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[@48lilyofthevalley]

I am a recovering Calvinist and I did not even know I was one. God graciously delivered me from it. It is absolute heresy. It is saying that Christ's payment on the cross was not insufficient. Easy believism my foot. It cost Christ everything and the lengths God went through to make it happen! I can spot a Calvinist a mile off. They want nothing to do with the Gospel of John and try and find one who will preach from 1 & 2 Corinthians. They mix up salvation and discipleship and do the same with justification and sanctification. I thank God for this pastor and the few free grace pastors there are out there.

[@itlupe]

Praise God sister.

[@ifollowjesus8656]

Same here.

[@eleanorpomagalski9733]

Agree, but did you mean 'not sufficient', rather than 'not insufficient'?

[@evanangeleno8685]

This brother is spitting the TRUTH. The simple Gospel. Refreshing.

[@Red7Ent]

Evan Angeleno yep. The man centered gospel. The one where humans are responsible for salvation. The one that teaches a weak and powerless god.

[@evanangeleno8685]

@@Red7Ent 100%

[@tractorfone5567]

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believeth on him , should not perish but have ever lasting life. John 3:16. Its a GIFT FROM GOD. THANK YOU GOD!

[@Species-rj9si]

If Calvinism is true, God had no reason to create mankind. It's just that simple.

[@TheJCFan]

If Calvinism were true than that would mean that God is a mean kid with a magnifying glass over an anthill. Doesnt care who lives of dies, just wants to get a good laugh. TOTALLY not the wonderful Father and Savior of the Bible

[@deancamp4914]

Clearly no understanding of the cross.

[@6.0hhh]

@@deancamp4914 they really dont. God created for his glory. Apparently this guy thinks God created for OUR glory.

[@justusxii9237]

Jesus tells us in Luke 13:24"Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." The stait gate leads to the narrow way narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. --Matt.7:14 In Jn. 10:9 "I am the gate. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will come in and go out and find pasture." Jesus tells us He is the gate.

[@wisevirgin3405]

Species.... if Calvinism is not true there was no need for a "Savior" and God had no reason to send Jesus to save (wait for it....) His sheep. .

[@saulgoo2334]

Thank you for speaking the truth with authority brother!

[@danielmp-007]

We don't depart from evil to be saved, but because we are saved.

[@justusxii9237]

Amen

[@cfoles1]

We should depart but we don't have to do be saved.

[@bkahlerventer]

Daniel M P we do not depart from evil because we are saved. We cannot see from the walk of a person if they are saved or not, even if they break the entire law constantly, that cannot affect their salvation. Read the words from Jesus - God himself. Mat 5:17 - 19. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Also Jesus continue to expand on that and raises the bar on it.

[@bkahlerventer]

@macolyis ...keep his commandments aka keep Jesus's (God) commandments... yet calvinists say we are totally depraved, unable to keep the law. Scripture is clear, you cannot always keep doing all the laws. Scripture NEVER says you cannot ever even keep one simple law. Total depravity is still a lie.

[@bkahlerventer]

@macolyis also a believer once he becomes a christian and takes responsibility for his own decisions, starts to grow in his faith and his walk. He starts to realise that he still has freedom of choice, but now he also realise he does not have freedom of outcome. The law Genesis - Deuteronomy lays down the choices and their outcomes. That is how it will stay up to this earth's expiry date...

[@Dubbyx2x]

keep posting new videos!!

[@messianicreformer]

Brilliantly clear. The more I listen, the more I realized Calvinists have been duped!

[@Phill0old]

Cory Abouaf Yep, clearly wrong. The chosen are those who chose? Point 5 ahahahaha

[@jwjbros7926]

@@Phill0old They chose becuase god made them choose before the foundation of the world so it's really not there choice.

[@Phill0old]

@@jwjbros7926 They chose, because God chose. Exactly right. Why you think that isn't a choice I don't know.

[@jwjbros7926]

I"m not sure if your agreeing with me or not but my point was, if god made you do something through force then its not a choice by man.

[@ipaporod]

@@jwjbros7926 :You are 100% correct, if out of 2 options Jehovah God already before hand made the choice HIMSELF for you to select ONLY one of the 2 options then YOU can not but CHOOSE no other option but the ONE irresistibly presented and chosen for you!!!.Even a child could understand it.

[@dougokeefe1048]

This is the best articulation, of what I'm constantly trying to convey, that I've heard to date... Most Christians in my circles think you are either a Calvinist or an Armenian... But both of those camps reject scripture to believe what they believe.

[@justinh4393]

Calvinism is man trying to understand God's salvation through the mind of God. Arminianism is trying to understand God's salvation through man's own mind. From what I've noticed in Calvinism, people seem to have a rather sufficient amount of pride to believe that they can understand God's ways with their own mind. Isaiah 55:8-9 King James Version (KJV) 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Make no mistake about it, trying to understand the mind of God with your own corrupt mind is impossible, and to think that one can do so is sheer pride and arrogance and that is exactly the very thing that they try to do, because they always take you back to the beginning, trying to explain the omniscience of God, trying to explain the very thinking nature and motive of the Lord God. Every single time I see a video from a pastor speaking out against Calvinism, the video has over twice the views as that of other videos from the same pastor. It has, in some cases, quadruple the comments. People become hateful with their comments, the very same people that claim to believe that it does not matter either way, because it is outside of man's own volition whom is to be saved and who will not be saved, and seems to provoke them to perpetuate their beliefs on others with such vehement desire, revealing a much more sinister nature and motive behind this movement. In plainer words, it's got Satan written all over it, and I will never have anything to do with this satanic movement.

[@JORDAN-C]

Excellent teaching.

[@pamelamcglothlen1297]

I grew up majority of my life with the arminiaism false doctrine then fell into calvanism,and got out fast,they are crazy,as of now,I have yet to find a decent church

[@robbycricket6611]

Yes lots of wolf dens out there.

[@jasonkane-qt8qe]

Thank you very much for your preaching and standing up for the truth

[@sp4gsus]

Thank you for calling out piper, sproul and MacArthur (and osteen) for the false teachers they are. Keep contending for the faith brother.

[@Kristianm.marion]

They are heretics

[@Red7Ent]

Just so you know, this guy is flat out lying about the doctrine of election that is taught in Calvinism. He’s constructing a straw man argument and attacking his false version of Calvinism. He’s either lying or he’s extremely mistaken. But given that he claims to understand it fully, I believe he is lying.

[@jimkraft9445]

First John 2:2 and First Timothy 2:4.

[@anduinsuchan356]

@@Red7Ent I haven't watched it yet, but this is an argument I've made against non-Calvinists. Here is my argument with one of their responses. Anyone want to help me respond to him? I don't even understand what he is saying! Me: To say that such a view is necessarily false because of the dichotomy presented (the dichotomy of God's sovereignty against man's free will as two mutually exclusive realities), when in fact the reformed perspective never affirms that dichotomy in the first place, is not a sufficient argument to refute the reformed view. Them: Uh, yes it is. Whether you accept the illogic of your view is irrelevant to its illogic and my rejection of it. Did you have the same view in math class when you worked the problem incorrectly - insisting to the teacher that you were right, regardless of the flaws she found in your work? Do you really want to make that argument?

[@Red7Ent]

Anduin Suchan exactly. It’s so difficult to get that through to people who simply refuse to listen. I have noticed that the Arminian view tends to rely more on personal observation and experience than on Scripture (ie I feel freewill in this way, therefore it must be, so I will insert it into the text). But that’s simply not how we must understand the text.

[@jordanb.4133]

The comparison he gives between the Gospel and Calvinism are a perfect case study in interdenominational confusion. Truly, everything on the left column says exactly what Calvinism says, save perhaps for semantics over #2.

[@paulbryson8002]

If Christ did not die for every man, then why did not one of the 66 inspired writers say so? But on the contrary it says; " by the grace of God, he tasted death for EVERY MAN."

[@MrCooller75]

Praise be to God for beautifull message!!!

[@davemitchell116]

Radio is powerful. I know well. I've been in the Broadcasting industry well over 50 years. This new surge in Calvinism can be directly traced to Sproul, Piper, MacArthur, Begg and others starting up radio programs a few years back. It's been my experience that unfortunately people tend to believe what they hear on the radio whether it is true or not. Sad to say the Body of Christ has been infected through false teaching (e.g. Calvinism) on the airwaves.

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

Very good point. This is precisely why we have our own radio show to pump Scriptural truth back on the airwaves! - BBN Team

[@deancamp4914]

I wonder why the apostles and Jesus believed in God's sovereignty without radio? Oh wait... I know... they read the Scriptures. Truthfully - there's more false doctrine on KZbin than radio.

[@davemitchell116]

So you would prefer we not use technology to propagate the Gospel.

[@deancamp4914]

I can't see a logical case for saying radio = evil but KZbin = good. Technology is a tool - and as such, can be used for either good or evil - depending on the heart of who is using the tool.

[@Phill0old]

Are you a Roman Catholic? If not then you are a Protestant who denies what the Protestants believe and need to fix your thinking. Do you believe what the bible says or not? If you do then you will be reformed, if you prefer your feelings then you will not be reformed.

[@TakeBack316]

Excellent message brother Yankee! Godspeed.

[@stepnbus]

love this man. one of the best gospel teachers I've ever heard. God bless u brother Yankee

[@slantsix6344]

He doesn't understand the gospel.

[@sp4gsus]

Slant Six there is no gospel in Calvinism. Just a badspel.

[@sp4gsus]

The simple gospel is the only gospel.

[@amandagill2250]

Stephen Bussey amen

[@6.0hhh]

He'd never last in a debate with James White

[@YouTubehatesconservativespeech]

Am I the only that believes Calvinism should be considered a cult?

[@julianschmidt4686]

No!

