Go to this link to win a $500 Revgear gift card: revgear.com/hard2hurtemailsignup/
@davidguymon1673 Жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with the Taco Bell butt clench.
@SenseiSeth Жыл бұрын
Woah late night release for Icicle Michael
@rudramajumder1949 Жыл бұрын
IcyMikesicle
@saure22 Жыл бұрын
What does that make you then Seth?
@redmetalpanda9051 Жыл бұрын
That's right, Sensei SethGodOfWarAndChaos
@simonrn8311 Жыл бұрын
Clearly Icicle Mikesicle
@MrJustinpatrick16 Жыл бұрын
RIGHT !! 😂 HE NEVER DOSE LATE NIGHT POSTS
@hard2hurt Жыл бұрын
At 6:30 Natalia expertly saves you from a long tangent!
@daniellanczi-wilson9549 Жыл бұрын
"Apex of the skull du sac" is possibly my favourite Icy Mike line ever! As a fellow baldy, I'm definitely stealing that one.
@atomicalien4 Жыл бұрын
''we look like nasty dirt asses'' was a close 2nd.
@DaveElwoodCutter Жыл бұрын
Great video and very detailed. As a side note/anecdote: I found the open hands not to be as common as some "muay thai nerds" may wanna make us believe. It's often taught like that especially in the west (and probably the most common one in the west like you said) but most Thais I've seen and trained with will immediately go for a gable grip or another hand lock once they get both arms on the inside. Back during the golden age the open hands were more common as clinch was generally more of a flow while exchanging knees and elbows. Nowadays they lock up pretty quickly and refs separate fighters much quicker as well.
@suhribzevolution6456 ай бұрын
Thank you from Thailand 🇹🇭🙏
@KyeCreates Жыл бұрын
The best clinch is the hug my parents give me before i go outside. Its inescapable 😂
@Mattseak Жыл бұрын
Can they throw knees from that position though?
@KyeCreates Жыл бұрын
@@Mattseak Probably 😂
@Mattseak Жыл бұрын
😂@@KyeCreates
@alias0449 Жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear; my neck is broken from clinching
@hard2hurt Жыл бұрын
That was fast...
@Elliot882 Жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurtwhen you post a video they start practicing mike.
@denisl2760 Жыл бұрын
well, it could've been worse
@MyZ001 Жыл бұрын
How did you break your own neck while applying the clinch😆
@whorton1978 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm. Just started muay thai and by the second class we were doing double collar drills. It is *extremely* hard to come up with a plan when you're staring at somebody's t-shirt while you're getting shaken around and kneed in the liver.
@jacobstewart2235 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned how to use this clinch in breifly another video a long time ago, and it really helped me get a lot better in this position. I'm glad to see it covered in more detail.
@gw1357 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Finding someone who likes to clinch to practice with is key. Then you can work on snaking between different clinch positions so that you're always one step ahead of the captured.
@SUP3RM4N_73 Жыл бұрын
"You can be learning this while we're doing this." 💯 TELL 'EM, COACH! 🤣
@DoodlesBee Жыл бұрын
I agree
@hard2hurt Жыл бұрын
Pretty ballsy move.
@amrey3628 Жыл бұрын
Awesome demonstration. Funny this notification got my eye when it did. I've been studying, practicing, training with Muy Thai ever since I found your channel a couple years ago. It sounds corny but you did motivate me to want to learn practical self defense. And, yeah that clinch is a headache and a half it somebody gets it on you lol. Congrats on the channel being so successful and all the work you do. Major respect and best wishes to you.
@Joe_C. Жыл бұрын
I've several times found myself inadvertently doing the muay Thai clinch on the drive home from eating some Pad Thai at 'questionable' restaurants
@isaacvalentin47866 ай бұрын
Wrist watch to elbow, lift from there with the wrist, go the direction they take you and change levels then either shove or strike depending on the distance they create by attempting to counter! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@u45.- Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for no nonsense detail oriented clinch video like this for a while to complement my judo ashiwaza (foot trips) game as and potentially set up even a throw. The reason is because I'd love to incorporate knees and elbows in tty o my no gi judo and to be able to make this a really it need the kasushi (off balance) ! Thanks icy m.. .
