HOW TO DO A BACK SCRATCH SPIN | FIGURE SKATING ❄️❄️

[@MsLadyFuchsia]

Thanks you so much for your tutorials. This is the FIRST channel on skating tutorials I found that actually provides the "nitty gritty" details needed to learn these elements (eg. the exit edge--how to get that flow and leverage to skate out of it successfully). Most just skip or gloss over them, which makes learning hard as you're left to figure things out for yourself. I love how you break things down. You're an awesome teacher! Please keep it up!!! PS--the audio is a bit on the low side in your videos :(....

[@FigureSkaterWendy]

The exit is always the hardest for me ......

[@nicolavarty7847]

Me to #TheStrugglesAreReal

[@zoebryan5987]

Ikr, like you want to put the crossed foot down for the landing but instead you have to unwind yourself

[@bruja_cat]

Thank you so much! I've been learning so much from these videos. I began only on roller blades and just recently began skating on the ice. I try to learn something new from your videos every time I go practice.

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

+Cathy North (Cathydoll) no problem. I'm glad you're finding them helpful.

[@bruja_cat]

I tried doing this spin today and kept getting dizzy. Any suggestions?

[@TheLarryBrown]

​@@bruja_catWith practice dizziness becomes less of a problem. You have to power through it for a while.

[@cana6228]

I just want to come back and THANK this tutorial SO MUCH for helping me get onto my outside edge and save my backspin! even my own COACH wasnt able to change that before! Immense gratitude!

[@bunnygirl1574]

This was really helpful! I can't wait for the day my mom will actually take me to an indoor ice skating rink!

[@luisvllo8764]

Your videos are so helpful for learnin very easy, and fast. Thank you so much

[@fireboltize]

Gonna try it this week , marvellous tutorial... cheers...^^

[@minasees]

these videos always help so much!

[@tanilagg]

Thanks for the movie. I'm from Russia.Figure skating is my hobby.Helps me a lot with your videos..According to him, I learn new elements.

[@elizabethozorak6773]

The pinky toe exercise is brilliant. I'm doing it in both directions in hopes that one or the other will prove to be easier!

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

+Elizabeth Ozorak yes, one way should always be easier than the other, do you know which way you normally rotate?

[@elizabethozorak6773]

I've always been a CCW skater - I'm right-handed and my coaches assumed that I would be CCW. It took me forever to learn to do even a simple scratch spin. About a year ago, I started trying to spin CW as sort of a parlor trick, trying to spin both directions in a change-foot spin, and discovered that I find it easier to center CW. Since then I have been experimenting. I don't really want to go back and relearn everything in the opposite direction but since I am having such a struggle with the back spin, I thought I'd try it both ways and see if one progresses faster. Waltz jumps and upright spins are the only things I've attempted CW.

[@dg8980]

Thank you for the video, I love your tutorials!

[@AllthebeautifulThings]

I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE this tutorial John!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!...VERY HELPFUL!

[@mylylu4910]

can someone please give me advice on a forward scratch spin?? I'm already good enough at the back scratch spin but for the forward scratch spin i just seem to have a really hard time on bringing my right foot in front. Can someone help?? Thanks

[@123skater8]

Try holding your leg out to the side before bringing it in. When you do bring your leg in, start to do it at your thigh, and then gradually move your leg down to the bottom and bring your arms in.

[@TheLarryBrown]

That came easily for me, so it shouldn't be too hard. Try launching in to a one foot spin from a standstill, by doing a pivot, and go right into the one foot spin and then bring your foot over and cross your feet. It doesn't matter if nothing is done with the correct form....once you can cross your feet at all then you will start to get better and can work into the proper form. I was trying to do a two-foot spin and get that established for a few revolutions before picking up the right foot and then crossing. My coach suggested I don't do that and just go into the one foot spin directly and then cross the feet right away and it worked for me. Also try doing it at a slower speed. If you have some speed to your one foot spin and you are trying to cross while spinning quickly, that's going to be more difficult than doing it while spinning slower. Also if you are trying to spin on your toe on a single point like a ballerina would, that's the wrong way to do it and a common mistake. Instead the left foot needs to be skating backwards in a small circle. If your one foot spin is not up to snuff, say, at least seven revolutions consistently, you'll need to improve that before working on your scratch spin. If you can only do 2.5 revs in your one foot spin forget it.

