How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way by Stan Lee and John Buscema

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@EngineerLume
@EngineerLume 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite thing about this book is that it has basically stayed in print from when it was released to now and is possibly one of the most popular drawing books ever released.
@donndavis2920
@donndavis2920 3 жыл бұрын
“How to Draw Comics the Fantagraphic Way” is my favorite line from this video
@DoogieHorner
@DoogieHorner 3 жыл бұрын
They nailed it. I was thinking the same thing.
@christophernixonart
@christophernixonart 3 жыл бұрын
I remember finally getting my own copy of this book the same year the Michael Keaton Batman came out. I would copy the pages over and over in my sketchbook, and eventually start making my own comic pages. I learned a lot of basic principles of drawing from it that I still think about today. As simple as this book is, it had a huge influence on me as an artist.
@OldManMilner
@OldManMilner 3 жыл бұрын
First, I see homies dropping the comments, but not dropping the likes, don't forget to support the channel! Second, Ed mentions muscles several times in this vid - the best book I found to learn to draw muscles is actually a weight training book called, "Strength Training Anatomy" by Delavier. It's an amazing resource for learning where muscles insert into the bones, and how they overlap. Furthermore, you see examples of muscles in flexion and relaxation. For muscles, its better than any artist anatomy book I've ever read (and I've read many).
@demetriusdillard2863
@demetriusdillard2863 Жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly one of the greatest how-to-draw-and-how-not-to-draw art books ever published, bar none! Even though it was published way back in 1978, many of the techniques utilized in How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way still hold up to this very day! And it's remained in print continuously for over four decades!
@oliverlee4033
@oliverlee4033 2 жыл бұрын
My dad bought this in 1978 when it first came out and then again twenty years later when he taught me to draw. It’s really quite magical to me somehow.
@andrewt6338
@andrewt6338 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this around 30 years ago and still reference it for guidance. It’s literally sitting on my dresser right now. The art techniques are interesting, no doubt, but the part that got my attention was the drama. I think Stan said something like “a Marvel character doesn’t simply walk into a room.” It’s gotta be dynamic. Everything has to be crazy.
@BeOurBee
@BeOurBee 2 жыл бұрын
This is still, hands-down my favorite HTD comics book. I think it's particularly good as a counterpoint to the manga-oriented HTDs out today because it focuses so much on dynamic, fluid construction. However, looking back on it after more than 30 years, some of the shortcomings are obvious and I think you guys touch on a lot of it. 1) No basic guide to muscle groups/forms, the kind of thing a beginning artist has no idea how to handle. Even though it spends time going over proportions, it says nothing about how bodies are built out of actual fleshy masses. You can pick up some of that stuff if you read between the lines and scrutinize their different examples of stick figures and finished pencils but it's never organized and explicated. 2) When it talks about composition, it should call out the elements in those abstracted examples. Even labeling the basic shapes as "foreground" or "midground" would do a lot to help explain what I'm looking at and where I would start building something like that in a panel or do my own formulas. No mention of "framing" or "triangular composition" or how an eye is guided from spot to spot in a panel. It's almost completely absent from that part of the book, a GLARING omission. As written, it's almost inscrutable. As a kid I looked at those and thought "Okay, but WHY those shapes?" It never clicked. Although they seem to market this to kids and have some very basic elements explained in the first few chapters, it actually assumes a lot of familiarity with the essentials. The middle half is more like an unofficial style guide for 70s/80s Marvel Comics than a from-the-ground-up guide for getting started in drawing.
@GeoffreyToday
@GeoffreyToday 3 ай бұрын
This book was huge for me when I was a kid. It lead to my first true "Eureka!" moment as an artist. After trying to learn how to draw properly proportioned figures through this book, I remained frustrated. My drawings were okay, and certainly better than they had been before I got the book, but something still wasn't working. Then, in a high school art class, for the first time we had a live model (non-nude obviously) and suddenly all of the figure drawing instructions clicked. It was like having a blindfold removed. I don't think that would have happened if I hadn't spent so long practicing the techniques in the book before my first life drawing experience. To this day, whenever any of the kids in my life who are into art reach a certain age, I always gift them this book.