[@lungamakhanya5906]

Nope, I'm with you there, I just met with the "Theological" clash (like less than 3 days ago) and it confused me, therefore dangerous; it shouldn't be taught. I was also in a bible study like 2 weeks ago, going through 1 Peter, and that confusing verse (2:8b) when we were being led by a friend who goes to a bible college; and he told us that that verse meant God has chosen some, and man can't choose cause if he does he chooses sin and not God; and it sounded like nonsense to me and a friend of mine there may have his new faith and knowledge in Christ tainted by theology. So I think that in Bible college they teach Calvinism, cause to me it was very clear that if you believe you in Him and His atonement then ALL get on board this unlimited Ark, and I think if anyone reads the bible (NT especially) for the first time, they too will get the Grace-through-Faith message so obviously and not the election message. I think something must be done in the colleges before all are fed theological nonsense. Christ Saves!!

[@YouTubehatesconservativespeech]

lunga makhanya Amen. I agree with you totally. No one reads the bible and comes to the conclusion of Calvinism...this theology is something that must be taught to you because it is contrary to the scriptures. Just take for instance James 2:1-9 we are told not to be a respective of persons it is a sin, but yet the God of Calvinism is a respective of persons.

[@rickstark85]

Yeah, you're the only one. Considering Calvinists believe that we're saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Maybe do some reading... John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:65 "And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.” Matthew 22:14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.” John 6:36-40 "But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 8:47 "He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.” John 10:26-30 "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. I and My Father are one.” Romans 8:28-30 "And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." Romans 9:14-24 "What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?" Romans 11:2-5 "God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”? But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace." Ephesians 1:3-6 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved." Ephesians 1:11-12 "In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory." Ephesians 2:10 "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." 2 Thessalonians 2:13 "But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." 2 Timothy 1:9 "who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began,"

[@davidjohnzenocollins]

Calvinism seems to be Christianity's version of Islam. They both believe in a God who does whatever He wants for reasons unknowable and even repellent to man.

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

I so needed this! Thank you

[@KISStheSON...]

Yes, I will trust Christ for Heaven! Brilliant decision to keep the WAY to heaven in a bar across the face of this video all the way through!! Nicely done! The Spirit tugged at my heart and I posted my first video today about my concerns regarding this teaching. Unfortunately for me, my favorite cut flower is yellow tulips, now I'll never look at them the same!!! Oh well! God Bless EVERYONE!

[@KISStheSON...]

Actually, I disagree...I had to acknowledge Jesus as my Savior, and not continue to deny him. I did not save myself. God saved me by Grace through faith. He didn't have to save me just because I believed, but thankfully did!!! Romans 10:9-10 King James Version (KJV) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. I will never claim to be one of God's elect! I am one of Those who Were to Believe on him for Everlasting Life! The regeneration doesn't begin until AFTER you believe... The elect already completed their purpose and are most assuredly with Jesus, just as he promised them!

[@jimkraft9445]

Should we change scripture so it agrees with Calvinism? John 3:16 For God so loved a few, that He gave His only begotten Son, that those He has chosen might be saved. Whether they believe or not. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one He has chosen, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for only those He has chosen. John 3:18 Chosen ones can not be condemned, but not those He has not chosen, they are condemned already because He did not chose them. Just because they believe the gospel does not save them because they were not chosen. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that all that are chosen that ye might know ye have eternal life, because God chose you. You can tell a Calvinist, but you can't tell them much.

[@jimkraft9445]

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOEVER, BELIEVETH in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVETH. to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. But only those who believe it are saved. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, (the bad news because we are all sinners) but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. (The good news.) Have you received the free gift of eternal life? It cost Jesus everything, and cost us nothing. It is free.

[@SalvationByGrace]

*I truly believe that the chains of Calvinism and Arminianism can be broken by focusing on the simplicity of the gospel.* 2 Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his *subtilty,* so your minds should be *corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.* *It's the falling away from the simplicity of the gospel that opens the door to both of these false teachings.* God does not have to, in a special way enable someone to believe the gospel. He enabled everyone through the good news of the gospel. He enabled us all by giving us a gospel to believe. *John **12:32* *And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.* *Does God have to in a special way enable someone to believe in/trust in airplanes?* One can simply trust the reliability of an airplane to safely take them to another location. Or they can have doubt and not trust in airplanes and try to go by another way. One can also simply hear the gospel and simply believe it's true and trust in Jesus to take them to heaven. Or if they have doubt they can also not trust in Jesus and try to make it another way. But He Jesus is the only way. *Anything that confuses the simplicity of the gospel is sneaky and subtle false teaching.* Like saying a dead man can't do anything. The gospel is not for dead men! Preachers donot go to cemeteries and preach the gospel! The gospel is for alive men that can simply hear someone share the good news of the gospel and simply believe and be saved. Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? One can simply hear the words spoken by the preacher and either believe it's true or not. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Complicating this simple truth is of the devil. 2 Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his *subtilty,* so your minds should be *corrupted from* the *simplicity that is in Christ.* *The truth regarding the simplicity of the gospel shall truly set you free from Calvinism and Arminianism.*

[@robertrodrigues7319]

I agree fully with you. Wonderful STATEMENT

[@christianhalkides5707]

Amen amen !! Exactly what I think

[@Phill0old]

Salvation By Grace Sadly what you have done is ignored what Jesus taught and replaced it with the very opposite of what he taught. You claimed that God has enabled all to believe with the gospel. But you know that not everyone has heard the gospel and so that cannot be true. You claim that the gospel itself enables a person to believe the gospel. But you know that some who heart the gospel don't believe, do that cannot be true either. Your real claim is that the gospel enables people to choose whether to believe the gospel or not. There are problems with that position. One, the scripture nowhere indicates that the gospel empowers anyone to choose. Two, you are placing the choice of whether to believe in the will, but the bible says we believe with the heart, not the will. Three, you are making salvation a matter of deciding from an impartial point of view whether to be saved or not and the bible says we are not impartial at all. Four, you are claiming that the offer of the gospel is such that even if a person were able to rightly understand it, and understand the consequences of their choice, the offer might not be attractive enough that they wouldn't reject it in favour of death and hell. That makes almost everyone who ever heard the gospel deliberately self destructive. Five, you are flatly contacting Jesus. Jesus taught that nobody can come to him unless the Father brings them to him and that anyone who comes in such a fashion will be saved. The word translated draws in the scripture describes the moving of a passive object by an active agent. So you draw water from a well. The water is passive, it is moved by your activity and is not consulted or required to agree to being drawn. Now if, as you claim, the gospel enables everyone to come why would they still be unable to come unless the Father draws them? If the gospel itself draws them and not the Father, why did Jesus say it was the Father and not the gospel. If you say the gospel is God's drawing them then all would be saved because Jesus said that all who come to him will be saved. I am sorry that you have been misled into thinking that men are saved by an act of believing with their will, whoever told you that was either a liar or just plain wrong in ignorance. You do have a will, and God doesn't act in such a way as to crush your will, but your will would only prevent your salvation not enable it because you will is fallen and corrupt and wicked and enslaved to sin. Every person who has ever heard the gospel decided freely to reject it because to the sinful mind and heart sin is natural and righteousness is impossible. The gospel is that, in spite of our natural rejection and hatred of God and His Gospel, God still saves some of those who hate Him and despise His sin and all the He did. The scriptures tell us that Jesus died for us and saved us while we still his enemies.

[@livingwater7580]

Randall Seiver Does the spelling confuse you or did you understand what the brother wrote, who cares how its spelled its a false belief

[@deancamp4914]

Indeed, Jesus taught the very opposite - "No one knows the Father except the Son - and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." (Luke 10:22). When Jesus chooses to reveal the Father to someone - they know him - 100% of the time. If Jesus chose to reveal the Father to everyone, then we would see 100% worldwide salvation. But we don't.

[@PerrynBecky]

The ones that gave the thumbs down, are the pharisees who love to glory in their own flesh. Sadly they will be among those in Matthew 7:21-23 who trusted their works, only to hear Jesus tell them they are workers of iniquity, and He never knew them. Their trust was in their works, not on Christ.

[@doitlikethebereans1690]

"You don't understand calvinism", says most hardcore calvinists when confronted with the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Excellent message, Pastor Yankee.

[@markrogers7546]

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!

[@gregorylatta8159]

One of the few free grace preachers that actually emphasizes service. That is the biggest area of opportunity for free grace theology. Praise Jesus.

[@yahshuasaves3726]

3. Mathew 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, ’I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ 4. Revelation 14:12 Here is the endurance of the saints, those keeping the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

[@KJBTRUTH]

You are taking verses out of context and not taking in to who the scripture is speaking to. Matthew 7, those people are boasting about their wonderful works. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Matthew 7:22 Revelation 14 can't be talking to any saints now. it's written to saints in Jacob's trouble. It's not the body of Christ's trouble. Romans 3:26-28 to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 4:4-5 KJB Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

[@Meggiebeth19]

Also, why are so many Calvinists arrogant & incapable of reasoning with another believers point of view? They are truly ‘fruit inspectors’ lacking in grace. Condescending bullies more often then not.

[@davealdrich9927]

Thank you, Pastor Arnold, for laying out the simple, Biblical truths that refute this repugnant theology called Calvinism.

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

Dave, thanks for your kind comments. Could you please email me your email address to [e-mail]. Have a question for you. Yankee

[@davealdrich9927]

Certainly. On its way now.

[@justinhenry5772]

Bibleline Broadcast Network (BBN) - Why is Calvinism so Biblical?

[@cfoles1]

@@justinhenry5772 What? He said it wasn't.

[@justinhenry5772]

Cameron Foles - I know. What’s the problem though?

[@alciao3441]

Excellent!

[@gzeineldejordanse4716]

I wonder how many Calvinists see themselves as the non-elect.

[@Phill0old]

How many Americans do you know who think they aren't citizens? I knew I wasn't saved, then I was saved saved and I knew it. That's a problem for you?

[@raymatthews4319]

@@Phill0old Do you have a problem with others confessing that they are saved? Or do you get an enjoyment out of trash talking and ad hominems like most of the Calvinists on social media do? Calvinists love inspecting the fruit of others without looking at their own.

[@Phill0old]

@@raymatthews4319 Jog on with you silliness.

