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[@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips]

Mike thanks for having me here . We had lots of fun filming this

[@loganbrown6184]

Hey Sergio, thank you for your knowledge and input of this topic, just subbed to you, hope to see some great content.

[@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips]

@@loganbrown6184 thank you

[@loganbrown6184]

@@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips you're welcome

[@HECTORARTUROA]

4:15 Sergio was possesed by Bruce when he said: :Huh?". The same kind of gesture and position of head. Maybe, because Sergio invoked Bruce at the beginning.

[@MP-db9sw]

Badass warrior: how many times you gonna ask this? And could you please explain what professional street fighting is?

[@ericr2617]

I used to be a fighter like you, until I took an oblique kick to the knee.

[@hard2hurt]

Nice.

[@joshuarox1739]

"may" seemed to have a huge chance on you.

[@sinaparsi6736]

Watch the skies, traveler.

[@sinaparsi6736]

@@rlclark50 Skyrim

[@cuzz63]

legit

[@allismind9386]

"I offer myself as a sacrifice for the Gods of You Tube... I want you to do it. DO IT!" I love that guy.

[@ninjafruitchilled]

To be fair that dude has huge legs. Most people would have a lot weaker knees than him ;).

[@zzajizz]

Against that thigh/knee I might break my ankle if if I tried.

[@raymeester7883]

Oh, my goodness! Most badass thing I have ever heard!

[@Cobravenom69]

Ive broke both my knees. One in wrestling, and one in football. That kick, hearing what its meant to do, gives me chills. Scary af

[@Kellygarreau]

Was going to say I've seen hyper extended knees in football

[@Cobravenom69]

@@Kellygarreau not healthy

[@MaxLohMusic]

Relying on just some friction force of a shoe to do it doesn't look like it would work either. What DOES work is in BJJ when some white belt has a half guard grip around your knee like a vice, then rubs it around to shear your knee off. My kneecap literally moved and almost dislocated and I had to tap to it. It's not even technically illegal. I don't have a counter except to always keep my leg very deep or very shallow in half guard (not exactly knee-deep). I wish there were more techniques on how to avoid these kinds of "white belt techniques".

[@just-a-fella3212]

That knee kick is dangerous; it can immediately damage the knee, particularly if applied differently to shown in the video.

[@nateb4543]

Ya man. Tore my acl 3 times and im struggling even watching this demonstration

[@yeabruh7423]

Why the Oblique kick should be banned. Me: seems like a professional debate H2H: COW TIPPING!

[@hard2hurt]

Accurate.

[@TheRollDdice]

@Paul Noonchester Everybody knows that cow tipping is 15%, just like a cab driver or baggage handler at the airport.

[@lkvt123]

TheRollDdice underrated comment

[@RonSanPedro83]

That "in-out" oblique kick to the patella looks scary

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah the other people in the room were like wtf ha

[@chbu7081]

That's one kick I learned in Hapkido that I didn't find particularly useful.

[@hsinhaowang]

@@chbu7081 Hapkido styles very. They are like the Kenpo stylists of Korean arts. They take bits and pieces they like from other arts. Due to this, many instructors go in with, often untested, half-knowledge. The inverted roundhouse/oblique kick to the patella is for destabilizing. It's a tool with a very specific use. Best used when the opponent has their weight on their front leg. Personally, I prefer hitting the inner thigh with it. It's more of a "catch you off guard" technique. It's unorthodox.

[@Ruizg559]

@@chbu7081 Ooph, catching a heel to the inside of the bottom of the quad where it's relatively small sounds painful AF.

[@yeetman4953]

@@zachparade2791 your point being?

[@JohnDoe-on6ru]

I deliver a precision open-hand strike to my opponent's left butt cheek and it's lights out.

[@snazdogdbfan251]

Works all Da time

[@megaexidor]

The cheek buster will get um every time.

[@blakeavila4409]

And it is all over!!!!!!!!

