HOW-TO Dial in your Motorcycle's Suspension DIY with Öhlins

[@simonbailey3970]

Hi, it’s good to know how to set the shocks up. I think the ohlins guy the wrong bike, he’s looking at the XC travel 200mm the XE is 250 mm so your sag should be 83mm so your not that far away. Check your hand book for the right numbers . Regards Simon

[@ThaMoondog]

Agree, the XE should have 250mm travel!!

[@BackDraftBikes]

This comment is worth it's weight in gold!

[@jimm2353]

I'm a MX guy. I was taught the first thing you do is set the free sag, meaning lift the rear end of the bike , check that measurement , the. let the rear end settle, check that measurement. The difference between the two is free sag and that distance should be around 20-30 mm. Then you follow the video. JimboMX311

[@rommelr12]

I think the full movement for xe is 250 not 200 so 1/3 should be 82.5 mm

[@d.Cog420]

yup. they must have been looking at the XC

[@charliestoybox2099]

Yeah they screwed that one up big time 😂

[@ctjanney]

This is absolute gold. Thank you. Just got a one of these honeys, and now I'm going to set it up.

[@chriscargle7645]

This is the wrong measurements

[@aandjcycles]

Joey is the best, he is our Ohlins rep

[@hoopsrides]

Help if super Joey worked with the right numbers to begin with, doesn't need new springs

[@scottwilson1887]

maybe it still needs new springs but not as far off as Joey mentioned. He inadvertently referenced the XC shock.

[@CCitis]

I am 260 pounds. Heavy springs are pretty cheap and easy to throw on the rear shocks.

[@Si_in_Finland]

Brilliant Video, thanks very much for taking the time to make this !

[@BackDraftBikes]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kimikimijoa]

Very very Usefull!🏍 Congrats Super Joey 😎 And thank you too share 🙏✌🏼

[@RonRonRoamer]

Awesome content this! Mine came out of whack from factory as well. No surprises there

[@t.d.nguyen7688]

Mega incredible post! Had no idea about the shocks from my factory new scram12 🙏🙏 👏thank you!!

[@BackDraftBikes]

No problem 👍

[@jaredcaccatore]

Great video dude! I've had my eye on that 1200 XE for a while now. So rad!

[@Davidrobertwhittaker]

Great video, thanks! Will go out and make sure my scrambler is set up properly too!

[@alexanderbruns8709]

Thanks for the video - I owned several bikes before the 1200 Scrambler XE, but thanks to your video I touched the suspension setup for the first time on my own and I am more than happy that I did. The rebound damping on my right rear shock was completely closed! I needed to use a pipe wrench to loosen the adjuster. The left side was opened only 2 clicks. The compression damping wasn’t completely off - only 2-3 clicks from official factory setting. Anyways, it shouldn’t be like that - obviously something is wrong with triumphs quality inspection. I also adjusted the preload and have about 80mm sag now (I am about 205 pound, 6’6 tall and adjusted without motorcycle gear on - so 80mm should be close to 83mm optimal setting) I am excited to test ride the bike tomorrow.

[@alexanderbruns8709]

Update after 250 miles - it’s a completely different bike, which is probably not surprising considering the fact that the suspension was basically out of function! For me as a sportive rider, now a perfect setup (following the standard values from the owners manual)

[@franckbeillard9103]

@@alexanderbruns8709 , so what is your weight (sorry for intimate question), and what are your adjustments? 14 and 17 as per the video? Thanks for answer!

[@alexanderbruns8709]

Franck Beillard im about 95kg with gear, 6.6 tall - I first followed the handbook instructions, later on I reduced by 2 or 3 klicks. Also I adjusted preload. Still love it. Recently swapped for TKC 80s. it seems they added some damping. However due to the sporty suspension it still feels crisp.

[@alexanderbruns8709]

Franck Beillard btw - I just saw i put in all the info on weight etc in the original post

[@tipaklong7073]

Awesome man, thanks a lot! Im going to try this in literally about 10 mins

[@BackDraftBikes]

Have fun!

[@williamkerry2626]

Can you please do a follow up review of this. Just the shocks? I saw your 1k review of the bike, and you kinda glanced over it, but a detailed overview would be appreciated.

