How to do arm spin (vertushka). What details affect the throw?\ sambo academy

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IVAN VASYLCHUK. SILA PARTERA

IVAN VASYLCHUK. SILA PARTERA

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@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 2 жыл бұрын
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@Dean-d7q
@Dean-d7q 8 ай бұрын
I love doing this throw in samba or judo! Me judo coach always hates it when do it( he's a nice guy n good coach though👍) but like Ur videos Ivan 👍
@olegariomartinez6807
@olegariomartinez6807 5 жыл бұрын
I am a judo and jujitsu practitioner with a wrestling background. I have been doing a variation of this move for close to 30 years. I love your channel for the excellent explanations of the various moves. Thank you!
@pedrobrocato1982
@pedrobrocato1982 6 жыл бұрын
I learned this throw the hard way by standing up with a Judo black belt. I had to learn it when he hit this on me, so glad to have this video as a reference to the mechanics of this awesome take down. Thank you for sharing, your content is absolutely invaluable
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am very pleased to share my experience👍😉
@carlosmartinot8963
@carlosmartinot8963 6 жыл бұрын
Just used it on a jiujitsu competition works great! Ivan is the man!
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
Ivan knows what he is doing))
@im4485
@im4485 5 жыл бұрын
@@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera poor guy that you did it too. was he ok after that :). a lot of bjj guys dont know how to fall.
@furyano1251
@furyano1251 3 жыл бұрын
Can I do this in judo? It looks like it could be legit throw in competition. I'm gonna do this tomorrow in our Randori(judo sparing).
@furyano1251
@furyano1251 3 жыл бұрын
@@im4485 so true. Lots of Jiujitsu guys at our school dont know how to break falls properly.
@furyano1251
@furyano1251 3 жыл бұрын
@@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera coach Ivan. Is the Vertushca legal in judo? Very curious. This throw works really well.
@pyun2maru
@pyun2maru 5 жыл бұрын
This is Judo technique,“UDEGAESHI”. This work is called "UDEGAESHI or KAINAGAESHI" by judo and the old Japanese police arrest way is made an origin. When there are no handcuffs, a policeman takes the armlock technique called "UDETORAE" to the capacity of the criminal while reaching. A criminal tried to run away from armlock technique at the same time, and when trying to escape, a policeman gives up, beats and controls a criminal by this "UDEGAESHI".
@nerolink6964
@nerolink6964 3 жыл бұрын
SamBO born in USSR when Soviet Militia and DINAMO cloub (who also be are part of soviet militia) request are combat system for police, KGB and others federal organizations. Beat the enemy and hold him. The great Japan judo be the base of SAMBO. As you see - very similar technique, only the names are different ^_~ p.s. Very excuse for my bad English >_
@leothelion2001
@leothelion2001 5 жыл бұрын
Jiu-jitsu practitioner from Brazil , love your videos , Спасибо
@ahheadlock
@ahheadlock 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Australia!. I'm a bjj guy but i managed to hit this throw after only watching this video. Very good instruction, your channel is great.
@rataylor59
@rataylor59 5 жыл бұрын
We call this technique Ude Maki Sutemi in our system. From Japanese Jujitsu.
@ricardoregi4098
@ricardoregi4098 5 жыл бұрын
Your work is amazing! Thanks for sharing such great techniques! Keep up the good work. I’m from Brazil and I practice BJJ.
@maxsolomon1874
@maxsolomon1874 3 жыл бұрын
I was taught a variation of this for wrestling in 2009. He is right, it has been around a while. great throw.
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite surprise technique back when I was competing in Judo. I think I called it te gatame, but ude gaeshi is probably more correct. It is simply very easy to trick someone into this. Simply get a lapelle grip and fend off the other arm. Chances are good that he will reach over the grip arm, and Bang!, you got him. The only problem is that many opponents don't roll through, and prefers to land face down. Even if you get the kimura, it doesn't look to good for the referee. Maybe you have to let go to avoid being disqualified. In these days, probably more than ever.
@Antimortem
@Antimortem 2 жыл бұрын
Good example of sambo throw- to- -submission moves . Sambo is in another level 🌈
@oldmanjudo6241
@oldmanjudo6241 5 жыл бұрын
We do this throw in our Judo class, it's very effective.
@CPTLYNXY
@CPTLYNXY 4 жыл бұрын
Does it have a Japanese name.
