How To Define The Greatest Rapper Of All Time

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[@willemdee]

These never ending debates over preference are always amusing cause someone will get mad at your top 5 cause it doesn't match their own lol

[@alphaamigo9688]

willemdee ikr. People need to understand that you can't have twenty people in your top five.

[@odg42]

nobody 123 exactly man, top 5s are hard as fuck to make, I can't stand leaving out certain rappers but that's the challenge of it I guess Yet people still take it as a moment to try and" educate" you on the culture because you left out their favourite backpack rapper from arizona or some shit. People get fucking bloodthirsty over GOAT lists, that's why I only partake over comment sections, I dont wanna die for this shit 😂

[@rickeybernard8156]

willemdee exactly

[@rickeybernard8156]

SAMO KiiNG dude please. That best mc shit is opinion at best. At the most it's popular opinion. The reason people do that because they either conform or they are frustrated someone does not share the same opinion. It's like that "Made you look" remix. It's easily arguable that Luda and Kiss washed Nas on that track, but since it's Nas, popular opinion is Nas did better. You can't say someone is better without another being discredited.

[@p.u.r.emusicgroup894]

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[@slaughterbuku6614]

Why everyone sleeps on Andre3000. Most creative . He's a real Artist .. great fashion sense. He's the best writer composter and rapper in my opinion. Outkast changed the south.. He started the fashion trends rappers now days . he's lyrically and musically gifted than most of the top 5. He's always consistent in delivery. wordsmith.

[@didiermashaba8464]

Tramaine didn't he cross dress?

[@MsJustcurious24]

Tramaine Andre is the true GOAT above all the things you mentioned he is also the best performer (when it comes to hip hop) till this day

[@MB-yi4wu]

Tramaine when Andre 3000 puts out another solo album excluding that Love Below bullshit and it's hot then you have an argument

[@danielmclaren170890]

does he even have a solo album? he dresses like I chick trying to be a guy or a guy trying to be a chick. that's fashion if you're trans

[@kharis87]

Daniel McLaren I agree his fashion is straight up fruity. That bull shit agenda he has to play into. But as a lyricist he is great......however he needs a real solo album to validate how great he really is.

[@MIkkoBaffo]

I'd listen to this as a Spotify podcast. Thoughts?

[@Ghost_Nava]

MIkkoBaffo Jude use to have a podcast but contractually with Siriusxm he can't do podcasts

[@cordellboss]

MIkkoBaffo since when does Spotify have Podcasts?

[@drivmwempozv4445]

MIkkoBaffo FUCKING AGREED

[@MIkkoBaffo]

Immortal Vegan In the UK if you pay 9.99 a month you have access to podcasts.

[@MIkkoBaffo]

EddyNaVa76 is that so? That's a shame

[@maltherossel9348]

Also, thank you, Justin, for showing up for Lupe Fiasco, THE most underrated and undervalued rapper ever no shit!

[@hiphopdx]

Agreed!!

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

Yes sir

[@-Anonymous-.]

He never got the credit he deserved. 1 big reason is that Kanye overshadowed him. The lane Lupe was in during the 2000's Kanye was at the forefront, even though technically Lupe is a better skilled rapper. If the cool & food & liquor dropped today he would be more valued.

[@maltherossel9348]

If The Cool, Food & Liquor and Food & Liquor II were released by Kendrick today they would be hailed as some of the best albums ever.

[@-Anonymous-.]

Malthe Rossel very true man. & kdot has a very similar cadence to Lupe when it comes to his approach on records with deeper/in depth meanings, & hidden messages.

[@billystutz55]

"Ain't no best." - Nas

[@saul_goodman3932]

Nah there's a best

[@hbkashhh3452]

Nas is the best

[@saul_goodman3932]

@@hbkashhh3452 I disagree I think nas is overrated because of illmatic and ether

[@shady8045]

true but that doesn't mean there aren't various degrees of good and bad, i personally would characterize quality as whether it succeeds its artistic intention and how well those appeal to me (ie a feel good song that makes you feel good or a horror core song that makes you scared, or a political song that has good thoughtful messages ) how creativity it is and the influence those innovative decisions had on the medium as a whole, the difficulty of the craft (which is why i respect a lot of "lyrical miracle" rap despite it being a pretty saturated sub genre). 2 and 3 in particular are the most concerned with technically ability like rhyme and flow while for the most part all 3 is relevant to the lyrics themselves. for example Kendrick Lamar's best albums hits each criteria the hardest, exceptionally innovative with extremely unique flows and production (especially in TPAB), compelling in its message, and technically proficient, and those are considered some of the best albums of all time. same with a lot of the other "goats" like Nas and big, both succeeded at what they were trying to do in each song compellingly, wrote their songs in a difficult way that required wit, and innovated the genre. even some sound cloud rappers occasionally meet some of these marks and honestly good for them (granted plenty don't, looking at you lil Xan).

[@saul_goodman3932]

@Mathematics em,jay,mf doom,all of the wu tang, outkast, etc

[@carterh3182]

Does Jude really think in 10 years were gonna look back at TPAB and say "nah that albums stale now"? or even GKMC?

