Why The Best Rappers Are Over 40: The Over The Hill Gang Theory

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@Lasheem
@Lasheem 7 жыл бұрын
“Timeless, so age don’t count in the booth, when your flow stays submerged in the fountain of youth” - RAKIM (Classic Verse 2007)
@romant142
@romant142 7 жыл бұрын
Coltrane He’s the Goat
@hucklebk
@hucklebk 6 жыл бұрын
Boom.
@ianlaing4935
@ianlaing4935 6 жыл бұрын
@@romant142 1000% Rakim - The goat
@vbcvcb
@vbcvcb 6 жыл бұрын
How could he forget about rakim?!?
@jeffreyjeffrey2263
@jeffreyjeffrey2263 5 жыл бұрын
Plsss someone explain english is not my native frrr explain
@WaterVaper12
@WaterVaper12 7 жыл бұрын
How ya'll forget about A Tribe Called Quest?
@fusionn4316
@fusionn4316 5 жыл бұрын
ATCQ is no longer a group.
@RyanMichero
@RyanMichero 5 жыл бұрын
They talked about older rappers that passed but didn't mention Pfife. 🙁
@josedarosa3442
@josedarosa3442 5 жыл бұрын
For real!!
@TheDreserDeviant69
@TheDreserDeviant69 5 жыл бұрын
Redman
@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154
@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 7 жыл бұрын
Rappers 40+ are much more lyrically inclined than those of a younger era because it used to be damn near a necessity to rap very well before even gettin in the game
@sonojah
@sonojah 7 жыл бұрын
Darrel Be THIS!!!!! PREACH!!!!! You can drop the mic on this one.
@thatnewpimptrickgangstacli8922
@thatnewpimptrickgangstacli8922 7 жыл бұрын
Darrel Be thats because its more accessible now and people will listen to anything. Back then you had to actually go out to a record store and buy the physical copy of an album. So you had to be competitive and an actual good rapper for anyone to think it was worth actually going out to buy your album. So rap was at its peak because being a good lyricist was essential to survive in the industry
@yoitsgiook
@yoitsgiook 7 жыл бұрын
Best, and most clear, simple answer.
@alondathomas293
@alondathomas293 6 жыл бұрын
So true, so true.
@donaldryan4876
@donaldryan4876 6 жыл бұрын
Darrel Be used to be a way of hyping a dj. Then the mc took the Frontline. Now it's reversed in my eyes, cept the old heads and new Tru mcs
@jameswhite4709
@jameswhite4709 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Dylan = the original mumble rapper
@aidenwood2273
@aidenwood2273 7 жыл бұрын
James White 💀💀💀💀
@orbit4072
@orbit4072 7 жыл бұрын
James White TRUE!!
@legogore911
@legogore911 7 жыл бұрын
Dead
@goodtimesasaurus
@goodtimesasaurus 7 жыл бұрын
amy whinehouse
@johnsmith5669
@johnsmith5669 7 жыл бұрын
Talkin like Bob Dylan don't got dope lyrics. Psh
@thea5ylum676
@thea5ylum676 7 жыл бұрын
Murs I'm glad you're the one that they had to take over the breakdown you're doing an amazing job respect and love fam
@yanmendesofficial
@yanmendesofficial 9 ай бұрын
Now we are in 2024 and Killer Mike just won a few Grammys 🏆 "they told me you're too old to make music, they told me you're too old to win Grammy...."
@mikedabeast360
@mikedabeast360 7 жыл бұрын
Dope shit man. I just wanna see a Part 2 w/ Wu-Tang Clan, Nas, Ice Cube, DMX, Scarface, Bun B, Andre 3000, Big Boi, Busta Rhymes, Redman, Styles P, Cam'ron, Ma$e, Common, MF DOOM, etc.... Rappers over 40 that still are great.
@jebadeia
@jebadeia 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, at the end of the video I was like “Dafuq, no Wu!?”
@TheCompton1963
@TheCompton1963 6 жыл бұрын
xXNYBeAsT360Xx 2 $hort !!!!!!
@cm0132
@cm0132 7 жыл бұрын
Where is Wu-Tang Clan? Still a dope vid keep making more, love from Holland.
@mariothrowsfireballsuntitl1841
@mariothrowsfireballsuntitl1841 7 жыл бұрын
Or bone thugs n harmony
@ronaldmunoz2411
@ronaldmunoz2411 7 жыл бұрын
Almost Mexican this user handle is the best account name ever. Shit has me rollin. Fucking dead. 😂😂😂
@bweizee
@bweizee 7 жыл бұрын
Almost Mexican Big hit right here soundcloud.com/bennett-tran/hurtinallthetime
@Nomarandus
@Nomarandus 6 жыл бұрын
That's who i thought he was going to mention but ended up saying De La soul
@erwincanaya7787
@erwincanaya7787 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 20 and agree completely, but would've liked a tribe mention
@Inspirmentalist
@Inspirmentalist 7 жыл бұрын
rap truly is an artform. im only 31 and i produce beats still and have been since i was 19. maybe ill have bettee luck in my 40s lmao.
@aidenwood2273
@aidenwood2273 7 жыл бұрын
Inspirmentalist lol nice ad
@ErikGiovani
@ErikGiovani 7 жыл бұрын
Inspirmentalist you just earned a sub
@mundhiromar1356
@mundhiromar1356 7 жыл бұрын
Inspirmentalist keep it up fam
@jarodmoodley7925
@jarodmoodley7925 7 жыл бұрын
Inspirmentalist ANND I'm the 40th like to your comment and before I Could lay this reply , there was *4* replies to it , *ILLUMINATI* *CONFIRMED* ! ! ! ! HOLD ON TIGHT , YOU FINNA MAKE IT as SOON as you hit the BiG *40* . . . .