[@qward2174]

👀👀IM OUTTA HERE 🏃🏾‍♂️💨💨💨

[@danielcox7629]

UwU

[@Draalnexa]

A few thoughts on a very nice back and forth between IcyM and Sergio: I think Kwon was the one who said this but Kickboxing should not be considered a martial art but rather a rule set. Same applies to MMA. You can enter in those kind of contests as long as you conform to the rules, regardless of your style or lack of there of. That being said, due to those rules some techniques crystallize as most effective and become the bread and butter for anyone wanting to participate in that ruleset . Then that is percieved as "kickboxing" or '"mma" while in reality you can apply elements of any style as long as they're not illegal. Now martial arts in general originated with the purpose of hurting/controlling/fighting other people within some geo-temporal context. Very importantly, a point Sergio makes in this video and capitalizes on in general, is that martial arts have this taint of misinformation attached to them. Sometimes over the course of centuries information is passed on with varying quality, sometimes with varying honesty (eg someone wants to make money of it and then mystifies stuff) and most importantly sometimes without the following context and meaning (eg then we have training techniques being though as fight ending combat techniques). Martial arts are full of ultra useful techniques if one can dissociate the bullshit from the effective techniques and apply them in the right context. What I think is that currently we have two of the best things that have happened to the world of martial arts and that we are living in a very good time. 1) The rise of the quite liberal MMA ruleset that pushed the reset button on a lot of bs very quickly. Being the jack of many trades is of crucial importance. Anyone who remembers their first time they did some submission grappling will understand that you don't want to fight a guy without any understanding of this distance regardless of your striking competence. Likewise, you don't want to bob and weave too deeply when leg kicks are in play, you don't want to not be aware that if someone kicks you in the nuts you won't instantly die as you may just freak out too much, etc. 2) You guys sharing the wisdom and knowledge on youtube. Martial artists that are devoted to the applicable aspect of their respective arts teaching the no bs style and also guys testing shit and paying with concepts. You cannot just claim things without backing it up. And in general, youtube sometimes allows us to see the best who have ever done it show us how it's done. Props guys. Keep the purification of martial arts running for the sake of all the upcoming generations that want to learn the art of fighting. ...and sorry for the long comment and @IcyMike for the lack of usual shittalking

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah dude wtf

[@Draalnexa]

@@hard2hurt well I thought your choice of outfit already did enough damage so I thought talking shit was unnecessary

[@Draalnexa]

@@hard2hurt is this better? :P

[@channelMasterGuiGame]

Go watch ramsey dewey videos on UFC rules. He goes through all of them and explains it. But as a matter of correction, no, there is no ruleset, there are fouls in a fight.

[@jackwilson6467]

I have seen the oblique kick used in the ring and in the street. I've seen it bounce off of people most times, but was good to stutter step them to allow you to stop their momentum like a teep, move, or follow up with something else. I've also seen it, and "ye olde side kick to the knee" completely fold a leg up 90 degrees twice. Once by one of the worst kickboxers in our school. Everybody beat this guy in sparring, but he utilized it in a two on one street assault and dropped one of the assailants on the first beat with an oblique kick to the knee. Completely folded it the wrong way. Career ending injury for his life of street crime. Probably had to take up panhandling, or online credit card fraud.

[@benjaminlane3004]

Probably the guy calling me from "Microsoft"

[@Ethan-rw7ub]

@@benjaminlane3004 just came here from that vid lol

[@danielhounshell2526]

@Joe Blow I think you missed the part where he said "I've seen it bounce off of people most times". The people in the video don't deny that the kick can do this, they just say that the likelihood of it ending the fight is too low to rely on. With untrained fighters, who typically have their knee extended more in their stance, the likelihood goes up a lot, which is exactly what the person said here.

[@ficedulamortis6434]

Joe Blow I think you miss the part where this guy has been in plenty of kickboxing fights, and real fights as an officer. Oblique kicks RARELY do anything, extremely rarely. Yoel Romero was rowing that side kick hard at Whitakers knee, and Whitaker still won the fight

[@1individeo]

It happened to me in a sparring session. I broke my ligaments and was obviously out.

[@jasonpetty124]

“I offer myself as a sacrifice to the gods of KZbin” best line

[@jamesmccool9536]

I have seen a guy get his knee destroyed with that kick. I have also seen it fail many more times than succeed.

[@AveSicarius]

You can definitely destroy a joint with actually quite little force IF it is in the perfect position, it has weight on it, and so many other factors that will never be feasible in almost any situation and only ever happens to the EXTREMELY unfortunate. If a joint isn't in the perfect position to hyperextend, tear, and other nasty outcomes (like dislocated knees and elbows which are truly horrible) the amount of force you need to exert into it would be insane. Hitting someone in the knee with a metal bat would probably do some serious damage, but in a supportive position, probably won't damage the joint beyond repair (as people claim to do with kicks). It will shatter your kneecap though, which is pretty horrible in itself. Bones and joints, especially in the legs, are built to deal with extreme forces exerted on them. The legs are built to support our entire weight amplified through physical exertion, if they damaged so easily we wouldn't be able to even run around without injury. It's like people saying they will break your arm with a palm strike. Could you do it? Probably, but nobody is ever going to be in that perfect position. You need to take them down, get them in a nice arm bar (etc), and exert serious force, which will damage the joints and muscles in the arm. If it doesn't work almost everytime, it isn't a technique worth using outside of demonstration.