[@jakemckoy3808]

Cheers mate got training at 3 am tomorrow so I can try it then. Thanks

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

Figure tutorial wow, thats pretty early!

[@TheLarryBrown]

Good video in spite of the poor sound. It helps to listen with headphones. The tip on exiting the spin is worth the price of admission. I think he's using a "power pull" technique there but he doesn't mention it. That push he's doing is probably a lot harder than he makes it look. It's a short video, that's good, so I shouldn't expect too much detail, but he does goi right from just learning how to circle on the outside edge to, like, a 5 revolution fast and smooth backspin, so there could have been some more intermediate steps there. Also, as in all one foot spin videos I've seen, he glosses over the 3-turn but that's a difficult and crucial part that needs more attention in instruction.

[@GGs-c1u]

I'm getting started, what kind of pants do you buy? Are those regular sweatpants?

[@iomoon3608]

Thank you. I just managed to do the change foot spin with the basic backspin. It'll definitely take a while to get that foot crossed for me. XD

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

iomoon Well done. Yeah, it can be a bit tricky.

[@iomoon3608]

THINICE Update: I'm getting better step by step. I actually managed to pull the leg in without tripping over myself. Needless to say, my spinning leg is sore.

[@valeriegrace2144]

Does this work with roller blades as well? I've always wanted to take figure skating lessons, but the closest rink is almost 2 hours away, and it doesn't seem to get warm enough where I live to freeze any ponds or lakes, so roller blading seems to be my best option for me. I can do a toe loop now and a few other jumps and spins, but just thought I'd ask before trying this out. 🙂

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

+Valerie Bullock to be honest I have never done any rollerblading, but the principles are the same. I'm pretty sure you could do this but the balance points may be different.

[@Alex-jm4vc]

You can do jumps on rollerblades?! That is so cool, how did you learn that, was it hard, isn't it kind of dangerous and can you please teach me because I am in your exact situation?

[@valeriegrace2144]

I usually just watch videos on figure skating and try my best to go from there. 🙂 And I wouldn't say so. The way I look at it is: it's not really much (if any) more dangerous than trying the exact same thing on figure skates. Granted I know there are a few major differences between the two since there isn't a toe-pick and the turns and spins tend to be more difficult since the wheels can't slide on concrete and/or wood the same way figure skates can. But it's still well worth the time and effort you put into learning new skills on roller blades (IMO). 🙂

[@siribaimusic]

you need inline figure skates, with a rocker like an figure skating blade. look up Snow Whites.

[@TheLarryBrown]

If roller skating satisfies you, stay with that and forget about figure skating. Figure skating is 100% work, zero% fun. Figure skating is murderously difficult, ask anybody. Your entire career will be work work work practice practice practice and you will never get very good, like those people in the Olympics. If you really must ice skate, checkout some videos on "freestyle" skating and if that appeals to you it will be more fun than figure skating.

[@paupotter16]

I've nerver tried with the right leg, I always end up doing a 3 turn with the left, hope this time it'll work, thanks!

[@TheLarryBrown]

Not sure what you mean, but a 3 turn is a part of a one foot spin.

[@myheartandi999]

Thank you very much for the video. I start learning back spin now. Very helpful tips.

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

myheartandi999 Great, let me know how it's going :)

[@fablefaces3785]

Superb information. Many thanks

[@crystalkhor1999]

Ermm for me i dont have trouble crossing my legs in most of the time but one major problem that i have is that i keep rocking to the back of the blade instead of keeping on the ball of my foot as i start to pick up speed>.

[@CyberMinkk]

Same mate. i could do the spin but sometimes the spin stopped in the middle because im bad at keeping on the ball of my foot...:'((

[@hahahakakala]

Thank you so much for the nice tutorial! When I do a back scratch spin, I always fall on the inside edge, do you have any suggestions for that? Thank you!

[@Tracymmo]

His motion to exit the spin reminds me of the old figures.