[@melsotelo5109]

Billy, From the Produce Section well from those albums he's probably only heard M.A.A.D city, poetic justice,alright,and king kunta. as he's said he hasn't actually listened to most of his catalog

[@carterh3182]

Mel Sotelo He said last video he listened to TPAB. But you're probably right about GKMC.

[@jacobrobinson8310]

Billy, From the Produce Section He never heard the albums in their entirety. So he wouldn't know.

[@luistorres8005]

Billy, From the Produce Section that dude didn't even hear them, he also says he doesn't listen to hip hop anymore. This guy's opinion on this means shit.

[@Beamboy555]

Billy, From the Produce Section yes. In the same way 2Pacolypse is stale. No comparing Pac to Kendrick because Pac is on another level but without a doubt Kendrick will bring out some better shit than gkmc. It's the same way as looking at eminems albums the Slim Shady LP is stale and not as good because of the MMLP. It goes for every rapper with a buzz don't think kendricks an exception because your basically saying he won't make anything better

[@mystatamiaj]

"I went to the hat store and bought a new hat" #fire

[@MrSunShadows]

REKANIZE TV lol #fire

[@unsubscribe4694]

REKANIZE TV Donald glover

[@strangerde2709]

BARZ

[@mattsak3338]

Black thought is mad underated

[@stephen214]

This comment is on EVERY debate video and gets LOADS of appreciation... just saying

[@mattsak3338]

2020Ave facts. He def gets respect. 15 year old me 3 years thought he has underrated bc he is underrated in younger demographics.

[@stephen214]

@Matt Sak fair mate

[@zachyboi7293]

He's not consistent

[@PreparedDeath]

There is a reason everyone gets compared to Pac. He seems to tick every box, other rappers do certain things better but he is too hard to ignore.

[@gh0rochi363]

PreparedDeath how does he tick all boxes? I like Pac but bars wise he's lacking. He says nothing amazing. Good beats but that's the producers and sound engineers. Not even the most original in flow nor subject matter. He s a good rapper. If He s your favorite dope but that doesn't make him the goat

[@tupacshakur3745]

taaj howell Brenda's Got A Baby, California Love, To Live And Die In LA, Runnin, 2 Of Americaz Most Wanted, All Eyez On Me, Ambitionz Az A Ridah, Ghetto Gospel, Dear Mama, I Get Around, Keep Ya Head Up, Only God Can Judge Me, Hit Em Up, How Do U Want It, Hail Mary, Me Against The World, and hundreds and hundreds more. Yeah forget that he ain't talented

[@Dubz9Ball]

taaj howell I agree

[@jjocto]

Fuck tupac

[@Anthonydu01630]

taaj howell i always find it funny when people says yes he has good beats but its the producer and sound engineers work ... Of course but who fucking choosed the beat man ??? Eminem whad the best producer in the world but most of his beats are wack, beats selection are one of the quality of a rapper. Drake, Lil wayne and kendrick are very good for that that's why their music almost always sound good to the ears, choosing a beat that will fit you well is a skill

[@KKillaMcneal]

Can we please stop sleeping on Big Boi? I think it is so disrespectful how people are quick to mention Andre, but Big Boi has had plenty of individual success with Sir Lucious Left Foot, I would say that album will go down as a classic. Its so slept on and the experimentation of Vicious Lies and Dangerous Truths that was not as good as Sir Lucious, but to see Big Boi step out of his comfort zone working with Phantogram. Big Boi is just not another rapper and I LOVE 3K, but please do not sleep on Big Boi.

[@jeremybutler2103]

Mos Def always get left outta the GOAT conversations. He's mosdefinetly Top5. No doubt.

[@ameensimmons4626]

Jeremy Butler these people don't know!!!!!!!

[@Ghuttora7]

Jeremy Butler Blackstar Respiration with Common is voted as one the best hiphop written tracks of all time.

[@tonyschimmoeller4439]

Love Mos but I'd say Black Thought and Pharoahe Monch deserve top 5 before Mos.

[@MR_RAVEZ]

How is Mos Def is Top 5? He's a dope Emcee but I wouldn't put him Top 5 or even Top 20

[@ameensimmons4626]

his ability plus the impact of his music and all his music holds up and btw he killed every feature he was on .....

[@Belowone]

GOAT rappers people never mention: Big L.

[@lultimmsrevolver]

Doom Santana he died so young

[@alphaamigo9688]

Doom Santana Big L could have definitely become the GOAT, or at least one of the GOATs, had he not died so young.

[@wm_9640]

Doom Santana doesn't have a catalog

[@lulujones]

Big L - 2 classic albums, not in the conversation Biggie - 2 classic albums, in the conversation...okay

[@Belowone]

Elrond Hubbard exactly!!