@dariodesansebastian
@dariodesansebastian 4 жыл бұрын
@@CPTLYNXY Ude Gaeshi
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 4 жыл бұрын
you cant make armlock at judo after trow - at sambo it is a sylabus
@petarbjelogrlic4771
@petarbjelogrlic4771 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a effective throw! I saw it here and started little by little on my bjj trainings! Great!
@eliotquintana9802
@eliotquintana9802 Жыл бұрын
Ivan good techniques judo freestyle wrestling im martial arts waiting martial arts
@jameslaspesa6834
@jameslaspesa6834 5 жыл бұрын
Nice I'm definitely going to try this in my jiu-jitsu class🖒
@MtuckerGoBlue
@MtuckerGoBlue 4 жыл бұрын
When I was wrestling in college in the early 90's guys were trying to adapt this throw from judo to wrestling. Didn't go well in college since you can't secure a collar. Officials started calling it potentially dangerous since the arm was being turned inward and all the pressure was forced to the shoulder without a collar to grip. I would have loved to learn judo because I think it has great street application.
@bhuthemanakuma7557
@bhuthemanakuma7557 6 жыл бұрын
WOW..love the name of the move, damn it's creative. Just watched this video over and over again
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!💪😉👍
@longliveavalon
@longliveavalon 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!! RESPECT from Argentina.
@ManofOneGod
@ManofOneGod 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@yousafkhan9356
@yousafkhan9356 5 жыл бұрын
I am fifty years old and watching your channel makes me want to start judo.So I am ! And maybe one day I will come to Russia and train with you.Thankyou four a great channel.
@OlehKukartsev
@OlehKukartsev 5 жыл бұрын
Master from Ukraine, not Russia
@yousafkhan9356
@yousafkhan9356 5 жыл бұрын
олег кукарцев sorry Master! God willing I will come to the Ukraine. Fantastic channel.
@RiseofTaitoShirei
@RiseofTaitoShirei Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. They really help. I love Sambo. Sadly no one does it where I am so I do Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. But having family who came from Mother Russia a Sambo Kurtka feels far natural on me than a BJJ or Judo gi or a wrestling singlet.
@asengeorgiev7848
@asengeorgiev7848 Жыл бұрын
Man, "kurtka" just means "jacket", more or less. There's nothing specifically Russian about the clothing.
@josecarlosduarte833
@josecarlosduarte833 5 жыл бұрын
Que perfeição para aplicar queda estou estudando bastante essas quedas oss
@renzopichmo
@renzopichmo 6 жыл бұрын
Buen vídeo, gracias!! Saludos
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
MUCHAS GRACIAS😉
@tarasbulba77
@tarasbulba77 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Found another version of the technique but I think this one is superior 👍
@channi58
@channi58 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful instruction and wonderful throw for fighting angles. Thanks for reminding me of good old judo randori days
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching my videos!
@channi58
@channi58 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for technical instruction.
@xowktigergmailcom
@xowktigergmailcom 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a fun technique. But is it dangerous to hit on unsuspecting partners? I was doing this without kurtka. From over hook or russian 2-1, i feed the overhooking arm to collar tie and with cross wrist grip, i bend the arm at the elbow to rotate it. When my partner was doing it to me, it felt like an uncontrolled fast shoulder lock which i had to relieve by rolling. am i being paranoid or should i tell my partner that this is something i'm working on? Thank you
@CPTLYNXY
@CPTLYNXY 4 жыл бұрын
Always tell your Uke, it's very easy to get career ending injuries with submissions
@channi58
@channi58 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely dangerous
@Mvsresende
@Mvsresende 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for the Channel. I´ve been trying these movements in my BJJ black belts colleagues and it really works.
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I always give those techniques that really tested on competitions👍😉
@chriscracknell1593
@chriscracknell1593 5 жыл бұрын
Nice version of one of my favourite throws. I would love it if someone could come up with a version of this that works well for no Gi... :-)
@zakidakkak1416
@zakidakkak1416 4 жыл бұрын
yo there's plenty of ways ahha
@TheBboyjoakim
@TheBboyjoakim 4 жыл бұрын
Tried in in bjj practice and it’s awesome!
@dashchinmayee
@dashchinmayee 5 жыл бұрын
I love russians.. You are my favorite.... love from india
@joridporeci514
@joridporeci514 5 жыл бұрын
As usual great stuff!!