[@OnlytrustinJesus]

Amen Amen AMEN AMEN AMEN GOD BLESS YOU DR RALPH YANKEE ARNOLD FOR SHARING THIS WISDOM WITH US. THANK YOU JESUS

[@CarrieArt7]

I love this preacher, just tells the truth.

[@paul.etedder2439]

Art Lover this preacher is clueless

[@CarrieArt7]

Paul.E Tedder I'm going to guess you're a Calvinist?

[@michaelblanco6665]

Art Lover this was a horrible presentation of what we believe. there are tons of strawmans. also, if he studied any kind of church history be would realize that his position is anti the reformation. shame.

[@paul.etedder2439]

Randall Seiver now you told the truth brother

[@paul.etedder2439]

Digestive The Baptist would not probably exist if it was not for the Catholic Church. Correct the Baptist were not part of the papacy because the Baptist Church did not exist . Until after the Protestant Reformation after Luthers thesis was nailed the the Church's door . It was because of the protest of the Romans Catholic Church . The Reformers held to the Theology of what we call now Reformed Theology. If it was not for Jacob Arminias and His HERESY there would not be any Arminian Baptist Churches.

[@jimkraft9445]

The Southern Baptist Convention is now teaching Calvinism. So many are being led into it. I believe if a person is a believer before they become a Calvinist, they are saved. But those that believe it from the beginning I do not believe are saved. The Gospel. First Corinthians 15:3-4 That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. When we believe that gospel we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30. Galatians 1:7-9 Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let them be accursed. As we said before, so say I again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Believers can no longer be condemned, unbelievers are condemned already be cause they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. John 3:18. Romans 4:5-8 Romans 11:6 Romans 6:23. You can not boast in a free gift. Yankee, you are one of the few defenders of the faith. I love you man. See you in heaven.

[@deancamp4914]

So how exactly does Reformed theology keep a person who trusts in Christ from being saved? Did Paul say to the Philippian jailer, "Believe in Christ and you will be saved - unless of course you believe in the Scriptural teaching of the sovereignty of God - then it doesn't work??" So much for the gospel being, "the power of God for salvation". Your comment makes no sense.

[@jimkraft9445]

Reformed theology is believing a false gospel. That we are chosen by God to be saved. That is where we come up with more false gospels of Lordship salvation. Because if you believe you are chosen, then the only way you know is by your works. But works have nothing to do with the free gift of eternal life which is given to all who trust Jesus as the only way of salvation plus nothing. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 1:16 John 1:12 Romans 4:5 and Romans 11:6. We can only receive the free gift. Calvinism teaches works salvation. That it is grace plus works. Not faith alone in Christ alone without works. First John 2:2 and First Timothy 2:4 God wills that all men believe and be saved, but God has given us a free will to either believe or not. Once we believe we are saved forever. John 3:16 We can only be saved by what Jesus did for us, not by anything we do or do not do. We are not the savior. He is. Matthew 7:21-23 tells about those who trust in their works. They have never done the will of His Father. John 6:40

[@jimkraft9445]

God in His sovereignty has given us a free will. Did God cause Adam and Eve to sin? No, He gave them a free will and they sinned. You can not believe Calvinism and John 3:16. You can not believe Calvinism and First John 2:2. We are not regenerated by the Holy Spirit until we believe the gospel. Calvinist believe they are regenerated by the Holy Spirit before they believe. Ephesians 1:13 .

[@deancamp4914]

So you believe that neither William Tyndale, nor Martin Luther, nor John Calvin, nor John Knox, nor any of the other reformers were Christian? (I can’t roll my eyes enough).

[@jimkraft9445]

I have no idea whether any of them were saved or not. I can not tell what another person believes. If they believed the simplicity of the gospel, that Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures, they were saved. I know what I believe. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son ,and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. That all my sin debt was paid in full, and I can never be condemned again. John 3:18 Romans 4:6-8 That He has imputed His righteousness to me without works. and will no more impute sin to my account. First John 5:13 and John 10:28-29 The gift of God is eternal life, when we believe it. Romans 11:6 AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND I PAID 0. IT IS FREE.

[@20july1944]

The way to debate a Calvinist is to ask about the obvious logical contradictions within Calvinism. -- "Love" is meaningless, -- "hate" has two different meanings (hostility and scorn), -- "dead" has two meanings (deceased and merely in rebellion), -- "guilt/responsibility" is incoherent if there is no free will and God ordains all Everyone is on our own to defend our own beliefs and Bible interpretation, but Calvinism falls apart on its own, even without a specific alternative.

[@markbirchall2060]

Excellent post. Keep them coming.

[@Phill0old]

So where are these obvious logical problems? If you think love only had one meaning then you feel the same way about your favourite colour as you do about God. Would you like to try out your theological kryptonite in an actual believer?

[@Thadeka.]

This is awsome.Love it ty a lot

[@patflan5379]

I go to a Calvinist church; about as close to hyper-Calvinist as you can get but we still give the Gospel. I am not a Calvinist, nor an Arminian. I am a biblicist, which doesn't support either set of doctrines these two camps believe. What I have found is that almost all in both camps cannot articulate what I believe as they have spent most of their life going to a church teaching their particular camp's beliefs and they never heard any other perspective (and I would argue never heard the Bible's perspective, actually). In short as an example of my meaning, I will be told I don't believe in the doctrine of Election (Calvinist doctrinal heresy that God determined, arbitrarily, who would be in the Church and, by default, who wouldn't); when I of course believe in the doctrine of Election, as taught properly by not letting Scripture contradict Scripture which both of these camps absolutely must do in order for their synthesized beliefs to not take on water and drown under their own weight of heresy. For instance, John 3:16 uses "world", but Calvinists, instead of letting this rather straight-forward verse teach that Christ died for all, will say Christ "particularly redeemed" some (the Elect) and use scholarly gymnastics to destroy its meaning as what a normal reader would interpret as "world."

[@jesussaves3949]

“I pray for 👉THEM:👈 I pray 👉NOT👈 for the 👉WORLD👈 BUT for 👉THEM👈which 👉THOU HAST 👉GIVEN Me; for 👉THEY👈 are THINE.” John 17:9

[@heatherh4266]

48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. 49 And the word of the Lord was being spread through the whole region.

[@wisevirgin3405]

For as many as had been APPOINTED believed.... For as many as had been ELECTED believed. Jesus (and the Apostles) clearly taught election by Grace alone. In fact, when His disciples realized that fact.... MANY of His disciples ABANDONED Jesus (because they wanted a "works gospel") --------------- But the Bible teaches that good works (repentance) is the RESULT of regeneration - not the CAUSE of it. ------------ This is theology 101.... how can any "Christian" teach otherwise? (the answer is) because MOST "Christians" are really just unsaved "tares/goats" ------------

[@christophersnedeker2065]

@@wisevirgin3405 so you believe only Calvinists are saved?

[@SonsofIssac]

From a former zealot of the doctrines of grace... if you were predestined to be saved from the foundation of the world, were you ever in danger of hell? If regeneration precedes faith, do you have to believe the gospel in order to be saved? If you were never in danger of hell, and only believed the gospel after you were saved, wouldn't you be saved by election?

[@SonsofIssac]

The Calvinist seems to answer mystery to every question where the answer obviously contradicts scripture... the only mystery is why defend doctrines that are gnostic and contradict the Word

[@oracleoftroy]

something about these questions make me wonder if there is some Part/Whole confusion here, but they are good questions and deserve an answer. > if you were predestined to be saved from the foundation of the world, were you ever in danger of hell? Ultimately? No, God elected you and made your election sure. But that isn't to deny the reality that all are sinners, all have fallen short of God's law, and all deserve justice: the pouring out of God's wrath eternally in hell for our rebellion against him. > If regeneration precedes faith, do you have to believe the gospel in order to be saved? Yes, you have to believe to be saved. Our regeneration is part of what allows us to believe in a saving way, and both our regeneration and our believing is part of salvation. > If you were never in danger of hell, and only believed the gospel after you were saved, wouldn't you be saved by election? Well, you are saved by the person Jesus Christ, via the means of the Cross, through the gift of faith and elected into salvation before the foundations of the world. So yes, as long as we are clear that election is one piece to salvation and not the whole of it, it is fair to say God's election saved us. An analogy: say you told someone you were going to grandma's house by car, and they responded, "Well you are really going there by engine, since without an engine, the car wouldn't move." Well, yes, true enough, but you also need wheels, an exhaust system, ignition, and a host of other things to actually make it by car. So too our salvation has many parts to it, for example: election, the Cross, justification, adoption, regeneration, repentance, faith, belief, baptism, communion, sanctification, obedience, confession, forgiveness, discipline, resurrection, glorification, etc. We can talk about them individually and study what they mean and how they fit together, but we can't take one by itself and say that it is the whole of what salvation is about.

[@mojo7495]

"The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turns it wherever he will." (Prod 21:1) Sleep on that verse for a few nights and maybe it will sink in that Calvinism has a rock solid foundation.

[@tsapp2831]

Billy hoskins well said brotha.

[@tsapp2831]

oracleoftroy the lambs book of life? does not seem to fit your theology.

[@itlupe]

"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise," Eph 1:13 Note: Heard the Word Believed Sealed by the Holy Spirit Calvinists have it backward.

[@deancamp4914]

Best way to debate a Calvinist? First - remove all the references in the Bible to God's election, choosing and man's sinfulness. Once you have whited-out those verses, you are ready to begin. Otherwise he/she might bring the Bible into your debate - and as followers of Jacobus Arminius, we can't have that! Step two - elevate man and stress his "freewill" over and above God's glory and sovereignty. These 2 steps are essential.

[@rayortiz6189]

Scott Campbell xD

[@evanu6579]

Scott Campbell I’d like to discuss Calvinism with you. Let’s look at these passages that you say prove Calvinism. I believe they’re being misused. Hope to hear from you. Take care.

[@TheJCFan]

*Crickets* As expected

[@deancamp4914]

Why don't you begin by looking at the Westminster Confession of faith. Point out where you think it is error and why.