@soulcraft_84
@soulcraft_84 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite books, and one of the best gifts I ever was given!
@Danny_Hynes
@Danny_Hynes 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember the feeling of finding this book and reading through and drawing along for the first time and you've bottled it here. Loved hearing your reactions to each page and so glad you both still have access to those initial reactions ("You want me to draw a book?!"). I was right there with you on every word for this one. Classic kayfabe. Thanks for this.
@KManifesto
@KManifesto 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the trip through Memory Lane (I actually followed along with my copy). As a kid, I couldn't get enough of this book. I must have bought at least 3 copies over the years. I'm with Ed, that tire sketch was always a challenge!
@28mmRPG
@28mmRPG 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's this was my first book that kickstarted my love of making superhero drawings... Along with Villains & Vigilantes Roleplaying game (with Jeff Dee's art). GREAT book, it taught me a lot. I wish I kept up with my drawing style but I made more money at flooring/tilesetting as a career.
@Rometiklan
@Rometiklan 3 жыл бұрын
There's a certain reverence for this book within the comic artist community, and for good reason. When I started drawing comics as a wee lad, this was the book I've always wanted to buy. I'd sign it out from the library and photocopy the whole book. It wasn't until high school I was finally able to buy a copy and paid full price for it which was $14 Canadian. It goes for $22 Canadian these days on Amazon. Thanks for the great trip down memory lane.
@BilSande4
@BilSande4 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes them memories. I got the hard copy of this book for my 15th birthday and I still have it 40 years later. (Sans dust jacket). Not only a great book on how to draw comics, but a great book on how to draw period. John Buscema was true master draftsman. (And is brother Sal ain't half bad either).
@neilsanzari9723
@neilsanzari9723 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from Jack Kirby, John Buscema was my favorite artist at the time until Moebius came on the scene. I was collecting Conan and the FF, and I think he was also doing Thor at the same time. Three books a month, two of them inked by Joe Sinnott, and Conan was inked by Ernie Chan. Might have been for a short period, because Rich Buckler, then John Byrne took over chores for the FF.
@mattprather3140
@mattprather3140 3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a copy of this gem in a Five Below. Had a battered copy from childhood and was very excited about getting a new copy. Just cracked the new one open to thumb through with you guys. Thanks guys. So much fun.
@MezTZO
@MezTZO 3 жыл бұрын
My brother used to have the hardcover version of this when we were young, and I read it all the time. Then a friend of his borrowed it and never returned it. Many years later, when I got a job and had money of my own, I found this version and bought it for myself.
@the_artistic_avenger
@the_artistic_avenger Ай бұрын
Great review! I couldn't agree more - "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way" is a fantastic resource for anyone starting their artistic journey. I totally understand the initial temptation to jump in and draw everything at once, leading to frustration. That's why I created a couple of videos to help break down the tutorials and make them more manageable. Thanks for the awesome review!
@skullhammerofficial8767
@skullhammerofficial8767 3 жыл бұрын
Still have my hardcover my dad got me when this first came out then got the VHS in the 80's. The bible for young cartoonists. Great video!
@danielmobley4638
@danielmobley4638 2 жыл бұрын
Got this book at age 13 (1995) and thought I’d found El Dorado, lol. Really helped me understand the challenges and nuanced complexities of comic creation, though, and especially gave me a foundation for figure construction, gesture poses, etc.👍💥💥💥
@jabbajuju
@jabbajuju 3 жыл бұрын
Octobriana at Target??? That's crazy!
@jinchoung
@jinchoung 3 жыл бұрын
i borrowed it from the public library and renewed as much as i could. i think i didn't actually buy my own copy until after college. absolutely seminal.
@theartofSkinner
@theartofSkinner 3 жыл бұрын
The video for this. The vhs of how to draw comics the Marvel way is hilarious cuz John buscema is kinda grumpy.
@frdh1357
@frdh1357 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he rolls his eyes at Stan's jokes and attempts at taking credit. And I don't think it was supposed to get caught on camera.