@legitprowrestling6653
@legitprowrestling6653 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding 🙏 Thank you sir
@cids1599
@cids1599 6 жыл бұрын
Most awesome techniques. Love this channel!!!!
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@shinobidaimyo5135
@shinobidaimyo5135 2 жыл бұрын
They call it Te Gatame in Judo. Im looking forward to learning all the variations in the future. I enjoyed your demonstration very much sir. And I wish y'all folks well in Ukraine hopefully the conflict will end sooner or later.
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir for your support! 🙌
@dimawhocares988
@dimawhocares988 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video,amazing channel. Haven't watched the video with the hansoku make in judo. I believe that the referee mentioned a possible joint hyperextension on elbow or shoulder(the latter sounds illogical) in standing position which is illegal according to IJF rules
@JoshuaDavis-b4e
@JoshuaDavis-b4e 2 ай бұрын
Love your channel thank you ivan awesome stuff i agree all wrestling has their virtues all related and people who claim to invent moves im doubtful as since the beginning man has been wrestling the ancients had all the knowledge
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 2 ай бұрын
Well said
@kungfukid4124
@kungfukid4124 5 жыл бұрын
Most appreciated. Thank you.
@tylercraig9273
@tylercraig9273 4 ай бұрын
Is the lapel grasping arm pulling back and up or is it more of a stiff arm that you rotate around? Love your videos ♥️
@martinramirez6766
@martinramirez6766 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing movement
@ThundercloudDonkey
@ThundercloudDonkey 5 жыл бұрын
honest instruction, very good
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 5 жыл бұрын
Thank! I am doing my best)
@mayankprasad7317
@mayankprasad7317 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@alhuzayl6029
@alhuzayl6029 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome (my friend)! I wonder if this can be done from a kimura lock (for no gi). I am not sure if there would be enough space to execute. Thanks again!
@praeceptor3303
@praeceptor3303 4 жыл бұрын
Messed this one up tonight. Wrong angle. Took a knee to the balls. Lesson learned.
@F1REWOLFSA
@F1REWOLFSA 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@nicocontreras5366
@nicocontreras5366 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome but could you show a vertushka than has a similar seoi nage entry and grip please?
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a dangerous throw
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly😉
@desert706fox9
@desert706fox9 5 жыл бұрын
@@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera Hahaha great answer
@chefsoni7524
@chefsoni7524 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. from London
@landonalger6633
@landonalger6633 4 жыл бұрын
If I modify this to performing it from a Russian Tie, I think I could try this in a Wrestling match. Thanks!
@dougspinestraw
@dougspinestraw 5 жыл бұрын
Great throw
@nationservent6727
@nationservent6727 5 жыл бұрын
Lovly video bro thanks so much
@gracieyoutube909
@gracieyoutube909 3 жыл бұрын
Love it !
@edhys.santos
@edhys.santos 6 жыл бұрын
Buen video saludos de Uruguay
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sergiofidelisdossantos1856
@sergiofidelisdossantos1856 5 жыл бұрын
The best martial art
@channi58
@channi58 4 жыл бұрын
What a throw
@TheCain0980
@TheCain0980 3 жыл бұрын
Gracias
@osetin1981
@osetin1981 5 жыл бұрын
Не знал этот бросок. Очень хорош. Но думаю если применить на улице к не спортсмену - броска такого красивого не получится потому что у него рука сломается.
@Supernatpy
@Supernatpy 4 жыл бұрын
Рука вряд ли сломается. Но вывих плеча может быть
@giuseppegallocorvus
@giuseppegallocorvus 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@erivaldopereira4451
@erivaldopereira4451 5 жыл бұрын
Muito bom técnica bem aplicada?
@jerrychan7191
@jerrychan7191 4 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful throw can you use that throw in the streets I'm into combat symbol something for self-defense that's a beautiful throw
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 2 жыл бұрын
It is very old trow - saw it in soviet freestyle wrestling - in USA they called it Russian tie trow
@ranlong3291
@ranlong3291 2 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dboyzero
@dboyzero 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think this is easier for a shorter fighter to use against a taller fighter, or a taller fighter to use it against a shorter fighter? I'm just thinking about how you said not to throw when they're too bent over, which seems inevitable if the opponent is much taller than you.
@SolSystemDiplomat
@SolSystemDiplomat 3 жыл бұрын
3:13 On repeat till I decide if this is usable for me.
