How to DIY Winterize 2 Stroke Outboard Engine | Mercury Force 120HP

[@mudbrats]

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[@jaredmontgomery8934]

I asked my boat mechanic over 30 years of service. How he winterize boat motors. First thing he said don't fog he said he has saw it do more harm to motors then help. Said just run gas out or run good stabilizer through motor change lower unit oil. That's all he does has less issues. Just don't fog it.

[@mudbrats]

You can ask 10 people and they will all guve you different answers. And they are all right. Do what you do. I will continue fogging mine. I cant believe a Mechanic would say fogging does more harm than good on a 2 stroke 🤣

[@ryanbrown2360]

Same motor, just did mine following this video! Thank you so much for the step by step breakdown!

[@mudbrats]

thanks for the great comment! Cheers❤️

[@briansdavey]

Thanks for this! I'm about to do this for the first time, and this was just what I needed.

[@mudbrats]

Youre welcome! let me know if u have questions

[@JoseLopezCruz-cd3qg]

Good job sir. Really helpful!

[@mudbrats]

Thank-you!

[@eltazmania1313]

Wow bro the best video after 100s that I saw bro please do more

[@mudbrats]

thanks man! i will do more boat vids. Cheers

[@eltazmania1313]

@@mudbrats I have a Johnson 90 and I don’t know nobody to winterize it I look around for ifo but everything was not to clear , I hope you make one for first start in spring

[@mudbrats]

@@eltazmania1313 good plan! have to replace my starter first... oooops! been on backorder since september, supposed to come in December - geez

[@alexcoursen711]

Same engine, doing mine this week. Thanks for the video!

[@mudbrats]

thank-you! hope it helps!!

[@arliewolfinbarger3847]

Awesome video thanks man

[@mudbrats]

Thank you!!!

[@mikespindor]

Great video thanks for making it. Changing the gear oil soon on mine.

[@mudbrats]

Parallel 60 awesome! thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@bounphommarath1810]

Thanks!

[@mudbrats]

glad to help

[@Julie-uo8wg]

Great Video!! Going to try winterizing for the first time this week. FYI, your shopping list isn't in the description. Can you add it please?

[@mudbrats]

Done! Thanks for letting me know.

[@xKingBoo]

I have a question, do I need to do anything to the rest of the boat? This is all I need to do and then store it in garage and I’m good??

[@mudbrats]

this is all i do, then cover it and put it under a lean-to outside

[@xKingBoo]

@@mudbrats thanks for the reply, I was also wondering what’s the process when spring is back and you wanna use the boat?

[@mudbrats]

@@xKingBoo take the battery out before you store it. I keep that in my basement over the winter. In the spring i just charge the battery, top up with fresh fuel and run it. I also do a wash and wax and good vacuum and cleanup inside (i have videos on that)

[@northerniltree]

Proper winterization requires a shot of whiskey or vodka between each step. Man and machine both now ready for the long nights.

[@mudbrats]

attaboy! thats a great tip!

[@mooes257]

What about water in the engine does it all drain when down

[@mudbrats]

@@mooes257 Yes on an OUTBOARD notor when it is left completely vertical (downward trim position) it will drain completely. On an I/O I believe you need to winterize the impeller system with antifreeze, but not needed on an Outboard.

[@smackinbaits6693]

GReat stuff...do you have a video for de-winterizing that same motor?

[@mudbrats]

Just charge the battery, fresh gas and you are good to go! I can make a video in the spring

[@paulthecarwhisperer250]

great video thanks man!

[@mudbrats]

Paul the Car Whisperer thankyou! i apprecite that!

[@PKD253]

This is a great video. New boat owner here and I just called and asked how much this would cost me and was quoted $460 plus labor on top of that price. I seen other videos where people are flushing with anti freeze. What is the purpose of them doing that over the way you do it?

[@mudbrats]

if its an I/O inboard outboard, you need to flush with antifreeze. With an outboard like mine, as long as the motor is stored trim full down witb motor vertical, it will drain empty - no water means no risk of freezing

[@MBTUE]

Ok Now that you've done that it's time to get the sled trailer out of storage. I see snow on the ground ! My trailer is in the barn with the cows ! lol .

[@mudbrats]

You Betcha! This is a right of passage to snowmobiling season!

[@kevinmartin1094]

How do you put your out dive oil back in

[@mudbrats]

its at 7:44 - i used a pump here but amsoil has squeeze packs that work way better www.amsoil.ca/p/amsoil-severe-gear-75w-90-100-synthetic-gear-lube-svg//?zo=30708944

[@ryandrury6102]

Do you have to put marine STA-BIL in the gas tank and let it run for a few to circulate. Then for carburetor then do cylinders then marine gear lube lower unit. ? Just wondering?

