamoblack7532
@kilamoblack7532 5 ай бұрын
@@juliusmoore2176 Both Richard Reeves and the host were willing to state unflattering facts about the actual gender dynamics that do not benefit young men, but these two men deferred to issues of class or race instead. The way modern feminism operates is such that saying anything remotely negative towards women, even if factually true, is perceived as misogynistic.
@juliusmoore2176
@juliusmoore2176 5 ай бұрын
@@kilamoblack7532 🤔 ok
@UZIMADanceFitness
@UZIMADanceFitness 5 ай бұрын
@@kilamoblack7532 I am inclined to agree as the two Black men did focus less on the issues presented and more on race. But I am genuinely interested in what should or could have been said about women that is true and relevant, but might come off as negative? Would you be willing to give me an example?
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
Didn't take long..... first panelist, guys who are MGTOW are not men.
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
Richard Reeves is a feminist.
@ChrisShin-jb9xq
@ChrisShin-jb9xq 6 ай бұрын
What's mgtow? I genuinely don't know what that means
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
@@ChrisShin-jb9xq Men Going Their Own Way
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
"If you're not supporting, empowering, and encouraging women (IOW, a male Feminist) then you're not really a man."
@erngetsgood
@erngetsgood 4 ай бұрын
Was he wrong though?
@dbuck1964
@dbuck1964 6 ай бұрын
Liberal echo chamber.
@jtl-en4yx
@jtl-en4yx 6 ай бұрын
I can not tell you how disgusted to my core this makes me! The fact that they are trying to demand that men be a servile class and spend their lives serving wo men and the state when both wo men and the state hate us! The fact that they try to use shame to make men comply by saying that men who will not serve wo men are not men when many of those men have been shamed from not being masculine enough their whole life! Well guess what, wo men have shown how much they hate us, and the social contract with them and with the state is broken! Men are done, and we will not be abused and manipulated anymore!
@wjf5839
@wjf5839 6 ай бұрын
@@jtl-en4yx down with the patriarchy!!...oh no, wait....
@kevincarr3213
@kevincarr3213 Ай бұрын
They the left caused it. They told men and boys they are toxic, trash and not needed. Their policies enabled fatherless homes. Men and boys have seen the unfair results and how their fathers, brothers, and other men have been treated in divorce court. They see the leg up the government gave women to get in school and that there are more scholarships for them and how school from elementary to college is geared towards women. Especially college where many get the negative messaging about them re-enforced in women and that they are the enemy. Now they are scratching their heads wondering why.
@TedMyrrh
@TedMyrrh 5 ай бұрын
Masculinity requires male role models and boy peer bonding. You don't learn masculinity by analysis or from women. We need adult men involved especially fathers.
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
fathers are neglectful even when they are married and next to their children
@TedMyrrh
@TedMyrrh 5 ай бұрын
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke that is because society sends the message they are not necessary. And women perpetuate by being overbearing or reinforcing the message they don't need a man. There are manly men still they are rare
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
@@TedMyrrh Stop lying and justifying. Mothers have been more concerned with their children since the beginning of history. Also, many modern men baby trap women and then leave their children. This happened with my friends.
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
@@TedMyrrh Men are very emotional 🤦‍♀️ Even if a group of women say that a man is not important, this is no reason to leave your children
@TedMyrrh
@TedMyrrh 5 ай бұрын
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke please be careful of all or nothing statements implying group gilt. Not all men are the same everyone is an individual and bears responsibility. If you have been victimized by a man forgive, work through the pain and grief and be open to new kinds of men. The wound keeps you stuck if you remain a victim and can't trust again.
@ow5045
@ow5045 6 ай бұрын
All you have to do is give them passports, y'all overcomplicating this situation.
@damienr3086
@damienr3086 6 ай бұрын
facts! they needto join the Passport Bro Movement.
@Jay-ef2ii
@Jay-ef2ii 6 ай бұрын
@@damienr3086 The idea is about them doing and finishing College, attending church and doing community service and help the poor. June 2024. USA
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
@@Jay-ef2ii The first part is the problem, why should boys buy into a system that will ultimately reject them?
