How to Edit Infrared Photos in Lightroom and Photoshop

[@TomaselloStefano]

This is the best tutorial I've ever seen on KZbin about editing IR photos!!! Thank you so much man, now I can do my best with my Hoya IR72 👍

[@BrandonLosada]

Thank's a lot man! I'm glad I was able to help. ✌

[@janmichaeloyales]

thanks. so far best tutorial for IR that i have seen :)

[@BrandonLosada]

Oyales Journeys thanks! I’m glad I could help.

[@earthboundmindwalker]

Loving those jazzy space beats in the back. Thanks for the good tutorial. Got a bunch of IR Film I need to get to editing.

[@BrandonLosada]

Haha thank you, I'm glad I could help! Good luck with your edits! Let me know if you have any questions!

[@JenMBrown]

Thank you so much. I have been trying to work out how to edit IR for ages and couldn't find a good tutorial until yours. Very easy to follow. Now to give it a try!

[@birdie399]

This tut has shown me how to process IR photos properly. Thanks for the help and the links.

[@BrandonLosada]

No problem! I'm glad I was able to help!

[@Stampfff]

thanks so much for this tutorial, finaly i got the profiles working, other tutorials didnt show the path where to save them

[@BrandonLosada]

No problem! Glad I could help!

[@xxswamplordxx2079]

I built a new computer & forgot how to make a profile for infrared photos, so this helped so much. Thanks a lot!

[@BrandonLosada]

No problem! I’m glad I could help!

[@depotmsa2362]

Sweet vid , when I’m shooting ir I set my white balance in camera to a green object with the filter on , give it a try and see how it differs

[@BrandonLosada]

Thanks. Yea, I'll definitely try that out next time I shoot IR.

[@Carkysunt]

Thanks Brandon, the folder route was a life saver! great tips done clear and precise, Subscribed.

[@BrandonLosada]

I'm glad I could help! and thank you, I appreciate it!

[@ZetaReticuli_]

@@BrandonLosada What would be the folder route for a Mac?

[@MrBillkaz]

Let’s go Brandon lol

[@BrandonLosada]

🚨UPDATE: If the "Adobe DNG Profile Editor" links in the description do not work; I uploaded the .exe download file for PC into my dropbox: www.dropbox.com/sh/xtorn2rehmrffyf/AAA826xU254GQUco3dx8YZKya?dl=0 If you have a different or newer version of Lightroom than in the tutorial, check out the comment section or this article if you can't figure out where to import your custom camera profile: helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html

[@JHA854]

For anyone who can't find "Camera Calibration" it's because they moved it and renamed it to just calibration. If you go to the very top by the white balance sliders, there should be a profile selector there. Click that, then browse, then profiles and it should be there.

[@v-tube2265]

Infrared photography is my favorite 👍👍👍

[@BrandonLosada]

If you have any questions, I'll be more than happy to help! Check out my first time experimenting with Infrared Photography: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ-TfJSrm6eof6s Thanks for watching!

[@timlee5654]

Can u advise how to edit the IR photo shooting with 850nm, which only left behind black and white color?

[@AZTEC_ARTS2023]

Which IR filter do / did you use ? So just to be clear .... when i save the "profile" for one specific image from one specific camera (Nikon D300) I'll only need to do that ONCE ?? And if so ... Whenever i upload new photos to lightroom from that same camera, I will be able to re-apply that profile each time, in post ? If I use ANOTHER camera (Nikon D810) I will need to re-start the process from scratch for THAT camera's pictures ? Thanks

[@leoniepopplestone3181]

Hiya, loving your video, you explain the process a lot better than other videos on youtube. I'm having the same problem as Niru Karia, and have read your responses to their comments, I've found profile browser but don't really know where to go from there... the only options I've got are: favourites, Adobe Raw, Camera matching, legacy, artistic, B&W, modern or vintage. I've clicked on each one but it just brings up different version of the photo I'm trying to edit but none of them are the white balanced one I saved from the DNG editor. Any knowledge on what I do next?

[@BrandonLosada]

Hey Leonie! Thank you! I haven't yet updated my Lightroom to the most recent version with the new "profile browser" menu yet, but I have done some reading on it. At the top of the "profile browser" there should be those "3 dots (see more) icon" -- If you click on that there should be an option to "import profiles" (DNG profile you made)... or there's an option to choose whether or not all of the profiles are showing in the menu already. I hope this helps, and please, I would love to know if this works for you! Also, if that doesn't seem to work, here are some troubleshooting questions: Did you save the DNG profile in the correct folder? Did you restart your Lightroom? Are you editing a "RAW" photo? Are you editing a RAW photo that was taken on the same camera that you made the DNG profile for? Here's an Adobe blog post all about this new profile browser, different from the link that I sent Niru in the other thread you read: blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2018/04/lightroom-cc.html

[@leecain4052]

You can white balance infrared without using the DNG Profile Editor. It’s true that you cannot achieve white balance in Lightroom - not in one edit session anyway. It requires two edit sessions. First use the WB eye dropper and this will get you halfway. But now you’ll see the Temperature is all the way to the left and you can’t adjust any further. But now export the file to the desktop. Now, import it again and use the eye dropper again which will achieve a full white balance.