[@mudbrats]

i dont use Sta-Bil - i ise Star Tron and run it all season as it helps with fuel stabilization, water/condensation in fuel, and the effects of ethanol. If u are just adding during winterization, yes run the engine to circulate through fuel system

[@darrylswitzer6846]

Do you do anything like anti-freeze for the water intake?

[@mudbrats]

Not on an outboard. As long as you store it with the outboard completely down (not tilted), the water system drains by gravity on an outboard. On an I/O you need to antifreeze the water lines

[@darrylswitzer6846]

@@mudbrats thanks man! great vid

[@mudbrats]

Darryl Switzer i really appreciate the compliment! Thank-you!!!❤️

[@chrisg6303]

Nice Video.! Thanks. I see that you have hydrofoil on Force 120. Does it help? I have almost the same boat set up.... and was thinking to install hydrofoil to improve plane...

[@mudbrats]

Chris G yes it does help! a very inexpensive performance upgrade!

[@fbflys]

I'm new into boating and this is my first year with my boat. I hope you don't mind if I ask you some basic questions. What is the point of fogging the engine? I live where it doesn't snow, do I still need to fog the motor? Thanks in advance.

[@mudbrats]

fbflys if you run the boat all year, you do not need to fog it. If you ever have a time where you wont be driving it for a few months (4 or more) than fog the engine to protect everything while in storage

[@jaredmontgomery8934]

My boat mechanic told me not to fog motor says he has saw over the years that it causes more issues than helping.

[@mikealbertini7749]

If lower unit oil looks good, thick no water. Could you just keep the old in and change in spring?

[@mudbrats]

Mike Albertini yes you could but you are going to be starting the drain to see if the oil is cloudy so i just figure mat as well keep going and finish it fresh in the fall

[@gorlovchanin8340]

How do you get rid of all the water from cooling system?

[@mudbrats]

If you leave the engine straight up and down (0 trim) it self drains

[@WanderingSeneca]

Your not concerned about any water left in the lower (pump, etc) and the block freezing??? I have a Force 120 on my Bayliner, just wondering if I need to be draining the water or adding something to it somehow??

[@mudbrats]

no - as long as the engine is conpletely upright (not trimmed up at all) an outboard will self drain.... Inboard/outboard will not drain so those need antifreeze

[@WanderingSeneca]

@@mudbrats Thank you!

[@ThOi0419]

I'm considering buying a boat with a 96 40hp Force. They have a bad reputation, but I know I've heard from guys who do this kind of maintenance yearly and claim they are some of the most reliable motors out there? Can you speak to your experience with this engine?

[@mudbrats]

The FORCE that has the bad reputation are the Chrysler Force line. I love my Mercury Force and have had very few issues. Its easy to maintain and seems bulletproof.

[@ThOi0419]

@@mudbrats Very helpful, the boat I'm looking at has a "Force by Mercury"...it's also very clean. I'm not overly concerned. If she fires up, she's getting towed home.

[@mudbrats]

@@ThOi0419 it really is a great motor…. takes a lickin’ and keeps on tickin’

[@lenny7577]

I just fired up my 96 40hp Force about 2 weeks ago. I will say the only problem I have with it is cold starts but that could be more me not choking it or choking too much or not enough high idle. It does start though no problems! Plan on going fishing this Friday!

[@ThOi0419]

@@lenny7577 thank you! I bought the boat. I’ve had it out 3 times so far. While mine also starts cold, once it’s running it sounds great. Appreciate the response.

[@ntj030885]

I have a 1999 force 90hp. Do you know where to buy parts? I can’t even find the impeller online. The motor runs perfect but parts are scarce.

[@mudbrats]

no sorry - its likely best to check ebay if your dealer cant get the parts right now

[@ntj030885]

@@mudbrats ok Thanks. I’ll try my local dealer next.

[@chulee8148]

I have sameone Do u know fuel hose size? Think about put fuel and water separater Have u done this before?

[@mudbrats]

no i do not - sorry! let me know how it goes!

[@justflooreit4me1]

I'm going to be inheriting a starcraft boat with a force 125 engine. I believe the motor is a 1989 model. Do you believe I will be able to get any parts I need for this thing?

[@mudbrats]

justflooreit4me1 yes for sure... most the parts are easy to get for me so far - rebuilt starter, power trim and relays, reed valves - its a simple and easy to maintain 2 stroke!

[@justflooreit4me1]

@@mudbrats thank you for the reply. I know nothing about boats or outbord motors. Have a great day

[@sportscarclinic]

Music is really distracting. Turn the flywheel when the plugs are still out.