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
@@Jay-ef2ii That’s one man’s opinion on the situation, not the entire panel. Meanwhile the panel is full of older, established men who secured their understanding of masculinity before major societal changes like the metoo movement. Their trip of masculinity is like the Iliad to the young boy
@shaymalchione809
@shaymalchione809 6 ай бұрын
Passports aren’t going to change loneliness & depression.
@RealLifeProduct
@RealLifeProduct 6 ай бұрын
Progressive liberal solutions to progressive liberal created problems. These people are ridiculous.
@WeedTacos
@WeedTacos 5 ай бұрын
They all ignore the root cause of every societal problem is neoliberal capitalism.
@stormchaser419
@stormchaser419 6 ай бұрын
Feminism. The great failure of a so called social movement
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
It saved women
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 - It saved men too. From women.
@nkoppa5332
@nkoppa5332 6 ай бұрын
a pretty empty panel, no serious issues were discussed.
@StellaSable4891
@StellaSable4891 6 ай бұрын
Clueless clout chasers. After votes and profits. By the rich and famous and women talking heads talking about an issue That they are part of the problem. Don't bring up any solutions. Cus we are doing such ourselves. Despite the failing systems
@kurtphilly
@kurtphilly 5 ай бұрын
Ok, at least mention what serious issues are in your opinion?
@nkoppa5332
@nkoppa5332 5 ай бұрын
@@kurtphilly hypergamy, inflation, feminism(people’s worldviews as affecting dating), single motherhood, lack of rites of passage, media influence
@kurtphilly
@kurtphilly 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@nkoppa5332are you just listing words? Were you responding to my comment or just in general?
@nkoppa5332
@nkoppa5332 5 ай бұрын
@@kurtphilly I was responding general issues that they missed
@kelvinjames7048
@kelvinjames7048 6 ай бұрын
I would have preferred 3 white men on the panel just leave race out of it. I am not raising my black son to identify his self as black over being a man first. Being black is number 10 out 10 things.
@justthefacts620
@justthefacts620 6 ай бұрын
Being Black is number 10???? You are either white or truly in danger. Blink 3 times if you need us to save you.
@JUSTDON34
@JUSTDON34 6 ай бұрын
yea I wouldn't say 10 things that's a wild statement lol
@elreytriton
@elreytriton 6 ай бұрын
you might have a point if this was africa or the carribbean.
@luisdawnfinder3188
@luisdawnfinder3188 5 ай бұрын
Democrat politician opens his mouth and instantly shifts the conversation towards race
@AyakoTachi
@AyakoTachi 5 ай бұрын
The share of male teachers (and any qualified teachers whatsoever) is going down because teaching straight up sucks. Our school districts are having to recruit teachers from the Philippines and waive basic license requirements to fill jobs.
@kevinpalmerart
@kevinpalmerart 6 ай бұрын
What about the economics of this current situation?
@peterjimenez1075
@peterjimenez1075 6 ай бұрын
Paternity should be federally mandated
@Matthew-pq4sy
@Matthew-pq4sy 6 ай бұрын
Yep! I suspect at least 30% of all births are not from the assumed father
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 4 ай бұрын
Orrrr.... men can just run their own tests
@peterjimenez1075
@peterjimenez1075 4 ай бұрын
@@filmadcamp1512 🤦‍♂️ semantics just make it legal
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 4 ай бұрын
@@peterjimenez1075 What are you talking about. It's already legal for anyone to run DNA tests.
@peterjimenez1075
@peterjimenez1075 4 ай бұрын
@@filmadcamp1512 it’s not back by the Feds and during the course if you find out 510 years into the child’s life that you’re not the father family court will tell you you should’ve found out sooner and you will be paying child support for a kid. That’s not yours what are you talking about?
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
The panel should have been composed of a mix of single and married persons of different ages for a full spectrum discussion.