@kacheBarbershop2
@kacheBarbershop2 7 жыл бұрын
Inspirmentalist shit hmu let’s work 516-207-9662
@Sneakerveli
@Sneakerveli 7 жыл бұрын
Ghostface Killah & MF Doom💯 Too Short... R.I.P. Prodigy
@victoriaappiagei1482
@victoriaappiagei1482 6 жыл бұрын
common dope best ever real hip-hop
@jonnayboi46
@jonnayboi46 7 жыл бұрын
Malik Izaak Taylor aka "The Trini Gladiator" aka "Phife Dawg" of A Tribe Called Quest deserves a shout out here. Even tho he had only come back to Tribe before his passing in 2016. R.I.P.
@soberhippy8240
@soberhippy8240 7 жыл бұрын
murs lowkey made this vid because he's turning 40 in a few months
@jew-tangclan8855
@jew-tangclan8855 7 жыл бұрын
Bruh I low key thought he was a wizard who was like 1000 years old; that’s wild if he’s only 40
@soberhippy8240
@soberhippy8240 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, hes a black Gandalf
@MursTv
@MursTv 7 жыл бұрын
Sober Hippy damnit!!! Thought no one would pick up in that!
@KidErkwon
@KidErkwon 7 жыл бұрын
forreal Murs only started looking that way recently. in 2015 he still had a small fro and a goatee on his album cover and looked youthful af
@Island_God
@Island_God 7 жыл бұрын
KidErkwon he look like a yeti with a black out kit.
@dominicene3647
@dominicene3647 5 жыл бұрын
The fact there's more rappers over 40 still producing music bodes well for the future of hip hop culture and benefits the consumer with more variety. Hip hop is not dying and here to stay.
@FlyyScience
@FlyyScience 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot about Nas!!!!
@j3fr576
@j3fr576 7 жыл бұрын
Flyy Science he talkin bout ppl who still makin music
@nuuhmohamud8098
@nuuhmohamud8098 7 жыл бұрын
J3FR fuck u talkin about nas is still makin music
@IllDawgable
@IllDawgable 7 жыл бұрын
Flyy Science your channel seems lit Imma check those videos out as soon as I'm done with this one
@FlyyScience
@FlyyScience 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Please give me any feedback you have!! :)
@_k.i.dsmoove_1860
@_k.i.dsmoove_1860 6 жыл бұрын
NoiseFeedMusic my nigga did you hear nas album that dropped recently
@grahamarms8247
@grahamarms8247 7 жыл бұрын
Where is Redman, Nas, or 3 stacks?
@chas3ton
@chas3ton 4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Nas because he gets compared to his debut
@RicardoRamos-lq3db
@RicardoRamos-lq3db 4 жыл бұрын
@@chas3ton OR THE GAME
@chas3ton
@chas3ton 4 жыл бұрын
realraptuga yup, The Game keeps getting compared to The Documentary even though I really enjoyed his last album
@brynellsidney3983
@brynellsidney3983 7 жыл бұрын
Good job for mentioning Prophets Of Rage and De La, but you could have mentioned: Wu Tang, Redman, Scarface, NORE (Drink Champs), MC Eiht, Big Boi, ATCQ, and all the rappers who have appeared on the SUCCESSFUL I Love The 90's tour. A part 2 is NEEDED!
@betchaker21
@betchaker21 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you can make this breakdown without talking about the Tribe. ATCQ dropped an album last year which, IMO, is in their top 3 albums they've ever put out. Not only is it critically acclaimed like most tribe albums, but it also sold heaps and was only their second album to top the charts. They also managed to fit in features from their old-head friends like busta, Kwali, Andre 3000 and consequence (all of which you didn't mention either) as well as current up and comers like .Paak and Kendrick.
@tdubasdfg
@tdubasdfg 7 жыл бұрын
TRUTH ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
@SirusYO586
@SirusYO586 7 жыл бұрын
love it, feeling it, mos def, fat joe, Nas was forgotten but time constraints there really are too many to mention when i was a kid that was unheard of
@kharrington5268
@kharrington5268 7 жыл бұрын
bernard edmonds right? Where the fuck is Nas and Fat Joe? That is crazy
@ScotchiddyScotch
@ScotchiddyScotch 7 жыл бұрын
This was a real educational and well thought out video. Learned a lot, Murs is doin some homework.
@krishan8010
@krishan8010 7 жыл бұрын
Wu Tang???!!!
@krishan8010
@krishan8010 7 жыл бұрын
Freelance Philosopher I know, that's why I'm saying it, If he knows wu tang and supposedly likes them, why doesn't he cover them at all??
@stanspliff92
@stanspliff92 7 жыл бұрын
Krishan Tara at least he mentioned meth.
@Mecca4BA
@Mecca4BA 7 жыл бұрын
Krishan Tara Wu would be an episode by itself.
@brice3513
@brice3513 7 жыл бұрын
Man, Murs, I missed your Saturday breakdowns. Good to have you back. Dope content again.
@jew-tangclan8855
@jew-tangclan8855 7 жыл бұрын
Pusha T and Juicy J are the two most impressive to me, because there are casual fans of the genre, like new fans or just pop fans, who genuinely think Juicy J and Pusha are new artists. Like people have no idea about Clipse and Three6, because Pusha and Juicy have put out genuine modern bangers. Also Run The Jewels run is crazy, so happy for Killer and El gettin the recognition they deserve.