[@shoebkhan8459]

Under the Camera Calibration drop down in light room CC no option shows up to change camera profiles. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong?

[@nikibaron]

The profiles dropdown has been moved to the Basic tab near the top

[@ariefrezaindirwan5000]

love your tutorial. but i have some questions. it's shoot using 530-750nm filter. what happen if it shoot using only 720nm filter. can you have same exact post pro swagadelic photo?

[@BrandonLosada]

Thank you! The higher the filter is in nanometers the more black and white it will appear as a final product, but with some extra Photoshop work, you should be able to get a similar look. Check out this article: photographylife.com/infrared-photography-720nm-filter

[@franckbremeault-photograph2112]

Hi! Adobe DNG Profile Editor is not available for 64bits macOS. Any other

[@silencenhikes6692]

I have capture one. I wish they had a channel swap like that. Not willing to spend money on another program.

[@br0ckloeven]

Are your edits not destructive by going back and forth between LR and PS using the exact same tools in each program?

[@BrandonLosada]

Technically in this example it is destructive... But, when you are in Lightroom and you want to transfer it to Photoshop, you would normally right-click and press "Edit in Adobe Photoshop", you will instead click "Open as Smart Object in Photoshop". -- This will open the image in Photoshop and non-destructively transfer all of your RAW, lens, Lightroom adjustments and white balance information into the project. Hope this helped, thanks for watching!

[@duncan.scobie]

Was going well till the bit about the camera profile ...and then when i looked in lightroom there was nothing in the camera calibration...just process

[@BrandonLosada]

Yea this video is a little outdated at the moment, Will probably update in the near future.

[@duncan.scobie]

@@BrandonLosada ace, was enjoying it and following it.... But got stuck.... Still... Plenty time on hands with lockdown.

[@nirukaria1201]

Yes I have downloaded ding pro editor but I do not see camera calibration I see only calibration

[@BrandonLosada]

So you saved your new DNG camera profile into the correct folder, but you can’t find the camera calibration tab in LR? Try updating your LR to the most recent version - if it’s already updated, then check on the top of your LR and check if they may have changed it to something called “profile browser”

[@soulfulstrum131]

Can’t you just adjust the WB before you take the shot? So you don’t have to do the post WB?

[@BrandonLosada]

Oscar Segura yea, you could probably do something w/ the in-camera WB, I just personally haven’t experimented with it while shooting IR photos; I kept the WB in “neutral”.

[@leonardodruscovich2131]

Is your camera ir converted or are you just using the ir filter on a regular stock camera? I own a non converted camera and I am interested in achieving darker sky tones. There are a lot of controversial advice on how great can a filter perform on a non converted camera. Any advice on what kind of filter should i buy will be definitely appreciated! Leo

[@BrandonLosada]

Hey Leo, I have a regular camera and I used an IR filter for these photos. To get darker sky tones, when you're out shooting, just experiment at many different exposures/settings + Photoshop will help a great deal. The only filter that I have experience using is in the description under this video. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, I'll be happy to help. Thanks for watching!

[@leonardodruscovich2131]

All I got from some endless and painful google searches is that the 720nm gets the job done on most of non-converted cameras, giving the images a fairly desaturated look. In order to get more color information to the sensor (which is what I want to get), some people suggest getting a 520nm ir filter instead and that is pretty much explicit, but i saw about a lot of people complaining about a thing: getting too much of natural light through the filter of a non-converted camera may often minimize the"IR effect" leaving you with a simple photo with a red overlay on it. Can you tell how the filter u use performs at maximum and minimum nm blocking position? I prefer to buy a fixed ir filter to avoid the negative effects often introduced by cheap and multilayer adjustable filters as distortion, color cast and aberration. Don't know/confused about what nm value filter to buy. Let's assume I can't afford spending money to test filters, but I definitely want an average good one to try and let's say i have to choose between a 720 and a 520 nm fixed one. Bought a Sony a7III and I have no kidneys left to sell. Glad to be able to find people exploring photography to inspire, motivate and help other photographers grow. Thanks for the video and for the reply as well, Leo

[@BrandonLosada]

Леонардо Друсковиц The filter I use works well at both nm blocking positions, I personally like to use it closer to the 520nm position because I do like more of a colorful final image. With the filters that I'm using I've had no negative effects so far. My advice would be just to buy something on the cheaper side of things -- just to test it out so you can get a "hands-on" feel for it, because there's only so much you can learn through these videos. I was in the same boat as you before I bought a filter, so I just bought one of the cheaper filters (that I could adjust the nm's with) and I just played around with it. Hope this helped in some way lol, and thanks for checking the video out!