@blacknerdtalks7921
@blacknerdtalks7921 6 ай бұрын
You've written a lot of comments on this video. What are you thoughts on this panel?
@coryreigns7364
@coryreigns7364 6 ай бұрын
If you are a young man 13 to 39 Get out NOW and never look back
@j.davila4523
@j.davila4523 6 ай бұрын
13-17 ain’t a man lol
@neetea2
@neetea2 6 ай бұрын
Wth is a 13 year old gonna do ?
@katherines144
@katherines144 6 ай бұрын
Get out at 13? You're advocating for boys to run away from home? Weird idea
@frikko2861
@frikko2861 6 ай бұрын
​@@neetea2look over the social situation, mull over it, and plan his future accordingly
@neetea2
@neetea2 6 ай бұрын
@@frikko2861 🤦🏽‍♂️
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
They are afraid that men go rightwing, that's why they have this panel. They would never bring someone from the right on this show.
@realbigmanoncampus
@realbigmanoncampus 6 ай бұрын
Listen to us. Ok. Here goes: Stop the war on fathers. Grant 50-50 custody of children day divorce action is filed irrespective of wife’s allegations.
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
fathers are neglectful even when they are married and next to their children
@realbigmanoncampus
@realbigmanoncampus 5 ай бұрын
@@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke Not really. Predominantly fathers are caring and are deeply interested in the lives of their children.
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
What if most men won't want 50/50? What then? In out of court custody men typically give up custody. They don't want to look after their kids.
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
​@realbigmanoncampus Predominantly they're not .
@realbigmanoncampus
@realbigmanoncampus 5 ай бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Yea well you all feminists have your views and opinions. And us decent men have our own experience in raising our children. So we can just agree to disagree.
@maxpayne232
@maxpayne232 6 ай бұрын
So we're here to talk about boys and men.... ... and all I will talk about is race.
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
He was really digging into the Black girl/women demographic, he is trying for politics.
@maxpayne232
@maxpayne232 6 ай бұрын
@@nodishtoodeep3053 He actually made some very good points afterwards. But it was weird that he made it about race right away especially since the question wasn't about that at all.
@nomansland6376
@nomansland6376 6 ай бұрын
That shows you how trained black people are to think in terms of race. It’s the same system that has boys all f’d up too.
@You-DeserveBetter
@You-DeserveBetter 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I wish he didn’t focus on the race part but I am just glad they are discussing issues facing BOYS/MEN
@nomansland6376
@nomansland6376 6 ай бұрын
@@You-DeserveBetter led by a woman that covertly leads the guys on the panel to give answers she wants. Yeah.. brilliant
@enhancedutility266
@enhancedutility266 5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you have left wing social engineering now you guys don't want to be on the hook for your mess
@Tamar-sz8ox
@Tamar-sz8ox 6 ай бұрын
Boys need their fathers not just their mothers, married or not. Every human needs a mentor , someone who believes in them
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
So men should stop abandoning their children
@pikengren1
@pikengren1 5 ай бұрын
​@@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke Single mothers should also stop raising rapists.
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
@@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke - Point that finger at the women who are having children with no man in her life.
@pikengren1
@pikengren1 5 ай бұрын
Here is the thing. You DO NOT get to spend decades making sure that men understand that no one, especially women, owe us anything. Then act surprised after many decades, that men learn, accept this, and ALSO discover that we do not owe you anything in return for your offer of nothing. Doing the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do can be a powerful thing. But it cannot go on forever without reciprocation. It will take many decades to repair the damage that feminism has done.
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
It will take generations, and that's long past the coming collapse.
@jtl-en4yx
@jtl-en4yx 6 ай бұрын
I love how there is nothing wrong with a boy in the girl's dres sing room, but a straight man refusing to marry women is unacceptable to them!
@erngetsgood
@erngetsgood 4 ай бұрын
Where did you get this info from?
