This is so brilliant - previously I was told this trick only worked on white oak because of its tannins but adding your own tannin with the black tea is such a no brainer. Thank you for sharing!
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
No problem at all, happy to help!
@MrSlyQue3 жыл бұрын
Many videos out there with this method, but you actually took the time to show the how-to of the acetate. I thank you for the thoroughness!
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew, happy to help.
@robertthomas1286 Жыл бұрын
You can speed up the process by adding hydrogen peroxide to the vinegar. I still waited about a week to use it though.
@mgeorge4347 Жыл бұрын
Interesting... and thanks.
@jameslouder3 жыл бұрын
You will get an even deeper and more convincing black when you use this on white oak, whose tannin content is a lot higher than red oak's. On white oak you probably won't need the tea, though you can use it to balance the color on an uneven board. Black walnut also responds super well to this treatment.
@ronniebrummett499511 ай бұрын
New to the channel. But you laid everything out and made everything known. I’ve seen a few videos. But never anything about the black tea. Subscribed. Thank you sir.
@Wolf_Avery Жыл бұрын
Your video is very well laid out, concise and informative. Thank you.
@Bjornarp3 жыл бұрын
pressed subscribe the moment i saw that double clamp funnel holding solution. so simple so smart! Ebonizing oak is the only "staining" of oak acceptable imo!
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mgeorge4347 Жыл бұрын
Kick ass video. Deep yet simplistic.
@samr4868 Жыл бұрын
Love this video - super helpful! I’ve found trying this out, you make make the solution much quicker if you use strong 20% vinegar - sometimes referred to as ‘cleaning vinegar’ Hope it helps - keep up the good stuff!
@mgeorge4347 Жыл бұрын
When I was looked into cleaning vinegar it was full of chemicals. Strange as I was, corn wasn't one of the ingredients listed.
@suzannewinz1099 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed tutorial
@shyannerobberson9217 Жыл бұрын
if you were using this on a chair how would you recommend sealing the stain in? do you need to worry about transfer of iron onto white clothing and would it help prolong the life of the color?
@chefgarrin9 ай бұрын
Brilliant, can you do this to golden oak cabinets or does it only work on plain not previously stained oak. Tks
@_moondoggyАй бұрын
will these finsih bleed or rub off without a clear coat? what would be the best clear coat? wipe-on or spray?
@MoscaWoodworking5 жыл бұрын
by far better than the black stain I used in the past. I've got to give it a try
@Crowhollowwoodworks5 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! I’ve used a homemade walnut stain in the past also, it darkened the wood but it just sort of looked dirty haha
@MoscaWoodworking5 жыл бұрын
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Yes, I've heard that another alternatve is india ink. but I find this better at first sight
@saraking96624 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely be using the black tea treatments inbetween from now on. Is there a shelf life on the iron acetate? Meaning after the 7 days it takes to make it? Awesome video
@Pressingontoperfection2 жыл бұрын
That was rad!
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Rodwilson-v5x4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@738polarbear4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much I need to do this as I am making a red oak campaign chest with ebonitzed accents . Very appreciated.
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad I could help. Good luck with the chest, I love campaign furniture👍🏻
@shokojimhollingsworth39403 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How do you recommend sealing the finished ebonized wood? Does this process create a natural seal/durable finish?
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Boiled linseed oil, danish oil, or plain wax would work great. A regular varnish finish should work just fine also.
@shokojimhollingsworth39403 жыл бұрын
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Thanks, I'm looking forward to trying it out!
@johnkearns6523 Жыл бұрын
@@Crowhollowwoodworks thanks for this vid. Nice to see a video from someone who knows what they are doing (so many have absolutely no clue). Side note from a finishing specialist. Wax in itself is not a finish, it's a finish 'conditioner'. It will dissipate over time. You'll need a sealer/finish. Which finish will depend on how the piece will be used or what you want to bring out in the wood. A shelf (light duty) might only need an oil finish, whereas a kitchen table or chair (heavy duty) would benefit from a more durable finish like urethane or lacquer.
@cwsgt28063 жыл бұрын
Well done thanks
@SnakeAndTurtleQigong Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Looking forward to trying this!
@justmakeit26163 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to finnish it off with some lineseed oil? To protect the black Color and the wood
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be a good finish.
@ErnestAutist4 ай бұрын
I'm trying this with a non oak axe handle (had to de rust a bunch of tools might as well use the left overs)
@herilianeria37354 жыл бұрын
my steel wool and vinegar solution didn't get brownish when i combined them, how concentrated is your vinegar?
@ArdaAslan31723 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the video you can see what brand he uses. I think it’s says 5% acidity.
@iajhy3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, man! Can I finish it with Tung oil?
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Should be able to.
@soso-ee9ut Жыл бұрын
Can I use this technique for OBS plywood as well?
@Crowhollowwoodworks Жыл бұрын
Not sure how the glue would affect the color saturation, you might try a smaller piece and see how it turns out.