[@TheJCFan]

Jesus was one man. The pharisees were many. Would it have been wise for us to follow the viewpoints of the Pharisees simply because they were greater in number? Think about that one for a while. Pray on it.

[@johnboy76122]

Wow what a message!

[@jonathanlim7091]

I always have a concern these days whenever pastors preach messages of "radical obedience" over the pulpit. I am tempted to ask him/her "suppose I do not exercise radical obedience, what does this prove about me? (a) I have lost my salvation - the arminian view, (b) I am never really saved to begin with - the calvinistic view, (c) I am a disobedient child of God - the free grace view". When the preacher answers (a) or (b), we should do ourselves a favor and just walk out of the service. I don't have a problem when a preacher says that a disobedient Christian risks being called by Jesus as the "least in the Kingdom of God" or a disobedient Christian risks getting "severely disciplined/rebuked by God the Father" but once a preacher starts saying that a disobedient Christian was "never really a Christian to begin with" then we have to say enough is enough!

[@jacobchesney1558]

There has to be a distinction here. There's a difference between habitual, unrepentant sinning as opposed to slipping up or backsliding and then repenting of that. If you habitually sin and refuse to acknowledge that before God, you aren't saved and that's a completely fair judgement. Jesus didn't save us from our sin just so we could crawl back to it. Now, if a Christian simply makes mistakes, but knows that it's wrong and strives for holiness, which is biblical, then it would be wrong to judge them as unsaved. But we have to be honest with what scripture says and distinguish between these two groups carefully.

[@Dispensational_David]

@@jacobchesney1558 No Jacob that is not biblical. If one truly believes in Christ for salvation then they are sealed at that moment and that is final. Jesus does not need man's help to keep us saved. He is faithful even if we do not remain faithful. Obedience will lead to chastisement and loss of fellowship but never a loss of salvation.

[@yahshuasaves3726]

1. Ephesians 2:10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance *as our way of life*. 2. 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord *must turn away from iniquity*.”

[@wtom04]

Calvinism is the epitome of Satanic evil. Check out what the following Calvinist apologists had to say regarding sin and evil: 1) Loraine Boettner - "Even the fall of Adam, and through him the fall of the race, was not by chance or accident, but was so ordained in the secret counsels of God" - In his book, "The Reformed doctrine of Predestination, page 234 2) Jerom Sanchius - "Surely, if God had not willed the fall, He could, and no doubt would, have prevented it; but He did not prevent it: ergo, He willed it. And if He willed it, He certainly decreed it." - In his book, "The Doctrine of Absolute Predestination" page 88. 3) A.W. Pink - "Plainly it was God's will that sin should enter this world, otherwise it would not have entered, for nothing happens save as God has eternally decreed. Moreover, there was more than a bare permission, for God only permits that which He has purposed." In his book, "The Sovereignty of God" page 147, (1961). 4) A.W. Pink - "Not only did His omniscient eye see Adam eating of the forbidden fruit, but He decreed beforehand that he should do so." In his book, "The Sovereignty of God" page 249 5) Edwin Palmer - "It is even Biblical to say that God has foreordained sin. If sin was outside the plan of God, then not a single important affair of life would be ruled by God." In his book, "The 5 Points of Calvinism" page 82 6) William Shedd - "Nothing comes to pass contrary to his desire. Nothing happens by chance. Even moral evil, which He abhors and forbids, occurs "by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God." In his book, "Calvinism: Pure and Mixed, page 37, 1986. 7) J. Gresham Machen - "All things including even the wicked actions of wicked men and devils -- are brought to pass in accordance with God's eternal purpose." In his book, "Christian View of Man, page 46, 1965. 8) William Shedd - "Sin is one of the "whatsoevers" that have "come to pass", all of which are "ordained". In his book, "Calvinism" Pure and Mixed, page 31, 1986 Calvinism makes God the author of sin and evil thereby exonerating Satan and man and is a direct attack on the true nature and character of God. The "God" of Calvinism is not the same God of the Bible.

[@sharonmaclennan890]

Brilliant!

[@oneother7202]

Yeah and they have their own book dont they. They take everything that they believe (a god) could have done and twist into what God did or had to have done because hes God, except He didnt. Im sure God knew it was possible and perhaps probable , but God makes it clear that my thoughts are not Gods thoughts. I think its clear that God allows and disallows many things. He does select certain folks for certain tasks etc, its clear. He also allowed Satan to work on Job within a certain set of boundary and showed how they all have him/it wrong. So God is sovereign plainly. Its very much like the "which came first" the chicken or the egg debate. If we believe the bible then its clear the Chicken came first, and if we dont believe the bible then we write our own books. Also the works based, pre elect mind set likes to say that the simple truth of the Gospel has us thinking its a free open door to sin, yet in their model you cannot help the sin because its not your fault. Its the perfect construct to divert personal responsibility and the share the Gospel. It really is a brilliantly devised mechanism for the perfect deception.

[@slantsix6344]

The only book is the bible and people that think that God is up there with his fingers crossed waiting for us to choose him do not understand salvation.

[@loganross1861]

I’m so stuck on this issue.....it’s killing me.

[@evanu6579]

Logan Ross I think it’s because God’s character is at stake. This doctrine is infiltrating the church and it’s obviously unbiblical. It’s a big deal for many. God bless

[@bobfree1226]

ive been studying this In House debate for quite some time and after leaning calvanist im now just a Christian an try to rightly divide the Word.Bottom line is that calvanism taken to its final conclusion cannot be biblical ,however there are fine calvanistic Christians.

[@built4speed101]

Calvinism teaches the Sovereignty of God and the Inability of man. Is there a problem with this understanding? He absolutely wrong on the subject of evangelism because we are called to preach the Gospel, not to stress on who's saved or not. Christ Jesus Is The Lamb slain BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Before Genesis 1:1, the plan of salvation was already PREDETERMINED! This is what Calvinism teaches...

[@rolfeliason5950]

Thank God for preachers like this one! Remember the picture of Jesus knocking at the door? Rev 3:20? The Calvinist would have to rewrite it: Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If the lucky one behind door #2 hears my voice, I alone will open the door because that's my job, not his. See how against the Gospel Calvinism is? It is not about predestination of a select few, Calvinism is perversion! Jesus enters only upon the invitation of the one on the other side of the door. It is not God that opens the door! A choice has to be made upon hearing God's voice! Calvinism has a BIG problem with the definition of "whosoever", and "any man" which is throughout scripture. I am thrilled 1 Tim 2: 3-4 was brought up. They also forget that "ye" and "you" can be referring to a group, not singular (I have chosen you before the foundations of the world). They also neglect God is outside of time. He created time, matter and space in Genesis 1:1. Omnipresent! With God, there is no before nor after. He calls Himself - I AM. Who chose first is meaningless to an eternal omnipresent God. He foreknew. P.S. I have decided to follow Jesus.

[@Phill0old]

Rolf Eliason Context, context, context. On which door is he knocking? Who is being addressed? Do you think every verse can just be torn out of context as and when you wish? You pervert the meaning by doing that. The message is to the churches, not the world. I know that because it says so in the text. That is what it means to have regard to context.

[@scottcarter1689]

Rolf Eliason In all charity sir, nothing you have written is biblically coherent. It's like you purposely misrepresented scripture... but I don't think you meant to, because you seem sincere, and if this is the case, then this should really cause you to examine your thought process and your ability to even discuss the Bible if that's what you do with anyone. It's truly mind boggling. It's the same thought process that this "Yankee" guy has. And the scariest part of this is the warning that Revelation gives about adding or subtracting to the word because that's precisely what you've done. You've demonstrably taken away the whole context and added your own. So I plead with you. This is not to embarrass you or anything, but you should truly repent from this. And this Yankee guy should be deathly afraid, because the will is fallen and the heart desperately wicked, and it is blinded to its own deceit. Please think and study on these things.

[@scottcarter1689]

Rolf Eliason Christ is knocking on the Laodicean- church's door, so its a call to self examination (the body of Christ)...not an indiscriminate plea to the world.

[@wtom04]

John Calvin falsely taught that God is the author of sin and evil. 1) "Thieves and murderers, and other evildoers, are instruments of divine providence, being employed by the Lord himself to execute judgments which he has resolved to inflict." From Calvin's "Institutes of the Christian Religion" - Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 5. 2) "The devil, and the whole train of the ungodly, are in all directions, held in by the hand of God as with a bridle, so that they can neither conceive any mischief, nor plan what they have conceived, nor how muchsoever they may have planned, move a single finger to perpetrate, unless in so far as he permits, NAY UNLESS IN SO FAR AS HE COMMANDS, THAT THEY ARE NOT ONLY BOUND BY HIS FETTERS BUT ARE EVEN FORCED TO DO HIM SERVICE." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 11. 3) "I admit that in this miserable condition wherein men are now bound, all of Adam's children have FALLEN BY GOD'S WILL." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 4. 4) "The first man fell because the Lord deemed it meet that he should." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter, 23, Paragraph 8.

[@wtom04]

No Calvinism I HATE Calvinism with all my heart! It is indeed the worst heresy devised by Satan and has spread like a malignant cancer in the churches.