[@TheLarryBrown]

The toe-pick in the ice pivot is the wrong way to get this started. That's because doing that prevents your blade from skating backwards, which is what it needs to do. A common misconception, and mistake, is thinking you need to spin on the toe like a ballerina, but that's not it, and the toe-pick in the ice pivot encourages that bad thinking and bad spin technique. Instead a pivot without using the toe-pick is possible and advised, and allows the blade to skate backwards as required. It's interesting to watch coach at 1:35 at 0.25x speed. You see him do the toe-pick pivot and between time 1:37 and 1:38 he has removed the toe-pick from the ice and you can see his blade shift from spinning in place to skating backwards. I suspect there's some action needed to make that happen. For info about this alternate pivot technique check out Coach Julia's approach at time mark 6:00 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXbYaa1mg5J7rrssi=mSP-yhuzijYOyAlw

[@sylvetka2]

All your lessons are simply great... so helpful. Just one tip - your camera is fixed in one position ad you can`t really see your feet when you do revolutions, they are cut... maybe this could be fixed..? :)

[@Skater51]

Thank you so much for the video. I have issue with my back spin, I find it very difficult to cross my feet when spinning I loose my balance...help?

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

Diana Thakur No problem. as you cross your feet just keep trying to draw up as tall as you can sating on the ball of your foot.

[@ZqinEric]

Thank u for the tips. I will try it out.

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

Eric Zhang Qin no problem, let me know how it goes :)

[@sharongibson8742]

Thanks so much for these amazing vids

[@rockubabe]

Your videos are the best tutorials on KZbin. Please move to London!

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

rockubabe Thanks :) haha, I would really like to move to London, where about in London are you?

[@quesera5305]

Please come to Alexandra Palace in London!

[@BrittanyKuhlken]

I spin with my left foot, does this move have to be done spinning on your right or is it a type of move that should be learned for your left and right foot?

[@winniewu9308]

Hi, +Brittany Amore, idk if this is too late of a reply, but it's more about spinning in the same direction than on the same foot. Most people who are right-handed spin counterclockwise, and most people who are left-handed spin clockwise. This also goes for the direction of rotation for your jumps. This is rather exclusive to figure skaters, since dancers are required to spin both ways, though they too usually have a direction they favor. Of course you're more than welcome to experiment on land and on ice to see which direction you prefer. Hope this helps!

[@TheLarryBrown]

The modern convention is to only learn to spin in your favored direction and not to force yourself to learn both directions. If you spin on your left foot, the back spin is done on the right foot and in the same direction of rotation, that is, counter-clockwise. You won't need to learn the back spin on the left foot, in fact, you can't even do that anyway.

[@andrewdeimloc9200]

Your tutorials are fire! Every time I’m struggling, your videos help so much! Thank you! Also, do you have an Instagram?

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

Pleased I can help, yeah my skating insta is thinicetv

[@fablefaces3785]

Hi there. I've noticed that you do your ref spins on your left but your back spin on your right. I'm nisa silver but am having a dilemma spinning on left and are switching to right (don't know why I didn't do this all along). Are all the spins on the same leg please. I'm getting confused. Many thanks

[@zoeleeswalsh3656]

Fable Faces A back spin is done in your normal direction but rather than being on the foot nearest to the direction it's on the other one a forward spin is done on the normal foot

[@NiniCereceda]

can you guys make a tutorial for the scratch spin? please!! your tutorials are awesome :)

[@aaliyahsayed9168]

I was confused why there wasn't a scratch spin one, but I found out that he actually did make one, and it's titled "one foot spin". It is what I call a scratch spin!

[@schumache101]

I am in basic 7/8, so should I practice this? Or should I wait until freeskate 1? By the way when you made the title for the video, how do you add the snowflakes>? Thanks :)

[@xxXThinIceXxx]

schumache101 Yaeah, I would maybe wait a little bit before trying this. I just did it on my phone.

[@schumache101]

Thanks :)

[@lutamo2341]

Lol. Thanks, man I wanted to study it and now I can do it!

[@keyanarking]

Wow😮

[@timmywoofers2671]

I love the video, I film and create several professional videos, I think you should get a wireless microphone

[@kingsquid2246]

i like you video

[@kenderova]

Hi, your videos are really really great and helpfull, but I wish I can hear and understand more.Your voice is not loud enough, there is a lot of background noise from stadium.

[@ramachj]

Yeah, honestly, I can't even do a spin....😂😂😂😂

[@ShellySkates]

Just start with a 2 foot spin! Then you will be golden!

[@heathercollins4432]

I wish the audio was better...

[@green9554]

Why am I watching this?I dont even know how to skate

[@kaxtutanjp]

Can not to see his skating leg....