@deaultusername Жыл бұрын
if you want consistent Tannin source go to a homebrew shop and buy the tanin there, is used to improve wine and add flavor to cider.
@emompong05 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info. Will this only work on specific wood types? Lets say doing this on brazillian rosewood having much denser characteristics. do you think this will work?
@jg10194 жыл бұрын
Is this safe for spoons?
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe so.
@dannydiaz1704 Жыл бұрын
What would you use to give it a clear coat?
@michaelvoytsekhovsky3 жыл бұрын
Iron(II) sulfate (copperas, green vitriol) gives the same effect without the stench and worries. After staining, the wood must be washed with a soda solution and water.
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info👍🏻
@andreus_777Ай бұрын
How long should I wait between layers?
@pas0003 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Does it wear well? I assume so as the colour is under the surface as well?
@lecobra4182 жыл бұрын
Nice, I'll try this with the black tea between each layer. I have to make a new pommel for my car and with its black and plastic interior any plain wooden pommel would look silly. This finish would keep the character of the wood and would fit perfectly into my car! Thanks a lot for the precious informations!
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@rsstnnr763 жыл бұрын
How deep does the color penetrate? And will this work with African mahogany?
@vinylhead99382 ай бұрын
I love the look, but I hesitate to try it on the furniture because of the smell. How bad is it?
@aliengrey60522 жыл бұрын
Is this recommended on guitar fretboards
@fatgrubman6453 жыл бұрын
Would this make the wood poisonous or unsafe in anyway ? Like if something/someone chewed it ?
@waynemeriwether17392 жыл бұрын
I’m curious about this too. For instance, would it be safe to use ebonized wood on a cutting board?
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
This is not a food safe finish.
@jnelsimpson11902 жыл бұрын
Can you please advise on what to seal the finished Ebonized wood with? I have an antique wood table and I want a satin type finish.
@DV0N Жыл бұрын
Would I need to add some other finish at the end if the wood will have direct contact with the skin for couple of hours per day?
@OGSauceDaddy7 ай бұрын
Yes. Like a poly finish or varnish
@georgebarnes70239 ай бұрын
Would this be good to do on knife handles?
@ComputerUser92775 күн бұрын
No, it would be perfect!
@piffpete4203 жыл бұрын
Will this work on sanded veneer?
@Blenbkuqi4 жыл бұрын
nice video . do the solution penetrate deep in to the wood or just 1 or 2 mm in surface ?
@blowersin51333 жыл бұрын
What type of wood is the big piece ?
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Red oak, same as the others.
@blowersin51333 жыл бұрын
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Thanks!
@TheOrcasRule4 жыл бұрын
What's the approximate ratio of steel wool to vinegar? That looked like about 2 "standard" size steel wool pads to one quart vinegar?
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
I believe I used. just one pad that was all pulled apart, but you could try it with two. One quart of vinegar will only dissolve so much, and the rest will be filtered out anyway.
@TheOrcasRule4 жыл бұрын
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Thanks for clarifying! I guess I need to watch more closely ;-)
@rhykko77 Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@Jslim714010 ай бұрын
Do you wait for the black tea to dry before applying the acetate solution?
@geoffb10811 күн бұрын
No, just leave a few minutes to soak in
@michebre3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video, very informational.
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@normbarrows2 жыл бұрын
As a guitar builder, I've been looking for ways to ebonize rosewood and maple. Stains, dyes, and inks don't seem to really do the job. Black tea and iron acetate just might.
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it works for what you are looking for!
@normbarrows2 жыл бұрын
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Nothing seems to yield a true ebony look. India ink seems to work best for darkening.
@manukunama6928 Жыл бұрын
I just made the mix and it didn't darken right away at all. I think because it is alcohol vinegar. This destilated vinegar that you use is hard to find here in Europe. will it work with this alcohol vinegar? ...we wil see in a week!
@yggjbkbygames49238 күн бұрын
Did it work
@AdrianDecaux4 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video, I want to make a guitar fretboard dark but I'm afraid if I use this method I'll get all my fingers stained to the touch, how can I avoid that?
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
You could look at sealing it with a flat spray based finish, that should prevent it from coming off. Or a wax maybe.
@keithwinslow4 жыл бұрын
How long did you wait for each coat to dry?
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
Just to touch, it’s mostly water so it doesn’t take long to dry.
@BombaBVI4 ай бұрын
Would this wood be food safe?
@sohapark78754 жыл бұрын
Does it smell?
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
It does smell like vinegar.
@maziamini9604 Жыл бұрын
I made my gun stock black unintentionally, I used steel wool and vinegar and rubbing alcohol to remove the old finish but it turned black, how can I get rid of black stain? Thanks
@yggjbkbygames49238 күн бұрын
I am not an expert so I am just guessing but I think the only way to remove it is by sanding it down until it disappears
@maziamini96048 күн бұрын
@yggjbkbygames4923 thanks for your reply but I got it fixed by this cleaner called Bar keepers friend. I am not an expert and I don't recommend this to anyone but my stock had turned black as a result of oxidation and it wasn't a stain, but this product worked for me surprisingly.
