How to do a closed transfer from FV to Keg

[@jasonclick]

excellent idea. i always pump co2 into my fermenter while transferring to the keg but this is even a better idea

[@Stuve715]

Very good, I do much the same thing (I have an SS Brewbucket, no trub drain valve at the bottom so you rotate the ball valve/racking cane 90deg before starting the transfer). It does take a while, I make the gas line a bit longer and leave half a loop hanging with a bit of Starsan in it, as the beer flows in and the gas flows out it bubbles through the Starsan so you can tell it's still going and not blocked.

[@robfry2266]

Genius! Why didn’t I think of this? Tried it the other day and worked a charm! Cheers

[@DudesBrews]

McManus-Fry Brewing Co. cheers! Glad it worked well for you 👍🏻🍻

[@99ulysses99]

I need to give ths a try now that I have a suitable fermenter, top work Dickie. Good use of the word ingress too btw

[@TheGrimbarianBrewer]

I'll remember this method for when I finally upgrade my equipment at some point. Cheers

[@watchfordpilot]

Looks like I'll be sniffing round to upgrade my kit - good vid, thanks.

[@clivebrooker1]

I've done a similar thing and now ferment in a couple of Corny kegs under pressure (10/11 litres in each), then transfer to a keg under pressure with CO2 pushing the beer out of the FVs (although rarely necessary). Everything perfectly sealed and the beer is already carbonated ready to serve after conditioning.

[@DudesBrews]

nice! I think I may adapt one of my kegs so I can try this out at some point as well

[@clivebrooker1]

@@DudesBrews In order to stop sucking up the trub, you can either lop a couple of inches off the end of the out dip tube, stick a bit of silicon tube over the end of the dip tube and double it back to form a U-bend or get creative with strainers/mesh. I find fermenting in Corny's gives me a lot of flexibility in terms of weight, manoeuvrability and space utilisation. You'll also need some kind of pressure regulator (Blowtie Spunding valve - AliExpress). Cheers.

[@MRGIT999]

I was wondering if this FV would hold 5 to 10 psi if I seeled the blow off hole with corny keg gas post.

[@tube4waldek]

David Carr In one vid I’ve heard it’s not designed for that. But hey, who’s the smart home brewer here, he?

[@johnricc5868]

It may be quicker if you fit a gas ball lock post on top of your fermenter. Then you can apply some top pressure to the fermenter. Then at the gas ball lock on the keg fit some tubing after the disconnect connect to an in line ball valve so as you transfer you bleed the pressure from the keg out as it fills.

[@Dts1953]

Great video that my mate. I have had a bit of trouble recently with a batch of TT Landlord which I oxidised. I don’t usually get problems but this video helps. Cheers👍👍👍

[@TJ.79]

New to your vids but have been looking at closed transfer to my cornies, so this one has given me some ideas for my own version. cheers!

[@DudesBrews]

cheers hope it works well for you

[@graemetaylor4615]

Great video, thanks! But how and when would you add finings, dry hops etc., in an entirely closed system like this?

[@goodolboysbrewery125]

Good vid mate closed transfers are the way to go ya beers will keep a stronger hop aroma and taste so much longer

[@DudesBrews]

good ol boys brewery cheers bud that’s what I’m hoping for!

[@StassBrewing]

nice video - hadn't thought of putting the gas out post back into the top of the FV. I've done closed transfer (as best I could) for hoppy beers and they do seem to stay fresher for longer. When you say you purged the keg with CO2 did you mean fill with starsan and push out with CO2 or just fill with CO2 and pull the PRV a few times?

[@DudesBrews]

cheers andrew, ideally completely fill the keg and displace with co2, burping the keg will help but wont guarantee a completely oxygen free environment

[@benandrews5019]

Great video I tried this but only filled half the keg then couldn’t get a flow again any ideas???

[@DudesBrews]

I have found the disconnects and posts can easily get clogged with small bits of hops or yeast so watch out for that, other than that should always work as its just a basic siphon really

[@MalvernDan]

Great vid Rich and I was wondering, now that I am kegging, how I could do a closed transfer for those really hoppy beers. Looks a fairly simple process, will give it a go.

[@DudesBrews]

No more difficult than my usual syphoning method really so I will definitely carry on doing this, cheers

[@steamedbeech967]

Good work, Cheers.

[@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965]

Nice, I see how you do it now, the gas in the keg replaces the gas in the FV after releasing the pressure from the keg. Was this a pressurized fermentation so you have to vent some pressure in the FV as well ?

[@DudesBrews]

Justin The Fixer the one in the video was not a pressure fermentation, you can release pressure if you are doing it that way or just use that pressure to push the beer into the keg (don’t need gas return line in that case)

[@83surfer83]

Hi dude, thanks for this. Have watched a few of your videos and they have guided me through my processes too. When you were doing this transfer, was your PRV slightly open? I tried a similar method but pumping about 1 psi via the top of the FV and found that beer wouldn’t flow unless I slightly opened the PRV. Thanks!

[@TheMichaeloconnor1]

Great idea! I'd like to give this a shot. What PSI do you have your keg at?