[@mudbrats]

i usually do that - turn the flywheel and spray a bit of fogging oil in each open cylinder through the spark plug hole - my buddies were around when i shot this so i was “distracted” plus the music cuts out their trash talk and potty language 😂. thanks for adding this tip - its a good one

[@philbarrows424]

The “Pisser hole” is actually called a “tell-Tale”

[@mudbrats]

yessir

[@marcrussell8485]

Are these motors easy to find parts for? I’m looking at a 96 and not sure of the hp. A 17 ft bass boat with a Force.

[@mudbrats]

yeah - its been pretty good to find parts. ebay has lots and my local mercury dealer has anything i needed from them (power trim, solenoids etc)

[@Bobby8451]

Question, when u first start up the engine cold, is there other of water that's suppose to flow through the engine or does it have a thermostat like a car and only flows fast when it's warm?? When I start mine, water comes out but like a little steam. I only ran like 2 minutes on and off. Never dealt with marine engines before so I kinda feel uncomfortable leaving it running out of the water. Thx for any input.

[@mudbrats]

on older outboards - that sounds normal to me. Mine really doesnt come out right away until i rev it or it runs a minute. The newer outboard pump a hard consisent stream right from cold start on.

[@Bobby8451]

@@mudbrats Yeah Mines old. It's been sitting a my grandpas for over 3 yrs and I heard it was sitting somewhere else for longer that. It has a 2003 registration sticker and tag . Lol But it still runs. Lol 😆

[@mudbrats]

nice.... the impellers do get stiff with age but i havent replaced mine and it still keeps pumping

[@yuliverson2183]

Thanks, it’s hard to hear you. Video could have been done without the elevator music.

[@mudbrats]

i know... i am sorry about that

[@danryan3146]

You said it for me, Mike. Informative with a nice cha-cha-cha....

[@tazblink]

Your EPA approved oil catch pan made me laugh. Do you think you really need to remove the plugs and spray more oil in each cylinder after you stalled the engine with the fogging oil? I am not saying you don't need to I was just wondering. Thinking of buying a boat this weekend and I haven't been around boats sense I was young. I grew up with boats but got kind of burned out on them, the old lady never really was interested but I am getting the bug again. Anyway thanks for sharing your video.

[@abolishguncontrollaws5689]

You can never be too safe winterizing an engine and using oil. Same applies to storing a short, long block or assembled engine.

[@mudbrats]

I remove the plugs just so it leaves a nice coating of oil on the top of the pistons.

[@glennstephenson4582]

Fog light is OK, but before cranking Again, remove plugs, turn over motor( bump, 2-3 second maybe couple times on the Hose& wipe any excess around plug area, then Reinstall plugs if good.

[@oscarestrada7028]

Is yours a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke outboard?

[@mudbrats]

2 stroke

[@oscarestrada7028]

Nice I have the same boat.

[@oscarestrada7028]

Wasn’t sure how to tell the difference on it? Just purchased it, but negotiated with the grandson and he wasn’t sure if it was 2 stroke or 4.......?

[@oscarestrada7028]

How can you tell if it is or not?

[@mudbrats]

@@oscarestrada7028 By sound - Four strokes have a smooth deep growl sound - like a car or a street bike or lawn mower. Two Strokes have a Ring-Ding-Ding-Sound like a Dirt Bike or weed eater/leaf blower. By looks - 2 Stokes are more compact looking - plugs are usually on top of each cylinder, 4 strokes usually look bulky and have Cam shafts and valve bodies on top of each cylinder. Also 2 Stokes will either be mixed gas and oil or have a separate oil tank for the oil. Four Strokes will have the oil pour right into the engine and like your car does. I hope this explanation makes sense. If any other viewers have anything to add to this, please comment below

[@LastAvailableAlias]

Would've been better without the cha cha music

[@mudbrats]

i actually agree - it was to drown out background chatter

[@glennstephenson4582]

Possibly Mercury worst outboards ever. 75,90,85 , 120 HP, whatever. Not made to last, I’m sure some with Super low hours did ok, but older 80-90’s & then ELPTO are way better. Yamaha topped them All. 2 stroke

[@mudbrats]

mine has been great! simple to maintain and only have very minor issues. I guess there are bad and good ones in every outboard

[@tomgorman4279]

@@mudbrats Mines a 94-still running 30 years later.

[@ShaneRossi]

Sorry I don’t do ads

[@mudbrats]

thats fine but you need to understand the time and money i put into this channel. KZbin pay is crap so if i can buy a beer or a coffee from ad revenue each video, i am happy