@dannylopez5052
@dannylopez5052 6 ай бұрын
The people running these conferences are more focused on talking than taking action. Loneliness in young boys is a normal part of growing up. Traditionally, cultures had rituals to help boys through tough times, teaching them resilience and life skills. Instead of just discussing the problem, we should bring back or create new supportive traditions. These rituals helped boys feel like they belonged and learned from older generations. In short, we need less talk and more action. By focusing on real support, we can guide young boys through loneliness and help them grow into strong adults. Let's start making a real difference in their lives.
@cheeks2696
@cheeks2696 6 ай бұрын
It starts with talking. No talk, no clear path to definitive action..
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
Let’s say your ideas is a correct one, what trials/rites could we put into modern society for the west?
@dannylopez5052
@dannylopez5052 6 ай бұрын
@@nodishtoodeep3053 As much as it upsets a portion of society. Especially if they're lacking in a culture that has these rites of passages. I would say, teaching a boy to hunt, give him a rifle, and leading up to the rite of passage teach him to handle the gun with responsibility, and to treat life whether human or animal (game) with significance. Teach life is sacred, lastly put him to a test, have him join other males in venture away from society to put him through a several days ordeal. What's lacking are male figures aside from a father, who endows skills to younger males. A mentor. Look up a Hero's Journey, for a broad understanding of what I was trying to allude to.
@jibarabicha4853
@jibarabicha4853 6 ай бұрын
So, no more absentee fathers
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
@@jibarabicha4853 De incentivizes divorce and let the nuclear family happen naturally
@Oldmaster51
@Oldmaster51 5 ай бұрын
It seems that the only people who live in a society made to support them are rich people.
@aminhussein904
@aminhussein904 6 ай бұрын
We don’t want to deal with the financial ruin of divorce, or false allegations of a scornful woman, and have peace and be happy
@frankstudent
@frankstudent 6 ай бұрын
Then don’t.
@aminhussein904
@aminhussein904 6 ай бұрын
@@frankstudent exactly why I’m commenting on a vid on MGTOW. Dudes in the vid want to make being manly “toxic”, and wants them to give of yourself with nothing being given back from society or women. Sounds like a raw deal, and they wonder why men don’t care
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
@@frankstudent - And that's why men are walking away.
@angelmacas1774
@angelmacas1774 6 ай бұрын
And at minute 4:10 becomes about race. I'm out of here!
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 ай бұрын
I think the problem is bullying in many dimensions, class warfare, but alpha males learn or taught to "punk" or bully/dominate younger or weaker males. Same with good looks, or a large family and lots of brothers.
@dbuck1964
@dbuck1964 6 ай бұрын
You sound whiny.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 ай бұрын
@@dbuck1964 You sound like you have nothing better to do in your life.
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
No woman will give birth to this number
@shaymalchione809
@shaymalchione809 6 ай бұрын
We need more strong male leadership in homes & communities.
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
Then no more single mothers.
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
​@@jutsu1it real name is "Absent Fathers"
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
"Problem of boys with boys and we treat like malfunctioning girls", what are you talking about?
@iloveamerica007
@iloveamerica007 6 ай бұрын
Open your mind to understanding as opposed to just hearing. Listen with intent to understand - this requires understanding confirmation bias
@missinterpretation4984
@missinterpretation4984 5 ай бұрын
They’re categorizing responsible behavior as girly.
@c.eb.1216
@c.eb.1216 5 ай бұрын
Men and women need to learn how to be happy on their own before getting married. Just be happy on your own, period. You can't rely on someone else to make you happy. They won't always be able to, and you'll bitterly blame them if you're wholly reliant. Get your house in order first before moving someone else in. And only choose someone who seems content on their own who you just connect with. But don't be selfish and isolate. Try just helping others without expectation, like helping the elderly man up the street carrying groceries. Connect with others and make friends. Enjoy nature. Write and reflect. Shoot the breeze with someone for the heck of it.
@jeffboenig395
@jeffboenig395 3 күн бұрын
As the father of two 20-something young men, I can tell you they are struggling. I've listened to many of Richard Reeves discussions on this topic and he's brilliant. I'm very disappointed that the other two panelists turned it into a race issue about boys and men of color. I don't deny that boys and men of color face some unique challenges, but these issues affect ALL men and boys. Not just those of color.