@NemanjaNislija Жыл бұрын
Check out Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu - just search her channel for "clinch". She's a professional fighter living and fighting in Thailand for like a decade now, training with a host of Golden Era greats. There's an hour-long video on clinch, which is also her specialty as a knee fighter.
@billyg.personaltraining Жыл бұрын
Video requests Overhand right Sprawls Solo room clearing What it was like sparring Sanchai
@rockmanxja6 ай бұрын
Good explanations that all the clinching positions are good as long as they apply enough control to the opponent. One thing I want to point out though, the control is not by applying force through squeezing. The clinch is to break the opponent's structure with your structure enough that you can manipulate it. The control should be established by having a good body structure not muscles. Once good control is established, manipulation of the opponent's body is through projecting power through the grapple (again with structure and gravity not muscles) and moving your entire body. Once the proper clinch is established If the opponent doesn't have 100 lbs over you, he or she should feel like a rag doll every single time, because his or her structure is broken, so no power can be used. This is how golden age muay thai fighters could clinch and tossed much bigger people like it was nothing.
@Dbdilly Жыл бұрын
Grabbing testicles is the best escape from this 😂
@cainabel2009 Жыл бұрын
lol, grab anyone testicles and you can bring the biggest guy to their knees unless you one off those guys who can take a kick to the nuts. There was a KZbin video I saw were a guy had taken hundred of kicks to the nuts he had developed a nutsack that was incredible strong. The sack was so strong he could taken a kick from a 6 ft 5 man who was 300 pounds. Here is the video if you want to watch it just past it on youtube "World Record Kick to the Groin [Documentary]" With this guy grabbing his testicles won't do any good since he can literally take a kick.
@josecano3265 ай бұрын
I can see you know a lot about grabbing testicles
@Joru0906 Жыл бұрын
I miss seeing Jay, where is the big guy?
@thepants1450 Жыл бұрын
Seth ate him
@Alekth85 Жыл бұрын
He got tired of being pepper sprayed and beat up with a wip.
@Squisky Жыл бұрын
Oh Spiciest of the Iciest Mikes; please bring back the podcast my liege.
@rabidrjmma1211 Жыл бұрын
Stood up and danced for joy seeing this in my recommended
@briane9238 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I am decent at clinch and Dieselnoi helped me too. I thought you might miss something, but I have nothing to add.
@CyclingMartialartswithMusic Жыл бұрын
You studied under Dieselnoi? Lucky you.
@briane9238 Жыл бұрын
@@CyclingMartialartswithMusic Just a bit and to hang out. Also Petchboonchu for clinch. I’ll be back to see those guys soon…it’s more just for fun and to hang now than hard training.
@CyclingMartialartswithMusic Жыл бұрын
@@briane9238 i envy you. Those are my heroes. Dieselnoi, Petchboonchu, Yodkhunpon, Yodwicha and Thanadet. Clinch Masters. Haha. I know Im being too much here.
@briane9238 Жыл бұрын
@@CyclingMartialartswithMusic I know Yodkhunpon too. He is super fun to train with. Me and my buddy trained with him and he was always smiling and laughing. And he didn’t mind getting taken down…we were all playing like kids. The legends are all really cool.
@PingupowerMMA11 ай бұрын
the look on her face when mike casual says: "we try to seperate their head from their body"
@_NguyenMinh967 Жыл бұрын
hey mike can you do a video about the monkey fist or the watch dogs2 thunder ball
@gnarlywagner8171 Жыл бұрын
The full plume is a reference to plume (frill) of a tuxedo
@victorhesseling1520 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice and clearly explainend. Can’t wait for the next one to come out. Greetings from the netherlands
@alexanderren1097 Жыл бұрын
Mike I know Karate Kata isn’t really your thing but I find it to be great timing that you made this video while I’ve been researching the real applications for the kata I started learning 20 tears ago. Turns out that Tekki Shodan (Naihanchi Shodan in some styles) is all about clinch fighting and the very opening move represents getting this exact clinch. The kata also has the under hook “Muay Thai” clinch too. Thanks!