[@wtom04]

Josh Peterson If God "decreed" sin, then that makes Him the author of sin and evil thereby exonerating Satan and man. Your Calvinist "God" is a god that does things in an arbitrary and capricious manner and is not the same God of the Bible. The Bible is clear that sin and evil came into existence because of the fall of Lucifer who later became Satan. Lucifer's fall was self -generated with his 5 "I WILLS" declarations. Lucifer was immensely PROUD and had a tremendous ego because of his great beauty and status as an angel of God, but Lucifer wanted to dethrone God. His fall was SELF-GENERATED. Isaiah 14:12-15 - 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Ezekiel 28:13-17 - 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

[@wtom04]

fatarsemonkey God does not do those things in an arbitrary or capricious manner which is what Calvinism teaches. God brings about evil, disaster, and calamity based upon the willful disobedience, wickedness, and unfaithfulness of His people: Jeremiah 5:19 - 19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, WHEREFORE DOETH THE LORD OUR GOD ALL THESE THINGS UNTO US? then shalt thou answer them, Like AS YE HAVE FORSAKEN ME, and SERVED STRANGE GODS in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's. Jeremiah 6:19 - 19 Hear, O earth: behold, I WILL BRING EVIL upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT HEARKENED UNTO MY WORDS, NOR TO MY LAW, BUT REJECTED IT. Jeremiah 11:17 - 17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, HATH PRONOUNCED EVIL AGAINST THEE, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal. Jeremiah 16:10-12 - 10 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, WHEREFORE HATH THE LORD PRONOUNCED ALL THIS GREAT EVIL AGAINST US? OR WHAT IS OUR INIQUITY? OR WHAT IS OUR SIN THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST THE LORD OUR GOD? 11 Then shalt thou say unto them, BECAUSE YOUR FATHERS HAVE FORSAKEN ME, saith the Lord, and HAVE WALKED AFTER OTHER GODS, AND HAVE SERVED THEM, AND HAVE WORSHIPED THEM, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law; 12 And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me:

[@wtom04]

fatarsemonkey Your "theology" is clearly Calvinism and you can't fool me. I was once deceived by Calvinism years ago so I know. The Scriptural passages that you quoted are very commonly used by Calvinists to support their false doctrine.

[@oracleoftroy]

"Author of sin." I really don't understand what this is supposed to mean. Shakespeare authored many sins, including murder, but no one ever arrested him for murder because of his plays. In fact, people praise him for the works he authored. Why wouldn't God be similarly praised for the work he authored? We see an obvious difference between what the Author's characters do and what the Author does and we often condemn a character while praising the author. Why is it different for God? What is that phrase really supposed to imply?

[@michaelroodt9004]

Is it true that Calvin had a man burnt at the stake

[@darinmcdaniel7750]

Michael- Yes he definitely played a part in that. Very telling isn't it?

[@shredhed572]

@@darinmcdaniel7750 Yes, In fact about 8 years later in a letter he wrote that he "exterminated " servetus. That's the word he used. Calvinists try to white wash this by saying it wasn't calvin, but the magistrates who executed Servetus. Calvin himself refutes this claim. Also he exterminated over 50 others.

[@willhaynes3505]

Amazing as always.

[@danielmp-007]

The great apostasy is definitely here. To think that believing and living like the devil is what God wants from his people is a heresy from the pits of HELL!!! A great example of a true Christian is Apostle Paul. He was a murderer and after he believed he became a new creature. He no longer went back to his evil doings.

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

We agree! To say God says we can live like the devil is a heresy from the pits of HELL!!! But we didn't say that. You think that salvation by faith is a license to sin. It's not. Take a look at our channel. We don't advocate sinning. But we do believe a person who has placed their trust in Jesus Christ and His finished work is SAVED FOREVER REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO. That's biblical.

[@amandagill2250]

Bibleline Broadcast Network (BBN) amen brother

[@Red7Ent]

How to debate a Calvinist according to this guy: worship man instead.

[@tsapp2831]

The man Christ JesusFor there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1 Timothy:2:5 Not JOHN CALVIN.

[@ApologeticsBenJoiner]

I love debating Calvinists. They are typically already aware of the relevant issues but simply not talking about it.

[@S4SuperStarSteveSavage]

So will those that go to heaven have free will in the afterlife? I mean free will like it is assumed we have now.

[@ApologeticsBenJoiner]

I guess the question is whether those in heaven will be able to do evil. It does not seem like heaven if they can. But if they cannot, then it does seem like they do not have free will. So if God can override their free will in heaven, then why not now. There are a few problems with this reasoning, assuming that it is your point. 1)The issue is that if humans do not have free will in this life, then God is the cause of all the evil things that they do. Why worship such a being? 2)Humans are in heaven because they choose to be there. So if the freedom to choose to be evil is removed, it is removed by the free choice of the people from whom it is taken. Therefore it would not be a taking away of free will. Rather it would be the fulfilment of a choice that is freely made.

[@S4SuperStarSteveSavage]

Ben Joiner I mostly agree with you but then I have to wonder about predisposition. For example Satan/ Lucifer rebelled against God in the arena of heaven. Where did the desire or predisposition to rebel come from if at least the potentiality didn't come from God? It would seem that "evil" sponded itself without God's will and beyond his omniscient. Why couldn't it happen again? Which you bring up a good point about choice but one topic at a time ...

[@ApologeticsBenJoiner]

I would say that if someone is truly free then that person is the first cause of his or her choices. But that person does not have the authority to cause anything at all. The freedom is within limitations.

[@S4SuperStarSteveSavage]

Ben Joiner But can I make a true choices without knowledge? Our free will is a blind free will. What good is that... useless. This still does not address the question where "evil" came from if not from God.

[@sharonmaclennan890]

God gives man free will, such it was with Adam and Eve. But the Calvinist believes that God precluded free will for the Calvinists and saved them without their having a choice, which is a preclusion and therefore a nullification of free will. God does not force man. God does not want puppets or robots but free individuals capable of making up their own minds.

[@ХристоР]

Where is that in the Bible

[@sharonmaclennan890]

To X, In Genesis, God commands Adam and Eve but they use their free will to justify their contrary actions just as Cain used his free will to destroy his brother Able. So, although it is not expressly declared as free will it is implicit in their actions against God's will. The bible is full of such examples from Noah's contemporaries intransigence to Pharaoh's stubbornness in Egypt with the plagues. It is the same today when some choose to follow Jesus and others choose to believe in scientifically unsupportable constructs. Man continually seeks special status and special requirements for salvation when belief in Jesus' sacrifice for us all for all time is all that is needed. Special requirements by men's altruistic actions on earth besmirch and negate the comprehensive totality of Jesus'' substitution in death for mankind. Look up bible verses about "free will" on Google for example.

[@ХристоР]

So the cross is not foolishness, then? What determines if it is foolishness to me or not? My reason? My inclination to good? My common sense? Me being humble?

[@ХристоР]

Romans 8 says the carnal mind is enmity to God and the Spiritual mind (as is of the Spirit of God) is life and peace. It would seem to me that the Spirit has brought life and peace and not the carnal mind of itself. Can the old Adam conceive (both as in his mind and give birth to) the new Adam in us?

[@sharonmaclennan890]

To X, The only thing we have to determine the truth is our ability to use deductive reasoning. God gave us a brain that we can use to try to cut though the obfuscation to that "truth". In modern times it is very difficult even in cloistered circles to avoid being gently removed from the path towards "good" works by man. This video is an example of how Calvinistic over-intellectualizing can cause a major diversion from the path. Attempts by many schools and councils over many centuries have yielded success in maintaining the integrity of the bible. In the end, you have nothing to lose by embracing the salvation offered except perhaps the pride of not being the author of your own current and future existence. Being humble is paramount to leading a Christian life.

[@6tamale]

Perseverance of the Saints; Also known as Once Saved, Always Saved. Calvinist believe that you cannot lose your salvation. It is God who preserves us, not ourselves.

[@MrHowdeedodee]

I have read the scriptures ever since I was a small boy, and I came to the conclusions that I did by reading those scriptures.I had never of John Calvin before I came to the conclusions that I did after lots of study. Apparently John Calvin and I came to the same conclusions by reading the same scriptures. I was not taught that way, I arrived there by a comprehensive study of scriptures. In my opinion, what this man teaches in this video, and what appears to be prevalent in most of today's churches, is nothing more then self righteousness. In Ephesians, you are saved by Grace. (That means unmerited favor bestowed upon you,) through Faith, and that not of yourself, it is a gift from God. That Grace is actually all of the things needed to get you to hear the Gospel, and all of the things you need to understand the Gospel. In God's Elect, hearing of the Gospel, automatically brings about believing it. The scriptures say the elect were predestined to be in Christ Jesus before the foundations of the world. In order for what this man teaches to be true, there would have to be a level playing field for all of humanity. There is not. Common sense, will tell you that a person born in the middle of a country that is completely controlled by the Muslim religion, will not have even a small chance of hearing the Gospel in comparison to a preacher's son in the middle of the Bible belt in the USA. A huge number of people lived and died in the jungles of Africa before the missionaries came with the good news. Those people did not get a chance to make any kind of decision concerning faith in Jesus, because they never even heard of him. How does one even consider a level playing field, when there are Crack babies being born in the ghettos of our big cities who are not only debilitated in their thinking capabilities by being born into addiction, but their parents would not let them get anywhere near a church. Many of them live and die without any knowledge of the Gospel at all. You do not get to pick any part of your abilities, your parents, your country, or your chance to hear the Gospel. All of those things are in the hands of God Almighty, and that is why Salvation is according to election by him, and him alone.

[@darinmcdaniel7750]

Yep you just stumbled into Calvinism with no help from anyone but God and His word! Heard that one before! Level playing field....crack baby....muslims....none of them have a chance to hear the gospel? So your studies have led you to a place now where with these poor souls whom you say never had a chance were just born to suffer and God never intended them to have a chance, and well that is the election and sovereignty of God? You are completely out of your mind. You sir have a problem deep rooted in your heart with God. You tried to wrestle with these people not having a chance for many years I am sure. You probably had a crisis of faith over it for a time. But through your diligent study of "Gods" word, you came to a place where you finally figured out that God just chose that life for them and, well, you can't second guess God so now you have settled into your calvinism. So sad crack baby, muslim, non PK children, you have no choice but praise God for you predicament. Your problem is that you do not trust God, you do not believe God, and you make Him out to be the God that you think He needs to be in order to fit into your mind, you know with all the crack babies and muslims. The God I serve, loves every human being and wants none of them to perish. Anyone that diligently seeks Him shall find Him as the bible states. All of His creation points to His wonder and power. If one man or women ever truly wanted to know Him in their heart, God was, is and will be faithful to reveal Himself to them. No straw man, faceless crack baby will ever change that. Question: Do you know one crack baby or muslim or non PK child that never heard the Gospel that wanted to know the truth but died before they had a chance to hear it? Quit worrying about millions of people that you do not know, never will know, and worry only about those that God puts you in contact with to share the Gospel. If you are unsure what to tell them, try this: God loves you. He desires to walk with you and fellowship with you. The God of Creation, the One that made the heavens and the earth, sent His Son to die on the cross for your sins and mine. He paid the price that was due for each of our sins. This payment was in full and never has to be paid again. This same Son whom God sent, was crucified, was buried in a tomb, and was raised from the tomb 3 days later defeating death and proving that He was exactly who He said He was: The son of God, The Messiah. God incarnate. He left His kingdom to show His love for you, and would have done it even if you were the only one on the planet. God says that His will for you is to believe that He did this for you. That He paid the price for you. God makes tons of promises for those that will put their trust in Christ. He will raise them and will raise you from the dead. He will wipe away every tear from your face. He will be with you for all eternity. He will give you a glorified body that will be free from sin and pain and death. He will give you a new name. Will you trust in Christ for your salvation and believe that He paid for you sins?