@gathrightcrystal
@gathrightcrystal 6 ай бұрын
I heard allowing them in women's locker rooms was a trend 😎🥃
@StellaSable4891
@StellaSable4891 6 ай бұрын
Dont treat them like commodity like everything else in US.
@LIQUIDSNAKEz28
@LIQUIDSNAKEz28 4 ай бұрын
This comment section has restored my faith in humanity. 😎
@JUSTDON34
@JUSTDON34 6 ай бұрын
He's talking about African boys coming back and becoming a man dude how can we relate we live in America... western woman are different
@MF_DOOMer
@MF_DOOMer 6 ай бұрын
They are just afraid Men are going Rightwing.
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
The two black guys on the panel only talk about black men. 😂
@TedMyrrh
@TedMyrrh 5 ай бұрын
Stop identity politics and critical race theory. Stop obsessing about gender and race and love and validate everyone as who they are and influence their sense of identity by affirming their uniqueness. Group identity is the problem. It creates a sense of us vs. Them.
@missinterpretation4984
@missinterpretation4984 5 ай бұрын
Can anyone point to a single point that was made that wasn’t a platitude or generic sentence?
@jordanfgfox7237
@jordanfgfox7237 6 ай бұрын
And why are women are not happy about this?You've guys warned it so this is what you get :/
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
We are happy
@jordanfgfox7237
@jordanfgfox7237 5 ай бұрын
@@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke well u are I'm not sure about you're outher sisters
@EricMHowardII-yh1rn
@EricMHowardII-yh1rn 4 ай бұрын
Struggles of Boys and Men regardless of generational age gap . Educational learning process at school Kindergarten to Twelfth Grade and College. Social loneliness . Employment challenges skills do not match job market demands. Personal suicide among men , death of despair. In connection to friendship.
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
It's not any women's responsibility to fix male loneliness. Although we can always suggest they get a cat & box of wine, as that's what men always suggest.
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait til the coming collapse and all of the "strong independent boss babes" lose everything including their rights. It'll be a riot.
@kevincarr3213
@kevincarr3213 Ай бұрын
They helped cause it. Who gave men and boys all the negative messages like they are toxic, trash and not needed?
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 Ай бұрын
@kevincarr3213 No one was sending those messages and women didn't cause it. Have some accountability dude
@kevincarr3213
@kevincarr3213 Ай бұрын
@ You haven't heard that said? They did and have given them that message. I'm not accountable for any of that. Pull your head out dude.
@BigDiscussions76
@BigDiscussions76 6 ай бұрын
As much as the Internet voices are taking criticism, they forced this conversation. Salute to them👏
@azraelfirstofhisname8695
@azraelfirstofhisname8695 6 ай бұрын
Good to see you hear Doctor
@BigDiscussions76
@BigDiscussions76 6 ай бұрын
Hey @@azraelfirstofhisname8695 . Cool bro. This is huge that they're talking about this now. Some of the talking points sound an awful lot like Dr. T. Hasan Johnson's.
@ghost_illmatic
@ghost_illmatic 6 ай бұрын
#escapeVelocity. #IYKYK
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
Andrew Tate, love him or hate him he made these people talk about this. Makes sense why they silenced him.
@ghost_illmatic
@ghost_illmatic 6 ай бұрын
​@jutsu1 before kevin samuels started talking to women about this stuff these talking heads weren't taking this seriously
@shannonsollman3509
@shannonsollman3509 5 ай бұрын
It comes down to parenting and the lack of active fathers in childhood. Parents nowadays, including Dads just keep their kids entertained, but they don't teach them life skills or confidence. Dads need to be more hands on, and sadly you just see them at the bars hanging out.
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 6 ай бұрын
Reform the court system that ials against males
@megasoup_83
@megasoup_83 2 ай бұрын
no way this is a love of the s*n reference
@celinebally
@celinebally 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. This discussion should be repeated nationwide and world wide
@manbearpig9911
@manbearpig9911 6 ай бұрын
simp
@DaleMarasek
@DaleMarasek 6 ай бұрын
Says the Male BASHING FEMINIST
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
They need Andrew Tate on the panel.