@wearedisturbed Жыл бұрын
Tekki shodan is never used in shotokan in kumite tho.
@alexanderren1097 Жыл бұрын
@@wearedisturbed Yes I’m aware. That’s why I’m no longer a member of any Shotokan organization. Most modern karate styles don’t understand the movements in kata nor do they apply anything in a practical way. That’s why I’ve been looking at Patrick McCarthy, Iain Abernathy, and others’ videos and other content on practical karate applications
@brownsey1 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, my instant reaction was, that is a muay thai clinch, wtf!!! But then, yeah, took a split second to think, and you're right. The "traditional" idea of a muay thai clinch is rarely utilised by pros. You see the back of the neck clinch in amateur fights a lot, and it usually descends into a sh*t show, but the pros control the arms through underhooks and overhooks etc., to land knees.
@gw1357 Жыл бұрын
Someone once explained to me that it's called the "plum" because you're holding the guy's head in front of your face the way a monkey holds a plum when he eats it. Elbows bent and down, two hands on the plum, close to your face, etc. Protecting the plum so another monkey doesn't take it. I have no idea if that is remotely accurate, but I thought it at least made some intuitive sense.
@someirishkid92419 ай бұрын
I don't remember where I saw this, and I haven't been able to find anyone talking about it, but I was under the impression that it's not actually the English word 'plum' at all, it's a Thai word that's pronounced more like the English 'plume'. Idk what it actually means, though.
@EggShen905 Жыл бұрын
She puts one hand under her own face and grabs over your bicep from the inside, then repeats on the other side. She then uses this brace the push up on her own forehead and force your grip open, or stop you from pushing down.
@rudramajumder1949 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@alexbdagger Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the what to do with your hands video.
@jackstretch-jones1430 Жыл бұрын
@Natalia, Try gripping the skin of the under arm with the thumb an 2nd knuckle of 1st finger
@cerberuscombatmma Жыл бұрын
I like this channel, but Mike literally said never do a neck tie. 😂😂😂 A neck tie is one of the best clinches (Interlocking the fingers).
@Sprite7778iron Жыл бұрын
Mike do you think thai clinch is good for self-defence?
@lucasfelipe-ze5sy Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it is awesome, but you should have some grappling skill just in case the other person knows grappling
@ahmedalp3531 Жыл бұрын
Learn bjj. Muay thai techniques are good for it but clinch is not
@ancientdarkness3102 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedalp3531it is, Its very effective if the opponent aint a greco Roman or a freestyle wrestler or a judoka or a grappler. But against most strikers and oc untrained people it works just fine
@lucasfelipe-ze5sy Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedalp3531 The "Muay Thai clinch" was used successfully many times in UFC against excellent jiu jitsu guys. Anderson Silva is the best example
@Jay-ho9io Жыл бұрын
Dude this is disrespectful. You can't put "skull de sac" *and* "angle of moment" in the same video. I'm trapped between which deserves the most recognition.
@atomicalien4 Жыл бұрын
i enjoyed ''dirt asses''
@official_liberal_chungus7825 Жыл бұрын
Hey mike can you do a how to do saenchai's cartwheel kick he does
@jolier13137 ай бұрын
How do we get into and out of the clinch now?