[@BackDraftBikes]

William Kerry I will!

[@twin_traveler]

Very nice lesson dude !! Thx 🙏🏼

[@phillipmendoza593]

Great video!

[@AIgdebeli]

Super helpful thanks

[@danield831]

Thanks for an informative video! Does the 1/3 rule of thumb apply to all shocks/bikes or just off-road bikes? I had a set of Ohlins (Nitros) installed on my Triumph Bonnie T120 late last fall and when I had a chance to put it through it's paces recently I was not impressed. The back end just felt squirrelly and unstable in the corners. I bought the shocks as a step-up from the progressive shocks that were on there but I have to say (perhaps I should've' just left well enough alone) because that set-up handled really well. I hope I didn't waste $1,250 of my hard earned lol....I feel like, maybe with the right adjustment I can dial them in to a satisfactory handling, ride. Just not sure how. I had one tech tell me that purchasing and installing Ohlin-Nitro's is not necessarily "better" than the progressive's, just "different". Any feedback or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!

[@2wheelAdv]

Nicely done

[@TheSuprahuman]

Very informative video, how did you find the ride after the adjustments? This will help a lot of owners if the shocks was that badly set up from the factory. Thanks

[@macmerized]

Preload cannot be adjusted on the front forks of the Scrambler 1200 XE.

[@81vanagon]

yes it can. turn gold hex nuts on top of each fork.

[@zardportugal]

Cool video. New springs on the way? Better ride quality now? Cheers.

[@BackDraftBikes]

I want to but $$...trying to work something out. The bike is 10x better now, much less harsh. Feels more like a motocross bike!

[@Larry_Mott]

I thought the XE had 250 mm stroke both fore and aft?

[@BackDraftBikes]

It does, he was wrong

[@patinaz6758]

What about static sag? I thought you needed that first before rider sag, in order to determine if you need different springs or not.

[@charliestoybox2099]

Set your rider sag first. Then check your static sag. If you don’t have enough static sag, your springs are too soft.

[@richardmoir9455]

Hi. Great video. So how much do you weigh? Just so I can work out how much pre load I need on my XE. Thanks

[@BackDraftBikes]

240lb - Yes, I a fat

[@khakimzhanmiras]

but maybe the xe is just a harsh ride because the e stands for 'extreme'?

[@ginoasci2876]

are the forks adjusted independently like the rear or is one adjustment load and the other rebound ???

[@BackDraftBikes]

yes, each one is independent.

[@FenrisUlfven]

Isn't the suspension travel on the XE 250 mm ?? The XC has 200 mm travel as far as I know.

[@klausgypser1485]

thank you for this video. may i ask, how much you weigh? think i also need the full preload. ✌🏻

[@BackDraftBikes]

6' 4" and 240lbs. I know, I know.... I will say though that with the full preload the bike rides waaaay better than before. Ride Safe!

[@klausgypser1485]

BackDraft Bikes thanks mate! i‘m not far away with 221lbs. you‘re right, after i saw your video i have changed my preload and its far better now. thanks! ✌🏻

[@blacktiger955i]

At last someone who knows what they're talking about. All the idiots writing in bike magazines go on about so many millimeters of sag. But they're generally talking about an RaceRep type bike with 100mm of full travel. The people with an Adv type bike who know nothing, follow that and wonder why their bike feels like crap. That 1/3rd measurement is the holy grail.

[@billbrower4499]

I bought a 2019 1200 XE just four days ago. This is a great tip, and on my bike (factory rep bike, had 1612 miles on it) the left compression was set to 6, the right to 7 and left rebound was 17, right 18 so those were almost correct. About a 90 mile ride home, and the next morning I checked tire pressures; rear was 36 so I bumped it up (max 42) and front was a paltry 16psi - way way to low; set to recommended 36psi. Check your front tire pressure, guys. I'll be checking mine daily until I'm satisfied there isn't some type of leak. Can anyone recommend a source for a centerstand? Triumph website says theirs is for the 1200 XC (I don't know if there's a difference, actually, or not).