@kurtphilly
@kurtphilly 5 ай бұрын
I heard nothing about defining masculinity and how the meaning of the term has changed over time as society has progressed? This starts with not having a predetermined narrative for boys (and girls).
@asocialscientistresponds
@asocialscientistresponds Ай бұрын
I pray to god that everybody on this panel that imply women have a role in this read these comments.
@asocialscientistresponds
@asocialscientistresponds 24 күн бұрын
Also Black men😂😂😂
@akichler
@akichler 5 ай бұрын
The problem is not 2 and 3 year olds being removed from a classroom the problem is 2 and 3 year olds being in a classroom boys or girls they have absolutely no business at that age being in any classroom at all we have outsourced our child rearing to the to the public and the parents of advocated their responsibilities
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
You want an outcry for not enough men choosing to be a teacher, instead of acknowledging men preferring different careers? Are you a teacher?
@Tamar-sz8ox
@Tamar-sz8ox 6 ай бұрын
lm female & work in public schools and men are excellent teachers . We need them Many Teachers actually end up being millionaires by the time they retire ( you can research the stats ) it’s a slow and steady process
@Solcollector1
@Solcollector1 6 ай бұрын
🤣
@blacknerdtalks7921
@blacknerdtalks7921 6 ай бұрын
​@@Tamar-sz8oxthat's not the point, if all things being equal; ending up a millionaire by the time you retire, why are men avoiding these careers? A major one, and I am a social/community worker, is that it's a dangerous mine field as a man. I, personally, was falsely accused by a female colleague who was upset I wouldn't pursue her romantically. Men are seeing and hearing these stories all the time. I Hope this didn't come as an attack, it's not, it's trying to give perspective.🙏🏿
@wjf5839
@wjf5839 6 ай бұрын
@@fliptop157 teachers were primarily men when the pay was good. When salary stalled they went to other fields.
@philipc8280
@philipc8280 25 күн бұрын
You want outcry for not enough women choosing to be in STEM, instead of acknowledging women prefer different careers? Are you an engineer?
@janespitfire9884
@janespitfire9884 6 ай бұрын
Sports and hiking clubs is helpful.Volunteer agencies help too..paint a old building, pick up litter, gardening, car mechanics. online games should be done t minimum,. We need face to face communications and teamwork
@tjbroussard3524
@tjbroussard3524 5 ай бұрын
Im glad they are talking about it. Even using the points that both sides of the aisle could agree on. Although I Don't like subtle jabs at groups who made solutions for themselves. That's disrespectful. Kills the messaging. But I can't help but feel like this is a human thing where they'll finally start saying what their opposition has been saying just so they can control the narrative as opposed to actually do anything about it. Like group one will say I really don't want this thing here because this. And they'll go. This group really wants this thing because that not this.
@joyt458
@joyt458 6 ай бұрын
The title doesn’t fit the conversation at all. good panel planning calls are important
@IsaiahHollins
@IsaiahHollins 6 ай бұрын
Victim mindset 😅 blah blah blah just say looks, money and status. Even married men are in dead bedrooms due to lost of attraction 😅just say looks matter
@fliptop157
@fliptop157 6 ай бұрын
What did the 2- or 3-year-old do to be suspended? if unruly, how do you mesaure that?
@maxoverridemax
@maxoverridemax 6 ай бұрын
Why don't they just talk to the kids?🤔
@kevincarr3213
@kevincarr3213 Ай бұрын
They did. They told them they were trash, toxic, not needed and they aren't part of the future.