@Teece007
@Teece007 7 жыл бұрын
Jew-Tang Clan very true
@MursTv
@MursTv 7 жыл бұрын
Jew-Tang Clan ur right the re-invention going on is crazy! And with streaming popping off like it is the new fans get to play catch up for free it just rolls right into the artist’s older material
@romant142
@romant142 7 жыл бұрын
Very true
@binbintrashtin
@binbintrashtin 7 жыл бұрын
I know Aesop Rock was only 39 when The Impossible Kid dropped but that coupled with the EP he did with Homeboy Sandman, “Triple Fat Lice” proves to me that he still has a lot left to give.
@musiking1016
@musiking1016 7 жыл бұрын
So how can u forget NaS
@NamesZKP
@NamesZKP 5 жыл бұрын
@Raghib Ali It was aight
@heyalun
@heyalun 5 жыл бұрын
@@NamesZKP yeah, I was thinking about Nas. The problem is that since his first 2-3 albums he's hit and miss. When he hits, it's clear why he's one of the GOATs, but he misses A LOT
@NamesZKP
@NamesZKP 5 жыл бұрын
@@heyalun Yeah his first mistake was letting Koonye produce his beats and influence him. Secondly, he doesn't have his ear to the streets anymore. He lost the voice of the people a long time ago.
@DominateNG
@DominateNG 7 жыл бұрын
Run the MUTHAFUCKIN' Jewels
@ronaldmunoz2411
@ronaldmunoz2411 7 жыл бұрын
Dominate NG preach!
@allentastic
@allentastic 7 жыл бұрын
CAME HERE FOR THIS
@centralscrutinizer66
@centralscrutinizer66 5 жыл бұрын
My Boyz!
@dacypher22
@dacypher22 5 жыл бұрын
Their whole story is pretty crazy. They spent their entire careers bubbling right under major success. But they were getting older and Killer Mike has even talked about how he felt like his shot was over and he just didn't make it to be a major act. Then they met and formed Run the Jewels and both of them took off in their late 30's to heights neither of them had ever seen before. Oh, and Adult Swim is who put them together, so that is nuts as well.
@JayHill1995
@JayHill1995 7 жыл бұрын
Pharrell honestly deserves his own video at this point. He hasn't stopped since Rump Shaker
@uploadvidz4490
@uploadvidz4490 5 жыл бұрын
In fact, he's taken it to new levels
@Followdadot
@Followdadot 7 жыл бұрын
Pac and Biggie wudda been well over 40 had they not passed, and we are still getting remastered music from them. In some cases some shit i aint even heard from Pac
@romant142
@romant142 7 жыл бұрын
charles teverbaugh it’s crazy how much he made
@justin92510
@justin92510 7 жыл бұрын
Murs is a good host i must say
@kingfrank01
@kingfrank01 7 жыл бұрын
Because he's a real head.
@whyme8848
@whyme8848 7 жыл бұрын
Hey I REALLY REALLY need a breakdown on NaS, and how he chaged hiphop
@maxlevin6167
@maxlevin6167 7 жыл бұрын
+100
@terrellcuevo2369
@terrellcuevo2369 7 жыл бұрын
Check out the Documentary "Time Is Illmatic"-it'll break it all down for ya G. 1
@whyme8848
@whyme8848 7 жыл бұрын
Terrell Cuevo i already saw it but still i think nas deserves a own breakdown, cus when it comes to talking about the greats the mainstream only mentions big pac and maybe em, if u ask me nas is better than all of those legends
@akumthrillmatic6210
@akumthrillmatic6210 5 жыл бұрын
Murs hardly speaks of Nas, I don't know if it's hate or what
@SoulOfTheSouth
@SoulOfTheSouth 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Murs. Jay Z didn’t release 4:44 at age 45. He was 47. He just recently turned 48 on December 4th.
@mozuesolympian2988
@mozuesolympian2988 7 жыл бұрын
He didnt even go platinum. He cheated the system. He flopped
@ericsmusic5927
@ericsmusic5927 7 жыл бұрын
^ Hov is a legend, he don't need it
@mozuesolympian2988
@mozuesolympian2988 7 жыл бұрын
+Ultra Mega Hype Beast it was good bit just like drake so gs are « good » which is really a understatement for this album, you don’t get my respect off of the work of other people or by cheating the system. Either way, it still went floppy disc
@LexRuger718
@LexRuger718 7 жыл бұрын
Mozues Olympian Jay using technology so you're mad? Prince charge extra at his show and gave away his CD. The extra charge counted as record sales. Jay basically did the same.
@jeffreyrezendes7656
@jeffreyrezendes7656 7 жыл бұрын
The loss of Sean Price was truly unfortunate. Those who had been following his career know that his skills were on a constant upward trend. Sometimes I wonder what unique and irreplaceable dopeness a 50/60/70 year-old Sean Price might have dropped.
@Brenden667
@Brenden667 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Sean P!
@jeffeckberg4099
@jeffeckberg4099 5 жыл бұрын
P!!!
@KtotheG
@KtotheG 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer 40+ year old rappers because they tend to have the most insightful, real talk content. Yo Murs, how do you leave off cats like Common, Scarface, Big Boi, Devin the Dude, Kurupt and Talib Kweli? They're over 40 and still making dope music.