[@Mr.HarryPotter]

October 08 2018 Sorry to bother you. Could you please help me with this frustrating situation going on for months? I do exact same processing as yours after shooting with my Nikon D750/77mm Infra-Red Filter on Nikon 24-70mm or with Panasonic Lumix G9/Leica 12-60mm mostly @f/5.6 instead of f/8 or smaller aperture to avoid the annoying center blob from appearing. I open the image in Lightroom under the Custom DNG profile made already which tends not to show up in Lightroom after a couple weeks even though it exits in this folder: C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles I made two DNG profiles for Lumix and Nikon just in case but whenever I save the Nikon Profile, Lumix becomes inactive and vice-versa. Then I go under the Nikon or Lumix Camera calibration/Profile but when I place the WB eye-dropper to cool the image, I cannot get any blue or even yellow sky. My goal is to have only the green foliage turn into white. But I rather get the whole image turn into even desaturated orange and in many cases into a Black & White image. After I export the image to Photoshop to switch the Red and Blue channels, I get a desaturated even blue color in all areas of my image. Foliage, Sky, Dirt etc. At this point, there is no reason for me to adjust other values e.g. Contrast, Saturation, Haze etc., of the image by importing it back to Lightroom. What am I doing wrong? Thanks so much for your time.

[@12gauge_shawtyy]

this is a really great tutorial, but i think dng editor isnt working. When I open my file in it, and try to change the white balance, a thing pops up and says "this action cannot be completed." Its not letting me make a camera profile. Do you have any fixes for this? thanks

[@BrandonLosada]

Hey Kody, try going to this Adobe DNG editor download page: helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#resources and under resources look into and download the "Profiles SDK (April 2018)" zip file. You should be able to open up your DNG image and make a camera profile in there. I hope this helps.

[@12gauge_shawtyy]

Brandon Losada thanks dude. I’ll try this out

[@BrandonLosada]

@@12gauge_shawtyy The whole DNG profile editor situation is a little tricky because shortly after I published this tutorial they changed/discontinued the DNG profile editor program.

[@12gauge_shawtyy]

@@BrandonLosada is there any other way to do this without using dng editor then?

[@BrandonLosada]

@@12gauge_shawtyy I've been looking up alternative methods since last night but cannot really find one other than the dng editor.. I'll keep looking and let you know if I find anything. If you end up finding a different method on how it works, I would love to know as well.

[@mathewrooney6783]

Would the profile also work in the cc for mobile and tablets?

[@mathewrooney6783]

Got it working on the PC just intrigued

[@BrandonLosada]

Mathew Rooney I did some reading up on it this morning, and there is a way to import them somehow, but some people are having issues with it and some are not.. Apparently Lightroom Classic doesn’t sync them with the cloud - they would have to be re-imported into the “Lightroom CC “Desktop App””

[@UJWL715]

What happens when you shoot a video with it? Can it be corrected to this look in video editing?

[@viktornordstrom1461]

technically yes, but then you want to IR convert your camera first so you can use "regular" frame rates, etc. If you don't own one already of course :)

[@nirukaria1201]

Hi I am trying to download DNG profile editor in LR but I do not see camera calibration / profile in LR so please can you help me

[@BrandonLosada]

Did you download the DNG profile editor software (link in description) and did you save the camera profile (from the DNG profile editor) into the correct folder so that it would show up in LR? From the DNG Profile Editor, the export location of the camera profile was in: "Users>YourName>AppData>Roaming>Adobe>CameraRaw>CameraProfiles" If you can't find these folders in your file explorer and you are using windows, go to the view tab on the top of your file explorer window and check the box that says "Hidden Items" -- new folders should appear such as "App Data" I hope this helped, let me know if this worked!