@jaredventura4219
@jaredventura4219 6 ай бұрын
A dissapointment
@dkaenterprise219
@dkaenterprise219 6 ай бұрын
It is often said that when you don't know the purpose of a thing; abuse is inevitable! The word of God in Romans 13:1 teaches us that the idea of governmental authority is of God Romans 13:1 Says Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. However, knowing the purpose of governmental authority should make it easier for every soul to be subject to governmental authorities. Romans 13:4 teaches us the purpose for governmental authority which is to minister to you for good... Romans 13:4 Says For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. Matthew 19:17 Says And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. John 1:1 Says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. As we see, the purpose for governmental authority is to minister to us for good, but only God is good and God and His word are one and the same. Therefore, all governmental authorities suppose to be ministering the word of God to us for our good. However, if this is not the case then governmental authorities are ministering evil to its peoples. Study Jesus Christ and you will know how to become a real man. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Says When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
@alejandrocastillo9209
@alejandrocastillo9209 6 ай бұрын
Sounds good. If only the Roman’s hadn’t changed the word of god….
@damienr3086
@damienr3086 6 ай бұрын
@@alejandrocastillo9209 THis is according to research i found online: The Apostle Paul is the author of the Epistle to the Romans (see Romans 1:1). In writing this epistle, Paul used the assistance of a scribe, Tertius, who wrote his own greeting to the Roman Saints near the conclusion of the epistle (see Romans 16:22). Now show me the research that romans changed the word of GOD.
@MiyangChoi
@MiyangChoi 6 ай бұрын
There are people at least one in every American family suffers a paranoia according to a youtuber, bro.
@manbearpig9911
@manbearpig9911 6 ай бұрын
simp
@enhancedutility266
@enhancedutility266 5 ай бұрын
You guys are like 40 years late in the game
@dbuck1964
@dbuck1964 6 ай бұрын
Teach boys how to fish, hunt, and wrestle, and these problems will take care of themselves.
@jvera6403
@jvera6403 6 ай бұрын
The moderator seems uncomfortable ( not relaxed and body language like a twisted pretzel). Glad the one panelist mentioned "MGTOW" (MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY) Movement. --One might conclude that it was/is counterproductive, after all.
@nodishtoodeep3053
@nodishtoodeep3053 6 ай бұрын
These guys are just pushing the narrative and not actually talking about what is causing this on boys. Ya know, actually listening to the grievances that MGTOW is bringing up
@heythatsme5000
@heythatsme5000 6 ай бұрын
Boys? Men
@oaklandsoldier8520
@oaklandsoldier8520 5 ай бұрын
Unless these panels have a Myron Gaines, or Coach Greg Adams on them, i dont take them seriously at all.
@salamiswami5456
@salamiswami5456 6 ай бұрын
MIK-EY MOUSE
@tjbroussard3524
@tjbroussard3524 5 ай бұрын
The middle guy has good points but his framework rejects the actual complaint s of these very men for a caricature or steel man. Then proclaiming the need for alternative (made up) explaination than addres the thing they directly say they have a issue with. He is literally guilty of his own accusations and insults those men.
@gathrightcrystal
@gathrightcrystal 6 ай бұрын
Men can go into the women's locker room but when a woman wants in the men's locker room she is the weird one 😎🥃
@kojoefante
@kojoefante 6 ай бұрын
You must be. Women have always used and use men’s bathrooms.
@thepassportog
@thepassportog 6 ай бұрын
Men don’t care about women in the locker room. The problem is changing the locker room so women are comfortable in it…which stops it from being a locker room in the first place…so men just leave
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
​@@thepassportogleave the planet
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
@@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke - You first.
@StoicContrarian
@StoicContrarian 6 ай бұрын
Bring Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate on the panel; then this would have been very substantive m.
@iloveamerica007
@iloveamerica007 6 ай бұрын
What makes Andrew Tate relevant? Being a woman abuser?
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@elreytriton
@elreytriton 6 ай бұрын
andrew tate is a clown
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
@@elreytriton Tate is a man that speaks the true, he might be a clown to you but he spits facts.