@vernellthomas6644
@vernellthomas6644 7 жыл бұрын
I forgot about Kurupt but yeah I think he didn’t have enough time....now I want to hear an album from 8 Ball & MJG
@ronaldmunoz2411
@ronaldmunoz2411 7 жыл бұрын
Mos Def no longer existing is probably one of the reasons for not mentioning that mastermind. In any case, mos def, yasiin bey, hell he could call himself dubby tubby king beary bubbly cub if he so chose to, and imma still listen. Despite the alias he identifies with, he is one of the GOATs.
@vernellthomas6644
@vernellthomas6644 7 жыл бұрын
ronald munoz Facts!!!
@arios1977
@arios1977 7 жыл бұрын
Because in our generation, we didn’t have to bite each others style to stay relevant and still said something at the same time.
@pradabears
@pradabears 4 жыл бұрын
you sure? fu-schickens bit off of das fx, and onyx used to bite black moon.
@arios1977
@arios1977 4 жыл бұрын
Jexx not necessarily. Only once guy on fushnikins wrapped super fast and really couldn’t understand him. He was dope tho. Das FX was dope also, but they weren’t as fast and both of them rapped like that but you could understand them. But they sounded nothing alike. You knew who they were and which was which. Now everyone mumbles in auto tune and sounds the same with the same exact beat. Can’t tell them a paper
@arios1977
@arios1977 4 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Alexander Killens you mentioned Kanye and he’s a rock star with dragon power. You comment on hip hop is automatically invalid. Now you got samples and you got straight using the same beat, same rhythm and same flow for every song now, mumbling on that damn auto tune. That’s not inspiration, that’s straight biting. And yes, rap is poetry. No one does that now.
@marcep1078
@marcep1078 7 жыл бұрын
WU TANG still the greatest rap group ever!
@aidenwood2273
@aidenwood2273 7 жыл бұрын
Marce' Pierre icp
@chainlace2
@chainlace2 7 жыл бұрын
Marce' Pierre Agreed
@eliazarperez3585
@eliazarperez3585 7 жыл бұрын
I say NWA
@TonySummerz
@TonySummerz 7 жыл бұрын
Marce' Pierre Yep!!! 👐
@kingfrank01
@kingfrank01 7 жыл бұрын
Wu, OutKast, Tribe, and De La Soul are definitely on that list.
@hectorchavez1589
@hectorchavez1589 7 жыл бұрын
Murs love your stuff, but how could you miss Tribe’s new album or Nas?!?
@ImJohnnyMajor
@ImJohnnyMajor 7 жыл бұрын
Just noticed the parappa the rapper case in the back. Glad to know Murs knows who the God MC is lol
@nicktaylor5952
@nicktaylor5952 6 жыл бұрын
Kick, Punch, it's all in the mind...
@Primophobic
@Primophobic 7 жыл бұрын
can't believe y'all left out raekwon
@hucklebk
@hucklebk 6 жыл бұрын
The GOD
@monsterwith21faces92
@monsterwith21faces92 3 жыл бұрын
The chef
@1724kingcobra
@1724kingcobra 7 жыл бұрын
Tech N9ne didn't get enough love in this vid.
@mydogsnameislucy768
@mydogsnameislucy768 7 жыл бұрын
Davion Maxwell At least he got mentioned. Snubbed Rugged Man, Redman, Ghostface, Inpectah Deck (especially in Czarface) DOOM, Kool Keith and others.
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 5 жыл бұрын
You suck
@santimedina4443
@santimedina4443 5 жыл бұрын
Dino velvet how
@santimedina4443
@santimedina4443 5 жыл бұрын
Davion Maxwell he never gets enough love
@Manjunn
@Manjunn 7 жыл бұрын
By far my most favourite video by Murs. I'm a huge fan of older music, and all the OG's that has appeared in this vid, definitely lights a fire for me.
@Sneakerking703
@Sneakerking703 7 жыл бұрын
Hip Hop really isn’t that old of genre. Especially compared to other genres. As you mentioned rock stars still get busy in their 60s so as Rap ages it’ll be dope to see these rappers still making music. Whether they are the best or not is doesn’t matter to me if they still making music I enjoy.
@harvident5703
@harvident5703 7 жыл бұрын
Sneakerhead703 i feel you..hip hop is young enough for us to still shape how we want the culture to be
@NoQualmsTheArtist
@NoQualmsTheArtist 7 жыл бұрын
Sugar Hill Gang dropped in 1979. Yo, it’s been around for a while 🤔
@alondathomas293
@alondathomas293 6 жыл бұрын
Hell, you got a lot of jazz musicians who are in their seventies and still performing, so there's that. b
@Zakmmr
@Zakmmr 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Not like the Rolling Stones or Bob Dylan are putting out their best work these days either, but theyre still legends.
@gnarwhal7562
@gnarwhal7562 7 жыл бұрын
Simple. They all flourished in the golden age of hip-hop
@dylandruryformerlyyungjabb3913
@dylandruryformerlyyungjabb3913 7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the whole Wu-Tang Clan especially inspectah deck and what he's doing with Czarface killing it
@betchaker21
@betchaker21 7 жыл бұрын
The main reason why people feel like these old cats aint got nothing to give is because of the way that hip hop is different to rock. Rap and hip-hop has always been about a fresh perspective and giving a voice to the voiceless, and as such, the community has always searched for the younger emcees because they have this fresh perspective that no-one in the mainstream has heard before. Hip-hop has always been about what's next and what's new. Nowadays, because hip-hop fans have started to age, we've got this new idea though. That the new shit isn't as good as the old shit. This has been made even more powerful by the internet not only allowing wack rappers to get a stage, but making all the good old shit easily accessible for everyone. This leads to these over-40 cats to still hold, and in some cases, even create more fame for themselves despite their prime years being behind them. 10 years ago, the list would have been much shorter because the belief that the old shit was better wasn't as prevailing in the main-stream as it is now, as well as because a lot of these rappers that made it in the 90s weren't over 40 yet. if you look at a lot of those careers tho, most of their lowest selling and in some cases worst music came in that period where they didnt have their old popularity, or their newfound resurgence of popularity.