@kullenberg
@kullenberg 3 жыл бұрын
That video is the biggest dick tease ever. You expect to see Buscema draw, but it's virtually none of that in the video. He literally just air traces with the pencil over the already finished drawings. I know there's other footage of him drawing, but it's such a shame. Recording his real process in detail would have been immensely valuable.
@erichall1
@erichall1 Ай бұрын
The villain heads page was my favorite. Drew the heck out of that page back in the day.
@soundwave1976
@soundwave1976 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! One of my favorite books!
@pavpyro433
@pavpyro433 Жыл бұрын
This is bringing back nostalgia. I got this book when I was 9 and still use these techniques.
@fad23
@fad23 3 жыл бұрын
Classic! Can't wait to watch this!
@stampscapes
@stampscapes 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Still have my copy from '79 or so. Used to study it as a kid all the time.
@1daniel66
@1daniel66 2 жыл бұрын
Found your channel recently and am enjoying your content. I remember asking for this book for Christmas and getting it. How I poured through it! Still have it to this day. Thanks for the nostalgia and keep up the good work!
@DoogieHorner
@DoogieHorner 3 жыл бұрын
Jim, Wolverine 10 was my first comic too! I was also blown away and reread it many, many times.
@killiandw
@killiandw 3 жыл бұрын
This book taught me to draw
@neilsanzari9723
@neilsanzari9723 3 жыл бұрын
I remember getting this book for Christmas 🎄 when it first came out.
@russworks2882
@russworks2882 3 жыл бұрын
I can just see Robert Crumb picking this book up and having an epiphany. "It's so clear to me now! I've been wrong all along!" A good follow up to this video would be the Comics Journal #226, the "Hacking" issue, which does have a transcription of Buscema giving a lecture on how to take short cuts and crank out comics like a factory worker, as well as an argument between Gil Kane and Groth about what it means to be a hack.
@frdh1357
@frdh1357 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this. Just started drawing 90 days ago and Im using this book. I still struggling with that lamp!
@alphageekspeaks9248
@alphageekspeaks9248 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else wish they could get a sneak peek at that Red Room comic? 😂 Awesome stuff guys! And Ed, please post some more inking videos of Red Room.🙏
@landowalker5479
@landowalker5479 3 жыл бұрын
you can see all of that stuff over on Ed's patreon!
@sandstonecomics
@sandstonecomics 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent break down! Another book you may consider is The Marvel Try-Out Book. Would love to hear your analysis on that.
@DigitalOdyssey3001
@DigitalOdyssey3001 2 ай бұрын
As a child I loved comics, loved drawing and loved Marvel but was super frustrated by this book . It drove me crazy. They were so good and they made it sound so easy. But you guys are right - I just wanted to draw cool people doing cool poses. lol
@makoseda
@makoseda 3 жыл бұрын
Those DIY red room books look dope!
@LsElite4210
@LsElite4210 3 жыл бұрын
I was like the only kid to never have this book cuz I new I couldn’t draw lol 😂
@SpyridonTheWonderWkr
@SpyridonTheWonderWkr 3 жыл бұрын
LsElite 4210 Anyone can draw. Just practice. It’s never too late. :)
@Paul-ki8dg
@Paul-ki8dg 3 жыл бұрын
I have the original How to draw the Marvel Way with Stan Lee and John Buscema on VHS tape and yes Stan Lee talks and Buscema draws. I'll watch that. Thanks, nice page turn basics that lead to success
@carlosvazquez12
@carlosvazquez12 3 жыл бұрын
I had this book wen I was 12. It brough me a lot of memories!
@JaybayJay
@JaybayJay 3 жыл бұрын
Stan dropped a whole bunch of How To Art Books in the past if I remember correctly. How to draw scenes. How to draw the eye and add depth, things like that.
@davelanciani-dimaensionx
@davelanciani-dimaensionx 3 жыл бұрын
This book was a huge influence for me. I think I got it when it was first published back in 1978 for my 15th birthday. I still have it somewhere.