@dekeros-recreationalwoodwo64565 жыл бұрын
Very nice color indeed. I get more reddish tone when using this, but I saw a few things I made different. Thanks for sharing! Happy to found your channel! :-)
@Crowhollowwoodworks5 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Hopefully I’ll be adding some more content in the near future.
@TheOrcasRule4 жыл бұрын
From watching other videos out there, the red-ish stuff should just wipe off. It's the "rust" from the steel wool, which shouldn't soak into the wood. I've never tested this, but, like I said, others have said that who have used this method.
@crazybobby143 жыл бұрын
@@TheOrcasRule yes and the iron smell is strong. If I get it on my fingers it smells all day like pennies.
7 ай бұрын
Is this food safe?
@ArianaBauer3 жыл бұрын
Is this finish food safe?
@Crowhollowwoodworks2 жыл бұрын
It is not.
@nickkoenig2778 Жыл бұрын
What you can do to achieve a similar look is the Shou Sugi Ban method. Finish with mineral oil.
@liamzhang89162 жыл бұрын
Why is it that when i pour white vinegar onto that steel wool, it doesn’t change color instantly like how it is in the video, and even after a couple of hours the solution is still clear even after I shaked it?
@jensbarsoe54715 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Crowhollowwoodworks5 жыл бұрын
Jens Barsöe thank you!
@Jacksteelmachines3 жыл бұрын
and then oil it?
@CampDweller8 ай бұрын
I made 3 glasses of steel wool and vinegar and it doesn’t turn my wood black.
@fjelstednord31593 жыл бұрын
I don't use Black Tea in my solution and I get a Jet Black finish every time. One coat only. I probably mix mine stronger using a higher concentrate vinegar and more steel wool.
@geoffb10811 күн бұрын
Don't wait for a week. Find enough old rusty nails nuts and bolts etc to fill a small jar. Fill with white vinegar and 2 or 3 hours later you are on your way
@sonicd57 Жыл бұрын
Why not use a charcoal color stain instead of this ?
@rodderz56159 ай бұрын
Why not just use black stain please?
@mikuhatsune184Ай бұрын
If you’re still wondering, iron acetate is in fact considered a stain/dye. It’s just a traditional, easy to make stain with materials most people have at home. You can also use old nails in a jar instead of steel wool like the French typically do for an even easier recipe
@jackjones36574 жыл бұрын
Great video, but honestly, that looks way to dark! It's as if the wood were just painted black. It's really hard to even make out the grain.
@Crowhollowwoodworks4 жыл бұрын
You could vary the amount of times you apply it to the wood, or even vary the concentration of the black tea, to get different levels of dark.
@cindygalea92383 жыл бұрын
🙏
@lXx_xXl Жыл бұрын
Why would you put a hole in a mason jar? The whole point of the design is to let pressure escape all you have to do is not tighten the lid all the way.
@auraflood68103 жыл бұрын
can i do this 100% northern white birch anyone???
@Crowhollowwoodworks3 жыл бұрын
You might have to add a lot of black tea to it to get enough tannin for it to change color, and even then I’m not sure how dark it would get.
@CWK092 жыл бұрын
Can you not just add the tea to the solution?
@syracuse66512 жыл бұрын
Vinny Paul........
@The_Joker_3 жыл бұрын
How to Fokkerize wood.
@kerrykrishna2 жыл бұрын
This is' How to ebonize red oak' not how to ebonize wood. This does not work for many species. I thought I was going to learn something here. One word does make a difference.
@Dragondezznuts Жыл бұрын
Tip: if you flip the lid upside down it will allow the gas to escape and keep the lid for canning later.
@dwightl5863 Жыл бұрын
Canning is used for preserving food. I don't think I'd be so cheap as to reuse a lid that had been exposed to this solution for canning food. IMHO
@Dragondezznuts Жыл бұрын
@@dwightl5863 you make no sense. The gases in the vinegar and steel wool mixture needs to escape. If you turn the lid upside down the seal of the lid will not block the gases from escaping. When you are done and would like to use the lid for canning you can flip it around. He’s not canning the vinegar and steel wool.
@dwightl5863 Жыл бұрын
@@Dragondezznuts I fully understand what you are accomplishing by having the lid upside down so it doesn't seal. Just saying I don't think it is a good idea to use the same lid for preserving food. Why risk the chance of contaminating food with vinegar/steel wool solution. Save the lid and jar for another batch or whatever.
@Dragondezznuts Жыл бұрын
@@dwightl5863 to each his own I guess.
@luckyman1071 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I always wondered how this dark finish was accomplished. Ebonized wood and stone interiors bring out the best in each other. images.app.goo.gl/FsE9UqadQzMPxf7HA