@MrWorldfamous23
@MrWorldfamous23 7 жыл бұрын
Isaac Calabrese I don't understand. Are you saying that once you turn 40 you no longer have a voice?? Here in America the black struggle is the black struggle to the death. Anything we do at any age is a reflection of The Culture. OUR CULTURE. There are millions of black ppl that are over 40 who feel like they are voiceless. STILL. Who speaks for them? Surely you can't a kid born in the mid 90's to be that voice. Or are you saying that Hip-Hop can no longer be that mouth piece for them at that age? The black ppl who were there at it's creation or shortly after. Who grew up right along the elements and the music. Now should be unceremoniously told to go away? 🤔
@betchaker21
@betchaker21 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that once you turn 40 you don't have a voice, I'm saying that hip-hop has historically been about new and fresh perspectives. This is what differs it from other genre's like rock because allowing an artist to repeat themselves for 30 years is frowned upon. Often someone who has been in the game for ~20 years doesn't have that fresh perspective because they've already allowed that to play out in their music. This is especially the case if they have already had some amount of success previously, because they have spent a lot of their recent life living with money and fame and disconnected from the street. This of course is never 100% the case and there is definitely a place for the older cats to have a spot in hip hop, especially as the fans age, but the day when the genre stops looking for new talent with fresh perspectives is the day the genre starts to die and go stagnant. This has happened historically with most other genres. Rock fans stopped looking for new perspectives and now it is a fragmented culture with some clinging to only the older artists and the newer voices not really being able to break into the mainstream because of it. This isn't something I think anyone wants for hip hop because without this culture thats been cultivated, we would be without the talents of many amazing young artists.
@dice268926
@dice268926 7 жыл бұрын
No its the White industry that plays Hip-Hop, we control the movements they own & control the industry's. Every Hip-Hop award has always been looked down at since the 90s til now. We need artist in control of B.E.T., Ebony, etc & build institutions. What happened 2 106? Source? Rap City? Etc? BUT TRL back getting money off Hip-Hop artist giving back to the white owners who deny equality in institutional ownership. (CMT awards broadcast on national tv, Black music which is most music only on cable) PAY ATTENTION
@Minoritynomad
@Minoritynomad 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a matter of thinking the new shit isn't good. I think the issue is we can't relate to most of what these new rappers are talking about. Let's be honest, black folks weren't running around popping molly and wearing skirts like that. I grew up on Public Enemy, Tribe, Wu Tang, NAS, Pac, Big, Eminem, KRS-One. What under 30 artists are even close to touching these guys lyrically aside from say Kendrick, J.Cole, Big Sean, Tyler, Gambino, or Drake (31). Now i'll happily groove to new hip hop at the club. But I'm not listening to an album start to finish anymore.
@garveyg2083
@garveyg2083 7 жыл бұрын
Isaac Calabrese But now we giving the voice to the wrong people. Look at lil pump. be dont need a voice just saying 80 on my wrist hundred on my wrist over and over again. theres struggle. thats not fucking struggle
@DarkshadowXD63
@DarkshadowXD63 7 жыл бұрын
With age comes experience
@drnocka-rocksteady
@drnocka-rocksteady 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pwntacious
@pwntacious 7 жыл бұрын
Black Thought = GOAT.
@dn30001
@dn30001 7 жыл бұрын
Elie Baliss THEY DONT FUCKING HEAR YOU kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqPQgpqJpbtmnKM
@zblock8921
@zblock8921 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most slept on for years
@masterofthecraft1990
@masterofthecraft1990 6 жыл бұрын
Eminem = GOAT
@IT-fj1nx
@IT-fj1nx 6 жыл бұрын
Master Of The Craft no
@JB-mi3wb
@JB-mi3wb 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot Cube! Good Cop Bad Cop was fire
@averagebeetle
@averagebeetle 7 жыл бұрын
Only One Me was also very good Cube will always be Cube, the dude is amazing
@DefSquadFan
@DefSquadFan 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't like Good Cop Bad Cop but Cube can spit it when motivated. That I am the West album was fire.
@JohnSmith-yi9cp
@JohnSmith-yi9cp 7 жыл бұрын
Sea Pea u heard soc them youngins on them. I think thats the last good song from cube tbh
@Dave....
@Dave.... 7 жыл бұрын
This made me look at older people in a different light. Respect your elders folks.
@davewiens9692
@davewiens9692 7 жыл бұрын
FIFE DAWG!! I know he wasn't known as a lyricist or anything like that but he was solid on the mic and he and Q-tip did put out a great project. It's right up there, I'm still bumping that one. Such a groovy album with a strong message.
@iamthenight8683
@iamthenight8683 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't known as a lyricist?😂😂😂oh man that's a good one
@davewiens9692
@davewiens9692 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm not disrespecting, but Q-tip always got more credit than Fife.... genius.com/discussions/8591-The-source-top-50-lyricists-magazine-scans
@iamthenight8683
@iamthenight8683 6 жыл бұрын
Oh he gets his credit from the heads and it's phife not fife
@davewiens9692
@davewiens9692 6 жыл бұрын
My bad on the spelling. Keep in mind that I am giving him credit by saying that he SHOULD be on the list.