[@mathewrooney6783]

Brandon Losada I'm the same and I have went over it 4 times, don't have camera calibration but there is a calibration and you only get option of version 1 to 4

[@BrandonLosada]

Hey, Mathew Rooney - this was my reply to another comment on this video, please let me know if this helps! “I haven't yet updated my Lightroom to the most recent version with the new "profile browser" menu yet, but I have done some reading on it. At the top of the "profile browser" there should be those "3 dots (see more) icon" -- If you click on that there should be an option to "import profiles" (DNG profile you made)... or there's an option to choose whether or not all of the profiles are showing in the menu already. I hope this helps, and please, I would love to know if this works for you! Also, if that doesn't seem to work, here are some troubleshooting questions: Did you save the DNG profile in the correct folder? Did you restart your Lightroom? Are you editing a "RAW" photo? Are you editing a RAW photo that was taken on the same camera that you made the DNG profile for? Here's an Adobe blog post all about this new profile browser, different from the link that I sent Niru in the other thread you read: blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2018/04/lightroom-cc.html “

[@mathewrooney6783]

Brandon Losada thanks for the quick reply, just found it in current version of Lightroom cc you go into basic and profiles are in there. Thanks for the tutorial

[@BrandonLosada]

No problem man! That's been a pretty big question in this video's comment thread recently, so thank you for sharing how it works with the current version!

[@redtail5]

Mine hardly changed when I used the eyedropper. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[@BrandonLosada]

If it hardly changed when you used the eyedropper it should already be close to the correct infrared white balance. Try opening it up in Photoshop and do the "Channel Mixer" and "Hue/Saturation" steps. Let me know if it works!

[@redtail5]

Wow, thanks for the quick reply. The image is still all red though, when I take it to photoshop it just becomes a blue mess.

[@BrandonLosada]

No problem man! Are you clicking on the brightest part of your image w/ the eyedropper tool? And, did you download your camera's DNG Infrared Profile into lightroom from the first step?

[@redtail5]

Yea, I've done all that. The only thing I can think of is the in camera white balance being too far off but I would still expect to see a little more results. Every step is just changing the image very mrinsculy.

[@BrandonLosada]

Can you move the temperature any cooler or is it all the way to the left already?

[@rwalshphotos5626]

i can't seem to download dng profile editor, something up with the server or something, anyone got the setup exe they could link?

[@BrandonLosada]

Hey what's up Ryan, I just checked the links I provided and apparently Adobe has gotten rid of that software.. Fortunately, I do have the .exe file for PC download. Here is the link to the download: www.dropbox.com/sh/xtorn2rehmrffyf/AAA826xU254GQUco3dx8YZKya?dl=0 I hope this helps, please let me know if this works!

[@S_Dot804]

@@BrandonLosada do u have the Mac version????

[@RynaxAlien]

How to apply settings to multiple photos?

[@anima6035]

Make actions? Just a guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@butterbean5968]

Hi, i cant export my image to DNG! Help

[@BrandonLosada]

msanonymous Hi, when you’re in the develop tab in Lightroom, right-click on your image, hover over export and an option for “export to DNG” should show up!

[@ajandrade1]

Hello, very good tutorial. Anyway the photo you used was taken in a normal camera with a filter or with a modified one? Secondly in a real infrared photo taken in a full spectrum should be worked with PS chanel mixer? Thanks and good work.

[@BrandonLosada]

Thank you! And, the photo was taken on a normal camera (canon t5i) with an infrared filter. Also, I'm pretty sure I've read that the channel mixer in PS works well when the photo is taken within the spectrum of "590nm - 720nm". Let me know if you have any further questions! Thank you again for watching!

[@jakecarroll2439]

are there photos shot with lens filter or is this an artificial edit before hand?

[@BrandonLosada]

This photo was shot with an IR lens filter, one of the filters I used is in the description!

[@jakecarroll2439]

Brandon Losada thanks so much!

[@BrandonLosada]

No problem man and thanks for checking out the video! If you have any questions let me know!

[@Ajsski99]

on the right side at the bottom it only says calibration not camera calibration ;(

[@nirukaria1201]

Yes

[@BrandonLosada]

You found it?

[@nirukaria1201]

no I can see only calibration not camera calibration

[@BrandonLosada]

Niru Karia did you read the full reply I sent you on your earlier comment? You may have to update your LR, and if it’s already updated, it might be up on the top in one of the dropdown menus - Adobe may have changed it to something called “profile browser” Here’s an article about some changes adobe made regarding camera calibration and profiles: www.computer-darkroom.com/blog/2018/04/03/adobe-lightroom-7-3-and-camera-raw-10-3-april-2018/

[@nirukaria1201]

Yes this is updated version of LR and I do not see profile browser as well I am trying to find it

[@BrandonLosada]

Okay good luck, I hope you were able to figure it out

[@DanielSarli]

Just discovering ir photography, seems interesting and you've made a very nice tutorial! But I'm not sure, (after all that processing) is there really a difference with a normal picture and doing the same amount of processing to get similar results? if there is, what would it be? sorry for the ignorance on the topic =)

[@ertsixnine4938]

You can do all that in LR only... Also, activate your windows!