[@starsthedog]

@@darinmcdaniel7750 wow bro. Thank you, that was some response!

[@raymatthews4319]

The reason for sin in the world is because of the sin of Adam. We have all inherited that sin nature as a result. God certainly did not make Adam commit sin, he could have easily obeyed God's command. There will always be sin in the world until Jesus returns.

[@MrHowdeedodee]

@@raymatthews4319 Please remember that Adam and Eve did not know good from evil until after they ate the fruit. Until then they could only guess at who was telling them the truth, and make up their own minds accordingly.

[@kimberleerivera3334]

If you read the Scriptures since being a small boy - and you came to the same conclusions as a Calvinist - then you are wrong in your man mind just as they are. You must have not understood grammar correctly. You have not yet BELIEVED the TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. Surely you have read the Scriptures that say JESUS CHRIST went to preach the GOSPEL to those who died before the CROSS. (1st Peter 3:19-20-)) By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; (20) who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. Don't rely on "your" own understanding - or that of "Calvinism." Those who died without hearing the GOSPEL (because of the failure of "men") GOD will not be mocked --- and everyone will hear the TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST - and will BELIEVE it or not --- but it WILL BE "THEIR" CHOICE. Now I suggest you forget about Calvinism - and GO DIRECTLY TO GOD - and ask GOD to please allow you to understand the TRUE GOSPEL OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON CHRIST JESUS.

[@Red7Ent]

Dude, you despise it because you either don’t understand it or you prefer to worship your own will and power.

[@KingjamesAV1611]

....no he understands Calvinism just fine, its just that terrible of a system.

[@deancamp4914]

More straw man arguments by the time 3 minutes are up. Please study what the other side truly believes before you misrepresent them. If you do know what they believe, but are intentionally misrepresenting it, that's even worse! Believers in election do not believe, "you have to persevere to the end". They believe God keeps his people to the end. There's a big difference. Jude 1 - "To those who are called, beloved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ". Jude 24 - "Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless." Phil 1:6 - "he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ". John 10:29 - "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand."

[@johndisalvo6283]

Then why did Sproul have serious doubts about his salvation?

[@deancamp4914]

Doubting your salvation is not the same as losing it. Scripture calls us to "examine yourself to see whether you are in the faith" - but never to see if you are "still in" or if you've "lost it". There's a reason it's called "eternal" life. A salvation that lasted 2 weeks could hardly be called "eternal life".

[@johndisalvo6283]

I was saved in 1981 and have never doubted my salvation. I have felt His discipline and chastisement which only proves I'm His. The parable of the sower is what you're sarcastically describing in your "2 week" conversion. I know life long calvinists that have studied Scripture for more than 40 years that ended up in mental hospitals and suicidal over the false teachings of calvin. Especially Romans 9. One was a pastor and a good friend of mine, and prison minister now in his 60's, who loves Jesus with all his heart. It would make you cry to see what the devil did to him through the false teachings of calvin. Not being sure he was one of the elect! The Lord broke the calvinist spell on him and miraculously healed him in one night. Hundreds of people were praying for him for over 10 years! This is some of the "fruit" of calvinism. Just like Spurgeon battled his satanic oppression and depression. And Sproul wasn't "just examining himself to see if he was of the faith". He himself speaks of some serious doubts that he was one of the elect! BIG difference. You people remind me of a Jehovah's Witness claiming to be one of the 144,000! Get over your gnostic selves while it is still day.

[@deancamp4914]

Your lack of charity and judgmentalism appears to be the fruit of ? The Spirit? Not likely. As for your friend, mental illness knows no theological boundaries. For you to blame your friend's mental problems on Calvin is laughable. And I suppose that Mormonism causes Parkinson's?

[@johndisalvo6283]

I practice "lack of charity and judgmentalism "on heresy and false teaching all the time. I apologize for insulting you personally. My friend "blamed his mental problems on calvinism", I didn't, and it is anything but LAUGHABLE! Mormonism may or may not cause Parkinson's, but it DOES cause a very long Christless eternity. God bless!

[@dvancino1471]

By definition isn't it accurate then to consider Calvanism a cult ?

[@wtom04]

John Calvin's false teaching on "predestination" is identical to Augustine's false teaching on "predestination". Calvin's idol was Augustine and emulated him heavily and obsessively. 1) ....."salvation is freely offered to some while others are barred from access to it." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion - Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5. 2) "We call predestination God's eternal decree, by which he compacted with himself what he willed to become of each man. For all are not created in equal condition; rather, ETERNAL LIFE IS FORE-ORDAINED FOR SOME, ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR OTHERS." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion - Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5. 3) ..."we say that God once established by his eternal and unchangeable plan those whom he long before determined once for all to receive into SALVATION, and those whom, on the other hand, he would devote to DESTRUCTION...he has barred the door of life to those whom he has given over to damnation." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 7. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That owing to one man all pass into condemnation who are born of Adam unless they are born again in Christ, even as He has appointed them to be regenerated, before they die in the body, whom He PREDESTINATED TO EVERLASTING LIFE, as the most merciful bestower of grace; while to those whom He HAS PREDESTINATED TO ETERNAL DEATH, He is also the most righteous awarder of punishment not only on account of the sins which they add in the indulgence of their own will, but also because of their original sin, even if, as in the case of infants, they add nothing thereto. Now this is my definite view on that question, so that the hidden things of God may keep their secret, without impairing my own faith. - Augustine, City of God, On the Soul and its Origin, 4.16.

[@michaelblanco6665]

This is the worst sermon against calvinism that I’ve ever heard. And anyone whose praising this gentleman for it is demonstrating they don’t understand reformed theology either.

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

Perhaps if you took your tulip your logical conclusion on every point you might see what everybody else can see don’t think we’re blind just because you can’t see why we don’t believe it it may not occur to you that we might be right I do not believe in Calvinism so take each point of Calvinism and prove that it doesn’t say what I say isn’t it true that you believe that God has predetermined before the foundations of the world who he’s going to save and not save do you not also believe that salvation is by grace and that it is by gods grace alone and that man does not have the faith to believe so God hast to give it to him do not you believe that Christ only paid for the sins of those that the father loved from the beginning and call them his elect don’t you believe that Every true believer will persevere in the faith and that if he doesn’t and only proves that he was never saved to start with Now, tell me which one of these statements that I made a Calvinist does not really believe go for it Yankee

[@onedone7988]

Says the person who's got triple 6s in his screen name 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kevinjodrey7664]

​@@YankeeArnoldMinistriesyou do not understand the doctrine of the Perserverance of the Saints even a little!!!

[@manseth3]

Apparently this guy has never debated a Calvinist. Because he would get destroyed. He does not have a clue what they actually believe.

[@deancamp4914]

If you read the comments here - you'll notice the same thing about his followers.

[@max41050]

He Lives. You sound like a Jehovah's witnesses.

[@manseth3]

awake and alive apparently you are clueless to what a jehovah's witness believes, because I sound nothing like one.

[@deancamp4914]

How could you possibly conclude someone sounded like a JW from 3 sentences?

[@doitlikethebereans1690]

@@deancamp4914 we follow Jesus Christ and Scripture. Not man. Your comment seems to indicate you follow doctrines of man...calvinism...you're a CALVINist. You angry calvinists always claim we dont understand calvinism when Scripture rips your damanable doctrine apart.

[@sharon5081]

Amen!

[@blahfah]

i would love to debate this guy. seems like he loves christ, but his approach to how to "deal with a calvinist" is incredibly flawed and disrespectful. there is no exegesis of the text from this man.

[@evanu6579]

Carly Van Beekum Let's look at John 6:44 together. I don't think it's the proof text for Calvinism that some think it is.

[@rickstark85]

Evan U we can look at that or Romans 9 or any of the hundreds of proof texts...where you at, bud?

[@livingwater7580]

Randall Seiver study Ephesians the elect is christ, he is foreknown," IN" Christ or IN him you become foreknown, I was a calvinist and its a false doctrine and John Calvin was a bad man, calvinism is boasting and its not of God Its of John Calvin

[@livingwater7580]

calvinism is of the DEVIL

[@deancamp4914]

So you think after a study of Eph 1:3-5 that Paul wrote the letter to Jesus - and not to the church at Ephesus? That's interesting, because he says he is writing to "To the saints who are in Ephesus" - and then says that these saints are those whom God, "chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ." You would have to do major scriptural backflips to turn every mention of the elect always into Jesus. For example, in Romans, Paul says, "Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies." If Jesus is the elect - what sins did he need to be justified from? In Titus, Paul says he is an, "apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God's elect and their knowledge of the truth". How is Paul an apostle for the sake of Jesus's faith? Obviously, Paul is saying he is an apostle for the sake of the church.

[@livingwater7580]

there is no verse that a calvinist can show me that he personally is one of the elect because there is no verse, Jesus is the elect and chosen and whoever is "IN CHRIST, "IN HIM" "IN THE BELOVED" BECOMES FOREKNOWN AND CHOSEN, PREDESTINED AND ELECT. GOD BLESS FORMER CALVINIST SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH. IN LOVING SPIRIT

[@wisevirgin3405]

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. Many are "called" with the Gospel But FEW are "chosen" to be saved ---------- Repentance is the RESULT of regeneration... not the CAUSE of it. -----------

[@deancamp4914]

Sadly, it seems most of BBN's KZbin videos are focused on being anti-Reformed theology. Whenever the primary purpose of something is to be "anti", I've never seen it have a positive impact on the church. Try being "for" something.