@elbueno833
@elbueno833 6 жыл бұрын
grew up in nyc back in the 80 and 90`s ,your channel is like a connection to the hip hop world I know , 1 from the dr .
@jammawun
@jammawun 7 жыл бұрын
That's dope and all, but I won't be a true believer until rappers over 40 start debuting. Coming into the game young and growing with your fans is only natural.
@smhgaming3259
@smhgaming3259 5 жыл бұрын
2 chainz..
@michaelclarke9651
@michaelclarke9651 4 жыл бұрын
“Rap isn’t a sport, at its best it’s an art, at its worst it’s a business.”🗣🗣
@brycekaminski9735
@brycekaminski9735 7 жыл бұрын
Tribe?
@QuankyFlacidFilms
@QuankyFlacidFilms 7 жыл бұрын
No?
@bweizee
@bweizee 7 жыл бұрын
Bryce Kaminski Big hit right here soundcloud.com/bennett-tran/hurtinallthetime
@kurtv7638
@kurtv7638 7 жыл бұрын
Triiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiibe
@benbolton123
@benbolton123 7 жыл бұрын
YES! I fucked with We Got It From Here.
@jasonlancaster3281
@jasonlancaster3281 7 жыл бұрын
a tribe called quest?
@scarfacemmm
@scarfacemmm 6 жыл бұрын
dude you are like the greatest hip-hop scholar I have ever heard... would love to see lists of greatest 100 rappers/albums of all time done by you
@rudy97johnson
@rudy97johnson 7 жыл бұрын
Y'all FORGOT about KRS ONE. His last joint was fire.
@romant142
@romant142 7 жыл бұрын
rudy johnson He’s not going to be popular anymore after those paedophile defending comments
@liftedpromusic
@liftedpromusic 5 жыл бұрын
over 40 and getting better every album : ROYCE 5 9
@seanfowler2356
@seanfowler2356 7 жыл бұрын
Where the FUCK is NAS???!!'
@mitchellmoroz9470
@mitchellmoroz9470 7 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays, been waiting on another breakdown for a minute!
@bweizee
@bweizee 7 жыл бұрын
Mitchell Moroz Big hit right here soundcloud.com/bennett-tran/hurtinallthetime
@nabihbarhouche6595
@nabihbarhouche6595 7 жыл бұрын
only reason i subscribed to hip hop dx
@tricky2055
@tricky2055 6 жыл бұрын
Your objective commentary and knowledge of music is outstanding. Hip Hop needs this. Fantastic!
@bentn13
@bentn13 7 жыл бұрын
Yo, how about tribe? Phife and Q-Tip, come on!
@FunkyD47
@FunkyD47 7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Tirone Nunes ikr
@jasonlancaster3281
@jasonlancaster3281 7 жыл бұрын
midnight maraders in my top 10 album's all time
@eternal0star
@eternal0star 6 жыл бұрын
We got it from here soooo fucking good.
@negropino17almost18
@negropino17almost18 6 жыл бұрын
You wanna make one of these videos? Can’t satisfy everybody.
@Jack-Lack
@Jack-Lack 6 жыл бұрын
Phife Diggy can no longer be counted among the talented, living rap elders; so maybe he's not the most on-point example.
@tdubasdfg
@tdubasdfg 7 жыл бұрын
In REAL HipHop we honor the OGs. There's always been a tradition of paying respects to those who come before you. I think it's the mainstream media brainwashing that's got people thinking that "you gotta be young to be a hot rapper". All the best rappers are the OGs! They the ones that's been doing this shit. In reality we only get like 1 or 2 REAL hot young rappers every year. The rest of the young guys and girls coming in are recyclables.
@marieaug9322
@marieaug9322 Жыл бұрын
To me its the singers too. Children that have no depth of experience that the things they sing dont really pull the heartstrings. Its why kids are into songs from the 70s and 80s. Artists whos albums are outselling new ones right now. Its amazing. They had kate bush and fleetwood mac charting because they were put on a tv show stranger things and kids ate it up.
@thomasgrove
@thomasgrove 7 жыл бұрын
Lyrically old heads are better as well. 50 said it though, none of this generation wants to hear any of that lyrical shit. The reason it may seem like they have "fallen off", but really they still growing personally, financially, and musically. The younger generation should show more respect. Whether or not my 16 year old cousin is actively listening to them is irrelevant, old heads still paved the way for this generations artists and are continuing to build that road day by day.
@chainlace2
@chainlace2 7 жыл бұрын
Thomas Grove That's like saying we didn't want to hear Isley Brothers,Commodores, Earth,Wind,and Fire. Music is an art and timeless that shouldn't be judged by the age of who's putting out good content as long as it's true to the art and their craft. That's the problem these kids don't understand music frequencies and its eternal.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with respect or showing it. That's irrelevant. Personally, as part of the younger generation you're bashing, I only really listen to the older generation because they're that much better lyrically and I don't know a single soul in my generation that listens to these new guys that are terrible rappers, but there must be some out there. But whenever rap or hip-hop comes up in conversation, those young guys don't ever come up unless it's somebody good like Kendrick or J. Cole.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
chainlace2, they do understand that shit. I guess they just like different things than you do.
