How to do 18th Century Knotting (Part I) - Historical Embroidery

[@fouroakswisconsin]

Since I have been learning tatting, I have been noticing that the shuttles in these portraits are much larger. Now I understand the history and why. Very interesting.

[@antiqueneedlework]

Thank you so much for your comment!! so many little interesting things hide in paintings!

[@BryceHistorically]

What a lovely video! I am honored to be mentioned. 😊 Your work is beautiful, and I look forward to seeing more.

[@antiqueneedlework]

I really admire your work! your lace is to die for!!

[@yvonnemariane2265]

I gather from this on Wiki that "handmade lace" means knotting! so the shift may mean that it was due to going more commercialized (and "fashion" is directed mostly by sellers). "As most fashion magazines and home economics magazines from the first half of the 20th century attest, tatting had a substantial following. When fashion included feminine touches such as lace collars and cuffs, and inexpensive yet nice baby shower gifts were needed, this creative art flourished. As the fashion moved to a more modern look and technology made lace an easy and inexpensive commodity to purchase, hand-made lace began to decline" Edit: 8:37 so "knotting" _is_ a form of "tatting"

[@vanessad2873]

THANK YOU. I've been looking for info on this for LITERALLY DAYS now. On top of being obscure, the art form's name is so, so bad for SEO.

[@antiqueneedlework]

I'm so glad I was able to provide you with the info you needed!

[@madebylora]

I’m grateful to you for making this video! I recently started tatting and I’d heard people saying that it had developed from knotting. I didn’t understand the difference because tatting is also making knots! Thank you! (Now I’m going to watch part 2)

[@lorisewsstuff1607]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. In the references I have seen they only mention overhand knots that are couched onto fabric. I wondered why that was done rather than embroidering a row of French knots. Now I understand. Thank you for your research.

[@antiqueneedlework]

I'm so glad I was able to shed some light into the topic

[@seemlessartcreations]

This is so cool. Can you recommend a book for more information and/or patterns?

[@cindyhill9091]

I'm reading a book containing the letters of Liselotte known as Madame, the wife of Philippe d'Orléans, King Louis XIV's brother, and in it she mentions the new fad of knotting in 1718. I wondered what that was and searched the term. This video came up in the search and provided me with so much wonderful information! I am very glad to have found it! I learned a lot today. Thank you!

[@Maryhod24]

could you share the book title?

[@cindyhill9091]

@@Maryhod24 Yes, it was written by Elizabeth-Charlotte, Princess Palatine and Duchess of Orléans, “Madame”, 1652-1722, entitled *Letters from Liselotte*, Translated and Edited by Maria Kroll, (London: Allison and Busby, Ltd., 1998).

[@kkcliffy2952]

I'm a tatter and yave been wanting to learn knotting, but it's so hard to find any information on it! I volunteer at a 1670s historic site and I'd love to demonstrate knotting while I'm there since tatting is too modern.

[@justcasey6292]

Thank you for this! I needed to know how to do this for a class on tatting!

[@antiqueneedlework]

I'm very glad it was helpful!! I'm often intreagued by the relationship of knotting and tatting

[@trduesing4117]

Fascinating video. I have learned a lot. Great job! See you on part 2

[@antiqueneedlework]

Thank you so much!!

[@dawnwoo8423]

Thank you...I have a good bit of old tatting done by my great grandmother.

[@antiqueneedlework]

What a wonderful treasure!

[@juliecain6397]

I tat, but haven't done so in a while...so much going on...but this looks very like it...I wish you had been VERY much closer with the camera...or that you might use a much larger (bit of rope) to demonstrate the knots so we can see what they look like...and like tatting, it is difficult to find a use for such things...so a bit more about uses...and how to use it? I really appreciate that you are trying to teach this very old technique. I am by no means any kind of expert tatter...but these days with trims priced out of the market...one searches for ways to do for one's self.

[@antiqueneedlework]

Unlike tatting this results in clumps of knots, not lace. The second part of the video shows it's original inteded use. To be applied as texture unto soft furnishings.

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

I know tatting and I've heard of knotting but never seen it demonstrated. Thank you for showing it to us. I'm curious too why this technique has been fazed out.

[@antiqueneedlework]

I'm glad the video was useful 🥰Perhaps it was too time consuming for the actual end product? One can certainly see fads and trends of when some techniques come and go back in fashion thorught the last 300 years.

[@kitch-n-witch9280]

Thank you! Thank you for doing the research and sharing it. Thank you for the demonstration. ❤

[@antiqueneedlework]

You're very welcome!! I love these things, sadly sometimes it takes a long time for info to come forward, but when it does, it's so exiting! 😆

[@Jollymadhatter]

Thank you I have been looking for videos on knotting and flyfringe tying for so long! I have immediately subscribed and look forward to watching more of your content.

[@antiqueneedlework]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@jkabholat]

Very interesting

[@SpinningShadowsFiberArts]

How interesting! Thank you for sharing this. I may have to add this to my list of crafts to learn!

[@antiqueneedlework]

Thank you for watching!! I'm glad I can help you!!

[@rondawhitman8468]

Love it!

[@antiqueneedlework]

I'm very happy!

[@margaritamicaela7840]

Hola Florencia, gracias por tus videos explicativos de éste arte olvidado. Fueron muy claros y pedagógicos. Espero con ansias los siguientes. Aunque no hablo ni leo inglés, los comprendí perfectamente. Besos

[@antiqueneedlework]

Muchas gracias!! Tambien puede activar los subtitulos, estan en español. :)

[@olgakrasilnikova8041]

Была бы благодарна за субтитры на русском.

[@olgakrasilnikova8041]

Мне понравились все ваши видео, Флоренс! Я поняла, что это узелковое фриволите, но очень нужны субтитры на русском, и хотелось бы увидеть название книги по узелкам. Благодарю.

[@antiqueneedlework]

Привет Ольга! Я рада, что мои видео полезны. Основное различие между фриволите и узлами заключается в том, что они предназначены для нанесения на ткань и отличаются от узлов фриволите. Найденные мной книги о нем указаны в описании, извиняюсь за использование перевода. Дайте мне знать, чем я могу помочь

[@cherylstraub5970]

Queen Elizabeth the first was said to knot. Is the knotting that she did the same as the 18th century knotting?

[@antiqueneedlework]

I never knew about that! I'm curious to find out if it's the same technique or something else!! I shall look into it!!

[@jocelyneangol7422]

I what are shuttle where can purchase one

[@antiqueneedlework]

The shuttle simply holds a length of thread, look for "bone knotting shuttle" on google. If thinner thread is used you could use a tatting shuttle. Shuttles are not indespensible, you could even use a spool to hold your thread.

[@nancywood9722]

Where do you buy a knotting shuttle?

[@lorisewsstuff1607]

In the US Burnley & Trowbridge sells a knotting shuttle made of bone.

[@hjaponi]

I love the shuttle! Where did you get one so large?

[@antiqueneedlework]

Thank you!

[@hjaponi]

@@antiqueneedlework Wow - you do lovely work! I would love to see a silver smithing video someday if you have the time and desire.

[@antiqueneedlework]

@@hjaponi I'd love to show more of the different things I make, since I like to make my needlework accessories too, but at the moment I am not in my studio, sadly :(

[@vanessaleroydecarcles9461]

Where did you get that??

[@antiqueneedlework]

The shuttle? I made it myself, I am a silversmith :)

[@Stefengris]

Ex-smokers be like: this is the thing I to do with my hands.