[@johna6838]

Anti reformed theology, is PRO gospel. It is FOR the true gospel. What are you even saying lol?

[@deancamp4914]

@@johna6838 No.. it's just anti for the sake of anti.

[@garyschlee8401]

Read your bibles brothers and sisters. Prayerfully read it, asking for truth, and God will teach you.

[@joecatadjuster]

Another sad example of mans tradition. No exegesis whatsoever.

[@TBaggins96]

That's because Calvinism is the inevitable outcome of exegesis and he knows that.

[@evanu6579]

Tyler Bagwell What good biblical exegesis proves Calvinism?

[@michaelblanco6665]

Joe Smith Spurgeon called Calvinism the Gospel and the correct way to interpret scripture. 😂 I love Spurgeon.

[@lungamakhanya5906]

Don't "love" theologians, they did not DIE for YOU, "love" Jesus, the Lamb of God that SAVES ALL!

[@rickstark85]

Evan U hahahaha...bro, read Romans 9. Come back and exegete it. I'll wait.

[@deancamp4914]

"..in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice".

[@DustballlBandit]

Wow.... someone truly doesn’t understand Calvinism.... Sir, please don’t speak on topics you don’t understand 100%. So much misrepresentation here.

[@deancamp4914]

Precisely - more strawmen than the Wizard of Oz.

[@jesussaves3949]

"Faith Without Works is Dead"

[@KJBTRUTH]

Look who James is written to. 12 tribes scattered aboud. The body of Christ is not one of the 12 tribes of Israel. James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. James 1:1 KJB

[@GracieDontPlayDat]

James wasn’t originally in the canon, but we aren’t allowed to discuss history since The Chicago Statement on Inerrancy, which many Calvinists with Masonic families signed. Up for discussion in my book, since most works-based religions rely heavily on James, or a misinterpretation of it.

[@rms-vp6hf]

A little bit of Biblical exegesis would help. But then again, if you had you’d agree with most of Calvin’s exegesis.

[@evanu6579]

rms 5194 Calvinists don’t exegete any of the passages they use. Or am I missing something!

[@raysawyer5681]

I disagreed with election because when I heard it explained by Calvinist there simply was no connection from there perspective in scripture . My question is when God draws you before you are saved to come to Him is this the same as being elect. It seems that He does make a choice to do so. Yet I'm not sure. Gal 2:16 Is where is says we wait to be justified by Christ. Is this our election being done while being justified. Could you please show where in scripture we are elected? Ray

[@josephgoudreau7425]

No one has a free will, you either do Gods will or the Devils will, there is no 3rd option.

[@markbirchall2060]

Did Adam and Eve have free will?

[@lindapreston3533]

😂

[@rayortiz6189]

yes, they freely chose to obey satan over God thus bringing sin, and with it (spiritual) death into the world.

[@WujekObamy]

Joseph Goudreau but you have a free choice who do you want to serve

[@doitlikethebereans1690]

The Bible is chock full of examples of man's free will. You'll see it when you CHOOSE to seek the truth!

[@heatherh4266]

As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." Romans 9:13 ESV Whether we like it or not, God did display great love to Jacob and God was angry with Esau. But the next question is “Why?” His grace.

[@KingjamesAV1611]

....how about look to the scripture to see why God rejected Esau. "Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears." Hebrews 12:16‭-‬17 KJV This is why! Calvinism is garbage

[@joecatadjuster]

Straw man is an understatement! It's such a bad presentation.

[@ipaporod]

:The same straw man approach Calvinists like to use on NON Calvinists.I know how you must be feeling right now.

[@classact9557]

Oh and by the way, the word "world" in both 1 John 2:2 and John 3:16 in New Testament Greek is called "kosmos". It has several different definitions and is where we derive the word "cosmos" talking about the stars and planets. The definition of "kosmos" that is used in both verses is to describe the "ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ." This definition alone destroys the concept of Limited Atonement as described in the acronym T.U.L.I.P. Christ died on the cross for EVERYONE ON PLANET EARTH. Every man, woman, and child without exception. Period. End of story. Any doctrine that denies this is false, and should be avoided like the plague.

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

Thank you and God bless, Yankee

[@johndennis5182]

Jesus said the reason you don't believe, is BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT MY SHEEP, My sheep hear my voice and follow me...Paul said in Ephesians, ch 1- He Chose you before the foundation of the world, that we would be Holy and blameless before Him.this guy does not understand God word, he does not understand exegesis theology. HE IS WRONG!!!!! and he does not understand Reform theology. He does not know what he is talking about.

[@tinabailey3170]

john dennis Perry Stone explained that passage excellently , he was talking about the 12 choosen apostles

[@tsapp2831]

john dennis and the book of life fits into the philosophy of Calvinism how? Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Colossians:2:8

[@evanu6579]

john dennis I believe you're misunderstanding these passages.

[@heatherh4266]

Romans 8:28-29 God does not know all things now? and who will be saved? He chose us before the foundation of world. Foreknow. Not a reference simlpy to God omniscience that internity past he knew who would come to Christ? For me predetermined choice to set His love on me and others and to establish a relationship for his elect.Acts 2:23 pre/ determination and foreknowledge. He marked out appointed or determine beforehand those who would be saved.He destines for his choosen end that is likeness to his Son Eph 1:4,5 11,For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Romans 1:20 ESV Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. 1 Peter 1:1‭-‬2 ESV Did God plan Christ to die beforehand? He also plan His elect.Foreknowledge means God planned before, not that he observed before hand And the Lord said to Moses, "This very thing that you have spoken I will do, for you have found favor in my sight, and I know you by name." Exodus 33:17 ESV Its all about His Grace through Faith.Salvation is all about Christ. Romans 9. though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls- she was told, "The older will serve the younger." As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?" But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- Romans 9:11‭-‬23 ESV Theres that word beforehand again your debating what Scriptures teaches. Sovereign work of God he gets all the glory.will have a listen to this pastor. Mike

[@shredhed572]

Conformed to the likeness of Christ isn't salvation. Those ordained to eternal life. Well, I invite anyone to look up the verb in the underlying text translated ordained. It means prepared beforehand. But the tense of the verb is that these people prepared themselves-not God. They had heard paul the sabbath before. They urged him to come and teach again the following sabbath In the interim they had decided to accept Christ. This verse doesn't mean elected by God. In romans 9 Fitted to destruction. Same thing with fitted. They fitted themselves for destruction. The entire chapter in Romans 9 is to the Jews, not gentiles. There isn't anything in the chapter that represents calvinism. Don't take my word for it Look those verbs up yourselves

[@DavidJohnson-nn2jc]

Hahahahahahahahaha oh man surely this isn't for real... He would be decimated by any Calvinist worth his salt.

[@johndisalvo6283]

I've never met a calvinist worth ANY salt. How bout you there Davey? Heresy is measured in SALT RATIONS?

[@deancamp4914]

If you have trouble understanding figures of speech - then Scripture will be difficult for you.

[@Red7Ent]

UFCNUTTA that isn’t very loving. Attacking someone’s profile picture.

[@Red7Ent]

J Pep prove it with the Bible.

[@Red7Ent]

john disalvo Calvinism is historical orthodoxy. That is literally the antithesis of heresy. I think maybe you don’t know what heresy actually means.

[@slantsix6344]

If it is up to a man to choose God for salvation, how would that be just to those that do not have sense enough to make that choice? People with mental defects, retardation and people born with extremely low IQ? If you choose God, what makes you different from all of the rest of the Human race that doesn't? Is it your superior intellect? Salvation is not an intellectual assent. Plenty of smart people die atheists. The bible is clear that salvation is God's plan and totally of him lest anyone should boast. The fact is that the Lord does the saving and deserves all the glory. He isn't up there with his fingers crossed hoping you will choose him. The bible is clear he is the author and finisher of our faith. Jesus draws we sinners to him and saves us. We respond to that drawing in faith. It looks like we prayed the prayer or walked the aisle when it was Jesus drawing us to himself all along. His chosen or elect will respond to his call.

[@markbirchall2060]

God is not willing that ANY should perish.

[@brianc81]

@@markbirchall2060 then NONE will perish

[@tjhoss6729]

If you're going to try to make a point against a position, It would be a grand idea if you 1st understood the position!! Be as it may you don't!!! Because you have a humanistic way of looking at God. As though God's going to leave salvation up to the free will of fallen creatures made from dirt!!!!!! You're humanistic characteristics are demonstration your elevating man and de elevating God!!!! Does the Potter not have the right to make one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use???? As well as...Jacob I loved but Esau I hated!!! I know, I know, the Lord would never make anyone or anything for evil or create anything for destruction.... Proverb 16:4. The LORD has made everything for (HIS OWN PURPOSE) even the wicked for the day of evil!!!! If you don't like what God's words SAYS, you can, Like false religions and cult use a sharpee......

[@stratcat79usa]

I haven't read any commentary on this topic, including John Calvin. I believe what I believe because it is what the Bible teaches, and my sources are strictly from the Bible. The old KJV translation, not these watered-down new interpretations. "7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" - Matthew 18:7 The offenses are sins of man. They must be, in order to serve God's purpose, but God is just; therefore, woe unto the offenders. God created corruptible beings, though the beings corrupted themselves, as we do now. The Lamb was slain for His chosen from the foundation of the world. (Revelation 13:8 and 17:8). That is clearly predestination. It is Scripture, not Calvin.

[@randym.7238]

The Scofield Bible was written by a Man who believed in the Reformed Doctrine ie Calvinism. The Scofield Bible that this Preacher is studying from proves the very Doctrine that he denies. He is contradicting Himself and doesn't know it. We Calvinist do preach the Gospel of Christ to every one because it is the Power of God unto Salvation. We believe that all who believe in Christ and believe that God raised him from the Dead, Will be Saved, as the Bible says. All who do not are condemned because of their unbelief.