[@killekillekille1]

My top 10: Pac, Biggie, Rakim, Big Pun, Eminem, Kanye, Jay Z, Kane, Nas and Wu-Tang

[@bigodetexas]

at 25 pac had the whole country ready for war. nobody in the history of rap made you feel the way pac did. pac is goat period

[@ItsValWow]

Andre better

[@joelclark2183]

Think that's debateable but okay.

[@ItsValWow]

Joel Clark Andre is better than Pac imo

[@joelclark2183]

@@ItsValWow No I do too I was just replying to the first guy. Andre better easily, Pacs influence was massive but he has a mediocre discog. All Eyez On Me is the most overrated Classic OAT

[@ItsValWow]

Joel Clark FAX! Pac still a legend thi

[@YnSo33]

Mixtape weezy Lil wayne was unmatched because of his constancy and quality output. Not to mention his cultural relevance, he's arguably one of the most influential to do it. So many different dope flows, def my top 10 all time. Sad that ppl downplay his career when he unarguably ran hip hop for 4 years...

[@alexsar4852]

Sofonias Habtemariam Wayne GOAT!!

[@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq]

I agree

[@saul_goodman3932]

Nah wayne is super successful but I don't put wayne in top 10 maybe top 20

[@hondafan163]

i love jude and justin together there should be more collabs with him

[@hondafan163]

thanks

[@andreacusi]

FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONED ROYCE DA 59

[@MFSGamePlay]

Andrea Cusanno right. too bad he doesn't want the success. well, to me he doesn't.

[@jaycee598]

Royce da Bomb

[@tupacshakur3745]

Andrea Cusanno yeah seriously he is pretty fucking good

[@bourkupine1281]

Yeah, he's one of the only people who can do better than Eminem on a song

[@stephen214]

@Andrea Cusanno 3 years ago... You wait for his 2018 and 2020 releases!! 🔥🔥

[@munozjonathan86]

I love when Justin and Rude Jude have these convos.

[@chickenfightaz]

Pac, Kendrick, Jay-z, Lil Wayne, Nas

[@kevinlos8231]

Fernando Harris I'd have to give it up to this list

[@alexsar4852]

Fernando Harris Lil Wayne GOAT!!

[@saul_goodman3932]

Lil wayne😭

[@goat9283]

Hater

[@gkay8889]

Get Pac out and we straight

[@emmanueld.1816]

Lupe Fiasco. No other rappers are making concept albums like Tetsuo & Youth, intertwining social issues, spirituality, cartoons and video games seamlessly. You can put 'Mural' against any other rapper's best song. He makes conscious songs over trap beats. Not to mention the Michael Young History epic. He's great by any measure of a rapper, wordplay, flow, metaphors allusions, couplets etc...and DROGAS Wave is on the way. Just my two cents..thank you guys for making this video for the culture.

[@momo-ht2oe]

Emmanuel D. Mural is in the top 3 of my favourite song. 1 The Great Gig In The Sky: Pink Floyd 2 March to the Sea: Twenty one pilots 3 Mural: Lupe Fiasco

[@zublack5609]

Wassup hiphopdx I'd rather you debate with a dude that's not so bias to music he obviously doesn't listen to .. Kendrick Lamar is arguably one of the greatest period , I noticed he never said anything when you brought up Wayne .. how could you not recognize Wayne skills,, innovation, impact on hip-hop , even Scarface who he was dickriding so much said Wayne is one of the greatest of all time ... Use that quote in the next show ... please debate with someone more like yourself .Who's more objective and introspective

[@timjamesbitch4693]

1. Eminem 2. Biggie 3. Pac 4. Pun 5. Weezy

[@charlienorthover1702]

THE TOP TEN HAS TO BE: 1)2Pac (he had TOTAL control and mastery of the people) 2)A Tribe Called Quest (a group but hip hop nevertheless) 3)Scarface 4)Biggie 5)Rakim 6)MF DOOM and all his other aliases 7)Kendrick Lamar (this is because his lyrics are poetry in motion) 8)Ice Cube (wrote a lot of albums, songs and is a fucking genius in general- also has the BEST dis track in the WORLD) 9)Nas 10)Aesop Rock (personal favorite of mine) THE BEST YOUNG RAPPER OF ALL TIME (not hip hop, but rap in general) DIZZEE RASCAL *drops mic*

[@MugsyBrews]

I love these dudes and really dig their banter/chemistry. Justin Hunte I appreciate what you doing, keep it up bruh

[@moose2066]

I think it's almost impossible to determine the best rapper of all time...u can't do it without discrediting other rappers, is it Pac??What about the other cats from the 90's illmatic, ready to die don't count?What about LL cool J,Slick Rick, KRS or Rakeem(80s rappers) who came way before Pac(or any other 90s rapper) What about Eminem,3k,MF or even Kendrick(99-10s rappers) HipHop changes and evolves. sounds different every decade. How do we determine this,skill or Discography?

[@tropical9913]

iMoose you simply can't crown a hip-hop artist as the greatest. impossible. it's not like pop or reggae, where you can easily say Michael Jackson & Bob Marley are the goats.