@brantkim
@brantkim 3 жыл бұрын
Had this book growing up as a kid and it was surprisingly helpful, even though some of the concepts as a 10 year old were a bit difficult.
@loringbush3319
@loringbush3319 3 жыл бұрын
Everything in this amsome and amazing book i learned in art school.
@bobfitzpatrick8952
@bobfitzpatrick8952 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! I got my copy of this book in 1979 on the advisement of my teacher, and I still have it at my work desk all these years later.
@Lars1284
@Lars1284 3 жыл бұрын
I. LOVE. YOU. TWO. Also, I definetely had Burne Hogarth's "Inventing muscles" XD
@ailenrivera862
@ailenrivera862 3 жыл бұрын
My personal nick name for Buscema is "The Way"
@matchezmalone
@matchezmalone 3 жыл бұрын
Where are we going without ever knowing The Way?
@natesgeeklounge
@natesgeeklounge 3 жыл бұрын
I had this. :)
@mrmegahousefly
@mrmegahousefly 3 жыл бұрын
I had one issue of a partwork of drawing Marvel comics. I gave it to a friend for her grandson. She thought it was too advanced for him, "He is only eight," but he loved it, and that issue was not about drawing Spider-Man or Captain America. I think the issue showed him how to draw Kung-Fu. He knew kung-fu but he had not heard of Kung-Fu. As she was an artist, she had all the stuff recommended in the book and they could work together.
@JLRoberson
@JLRoberson 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys go through David Chelsea's perspective book.
@bobfisher1992
@bobfisher1992 3 жыл бұрын
Alot of memories from childhood.
@neilsanzari9723
@neilsanzari9723 3 жыл бұрын
Just received Octobriana in the mail! What a beautiful book! It’s way more than a comic. I love the fluorescent color scheme, and Octobriana herself is fascinating. I’d love to see more of her in action. She’s pure manifestation of the heart of the Soviet counterculture. I’d love to see how she fits in today. Are her and Putin getting along these days even though he infiltrated this counterculture as Kid KGB, and had all of them kids sent to the Gulag Archipelago? Is she Melania’s ageless long-lost mother? So many questions, haha. And that Red Room kicks ass as well. Love the bootleg copies. Both properties have great compositions going on inside of their pages. Damn you guys are good. You will not be outworked. Kudos. Peace ✌️
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 3 жыл бұрын
Buscema Book= The Great and Powerful Guide to the Wizards of Marvel who bestowed their knownledge of fellow Masters to us lowely mortals!
@fad23
@fad23 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked David Chelsea's book on Comic Book Perspective!
@scarlet8078
@scarlet8078 3 жыл бұрын
Lol this was a book that kids tried to steal from our Barnes & Noble. It stayed in print for a long time & was relatively expensive. If you got caught, you could always pretend that you 'accidentally' put it in your bag with your school books 😂
@bobdole27
@bobdole27 3 жыл бұрын
Personally i think a lot of inkers and pencilers at Marvel today need read this how to and apply the knowledge
@timothymarkin3421
@timothymarkin3421 3 жыл бұрын
Got the hardcover for Christmas of 1978, a second printing. The dust jacket has a few rips (and imprints from all the drawing I did, using it as a board), but it’s still on my shelf, along with 90% of the Fireside books Marvel published back then.