@炼斌实记KungFuForgedtoFigh
@炼斌实记KungFuForgedtoFigh 4 жыл бұрын
all wrestling style is "worthy" 🙏
@ashemleibakngambamoirangch5416
@ashemleibakngambamoirangch5416 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jaraman9
@jaraman9 6 жыл бұрын
another Great video guys! well done. oh by the way what does "SILA PARTERA" mean?
@shakazulu6512
@shakazulu6512 6 жыл бұрын
Strength of ground work
@tresshband
@tresshband 6 жыл бұрын
it's like a "Power of parter" on Eng
@davidbarcia5266
@davidbarcia5266 6 жыл бұрын
Great, great, great!!! any chance of no gi technics? all blessings master
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!I am very pleased)👍
@Maruckus1
@Maruckus1 10 ай бұрын
Ude gaeshi is the judo name
@liljohnnotbigjohn
@liljohnnotbigjohn 5 жыл бұрын
is this just for gi, or can you grab the neck with the lapel hand? That is, try to grab or cup the back of the neck instead of the lapel? I'm completely new to Jiu Jitsu, please excuse me if this is a dumb question.
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 4 жыл бұрын
search russian tie trow
@shanimasoudi7362
@shanimasoudi7362 5 жыл бұрын
ossu!
@doni654321
@doni654321 3 ай бұрын
👌
@MrStrikeforce1987
@MrStrikeforce1987 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! How do you do this without the jacket ?
@oceanlindgren9540
@oceanlindgren9540 6 жыл бұрын
I was taught a variation from the Russian tie, wher you stick your head under their armpit, sit back and roll
@MrStrikeforce1987
@MrStrikeforce1987 6 жыл бұрын
ocean lindgren thank you
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having responded))
@comic_food_guy
@comic_food_guy 6 жыл бұрын
👍🏽🙏🏽👏🏽
@furyano1251
@furyano1251 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Vertusca legal to throw on Judo?
@irfanousman4263
@irfanousman4263 6 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@marcosyy87
@marcosyy87 Жыл бұрын
👍
@matthewbittenbender9191
@matthewbittenbender9191 5 жыл бұрын
Question: Can this be done without a gi? Obviously the wrist can be grabbed but what about the other arm going on/across the chest? Grabbing the singlet is not allowed. I coach folk style wrestling in high school and love to teach upper body. I’m a big fan of a Japanese wizzer/arm roll and this has some similar elements. We teach a Russian tie as one set up and vertushka would be a great move from that set up. Anyone have an answer to this?
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 5 жыл бұрын
there is a no-gi version. a wrestler i train with (
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 2 жыл бұрын
russian tie trow you can find it on youtube
@유수선-y1h
@유수선-y1h 2 жыл бұрын
3:05 UKR...ㅜㅜ War is Cruel
@asengeorgiev7848
@asengeorgiev7848 Жыл бұрын
Is this throw dangerous to do against newbies, say in BJJ?
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 11 ай бұрын
so so
@marksoberay2318
@marksoberay2318 6 жыл бұрын
Hansu for not control? Can you explain that?...or was it for locking a joint then throwing?
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 4 жыл бұрын
When you trow you have to continue - there is no ippon in sambo so you can make that lock to made submission after trow
@Supernatpy
@Supernatpy 6 жыл бұрын
Please, don't blur the video at the end of the clip
@SiavashJaredAndinoBernhard
@SiavashJaredAndinoBernhard 6 жыл бұрын
Имя Фамилия But i like it though.(I'm honest. Not trolling)
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 4 жыл бұрын
Иван сделай видосы с разбором приемов из фильма John Wick - Джон Уик - по легенде белорус самбист - и всех всегда интересует какой стиль у него. Ясно что Самбо - никак не Дзюдо и это видно в фильме. Будет очень популярное видео
@fernandosantanacorrea1557
@fernandosantanacorrea1557 6 жыл бұрын
Top, parabéns. Oss
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!👍👍👍
@rafalniewiarowski6158
@rafalniewiarowski6158 Жыл бұрын
👍🏆💪
@MrBluemanworld
@MrBluemanworld 5 жыл бұрын
Vertushka!
@ucchamburg
@ucchamburg 5 жыл бұрын
gute arbeit
@tomwalker389
@tomwalker389 2 жыл бұрын
Yoko Wakare!
@Italiangentleman2394
@Italiangentleman2394 2 жыл бұрын
Hey ivan are there belts in sambo?