[@UltimateDrDoom]

Tropical99 Oh. I wasn't aware one specific genre isn't quantifiable where the rest are.

[@moose2066]

Tropical99 yeah that's what I said

[@thedondon911911]

iMoose it's about having common sense and not being biased

[@K0sm1cKid]

Everyone is biased about music. It is purely bias. haha

[@steelliving8785]

We are talking a time, when gangsta rap had emerged with the rise of N.W.A and Suge Knight’s Death Row. In a time when men were judged by what size gun they were carrying, Tupac was a man whom everyone respected despite his emotional bent of mind. He was the leader that Eminem could not be.

[@meeksman2488]

"I can" on Gods son is one of the best rap songs of all time

[@jedmyth]

Personal preference in no order Nas, HOV, 3 stacks, K Dot, Biggie, Tupac, and Wayne. Could say any of these on any given day

[@jedmyth]

NewNinetys Tha Carter 2, 3 and 4 not to mention any of his mixtapes. And this is from a guy who also had countless memorable features. Biggie had two of the best albums in rap at that time. As far as straight spitting no one did it better. I don't think he is the GOAT but the way he was able to impact society in such a short amount of time gives him more than a reason to be in the top 5

[@desolatesouls3040]

What do you think about Big Pun?

[@alexsar4852]

NewNinetys lol Wayne is The Greatest..

[@4neumann]

@@desolatesouls3040 'scuse me for blunt but i been eating cunt since pimps was pushin pink caddies wit the fishtank pumps These kids dumb as fuck. Drake an entertainer, not a rapper. Wayne ain't close to top 20. Pac a poet, and no disrespect, but no top 5. Check the fucking Big ghost chronicles softest in the game for a good laugh.

[@ninadganore]

@@4neumann wayne the goat, Drake one if the goats

[@sammyjaber1338]

Lupe fiasco's hip hop saved my life was a great 3rd party song... words I've never said was so socially great... but 2pac was so great and makes you feel something great every time.

[@odg42]

GOAT list for me: 1. Pac 2. Eminem 3. Nas 4. Biggie 5. Kendrick Lamar 6. André 3000 7. DMX 8. Jay Z 9. GZA 10. MF DOOM

[@divinericks68]

ODG I agree with this list

[@clamp202]

bleachlover 2000 3 stacks the goat bro

[@Anthonydu01630]

Loool, GZA, MF DOOM 😂 Nobody listen that shit man cmon ... You cant put underground rapper on a GOAT list, they dont have influence, they dont have cultural relevance .. If they are not famous is because they arent good, period. They can be amazing lyricist but rap is not only that but also flow, voices, delivery, charisma, energy, beat selection !!!

[@Anthonydu01630]

Were is Wayne ? Were is Kanye ? Were is Drake ? Were is fucking snoop dogg ? Biggie had 2fucking album in his career how can you put him ahead of Jay-z when he has 14number 1album and 22grammy ??? When he has 3classic and 6others very good albums ???? And lil wayne is the most influencial, original, creative and productive rapper ever, like it or not its a fact so if he isnt in your top 10 you are biased.

[@shady8045]

here is mine 1.kendrick 2.biggie 3. mf doom 4. Jay z 5. Black thought 6. Rakim 7. Eminem 8.pac 9. Andre 10. Nas

[@sillypenta]

I went to the hat store and got a new hat.

[@Gemini050788]

Donald Glover lol

[@sebastianflorero8699]

sillypenta Donald glover!

[@JT-Barney]

"I went to the hat store today and I bought myself a hat, ahaha!"

[@dohboy200]

fire

[@DavidSmith-iz8fw]

13:49 hahahaha

[@KtotheG]

"Latest is greatest" is a cancerous mentality in hip hop. Smh. We're the only music genre where our "greatest" changes every 5 years. I can't stand that shit.

[@JensenAugustin]

At the end of the day, who is "THE GOAT" is all subjective, it really doesn't matter who is considered the greatest and who isn't

[@thedondon911911]

Leo this is the most ignorant comment I've ever read about hip hop

[@JensenAugustin]

thedondon911911 Explain to me what was ignorant about what I said?

[@giornogiovanna845]

thedondon911911 Yes...Do explain how what he said is ignorant....Cuz my G.O.A.T is Biggie

[@tendo824]

Bernard Gilkes Mine is Biggie too...

[@jovonj4010]

biggie is mine too. Then Nas...Then ghostface.

[@hoop6822]

That point about the old heads at the start is so good. People who are underrated in the GOAT convo, Lupe, DOOM, Andre, Big L, Big Pun, Kool G Rap, Chuck D, Black Thought, Canibus and Scarface. Obviously the more common ones, Nas, Big, Pac, Em, Rakim, Kendrick, Jay Z are very good too.

[@cebosityata8457]

It's a fact that Tupac was super influential and still is even now so much later

[@JimmiPynk]

Eminem is like Jordan when he went to the Washington Wizards. too many lackluster performances done fucked his stats up and left it open for someone else to be considered the GOAT

[@jordanrobinson8572]

Jimmi Pynk 🤔🤔🤔 are you stupid or should I appreciate your wrong opinion. 🤔🤔🤔 joking thanks for telling us what you where thinking.