@elreytriton
@elreytriton 6 ай бұрын
@@jutsu1 he's repeating what men have said for years for his own gain. he's not doing it for any real tangible benefit to the majority. And he only got to where he was with the youtube algorithm. MGTOW came out over a decade ago. Tate came up copying other channels right around covid and added trumpism to it. Any video I watched by someone considered in the "manosphere" before that name was even a thing, all had tate over in the recommended videos. He was created by the algorithm. And for the low low price of $50 you can gain access to his "trading group". For $800 a year you can join his "champion" program. And for $8000 you can get direct access to his "war room". He's making over $12 million a month on having guys subscribed to his BS. He's pimping dudes just like he pimped those chicks. I wont knock him getting a bag but he's put a target on the entire community's back. The Feds are watching, literally
@akichler
@akichler 5 ай бұрын
Boys and girls cannot have the same thing they are different and and we are going to have to pick which one we want to be the leaders and which one we want to be the followers it used to be clear for the last 10,000 years but for some reason it's not clear anymore
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke
@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke 5 ай бұрын
The girls should be the leaders
@missinterpretation4984
@missinterpretation4984 5 ай бұрын
This attitude is why boys are failing. We’re humans, we have most things in common. There are differences which are great but mostly we’re both just humans and should treat each other accordingly.
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
@@KhadidjaKhadouj-ur4ke - And all 8 year olds should be handed a 6 pack and the keys to the car.
@salvatorevuicebot6658
@salvatorevuicebot6658 6 ай бұрын
We need Kevin Samuels on this panel...
@oaklandsoldier8520
@oaklandsoldier8520 5 ай бұрын
And Myron Gaines and Coach Greg Adams too
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
What for? He died alone
@salvatorevuicebot6658
@salvatorevuicebot6658 5 ай бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Better than dying miserable with a terrible wife.
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
@@salvatorevuicebot6658 You missed the point
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 - The only point you have is the one on top of your head.
@eriksyring
@eriksyring 6 ай бұрын
22: Toxically/obsoletely masculine comments by Gov. Moore, good that there was immediate pushback.
@davedsilva
@davedsilva 6 ай бұрын
Cost effectiveneAI Girlfriends. Problem solved.
@T4coT2uesday
@T4coT2uesday 6 ай бұрын
Peanut fat peanut fat fat peanut peanut sauce
@michaelalbanese1877
@michaelalbanese1877 6 ай бұрын
Great talk. Respect to Stephanie for hosting this. Richard Reeves talks about these issues in an incredibly constructive and reassuring way. More from him, please.
@manbearpig9911
@manbearpig9911 6 ай бұрын
simp sheep. You are lost
@salvatorevuicebot6658
@salvatorevuicebot6658 6 ай бұрын
Andrew Tate should be on this panel.
@adamrocks529
@adamrocks529 3 ай бұрын
These liberals don't get it.
@foodie2011
@foodie2011 6 ай бұрын
Please 🙏 bring back the 🇺🇸 Presidential Physical #Fitness Test that was in public #schools 🏫 from 1966-2012. #Boys 👦 desperately need to #exercise ⚽️⚾️🥎🏀🏐🏈🏉🎾🥋⛳️daily instead of being forced to sit still and be quiet!
@kayongodavid4033
@kayongodavid4033 6 ай бұрын
Take your kids to church and they learn about Jesus. You won’t have these problems.
@jutsu1
@jutsu1 6 ай бұрын
They have LGBT flags at church now. You might as well join a mosque.
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 5 ай бұрын
They will develop other problems
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
The Christian church in America has been Feminized, so it's not an actual solution.
@rainmanjr2007
@rainmanjr2007 6 ай бұрын
Donate and promote The Human Rights Campaign. I do. They are not just about the alphabet, or the gender, but the Rights of all Humans. That's how we all need to start thinking or we are sunk.
@Oldmaster51
@Oldmaster51 5 ай бұрын
What is a malfunctioning girl? This is ridiculous
@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 5 ай бұрын
Feminists treat little boys as if they are "malfunctioning girls".
@estebandevile2706
@estebandevile2706 6 ай бұрын
🦕🦖☄️
@niguseabrha681
@niguseabrha681 6 ай бұрын
live men alone this the best time for men😂
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