[@BackdraftBBQ]

try TEC parts in CA. Also my front tire had the same issue, always going flat. I had to remove the tire and grind off the little rubber nubs. No leak now. Cheers!

[@franckbeillard9103]

I found CENTER STAND FOR TRIUMPH SCRAMBLER 1200 XE (2019-) from Hepco&Becker www.hepco-shop.de/en/center-stand-for-triumph-scrambler-1200-xe-2019.html The XC OEM is too short (longer suspension on XE).

[@billbrower4499]

@@franckbeillard9103 Thank you, Frank, I'll check it out.

[@billbrower4499]

@@BackdraftBBQ I did check w/TEC, they don't have a centerstand. My front tire has held pressure for six days now, so keeping my fingers crossed.

[@kentowers2802]

The base settings he keeps referring to are incorrect standard setting is -15 and -18 at the rear and -2 and -2 on the front Also I don’t think that bike left the factory like that - someone has adjusted or played with the clickers on that previously. They do come from the factory set correctly

[@DarthSpaceBall]

Mine is two days old from the dealer and exactly the same.

[@michaelhassall6821]

how dose it ride now after adjustment

[@BackDraftBikes]

MUCH better! Still want to get a set of springs, though, but it is a 100% improvement!

[@dc10-85]

What’s a good compression and rebound for an XC for a 185 lbs rider

[@BackDraftBikes]

I would call Ohlins tech, they have a calculator and can tell you exactly

[@eatsleepplayrepeat]

Can you please tell me you're weight? I'd like to know how much the max preload handles.

[@BackDraftBikes]

240lbs

[@eatsleepplayrepeat]

@@BackDraftBikes how many pounds you imagine the max preload is ideal for?

[@fabiobertinipaes7122]

Dear....Could you describe the difference before vs after?

[@BackDraftBikes]

Fabio Bertini Paes MUCH better. Night and day!

[@fabiobertinipaes7122]

@@BackDraftBikes I have a Harley Davidson Softail SLim 2018 and I am thinking to change for scrambler 1200 XE.

[@BackDraftBikes]

DO IT😎

[@tomjones8883]

The Olins guy has the stroke measurement wrong. The XC is 200mm travel but the XE is 250mm so he’s setting up the preload way too hard 😂 hence why he’s saying you need a stiffer spring

[@jacobshirley7155]

Im 210lbs but ride mostly dirt. I set mine to the recommended booklet settings... are you having issues because you want to set it for street riding or is this because you're having issues off road?

[@BackDraftBikes]

No, Actually cranking up the settings helps off road, I was bottoming out and when that happens off road you crash.

[@jacobshirley7155]

@@BackDraftBikes hmm interesting, I have mine setup with no preload and the recommended off road settings weighing in at 220, heavy off road and even motocross track jumps (small) without issue. Maybe that 20lb difference means that much?

[@chriscargle7645]

Whoops

[@andy3d1]

How much do you weigh? I’m 215lb just wondering…

[@BackDraftBikes]

240

[@andy3d1]

@@BackDraftBikes I just checked and my settings were the same as you, basically closed off it was so was soooo firm! I set it to soft per owners manual and now it’s amazing. Don’t know how dealers/factory are letting them out like that!

[@MrHercules222]

So first takeaway is that Triumph never intended for a passenger on this bike.

[@BackDraftBikes]

there is some truth to that...

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

I think I would love riding the bike. But the damn exhaust is butt ugly.

[@jimpion]

So, this begs the question how does a fat ass like us get stiffer springs? Because you and I both know we aren’t going to lose 70 pounds. (Yes, I weigh the same as you, and am soon to be the owner of an XC... not the XE, but we’re in the same ballpark).

[@BackDraftBikes]

Maxed out, they work ok. Ohlins said that I could cu$tom order spring$. Not today Ohlin$. $sorry for the typo$💀

[@jimpion]

@@BackDraftBikes did they quote a price?

[@BackDraftBikes]

@@jimpion Around $1200 USD

[@jimpion]

@@BackDraftBikes for just the springs?!?!?!

[@BackDraftBikes]

@@jimpion yup!

[@7x779]

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