@timothymarkin3421
@timothymarkin3421 3 жыл бұрын
Fireside was an imprint of Simon & Schuster btw
@patriciooliver
@patriciooliver 3 жыл бұрын
My mother game me this book in the 90s as a present and I was so so so frustrated with it, I was in the middle of the Jim Lee liefeld moment and this illustrations seem so difficult to reproduce. Which is funny cause I started reading comics in the 80s and my fav artists were Paul Smith Sal Buscema and Byrne so the style wasn’t a problem but it was away out of my league. Thanks for posting this! Cheers form Argentina 🇦🇷
@barkovision1048
@barkovision1048 3 жыл бұрын
Great book! Keep it next to my desk along with Jack Hamm Cartooning the Head and Figure and Dynamic Figure Drawing by Burne Hogarth
@JesseMoynihan
@JesseMoynihan 3 жыл бұрын
Life changing book
@adrianstroh3557
@adrianstroh3557 3 жыл бұрын
Had this when when I was a kid. I still sucked at drawing. Theres an art to drawing! 😎
@marcgeorgestewart42
@marcgeorgestewart42 3 жыл бұрын
Got a copy of that book for Christmas 5 years ago
@ishrivera7214
@ishrivera7214 Жыл бұрын
Mom Jeans !!!! Lmfao
@brianacebedo2636
@brianacebedo2636 3 жыл бұрын
Fireside, the publisher of this book, as well as "Bring on the Bad Guys" and a few others that Jim mentions was my first entry into comics. There was no such thing as trade paperbacks in those days, Marvel was publishing monthly comics, and that's it. To get reprints of the old stuff, we had to get mass market paperbacks like the ones Fireside put out. My mom bought me the Fireside Hulk book, because it was the 70s, and I would not shut the fuck up about the Lou Ferrigno show on TV. A lifetime of being a comic book degenerate followed.
@ChuloAA
@ChuloAA 2 жыл бұрын
Huh it's interesting I picked up an even later reprint of this and it omits a good chunk of the end
@madeinbrechin
@madeinbrechin 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a copy of How to Draw Comics The Marvel Way signed by Stan Lee.
@zipgun7132
@zipgun7132 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what you dudes think of Framed Ink.
@the_flushjackson
@the_flushjackson 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely picking up Octobriana 1976, missed the Kickstarter by a week. Patron of Red Room, well worth it - amazing stuff. FJ
@briangressett902
@briangressett902 3 жыл бұрын
I use to have this book and the video tape.
@MrGrouch86
@MrGrouch86 3 жыл бұрын
I got this book at the book fair in school. It's probably still at my parents house.
@roygbiv7370
@roygbiv7370 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this book at 5 below the other day
@Ayanami0001
@Ayanami0001 3 жыл бұрын
I used to pull this out in elementary school and try to fool kids into thinking I was drawing the Buscema sketches inside
@evening8990
@evening8990 3 жыл бұрын
such an important book for me, still cant draw for shit but I love those breakdown sketches
@abcbcd7974
@abcbcd7974 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, but man this is 80's nostalgia bomb for me.
@Therealmrmeow
@Therealmrmeow 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know when I got this but pretty sure it was a present from my folks.
@fad23
@fad23 3 жыл бұрын
When you pointed out the illustration of the artist at the drawing board, I'm not sure why I thought of the illustrations in The Joy of Sex. There's something about there way it looks like pencils I think, and pretty appropriate for the period it was first published.
@mattbraun5125
@mattbraun5125 3 жыл бұрын
This book was huge for me but Rich Buckler's "How to Become a Comic Book Artist" was, in my 12 year old brain, even better
@MrKago1
@MrKago1 3 жыл бұрын
lo, yeah. my copy fell apart too. I think I still have pieces of it in page protectors some where around here. I would just point out that the technique of drawing the skeletal frame first is the same technique taught in art schools when you are doing fine art. the only thing I would say they should've added to this is the concept of contrapossto.
@cyrusgraham292
@cyrusgraham292 3 жыл бұрын
i USED TO HAVE THAT BOOK
@neilsanzari9723
@neilsanzari9723 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are so lucky. When I was a teenager in the seventies, other kids would attack me in the streets for reading comics. Got into plenty of fistfights over that bs until I kicked a few of their butts, haha. Comics saved my life when my folks broke up. Talk about escapist fiction.
@riverfoux
@riverfoux 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@dannycruz5446
@dannycruz5446 3 жыл бұрын
That spiderman/surfer page is a pastiche of a couple of pages from silver surfer #14
@victorsixtythree
@victorsixtythree 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I spent so much time looking through that book when I was a kid. And I remember - page 68 (at 29:16) always looked like they printed it upside down to me. Am I wrong?