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera
@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera 2 жыл бұрын
no, and its a problem in my opinion
@Italiangentleman2394
@Italiangentleman2394 2 жыл бұрын
@@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera Could you make a video on it
@Italiangentleman2394
@Italiangentleman2394 2 жыл бұрын
In America they started a sambo belt system which my coach does have a black belt in, but it has struggled. I would like to hear your opinion on a belt system and sambo from someone who grew up in a country where it was originated
@marksoberay2318
@marksoberay2318 6 жыл бұрын
I dont think this is legal in Judo, because you can't control a joint then throw.
@MeroGrumble
@MeroGrumble 6 жыл бұрын
It is an old judo move (ude gaeshi). I remember seeing two different versions in a book (I think either in Kashiwazaki's _Fighting Judo_ or Okano's _Vital Judo_ ), one being mentioned as forbidden under sport rules and the other one being accepted. I also saw an accepted variation in Komuro's _Ne waza_ . I think it is still acceptable in judo competition if you hold the sleeve instead of the wrist (since there is indeed a joint lock in this case).
@marksoberay2318
@marksoberay2318 6 жыл бұрын
@@MeroGrumble true sleeves and ne waza i believe are legal versions
@MeroGrumble
@MeroGrumble 6 жыл бұрын
@@marksoberay2318 In my comment, "ne waza" is the the name of a book a mentioned, "Judo ne waza of Koji Komuro Komlock" :) . It contains several throws chosen to transition into favourable newaza positions and it includes ude gaeshi as I said (so, since the book is relatively recent, I guess there is definitely a "legal" variation).
@bsharaboata7861
@bsharaboata7861 6 жыл бұрын
Aurélien Ballagny what's the book name i would like to buy one from amazon ☺
@MeroGrumble
@MeroGrumble 6 жыл бұрын
@@bsharaboata7861 I have just checked, ude gaeshi appears in: - *Fighting Judo, by Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki* It is an awesome book but it is no longer printed and you can only find VERY expensive second-hand paper versions sold by speculators. However, you can also find it online... - *Vital Judo: throwing techniques* (there is another volume specifically on grappling techniques that is awesome), *by Isao Okano* Same thing as the first book, it is awesome but you will only find expensive second-hand books in English. Once again, the alternative is to download it (though there is still a printed Italian edition... if you read Italian). - *Judo Newaza of Koji Komuro Komlock, by Koji Komuro* This book deals with less techniques than the two first ones but it is a great book nevertheless. It is very newaza-oriented for modern judo competitions and it suggests not just a set of techniques but a way to organise your game, focusing especially on transitions from standing to ground game. You can order it both in paper version and ebook (even DVD I think). Enjoy
@MeroGrumble
@MeroGrumble 6 жыл бұрын
1:00 Of course he did not invent this move (ude gaeshi / vertushka), it is so old that you can find black and white footage of Kyuzu Mifune (dead in 1965) performing it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5mzZKqCZt6GaNU
@warriorbushido9663
@warriorbushido9663 5 жыл бұрын
Is this legal in judo?
@andresaguilar2235
@andresaguilar2235 5 жыл бұрын
No
@عبدالوهابعلي-ش5ي
@عبدالوهابعلي-ش5ي 4 жыл бұрын
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@kingpin7726
@kingpin7726 3 жыл бұрын
Süper
@beyondmeaning
@beyondmeaning 6 жыл бұрын
So ... yoko wakare but it works without you being a God of Judo ?
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 4 жыл бұрын
who searches no GI variation - search Russian Tie trow at youtube
@xjoshsaucex
@xjoshsaucex 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a no gi variation?
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 3 жыл бұрын
russian tie trow - search it on youtube
@Beaunage
@Beaunage 3 жыл бұрын
Can this be done in no gi?
@zenly_csgo
@zenly_csgo 3 жыл бұрын
russian tie trow - search it on youtube
@randybowman
@randybowman 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a nogi arm spin?
@sambofusion9486
@sambofusion9486 4 жыл бұрын
David Dersteins yes. Done often in Greco and freestyle
@socalbeachieboy6135
@socalbeachieboy6135 4 жыл бұрын
@@sambofusion9486 is that your voice translating?
@sambofusion9486
@sambofusion9486 4 жыл бұрын
@@socalbeachieboy6135 yes
@ThisSentenceIsFalse
@ThisSentenceIsFalse 5 жыл бұрын
New toy!
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