@eliotquintana98023 ай бұрын
Icy show muay thai techniques grabs
@RiccardoThai6 ай бұрын
Nn è che sia un gran lavoro per un video così lungo..cose che si spigano e si dimostrano in 5 minuti
@suhribzevolution6456 ай бұрын
Wow kru muay Falang Sawaddee kab kru 🙏🙏🇹🇭🇹🇭
@denizwieteck Жыл бұрын
it's called Muay Plum /Plam because that's how the Thais call it, Plum means wrestling/ pummeling ... all gribs u showed are part of Muay Plam, best advice was don't lean your head towards your opponent, always head up, shoulders back, knees slightly bend, legs parallel and on the balls of your foot, the double collar tie is the best position you could get but a skilled fighter won't allow u to get it, in my opinion best hand position is grabbing my wrist and my thumb of the other hand on the back of ya head, my head under the chin, strong arm pulling down with forearm on your shoulder or let's say between shoulder and brest, palm facing towards me that's very important, also it's very important to grab the back of the head not neck if you do it with both hands, with one you grab the neck on the opposite side for example using left hand your fingers are on the ride side the other hand is controlling the left arm of the opponent... love your content Mike keep it up... greets from Germany (+20 years in Muay Thai) 😁✌🏼🙏🏼
@g8trg8tr30 Жыл бұрын
Mike, as a shorter dude, don’t you prefer the top of the head underneath pressed against their jaw/face then gable grip to close it clinch? Equally as hard to escape from, less effort to get, easier to make and take space with the hips AND it turns their head sideways so they don’t have access to much of their strength anymore PLUS they literally cannot move up or down. I don’t like this one pulling people down to that finishing posture is hard+they have access to my lower back and legs with their arms. The only downside is it fucking hurts on your training partner. Am I just too stupid or am I onto something here?
@BMO_Creative Жыл бұрын
Yeah man! a Muay Thai clinch is any clinch while doing Muay Thai! LOL
@4-a-e Жыл бұрын
Stupid question how do know if you're the winner of the rev gear gift card?
@noahlinhart1344 Жыл бұрын
Just curious: Where'd Jay go?
@Rai3 Жыл бұрын
I think of this position like mount in jits. Not even the best clinch position, like how back mount is better, and a lot of grapplers feel better in top side control than mount.
@hardydownunder Жыл бұрын
Always love your content Icy Mike. tho where is Cliff? miss his scary smile haha
@aakashbirdi96423 сағат бұрын
Hand positioning with gloves, especially 16oz is quite difficult
@kevindiaz8583 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a how to counter knees and Muay Thai clinch video next !
@Jedi_Jed Жыл бұрын
Would you advise to not do this outside of sport? It seems high risk because it occupies both your hands and the opponent has full access to the belt line with both hands. Sorry I tend to be knife centric
@Alekth85 Жыл бұрын
Once youre in the clinch you dont just stand there. The knees work and elbows work too, as well as trips. Muay thai fighters are more dangerous in the clinch then on the outside. You do not want to get full power knee into your ribcage. Its game over.
@andredubbs4854 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on how to get to the clinch
@hb91456 ай бұрын
Once you start seeing hooks, just grab them. ;)
@thagrifster594 Жыл бұрын
Why did this video take so long. Great info.
@chrisjordan6432 Жыл бұрын
small detail that im not sure actually makes a real difference. I was always taught to rotate my hands so that my fingers are pointing at my face.
@hb91456 ай бұрын
Eight years of Muay Thai here: I don't mean to be rude, but you are not doing it completely right. 1. Lock four fingers to your open hand as close to the thumb on as you can. 2. Don't grab the neck; grab the top back of the head. You'll need much less leverage to control your opponent. 3. Rest your elbows on the collar bones 4. Squeeze your elbows tightly together 5. Always keep your opponent off balance (twist, turn, bend to avoid counters) and land knees To get out of the clinch: 1. Never ever try to duck out of it. You'll duck into a knee. 2. Straighten your back and keep your hips close to his. Never give him distance to land a knee. 3. Open your hand, lay it across your opponent's eyes to take away his vision. Just give him a good push with your open hand, and he will let go. 4. Give him a good teep or a flying knee once he lets go. Keep your hands up if you try the latter. Don't drop them on the way in.