@thomasgrove
@thomasgrove 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not bashing. Every generation can agree that there are two different types of rappers (for the most part). There are lyrical rappers and there are mumble rappers. Everyone can agree that people like Kendrick or J. Cole are the best lyrically, but I'll go back to my point that MOST of the current generation does not want to hear lyrical rap. They want to turn up and not have to digest every line being spit. It's interesting that you say you don't know a single person who listens to the new wave of rap when that's pretty much all that's played. Migos, 21 Savage, Kodak Black, Post Malone? Just want to make it a point that I listen to everyone. I enjoy both mumble and lyrical rap for different reasons.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever Hip-Hop is brought up, Migos, 21 Savage, Kodak Black, Post Malone are never really brought up. Maybe they do listen to them, but they've never shared that with me. Having listened to some of the mumble rappers, they don't seem to actually mumble. That's not a good term to use since they don't actually mumble. I can understand every word they're saying. They just have very little substance to their words whereas the older guys do tend to have more substance and nuance. I do agree that there seems to be more emphasis on the beat and the music than on the lyrics for some people.
@gambitwilson8623
@gambitwilson8623 7 жыл бұрын
Oh shit!!!!!! Bout time somebody talks about Run The Jewels. They are putting out some of the best music of the decade
@MartyMcFly__25
@MartyMcFly__25 7 жыл бұрын
Gambit Wilson they honestly might have 2-3 classic albums already
@ASedimentLife
@ASedimentLife 7 жыл бұрын
Love what you're doing! But when we gonna get a skateboarding/hiphop video?
@Trick-Framed
@Trick-Framed 5 жыл бұрын
You need to revisit this in 2019. It's gotten so much more important for people to understand. Growing up doesn't mean you need to change music taste.
@Juan_rivera
@Juan_rivera 7 жыл бұрын
You didn't talk about Ghostface????
@grumpee8432
@grumpee8432 7 жыл бұрын
Juan Rivera real rap
@bravoanane
@bravoanane 7 жыл бұрын
Being in a wheelchair “didnt seem like some old rapper shit” 😂😂😂 HILARIOUS!!
@juanpablomarcos3334
@juanpablomarcos3334 7 жыл бұрын
RIP MCA. You gotta do a video on the Beastie Boys. Paul's Boutique is one of the best rap albums of all time
@vernellthomas6644
@vernellthomas6644 7 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine how many samples were used on Paul’s Boutique...classic album
@robertjavorek1661
@robertjavorek1661 7 жыл бұрын
MURS .... Thank you for giving my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE rapper and most under-appreciated lyricist in the rap game...Mr. Purple Haze, Chief of the Chinchilla Coat, Captain of LaffyTaffy Range Rover himself...KILLA... I Wasn’t expecting to find him in this Breakdown... But Damn, Murs; you just stepped up to a higher branch on my tree of respect with this one. Hats off to you, Sir.
@justinhughes619
@justinhughes619 7 жыл бұрын
Wu Tang Forever
@bhamden84
@bhamden84 7 жыл бұрын
So pumped that you added RTJ to this, they've been hitting homeruns every time up.
@shabazz7776
@shabazz7776 7 жыл бұрын
Did he even mention Nas?? Half the conversation should be Jay-Z, Nas, Raekwon etc.. Smh
@thotcocoa4000
@thotcocoa4000 7 жыл бұрын
Shabazz 7:77 when is the last time nas released a song. homies album has been in the making for a decade now
@ericsmusic5927
@ericsmusic5927 7 жыл бұрын
^
@Lumbrett
@Lumbrett 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! As an 18 year old, most of the rappers that I've grown up listening to are entering their 30s (Kendrick/Drake/Cole/Gambino/Wayne) & it's crazy to think that it won't be long until they are viewed as older rappers. I feel like all of them will still be releasing great music if they don't plan to have early retirements.
@hakim6158
@hakim6158 7 жыл бұрын
Murs always be giving barbershop gibberish structure and making it sound plausible
@Brosenbrose
@Brosenbrose 7 жыл бұрын
I turned 39 two months ago and have mad appreciation for this list and everyone who's on it. To me, the Black Thought cypher was not only my introduction to the man, but was my top hip hop moment of 2017!
@ShadowedAgony
@ShadowedAgony 7 жыл бұрын
no wu-tang????
@kevinandrewski4664
@kevinandrewski4664 7 жыл бұрын
Method Man??? He was with Black Thought.
@sjshoker
@sjshoker 7 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason why the over 40 rappers can be successful is the subject matter. They don't have to be trying to make radio music or rap about drugs anymore because they already did that. They are still rapping because they truly love the craft, and don't need to focus on the business anymore unlike the younger rappers signed to major labels who need their music played at parties and at clubs.
@Givethxxx
@Givethxxx 6 жыл бұрын
sjshoker True! They have made their money and probably have their own labels etc. Been there done that! More wisdom and knowledge with age!!
@MrCbwTV
@MrCbwTV 7 жыл бұрын
Good Break down!!
@anthonybarela94
@anthonybarela94 7 жыл бұрын
You know De La Soul is one of the best rap groups ever when my 14 year old told me 3 Feet High & Rising is one of the best albums he’d ever listened to.
@FauxTitle
@FauxTitle 7 жыл бұрын
No mention of ghostface or DOOM
@MursTv
@MursTv 7 жыл бұрын
Faux Title i feel you it was already too long so the criteria was those with new albums since 2015. And then it was so long I still had to cut. When I started the concept I had no idea how long this list was. Love Ghost and Doom and Mos and Jay Elec , Evidence and Alchemist of course all of Wu etc... I NEED 30 Minutes!!! Lol Would y’all watch the whole thing?