[@JimmiPynk]

learn to spell before you come for me darling, it's were not where.

[@thclanavenger]

Jimmi Pynk he came back and claimed the title without claiming it but honestly redman is the shit

[@KiddsWorldEntertainment]

Jordan Robinson " Wrong opinion" you just lost all credibility

[@jordanrobinson8572]

Controversial Radio I couldn't give two shit's.

[@HugoHakvoort]

There's no GOAT. It's almost impossible to have an actual GOAT.

[@thedondon911911]

Hugo Hakvoort yes there is a goat, you're just too lazy to argue

[@HugoHakvoort]

I don't think you could really have a GOAT, you never know, there may be some really, really underground rappers who are technically better than a Biggy or an Eminem. Lyrics wise, a suburban white kid will relate more with a rap about partying and smoking weed than a rap about shit going on in the hood and about the relation between for example black Americans and the police. So even lyrically you can't really say the one is better than the other. Hip hop doesn't even need to be political, it wasn't in the late 70s and early 80s atleast. Yeah, I think a track with some well thought political lyrics is better than one about fucking 'bitches' even though I can't really relate with it, but even that is pretty opinion based. For example, a lot of people label Eminem as the GOAT, but for me in my personal opinion he wouldn't stand a chance because I really just like people like Nas or Kendrick more in the overall picture, even when Eminem is amazing technically and lyrically.

[@tupacshakur3745]

I agree more or less. Everyone has their own strengths, it's really hard to compare artists.

[@Dubz9Ball]

Tupac Shakur it’s all opinion at the end of the day you jus have to state ur case for who u like. No right or wrong answer

[@aaronkeenan2552]

Lionel Messi

[@darman210]

Jay Z- for the success Eminem/Lil Wayne- for the worldplay Lupe- for the intelligence Tupac- enough said Twista/Biggie- for the flow Outcast/Bone/Wu Tang- best groups Kanye- great production

[@radagastthebrown5025]

Darkeith Lofton lil wayne ? who shit in ur brain? (freestyle for scale)

[@alexsar4852]

Radagast The Brown lil Wayne The GOAT bitch!!

[@djandreatkinson8671]

Jay z is the goat

[@ninadganore]

@@radagastthebrown5025 wayne is the goat

[@420speedweed]

eminem and wayne's wordplay arent anything special

[@ahjgetloud]

Love the dynamic but you can't argue with a guy that "no longer listens to rap".

[@EddyKaSham]

you know you're old when you refer to people as "cats"

[@yinn9mm]

My Top 5: 1- Lil Wayne, 2- 2Pac, 3- J.Cole, 4- Eminem, 5- B.I.G.

[@MrSquaky]

2pac

[@elibenGodson]

2pac. Andre 3k... two of the greatest if all times!

[@upshawjohn94]

I think both guys bring up great points. My ways of classifying someone a goat is from: 1. Influence 2. Critical Acclaim 3. Consistent Prime 4. Relevance 5. Commercial Success

[@s.m.pravin9738]

Lil Wayne has everything. Great bars, great commercial success, never had a bad verse, he created mumble rap, doesn’t hesitate to get out of his comfort zone and sound like today’s rappers and still spit fire. I don’t think anyone can match Wayne.

[@tonylopez9574]

Whoever has a ghost writer They can't be the GOAT TALKING ABOUT DRAKE

[@shauncameron8390]

Yet you'll hypocritically claim Kanye as one.

[@radiationbacon]

@@shauncameron8390 & Kendrick! Drake's highkey a bum but tbf everyone's dips their toe in ghostwriters usually. It's like steroids in pro sports, dark secret that everyone's on

[@lulanononwo6276]

Thay goes for Kanye can't be in no conversation either

[@ahjgetloud]

Watching the end of this makes me think you should do a Breakdown piece about overshadowed greats, those that are collaborative and/or in groups. Big Boi is an example of a group and Royce is an example because of early AND recent collaboration with Eminem. The mention of Black Thought was also interesting.

[@WhyIDontHaveALife]

"Drakes the most overrated rapper" You just earned a subscription and a like my friend.

[@KtotheG]

Ice Cube was the first rapper to release albums in consecutive years.

[@terrenceperkins5282]

&

[@KtotheG]

@@terrenceperkins5282 I guess you didn't watch the video.

[@420speedweed]

thats not even true though rakim and big daddy kane did that before cube

[@rcfresh4345]

Dope channel..finally true hip hop heads from a perspective outside of NY ✊🏾 Keep it up 💯

[@elibenGodson]

"IS THERE A HEAVEN FOR A BALLER"?- Tu Pac (Only Fear of Death) one of the coolest phares ever in rap

[@mystatamiaj]

Pimp C also sang his ass off on them hooks too boi!!!

[@yesp9248]

If you didn't know Lil Wayne was the G.O.A.T, now ya do.