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 3 жыл бұрын
This is a classic book, the D.C. equivalent one is not bad either.
@derrickthompson4146
@derrickthompson4146 3 жыл бұрын
A favor, please check out "Rebels of the Realm" by E.Sterling Brown. Would love to see this as a graphic novel.
@thiagovieira800
@thiagovieira800 5 ай бұрын
"How to draw comics the fantagraphics way" LMAO
@andrewgraham6339
@andrewgraham6339 3 жыл бұрын
...but I want to draw comics the “Brian Bolland” way.
@WarTheory
@WarTheory 3 жыл бұрын
Nice I still got “how to drama the marvel way”
@jamestrickingtonIII
@jamestrickingtonIII 3 жыл бұрын
I got this book when I was 12, skipped right to the chapter about drawing figures and ended up quitting art for 4 years because I was so frustrated my stick figures didn't look as good as the ones in the book.
@aderemiporsche
@aderemiporsche 3 жыл бұрын
The irony of watching this video while paging through a Squirrel Girl comic.
@markmayerson
@markmayerson 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever noticed that page 68 is upside down? It's been like that since the book was first published and nobody ever corrected it.
@jasonfate8026
@jasonfate8026 3 жыл бұрын
We have a copy in our after school program
@loringbush3319
@loringbush3319 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Marvel redid the book written and drawn by Dan Jurgens
@hyperyami396
@hyperyami396 4 ай бұрын
I still don't understand why they didn't release several volumes of this type of book. If you look at comics and manga in modern times, there are so many talented artists, however the How to Draw books you find at your local bookstore are terrible. Drawing has several key principles that must be mastered in order for you to level up. Topics like Proportion, Form, Construction, Perspective, Anatomy, Gesture, Values, Color Theory, and Lighting should be explored in their own books, however you have these artists that cram everything into a single book and laugh all the way to the bank. Where's the 500-page How to Draw Comics and Manga books? How useful would it be to have ten volumes of those like an encyclopedia set for under $200? It takes time and dedication to provide example after example, with high quality illustrations to demonstrate accordingly. There are probably so many secrets and tips into making comics, but must remember that the people you empower today, might be coming to take your job away tomorrow. I know some professionals don't want to admit it, but it's true. Not every kid has the money to go to Calarts, SCAD or some overpriced art school. The same rules can be applied to free art tutorials online on KZbin and art courses you find online. Making 10-20 minute videos on how to draw an arm, leg, head, and body is beyond unacceptable and infuriating. Come check out my 2 hour course on How to Anatomy for only $39.99! It's all about how to make that quick buck for some of these guys. People that post videos on how to draw something and then they spent 10 minutes drawing their original character, so lazy. You also have to remember that professional artists talk about the point where an artist either wants to become a teacher or work in the industry, so this is why you have people that are talented illustrators, but suck at teaching and the great teachers, suck at drawing. I don't know if its a lack of passion and time for artists when creating these books that go over basic and advanced topics in such a short amount of time, or is it that their main objective is to make money. I understand you have to put food on the table, but when do we re-invent and improve the How to Draw book market. I know their are some very good instructional books at there, but they could be better. Learning styles differ, some people can pick up on concepts quickly with little help, while other need that extra attention.
@HowdyAleck.
@HowdyAleck. 3 ай бұрын
The fuck aaagh this IS gonna be a long night ain't it?
@awwn5934
@awwn5934 3 жыл бұрын
For more great pencil work maybe check out Geoff Darrow’s art book www.darkhorse.com/Books/27-573/Lead-Poisoning-The-Pencil-Art-of-Geof-Darrow-HC
@allluckyseven
@allluckyseven 3 жыл бұрын
Laughed out loud at the "How to draw comics the EXTREME way." No lessons on how to draw feet in that!
@denzilredden5096
@denzilredden5096 3 жыл бұрын
Starting the day off right
@kullenberg
@kullenberg 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if the current generation of Marvel artists even know about this book.
@cjansenATL
@cjansenATL 2 жыл бұрын
I believe George Bridgman taught Norman Rockwell. I thought his books were amazing.
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