@ziphy_64712 ай бұрын
But he said most of those
@hb91452 ай бұрын
@@ziphy_6471 Yes, it was OK, but not optimal. That is why I wrote it.
@heartofsteel8808 Жыл бұрын
How to get out of it , please
@gotredeemed Жыл бұрын
That's not a Beacon, it's a heliport. Thanks.
@dirtpoorchris Жыл бұрын
The way ur doing it looks more like a heads wrench and twisting the head might be fatty illegal in most sports. You can face check and choke but I don't think you can wrench the neck.
@simonbut8062 Жыл бұрын
“You motor boating SOB” lol
@kevinmurphy5878 Жыл бұрын
Based
@I_Magni_I Жыл бұрын
Ummm how would you defend a double or single leg take down ? In that position. I’ve never really tested that type of clinch . I guess you'd just try and sprawl but thay get a good head start if your not expecting it .
@hard2hurt Жыл бұрын
Same way I would defend if they did a backflip with me still holding on
@I_Magni_I Жыл бұрын
Yes belittle my simple question. You should thank me I’m giving you a video idea…..
@atomicalien4 Жыл бұрын
what the fuck are u on about?
@someirishkid92419 ай бұрын
@@I_Magni_Iyeah, Mike has... Extremely low patience for 'what if they did this' questions, probably because they're so common and kind of rarely asked in good faith. Asking those kinds of questions in the comments of his videos is a pretty surefire way to get a dismissive answer. To actually answer your question, though, the answer is that the position itself should be a defence to the takedown. He mentioned that the clinch should be secure enough that they can't move their head up, left, right, or crucially, *down*. If your opponent can't get their shoulder to your hip, they won't be able to make a real, threatening takedown attempt.
@NickPilmeyer Жыл бұрын
"Skull-de-sac" 🤣
@dannydagerous Жыл бұрын
hi mike
@malkomalkavian Жыл бұрын
What do you do with your hands?
@Rai3 Жыл бұрын
Work inside their arms.
@perceptioninception2739 Жыл бұрын
W
@hard2hurt Жыл бұрын
Maybe.
@swerv880911 ай бұрын
4:29 she saw her maker
@turboblenderofficial46845 ай бұрын
watch Joe Moncayo vs Dieselnoi to find how devastating the double collar is
@texanborn77479 ай бұрын
Towards the end of the video you ended up kneeing while in the clinch…when you said not to. I think it’s useful
@hard2hurt9 ай бұрын
You're confused.
@texanborn77479 ай бұрын
@@hard2hurtI was, my bad. My A.D.D. Got caught in the window of not paying attention. Sorry Sir.
@june2friday Жыл бұрын
Wow
@humptydumty662910 ай бұрын
He is literally Saul Goodman 😂
@AntonioNoll-lw2rg Жыл бұрын
Hey I think they should change it to for the white belt get not give away of the sparring aspect but make it farther away like put them under the lemon tree basically you know when everybody's Barney they're the learning how to use the move on a training partner but also the train far is not going to 100 and 85 mi an hour is just going five of his BJJ baby the instructor if he has like five new students than five or on a tree and as he gets more and more students you know when I'm on the living tree and then a year down the line or two years down the line the test for the blue belt by then they're already know every position in Jiu-Jitsu and they should be able to defend a blue belt or a purple
@cainabel2009 Жыл бұрын
0:23 I Know what you thinking - nope that's not I was thinking I was thinking she's so beautiful and I love to be the one hugging her..... you know for practice purpose only lol. All jokes aside that was good because in movies that what they use. Great that you showed us the correct way.
@WtfIsLigma Жыл бұрын
That's just creepy bud
@cainabel2009 Жыл бұрын
@@WtfIsLigma Clearly you never heard of a joke. I even stated "All jokes aside"
@someirishkid92419 ай бұрын
It being a joke doesn't make it not creepy, mate.
@sheesshhhhhh18 күн бұрын
You're weird. Lol.
@JasonLaveKnotts6 ай бұрын
No.