[@MikeNmurdoc]

These discussions are some of my favorite videos on youtube. Thanks Justin and Jude for being the two of the only cats around willing just see what the other one thinks about hip hop. RESPECK!

[@EyemJustMe]

HipHopDX is a blessing to the hip hop community. They provoke great conversation.

[@TollFree999]

De La Soul needs to digitize their catalogue, no one owns cd players anymore. They're missing out on a lot record sales.

[@keepclam3584]

nas the greatest lyrical tupac the greatest hip hop artist

[@universalboss8826]

@Aaron9 hahhahaha biggest joke ever. Keep lissen to migos. Eberybody wanna BE PAC gtfo

[@jackjax7921]

@@universalboss8826 2pac is a glorified hypocrite.

[@Vuitton_The_Ruler_]

Rakim is the 'G.O.A.T.' PERIOD!

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Nah only 2 ablums

[@RockyBergen]

I am glad you are breaking this down and am happy to spend the hour with you doing it.

[@TinyMontgomery204]

Love these convos. Usually agree more with Justin but I appreciate Jude just as much. You two are really entertaining. One thing I'd ask Jude is if he really expects Kendrick's last 4 projects to not stand the test of time. For example, I can confidently say that To Pimp a Butterfly will go down as the greatest album of the 2010's, as well as one of the best of all time. It's changed music a mere three years after its release, and has inspired/influenced people outside of the hip hop community from David Bowie to Kasmani Washington. I really don't see us 20 years from now going "man, what were we thinking. That project wasn't that good".

[@PlayKeeps-il4fn]

Wayne had 80 features in one year and took over a solid 4 yrs who else can do dat 🤔🤔

[@nitsujneal]

David E he da 🐐

[@thehound3582]

2Coo 2kJunky HHQHAAHHAHAHAHAHA

[@kevinlos8231]

David E wtf Wayne ruled for more than 4years

[@disobayent]

93-96 Pac > No mixtape shit either..

[@ninadganore]

6-7 years at least

[@bmore24t56]

pac had 5 albums at his death 3 out of 5 being classics and the other albums still had classic material I love pac

[@acenturyofblackmusic1655]

Four classics

[@districtlump1086]

Bmore24 t 5 classics,if you really really listen, Pac dropped jewels in every line

[@Christopher._M]

2 classics

[@bmore24t56]

true

[@bmore24t56]

2? no he had 3

[@jc3raps191]

Top 10 1.) Nas 2.) 2pac 3.) Eminem 4.) Kendrick Lamar 5.) Lil Wayne 6.) Kanye 7.) Biggie 8.) Ice Cube 9.) Jay Z 10.) J Cole

[@ninadganore]

Wayne higher

[@nb2685]

I generally base artists off of specific talents. There's no goat for me, just goats of certain categories. For example, Big Boi is my goat of flow, Andre 3000 for lyrical talent, Jay Z for class and relevance of culture, Eminem for rhyming, Nas for the perfect mix

[@demetrelontos1359]

Doesn’t saying nas has the perfect mix basically just mean he’s the best of them all

[@lightVs.DarkBalance]

@@demetrelontos1359 It's true honestly Nas has a balance of everything that makes an Emcee. He's completely all around and pretty much always puts out quality work.

[@JimmiPynk]

only half way through, but I have to agree with Jude. Without knowledge of the entirety of hip hop, you cannot​ even be in a conversation discussing the GOAT. Some criminally underrated emcees (not GOAT status) are AZ, Rah Digga, Phonte, and Left Eye, yes Left Eye, go back and listen to Left Eye flow and then listen to pop Nicki Minaj, or Natina from Blaque. If you can't make educated comparisons you have no business even casting a vote in who the GOAT is. Great show so far. Can't wait to watch the rest!

[@DarkMajava]

Jimmi Pynk And now Gates is so damn close.

[@lukeg3983]

Dude said hes unfamiliar with all of Kendrick's work then not 2 mins later says, "you can't say whose the greatest and not know all his shit." I know they're not talking Kendrick specifically but its kinda funny thats what started this convo

[@SlutForInstantNoodles]

As much as I dislike Jude, I'll always watch anything with Justin Hunte in it.

[@SuperKnockyoudown]

Eminem is the goat, like seriously most records sold by almost double to any other rapper. Best lyricist by far he reads the dictionary for fun. Introduced many crazy new styles. Has been creating rap constantly since 88. All his music is catchy as fuck. He can freestyle better than anyone past or present maybe even future. He has the speed, he can rap faster than tech n9ne. His fluent words and fluent flow is unparralel and he was the first white boy who made it big and got accepted by another race into their territory. MGK Mac miller etc all can't rap for shit in my opinion compared to em they are nothing but dust. So there you have it in every category Eminem is untouched so stop saying he's not the goat just cuz of his skin color idiots. Andre 3000 in 2nd.