[@DudesBrews]

doesn't really matter as I vent the keg through the lines before I connect to the FV, transfer is all by gravity

[@tostare]

thanks for this - This is loads simpler than what I was about try to set up for my first closed transfer - the idea of taking the pushed-out co2 from the keg and feeding it straight back into the FV is one of those smack yourself in the forehead so-obvious-in-hindsight moments. I think that all I need is something to let me connect a hose to my overly large tap on the fermenter. Was the ballon that useful though? I notice it was empty at the start of the process anyway.

[@DudesBrews]

thanks, yeah the beer had been cold crashed so the c02 in the balloon gets sucked back in rather than normal air/oxygen. Its empty at this point because its already done its job basically

[@tostare]

@@DudesBrews ah yeah cool. I'm not able to cold crash the fermenter, my brew fridge isn't big enough, so I need to do it all in the keg. Is it worth trying to capture the co2 that comes off during fermenting do you think? Another thing that just occurred to me is that if you have the keg sitting on some bathroom scales you can see when it's full, and also if it's got stuck. cheers

[@DudesBrews]

@@tostare if you aren't cold crashing I don't see any benefit in trying to capture the co2 tbh as long as you have a normal airlock type setup, the bathroom scales idea is great I have definitely had a few occasions when the transfer got stuck and I didn't realise for ages

[@tostare]

BTW another thing I saw was to fill up the keg with water (to the brim) first then pump it out with co2 as if you were serving beer out of it, as a way to make sure there is no o2 in the keg.

[@Michaelbrady1000]

No expert but I'm thinking would it be possible to connect the gas out tube to FV then connect to keg so your C02 in keg would enter the fermenter this would push through the lines faster and guarantee no O2 not sure if it would work that's why I'm asking?

[@DudesBrews]

not 100% on that you would only be able to do it with very low pressure for an FV that isnt pressure rated, it might also push gas back in through the FV tap which might disturb the sediment. It could work but not sure how much advantage you'd get in terms of speeding it up

[@Michaelbrady1000]

@@DudesBrews cheers might be worth an experiment

[@HairyJamie]

Great video, how are you cooling your new FV? I was looking at the same one and wondered if I could fit it in a standard under counter fridge by shortening the back legs to sit on the compressor hump?

[@DudesBrews]

thanks! I like the new FV but there are a few issues with build quality IMO, some slightly rough welds and seal on lid wasn't great without adjustment of clips. That said I think its still good value but I'm not sure about getting it in the small fridge, I think you will struggle tbh

[@HairyJamie]

@@DudesBrews cheers! I wasn't sure whether I was going to get one but i don't think I'll bother it was a bit of a want rather than need anyway! I'll treat myself to a new spiedel plastic effort!

[@tube4waldek]

HairyJamie Well that’s a shocker.

[@qh4007]

Thanks. How was the Beer? Cheers!

[@davidt8546]

What is Ducttaped to your Fermenter?

[@DudesBrews]

Just a bit of bubble wrap to insulate the temperature probe for my fridge controller

[@gib859]

Do you still do this now? I’m going to do this with my SS BrewBucket tomorrow unless you have a bette way since last year.

[@DudesBrews]

yes I still do it this way with pretty much all my beers

[@gib859]

Dudes Brews Thank you, sir! Really enjoy your content. I have your KBS clone in the fermenter for November drinking.

[@DudesBrews]

@@gib859 nice! hope it comes out well for you I still have 1 bottle of that brew left....

[@this_is_stupid-x3b]

how do you know the inside of that balloon is sanitary?

[@robertgraffham6440]

Surely you would have been better making the connections to the top unit first and then applying both Quick release locks to the keg?

[@DudesBrews]

Robert Graffham in order to do the bit where I purge the lines with CO2 it needs to be that way round or it would blast CO2 into the FV and throw up all the sediment, I could do It that way and not purge the lines but the goal was to remove any contact with 02 during the transfer.

[@garethsharp4039]

That's a sexy looking FV! Does it fit in your brew fridge OK?

[@DudesBrews]

yep but my brew fridge is nearly as tall as you are so I could probably stack 2 in there lol

[@Stuve715]

2:04: This is a great idea from BobbyfromNJ about preveting cold crash suckback: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZvFm2p_f5mokLc I use it myself, the bags are very cheap and sterile when new (not used ones... obviously...) and can be sanitised before reuse. Only problem is most of them have an internal reflux valve which has to be removed otherwise it defeats the purpose. Not too difficult though once you figure it out, a pair of sanitised tweezers inside the bag twisted around the valve (which is like a short tube of thin plastic film) and rip the valve out.

[@herpsmaltwatta]

It's not product ...... It's beer 🤗🤗

[@DudesBrews]

its a great product and beer! lol

[@puharniskenovice4010]

How long did it take?

[@DudesBrews]

I didn't exactly time it to be honest but it was probably around 10mins at a guess

[@jsmitube]

Thanks, this was just what I was looking for. I was thinking of this but with a more complex setup involving pressure transfer - but now that seems completely unnecessary. Just let gravity do the work 👍🏻

[@mattquerry3222]

How many pressure a conical can take??