@hardcorecampinggear Жыл бұрын
Seems like she'd have some pretty knarly rib shots, no?
@tpolo2050 Жыл бұрын
Not if he’s keeping u off balance by turning u…then he’ll be shooting knees so more than likely ur hands will be occupied trying to block and eventually u will get swept from clinch
@denisl2760 Жыл бұрын
She could punch, but if you're trading punches for knees its a losing battle.
@ThePaper1 Жыл бұрын
Mike! You never get someone in a clinch after they laid their edges. That's just disrespectful 😥
@factsondeck1552 Жыл бұрын
I need a sparing partner like that 😂
@manuelzapata1192 Жыл бұрын
👍
@tbone6203 Жыл бұрын
Was talkin to my bro who was a co at a fed pen- he said same shit u showed - i asked him did they teach u that shit he said he watched the og old dogs on the yard- martial arts training no - prison fig it out quick n fast no yt no training just shit that works
@DaanSnqn Жыл бұрын
3:57 why is that the best one?
@Rai3 Жыл бұрын
More leverage and the sharper side of your forearm.
@DaanSnqn Жыл бұрын
@@Rai3 thanks
@megamanx766 Жыл бұрын
Anderson Silva annihilated Rich Franklin with this technique.
@crossfitmolokai Жыл бұрын
"Plaam" is the Thai word for wrestling...
@neilturner3305 Жыл бұрын
Motorboat 😂😂😂
@pubjitsuguy8596 Жыл бұрын
Triangle - she needs to press her head into your chest and double leg u pushing forward fast and hard before you can turn her. Don’t you think thats a really dangerous street move? Maybe ok if just trying to control but not hurt a drunk
@pubjitsuguy8596 Жыл бұрын
The triangle of head on chest two hands behind legs. Three control points I mean sorry
@Rai3 Жыл бұрын
Could work if they suck. But the forearm frame on their collar is a line of defense in wrestling. You’ll see that with wrestling collar ties. So they have to clear that in order to shoot. That frame should be active and your hips should be back, but if you suck they can do a lot of shit to you. They could even just pry your face away if you suck.
@MFL11111 Жыл бұрын
Your feet need to be squared
@4xdblack Жыл бұрын
You don't want to ruffle too many feathers in one video? That's a lie...
@cantap9566 Жыл бұрын
❤🙏👍
@mastra9065 Жыл бұрын
Cant the clinched person not just throw punches to the body?
@Rai3 Жыл бұрын
Punches to the body versus knees to the body is a bad trade.
@nicholasneyhart39611 ай бұрын
Yes, but that is a desperation technique.
@G17-k6f Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the keychain extension whip? You need to do a breakdown of that. Thats right up your alley.
@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 Жыл бұрын
I think mike should probably have someone else to show the clinch escape. Lol.
@BoSijuwade Жыл бұрын
I only watch the videos she’s in. She’s so beautiful to me
@John.Doe-OG Жыл бұрын
Mike, you need to get some color on those ghastly legs. They are neon white.
@thefightknight5881 Жыл бұрын
Why shouldn't we interlock fingers for the thai plum?
@atomicalien4 Жыл бұрын
its gay
@ShikariBilla-zq9yc Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this getting kneed in the head. Please send help
@sto6772 Жыл бұрын
Do something with your hands
@ShikariBilla-zq9yc Жыл бұрын
@@sto6772 i did but now he switched to elbows. My face is fucked
@andrewcain6518 Жыл бұрын
She should just go to the body.😂
@babybopkidsrock5713 Жыл бұрын
Just walk around with a fly in your hair.....
@aranhamacaco94254 ай бұрын
Smh
@kenmercer8112 Жыл бұрын
Is muay how you spell moi thai?? lol
@wgnwBash8 ай бұрын
Very uncomfortable to watch. Feel like I know what she was thinking
@253MC Жыл бұрын
Love all your students/demo partners, but Natalia is definitely my favourite. I think it's something about her sweet looks and personality but also being a total badass who could beat most of our asses 😅