[@bleunt]

I don't think popularity needs to be included within the list of demands. A lot of great rappers never hit the mainstream. My favorite rapper is Aesop Rock, he's my GOAT. But he will never sell 10 million albums, influence the industry, or become a household name that grandmas know about. Is it certain that extreme talent will always be recognized? Are the most known and popular and successful rappers surely also the best ones? And are the lesser known rappers absolutely worse than the most widely known ones? What if the best rapper of all time lives in Korea or Japan, or France?

[@bejitah]

Canibus, AZ, R.A. The Rugged Man, Locksmith, Elzhi. Extreme top tier lyricism. I'll also throw in Loaded Lux if we're talking sheer lyrical ability. And that's just to name a few.

[@1000pushups1000]

Yes, I love anything with Justin.

[@intrekidd]

Na MC Serch did not pick beats on illmatic, it was Large Pro at the captain chair

[@vegancoastie9630]

Where is Lupe in the GOAT talk? These fools sleeping on Tetsuo and Youth but, Lu did say "Bumped into Doom the greatest rappers collide Everybody dead but AZ the greatest rapper survived I'm not the greatest rapper... the greatest rappers' a lie Got the same points as Lux the greatest rappers a tie, Chris said Common, Common said Kweli, Talib said I'm sure it's Mos Definitely"

[@OsofoGriot]

That first caller hits it BANG on. "You are not the greatest if we can tell the story of Hip Hop without you"

[@rocketskyvolta3004]

you know what all these rapper's have in common. Nas, Jay, Z, Ghostface Killah, Outkast, Snoop Dogg, Warren G, Eminem, Tupac, Biggie Smalls... they all mentioned Slick Rick... you know who's picture is in Jay Z's book? Slick Rick. He had flow patterns man. first two albums. Great Adventures has a variety of flows. LL Cool J came out first but Slick Rick had brought the clarity to telling a story like how Scarface will tell clarity stories a few years later

[@anthonyg2889]

Nobody has a better Discography than PAC musically there ya go end of discussion

[@TheDCbiz]

Anthony G Kanye, Cube, Kendrick, and more have in terms of GREAT AND DIFFERENT DISCOGRAPHIES comparable even if Tupacs is iconic and talented

[@anthonyg2889]

TheDCbiz First of all Kanye don't write all his stuff so he's out the pitcure, Kendrick don't connect to the streets like PAC PAC was a voice to every hood and community,and Ice Cube is definitely better than Kdot and Kanye hands down I can't argue Ice cube

[@TheDCbiz]

Anthony G Strictly speaking discographies Kanyes and Kung fu kenny can compare with Pacs just how Michael Jackson's discographies can be compared with Beyonce's. All of these artists have multiple years of music that is significant to many people. To me personally Kanye isn't in the goat running since he is strictly an artist and not a rapper, he focuses on the artistry more like someone in a marketing department would.I like people, not just rappers, who write their own music but it doesn't disqualify anyone's greatness if they don't-can expect people to do it all y'know. I grew up post Pac, being born the same year he died, so I've had to have different rappers to relate to though you right. Pac could connect with sooooo many people in many ways. And Cube can't be ignored in this discussion-he does bring his a game I think he isn't only because he isn't trying to be the goat now-can't be the greatest if you haven't driven rap from the driver's seat in 20+ years. Pac is hard to beat but he personally ain't 1. he's in the top for me though

[@KtotheG]

The Source pissed me off when they gave '93 'Til Infinity 3 1/2 mics. That shit was an instant classic in my eyes.

[@TheWolvesDen]

Big Willie Style is a solid project still.

[@TrapNerdMusic]

This is the most influential discussion on Hip Hop and Rap that I have ever watched. Hands down.

[@MrSayWhatIThink23]

AZ, Game, Lloyd Banks, Redman all underrated just to name a few

[@shauncameron8390]

Lloyd Banks is a poor man's Fabolous.

[@TollFree999]

Scarface is highly under appreciated.

[@detox2778]

Royce killed eminem on his own shit several times , Royce deserves a hat in the ring

[@MFSGamePlay]

Alexander Eastwood yeah, bad meets evil was why I like him more.. he's very good.

[@JohnDoe-tr1cx]

Royce will never escape Em's Shadow

[@eminemfan2636]

Hard for Royce cos he can’t get out of ems shadow

[@parmar__12]

Detox 2 it was always equal Perfectly balanced they both snapped

[@sxxxlt]

They say I'm rappin' like BIG, Jay, and 2pac Andre 3000 where is Eryka Badu at? Who that? Who that said they goin' beat Lil Wayne?

[@ortiztheinfamous2771]

Bass Boost Mobile my name ain't bic but I keep that flame

[@Walruskinz]

Bass Boost Mobile Wayne's probably 2nd for me overall and definitely top 10, possibly top 5 lyrically. People underrate a lot of Wayne's work, new and old.

[@yesp9248]

Bass Boost Mobile Weezy the G.O.A.T

[@JohnDoe-tr1cx]

Franklin Clinton Wayne ran the game for years, and brought out drake and minaj, who are now running the game. And this is from 2006 to 2017, over a fucking decade of tunchi!! Wtf did Wu Tang do?