[@onedone7988]

The Scofield Bible isn't the actual Bible You just threw in a red herring

[@seanchaney3086]

Faith without Works is Dead. Void. Worthless. (James 2) It's Faithfulness. Your Conviction. I am not Calvinist, either. We have free will, but he is introducing another kind of error called "eternal security." From what? Belief? Belief with no Faith? It doesn't work that way. False believers reject God's Will to keep His Word. (Mark 3:31-35; Matthew 7:21-23) Christ will keep us, not only when we cooperate, but CONTINUE to cooperate.

[@heatherh4266]

Why would you debate a calvinist when all you are doing is debating The Word of God And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. Romans 8:28‭-‬30 ESV uts all about God and His wonderful gift of Salvation

[@evanu6579]

heather hayes The Golden Chain of Redemption In Romans 8:28-30 Paul is discussing the forefathers, who loved God, as an example of hope for the church in Rome. As Paul encourages the church, he uses men like Abraham as an example, for the hope that we have. I believe this to be a reiteration of statements he made in Romans 4. There’s no reason not to think that the foreknew in Romans 8, is of the same class of people as the foreknew in Romans 11........ Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew....... (Amos 3:1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, 2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.) First let's look at the flow of thought which leads up to this passage. vv1-16. We must walk in the Spirit. The Spirit confirms that we are children of God. vv17-19. If we suffer with Christ, we will also be glorified with Him. vv20-23. The entire creation is groaning, and in bondage from the fall, waiting for that day of redemption vv24-25. But our great hope is that we will be glorified with Him. vv26-27. The Spirit also helps us through this troublesome time. vv28. And we know (an appeal to their knowledge of the scriptures) that all things work together for good to them that love God. To them who are the called according to His purpose. vv29. Those whom He knew from before, He also purposed to receive a glorified body. vv30. And whom He predestinated, he also called. (Abraham called….) Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. vv30. Whom He called, He also justified. (Abraham justified….) Rom 4:3. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. vv30. Whom He justified, He also glorified. (Abraham glorified…) Gen 23:6 Hear us, my lord: thou art a mighty prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead. Gen 24:35 And the LORD hath blessed my master greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants, and camels, and asses. Being glorified in this way, is also part of our hope…… Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Jer 30:19 And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Rom 5: 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Also compare these verses (31-33) with what Paul stated in Romans 4 (Abraham)….. Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? (Again see Rom 5:8-10) Take care.

[@jaymorris9952]

John 12:32 "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself." In the seed and sower parable, the seed is spread everywhere, not just in certain spots, but it's only the seeds that fall on the good soil that make it. Meaning Jesus draws everyone to him, but not everyone accepts him. Romans 8:29: "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters" God foreknew who would be conformed, therefore he predestined them. If Calvinism was true, the word "foreknew" wouldn't have to be included

[@evanu6579]

John Betts The Golden Chain of Redemption I will attempt to give scriptural evidence, that in Romans 8:28-30 Paul is discussing the forefathers, who loved God, as an example of hope for the church in Rome. As Paul encourages the church, he uses men like Abraham as an example, for the hope that we have. I believe this to be a reiteration of a statement he made in Romans 4. I believe that the foreknew in Romans 8, is of the same class of people as the foreknew in Romans 11........ Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew....... Amos 3:1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, 2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. First let's look at the flow of thought which leads up to this passage. vv1-16. We must walk in the Spirit. The Spirit confirms that we are children of God. vv17-19. If we suffer with Christ, we will also be glorified with Him. vv20-23. The entire creation is groaning, and in bondage from the fall, waiting for that day of redemption vv24-25. But our great hope is that we will be glorified with Him. vv26-27. The Spirit also helps us through this troublesome time. vv28. And we know (an appeal to their knowledge of the scriptures) that all things work together for good to them that love God. To them who are the called according to His purpose. vv29. Those whom He knew from before, He also purposed to receive a glorified body. vv30. And whom He predestinated, he also called. (Abraham called….) Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. vv30. Whom He called, He also justified. (Abraham justified….) Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. vv30. Whom He justified, He also glorified. (Abraham glorified…) Gen 23:6 Hear us, my lord: thou art a mighty prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead. Gen 24:35 And the LORD hath blessed my master greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants, and camels, and asses. Being glorified in this way, is also part of our hope…… Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Jer 30:19 And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Compare these verses (31-33) with what Paul stated in Romans 4 (Abraham)….. Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? I believe Paul is borrowing this phraseology from Isaiah…… Isaiah 50:8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me. 9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up. God bless

[@sonnyh9774]

Jesus said "Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand" John the Baptist basically said the same thing Why does this pastor think you don't need to repent again?

[@sonnyh9774]

@UFCNUTTA Ad hominem attacks do not reflect well upon Christians. A true change of mind results in a change of behavior. Faith without works is dead faith which does not lead unto salvation ... according to what the Bible says.

[@sonnyh9774]

faith without works is .... salvation? No. The Bible says faith without works is DEAD. That's non saving faith. "even the demons believe and tremble". Works show the existence of real faith but works do not save. It's only a consequence of the reality of a new creature trying to please his Saviour through obedience.

[@jenniesuter4402]

Thank you so much for the clarification!!

[@orvillewright548]

Jennie Suter When misrepresentation becomes clarification, the end result will not be consistent with the truth.

[@1804-rocks]

Sad. When you misunderstand the 5 points of Calvinism, the argument against it is quite rubbish. Many so-called theologians also misrepresent Calvinism. "If God requires of the sinner, dead in sin, that he should take the first step, then he requires just that which renders salvation as impossible under the gospel as it was under the law, since man is as unable to believe as he is to obey."-Charles Spurgeon

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

Sorry, but Spurgeon was wrong. I don't believe what I do because of some quote from a man. Don't fret a minute about me understanding the five points of Calvinism. Neither point is based on scripture. Yankee

[@1804-rocks]

@@YankeeArnoldMinistries Charles Spurgeon was clearly saved by Grace, and so am I. Since I was young I attended a church that taught me LORDSHIP SALVATION. I did not know that it was called 'lordship salvation'. I was asked to open my heart and ask Jesus to come into my heart as LORD & SAVIOR. I did that many times sincerely, IN SEVERAL CAMPS, and I always had this idea that I may be saved. But, I WASN'T!! I HAD NO JOY WHATSOEVER, NOR ASSURANCE IN MY HEART. When it comes to eternal security and righteousness, I was always returning to being a sinner, not knowing where I was heading, trying to be good, and trying to be righteous before God. I'd asked God to forgive my sins daily, and I'd make resolutions year after year to be a better person. But, I was suffering. Deep down my heart, I knew I wasn't saved. I was the same as what Paul said, the evil that I don't want to do, I keep on doing it. However, one day, I read a book, the book was actually a collection of audio tapes from a Crusade. It was Oct 15 2002. I came to realize that I was a sinner, not just a one-time sinner, but SINNER, in the past, SINNER in the present and SINNER in the future. As Romans 3: 10-18 puts it, I discovered that I have no righteousness IN ME. ALL MY RIGHTEOUSNESS, my goodness that I have accumulated were all filthy rags. That's when the LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL shines in my heart. I also discovered that God sent Jesus to such a person to make me HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS not for one day, or two days, but for ETERNITY. That sweet GOOD NEWS SWEPT into my heart and made me to believe that I had been SAVED. The verse: "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." entered into my heart, and I was assured that I have become RIGHTEOUS before God. Just like the adulterous woman of John 8, I discovered that I had no way, but the WORD OF GOD justified me. NOT MY DECISION or making JESUS LORD. I didn't do that. The word which was a sweet as honey ASSURED ME THAT I HAVE BEEN SAVED BY THE SACRIFICE OF THE BODY OF JESUS ONCE FOR ALL (HEBREWS 10:10). OH, WHAT A HAPPY DAY THAT WAS!!

[@YankeeArnoldMinistries]

Thanks for sharing your testimony. God bless. Yankee @@1804-rocks

[@delcannon5051]

Amen!!

[@MariusVanWoerden]

How can faith be the consequence of the New Birth [13.15] on this Video If God justifies THE UNGODLY? Are the ungodly borne again? How are you going to DEBATE A CALVINIST if you are totally clueless about the Scripture and the Order of Salvation. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude THAT A MAN IS JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. The order of salvation is: Ungodly, Faith and by faith we are justified. Faith cannot come after the new birth. Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: Justification is a work of God the Father and the Holy Spirit in us and without us. Justification and faith do not have a sequence in time but in order Faith- Justification but are simultaneously in time. Sanctification is a work of The Holy Spirit in us but not without us. Justification and sanctification cannot be separated. There is no sanctification without justification or justification without sanctification, this even when sanctification is just a begin of regeneration through all our life. Faith is by Grace and the free gift of God. This is how Calvin preached the Gospel FREE OFFER OF THE GOSPEL (Calvin's Wisdom p119-120) He calls all men to himself, without a single exception, and gives Christ to all, that we may be illumined by him. When we pray, we ought, according to the rule of charity, to include all. God invites all indiscriminately to salvation through the Gospel, BUT THE INGRATITUDE OF THE WORLD IS THE REASON why this grace, which is equally offered to all, is enjoyed by few.

[@EDD519]

WHY do we use the name CALVINIST ? we need to look in the New Tesament nowere will you find John Calvin !

[@GracieDontPlayDat]

Oh, I get it. You will get cancelled if you don’t at least slip in one heresy. Why the beautiful message of salvation, but the Scofield Bible?

[@RealJustinReed]

For absolute, irrefutable, undeniable proof that you should NOT examine your life for evidence of salvation, read II Corinthians 13:5. If you want true, Biblical assurance of salvation, just keep your eyes closed, fingers crossed, teeth clenched, and click your heels together while repeating, "I know I'm saved. I know I'm saved. I know I'm saved." I can't remember the reference, but I know that's what the Bible teaches.