@ArtisanWindchimes
@ArtisanWindchimes 7 жыл бұрын
MursTv I would watch
@tonebone2284
@tonebone2284 7 жыл бұрын
@MursTv Yessir, we would!
@zedbraun6498
@zedbraun6498 7 жыл бұрын
MursTv been feeling this. These feel compressed and this is one of many topics that could GREATLY be expanded on.
@DALOk-cm5tk
@DALOk-cm5tk 7 жыл бұрын
MursTv yea
@Jpizzle011
@Jpizzle011 7 жыл бұрын
Ice cube??
@kingfrank01
@kingfrank01 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@dmeth101
@dmeth101 7 жыл бұрын
If sleeping on cube you must not know your rap history
@cringedon7440
@cringedon7440 6 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@68daking68
@68daking68 7 жыл бұрын
Could it be that the age over 25 group relate more to the over 40 rappers since they are a dying breed when it comes to lyrics, thus they keep on staying relevant and the younger group under 25 appreciate more the beats and bass?
@aidenwood2273
@aidenwood2273 7 жыл бұрын
68daking68 if you think lyricists are a dying bread you're only listening to mainstream music
@68daking68
@68daking68 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I was talking about the ones that were able to go mainstream.
@reidbtable
@reidbtable 6 жыл бұрын
The smartest Hip Hop debate/histoy show...PERIOD!!!!
@thecartruthreport8451
@thecartruthreport8451 7 жыл бұрын
Kids don't have any money, and don't buy albums anyways. 1 older fan is worth more than 1 young fan IMO.
@xdbrown44
@xdbrown44 7 жыл бұрын
NO one BUYS albums.... but kids do STREAM the music a lot more then older fans.. just sayin..
@thecartruthreport8451
@thecartruthreport8451 7 жыл бұрын
I know a few people that actually buy albums. I agree about the streaming, but I am dubious about the 1500 views per sale metric.
@MursTv
@MursTv 7 жыл бұрын
the Car Truth Report wow. Strong point.
@thecartruthreport8451
@thecartruthreport8451 7 жыл бұрын
Love the show man!
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
You may dubious about that metric, but Kendrick Lamar has said that he has made WAY MORE money from streaming than he ever did with people actually buying stuff. Many other artists have said the same.
@BEBORN22
@BEBORN22 7 жыл бұрын
I am an old head at 41 and I may not agree all the time with Murs but his opinions are thought provoking and mostly agreeable and on point
@ministerservertavares4714
@ministerservertavares4714 7 жыл бұрын
Peace Murs, Nuff Respect for the DOPE work you're doing with HipHop DX... With that being said, I can't believe you didn't mention ANY members of the legendary Wu Tang Clan!! This year Raekwon dropped "The Wild", which in m opinion was his BEST work since Cuban links! KRS; Talib Kweli & Styles P and Public Enemy dropped quality Hip Hop albums too! Thanks for helping to keep OUR culture connected, stay focused and keep SHININ', Word!!!
@MursTv
@MursTv 7 жыл бұрын
Server Tavares we mentioned Meth. But I feelyou. I wrote a whole Rae part. I loved the Wild! But it got cut. Time. Lmk if y’all want longer content and I can have that convo with our team and the editorial staff. Peace and thank you for tuning in
@kelvin88keyes
@kelvin88keyes 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Murs for turning me onto Prophets of Rage, i didnt know about this project, Rage with Chuck D and B Real..i cant wait to hear this!
@faireenough1067
@faireenough1067 7 жыл бұрын
what about DOOM though?
@adriannanaya
@adriannanaya 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't even mention Producers still killing It too! Great video Murs
@yocampout
@yocampout 7 жыл бұрын
A list of songs in the db would be great. I love adding these artist to my playlist. I always find something new. Thank u
@henrymunoz9219
@henrymunoz9219 7 жыл бұрын
Good breakdown... But missing Public Enemy, KRS-ONE, Wise Intelligent, and Wu-Tang Clan!
@jacecontreras6203
@jacecontreras6203 7 жыл бұрын
No Cube? I just saw him at ACL in October with Dub C he ain’t slowing down at all.
@mcshawnboy
@mcshawnboy 5 жыл бұрын
Think where Easy E would be if he wasn't so into living the life!😞
@odyssey227
@odyssey227 7 жыл бұрын
The breakdown instrumental beat is so good please never change it
@rvizcaino7954
@rvizcaino7954 7 жыл бұрын
Royce da 5"9 clear miss. Check the Bar Exam 4
@Brenden667
@Brenden667 7 жыл бұрын
Yup. Been thinking about this exactly topic Murs. Not sure if it's because I'm turning 40 or maybe because the older hip-hop heads are the ones making the kind of hip-hop I still like, but either way, I agree. Murs still rules the world.
@harvident5703
@harvident5703 7 жыл бұрын
rappers in their 40 still relate ...plus we see the world different at 40 so our rappers still are relevant...hell hip hop is in its 40s as a genre
@vernellthomas6644
@vernellthomas6644 7 жыл бұрын
Another great segment Murs!!! Respect
@ChaseVevo2
@ChaseVevo2 7 жыл бұрын
There are rappers that are great that are 40 or over. However, claiming that these rappers are the most important or impactful isn't necessarily true. Talant, ambitilon and impact can exist for artists of many different ages and i think the real take away from this is that if you have the capability and ambition to make music age doesn't mean much.
@blindguitarfox
@blindguitarfox 7 жыл бұрын
We are pretty much seeing the first generation of older veterans and considering that half of the people in this video laid the foundation of what we listen to now it's not surprising that they are great!
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