[@JohnDoe-tr1cx]

Franklin Clinton Wayne has lyrics for days, look how big his fucking discography is! Not to mention he drops metaphors and punchlines in almost every single bar. He doesn't rap about the troubles of life as often as other rappers, but that's not all hip hop is for. And it's definitely not all people want to listen to. He does still get a couple of those in though. Listen to "trouble", "nightmares of the bottom", "mirrors", or the entire carter 3 album. He has lyrics, much more than people give him credit for.

[@joshs5843]

I think Kool Keith is extremely underrated. Sure, his discography is not all A+ material, but he also has like ~20 albums over FOUR decades. Always bringing interesting new concepts, the different personas, pioneered the horrorcore/sci-fi raps, not to mention being part of Ultramagnetic MCs. He can spit in several different styles, and is definitely not afraid to go completely left field which brings a lot of influence .

[@unknownstigma892]

thank you!! for shouting out Lupe another greats you forgot to mention is gangstarr and big L. Pun and his crazy lyrics

[@codetheartist]

Kendrick Lamar isn't goat. He just has less competition as a lyricist. Big Sean shits on Kendrick

[@DoubleRRslimm]

PAC is always #1

[@tupacshakur3745]

I'm flattered

[@deathitself6985]

Tupac Shakur Dude plz

[@benster62]

I wish you could haha react KZbin comments

[@fromonelegendtoanother6404]

I strongly disagree.

[@ghettoasfuckxp]

@@tupacshakur3745 never

[@matttraverso4592]

my top 10, with a loose order, easy to switch around nas andre 3k jay-z pac scarface biggie rakim kendrick em MF DOOM if any of you think i'm missing anyone, tell me

[@RickyMud]

Matt Traverso Aesop

[@meeksman2488]

I mostly agree

[@rockster0192]

DJ quik,

[@Laurie12SlimShady]

big l, big pun, wu tang, redman all better than biggie and scarface imo but it's all preference

[@jordanrobinson8572]

Arsenal K he's tries to be corny on purpose he does it so people like you say shit like that. it's what makes his career 😂

[@OmegaSunsLight]

Articulation, wittiness, cadence, motivation, wordplay, record making, and creativity does "The G.O.A.T" make.

[@demetricesrkidd7256]

Pac

[@Dcypha69]

this is better than everyday struggle , love how they let each other speak and acknowledge without interrupting

[@bubabuba3848]

MY TOP 6 with Jay z, Pac, Weez, Andre 300, Em, Drake

[@ninadganore]

Wayne up there

[@OtherworldlyMedia]

I think this whole conversation would flow much better if Jude sat down a sec to listen to DAMN.

[@nosrac3339]

dio-03 GKMC* kendricks best hip hop album

[@lovelyla85]

dio-03 exactly !!!😔

[@OtherworldlyMedia]

Opinions on which album is best, or if the album is good, are relative, but Jude in no moment has actually heard the effin album. All his arguments are moot, cause he's just imagining what the album may or may not sound like.

[@henrymccallion1986]

DAMN is K-dots worst album

[@whyisleohere]

1. Eminem2. Nas3. PAC4. Biggie 5. Rakim6. Jay Z7. Kendrick8. Kanye west9. Dmx10. Dr dre

[@Truthouzndonthate]

The Notorious Makaveli Dre? As a producer of course, as a rapper (over Cube, Quik, Kurupt, etc...) never

[@regulatorsmountup4931]

Dre is not a rapper

[@ninadganore]

Kanye does write shit

[@ninadganore]

Lil wayne the goat

[@goldtamadrummer]

I could listen to Justin's conversations all day

[@jdavfnln]

Az is so underrated he doesn't get mentioned in underrated conversations

[@djaga_one]

Everyone has their favorite "time" of the day. there is NO greatest time of the day. You can't say blue, yellow or green is the best color. It's all intertwined and part of eachother and can't co-excist without eachother.

[@r.mcdaniel]

Can anyone give me a legitimate reason as to why MF DOOM isn't a consistent candidate for G.O.A.T. status in Rap/Hip Hop?

[@mattb121395]

Cj Mac the only thing I can say is his album sales. And that's completely unfair cause the man is as influential as anybody in the game

[@Anthonydu01630]

Because nobody listen to him, simple. For me you cant put an u derground rapper in the GOAT conversation, if you are underground, especialy in this day and age with social media internet ect, it mean you dont have that X factor, you dont have originality, charisma, energy ... Mf doom is an amazing lyricist his lyrics are way more complicated than eminem or nas but man i dont even understand what he mean sometimes it look like he just put big word that rhyme but it make no sense ... He is a good lyricist, not a good rapper.

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Stop where the hits @

[@urbaezpablo]

Pac Big Em Nas Rakim jay z 50 cent Lil Wayne Big L Kendrick

[@shebettelewis9067]

I respect your list!

[@Ghost_Nava]

Great conversations overall

[@enanvigil]

I really look forward to these types of debates.you all respect each other and disagree... what a fucking concept now a days. Keep these coming. Respect