[@jackmartin3398]

Favorite Kung fu description even “kickboxing with flavor”😂

[@marcusstoica]

Icy Mike- you and Sergio are doing a great service to the community, pressure testing concepts and exploring Kung Fu for the depths that it does have. I'm so glad that legitimate practitioners like Sergio are starting to get airtime, and that you're also willing to explore those concepts with them. I need to go back to the drawing board and start thinking about follow ups and combinations from that knee kick. You guys are a breath of fresh air in the community and I wish you both continued success and growth!

[@marcusstoica]

I think you hit the nail on the head- a lot of these strikes are meant to add up to combinations that you use to end the fight. I don't know where people get the idea that one or two strikes is all you need.

[@voidtremors5814]

@3:38 "I want you to do it. DOET!!" scene immediately changes after. Hahahahaha I nv laughed so hard

[@zGJungle]

But checking kicks can end the fight, ask Anderson Silva.

[@hsinhaowang]

This post made my leg hurt.

[@danielhounshell2526]

They didn't deny that it can end a fight, they just said that the likelihood of it doing so is far too small to rely on.

[@DeepThinkingGPU]

career end

[@keynonburns4921]

Too soon bro...too soon

[@SirTipsi]

@CHRISTOPHER GRAMLING No it was his leg straight up breaking in half lol

[@cuzz63]

My experience with the Oblique Kick (OK) is that the foot is a small weapon and the leg/knee straight on is a small target, in the heat of combat its hard to hit with any effectiveness. Better target for the OK is the hip (larger target).

[@Jenjak]

It is also a savate technique "chassé bas" (translate "low stomp" ). In historical savate they also used the tip of the shoe to kick the patela. D:

[@Dr-Grayson]

That's actually incorrect. The fouette uses the tip of the shoe to strike the inside or outside of the knee targeting either the MCL or ACL. The Chasse uses the heel of the foot/shoe to strike.

[@s1r155]

@@Dr-Grayson i think he was referring to two separate kicks. As he said the chassis bas is a low stomp which would be performed with the heel or flat of the foot just above the knee

[@Dr-Grayson]

@@s1r155 potentially savate has the chasse frontal which is more or less a stomp kick and the chasse lateral which is more like a side kick. The frontal does use the toes in some circumstances but would go to the front of the knee of it were used in application. Struggle with an art having general/specific terms for a technique.

[@lucasmray]

Yes watching Daniel Duby do it with cowboy boots (big heels) is scary

[@OoohAaah6603]

English Morris Dancing.... Mess with that shit at your peril, scary moves.

[@Zack1440]

Great video Mike and Sergio. I agree entirely, the people that say "oh if I do this I will break..." have never fought a single time in their lives. Fight ending strikes are rare in a real situation and not a single one of them is to the knee or groin. Hitting an opponent's head with enough force to temporarily do a lights-out can certainly be a fight-ending situation. I really liked the explanation that Sergio made regarding the Bagua form and how this was meant to be a kick to stop an opponent from moving closer. Also it was kewl to hear about his lineage, I had forgotten about that. We have a similar kick, the stomping kick in 7 Star Praying Mantis Kung Fu. I use it often to bring my opponent's attention down before doing a hook. And absolutely Mike, like you said Kung Fu has its own flavors but as humans we can only fight in a certain amount of ways which at the end of the day merges into similar way regardless of the styles. A jab, a cross, a hook, will be the same thing in Kung Fu, Boxing, Muay Thai, etc.

[@ramonvelasquez8431]

Great collab, guys! I love combat/self defense enthusiasts chatting out stuff, one can really learn a lot from those instances.

[@blockmasterscott]

You’re spot on at the end about not relying on one technique to end the fight. That’s one big thing hammered into us in Choy Li Fut.

[@JustinBaine824]

I do the oblique kick a lot. People try to step in and I check them with it. (Sparring)I have only one time done it in a fight used it to check them but I hit the knee dead on and although they didnt drop like a goofy air thing in front of car lots, he did stop fighting to sit down and his friends had to help him up to walk. Once bc I got lucky

[@AstralS7orm]

The check kick is not exactly as strong as the full oblique kick you would perform against a rooted leg as a setup. Still annoying.

[@yeetman4953]

@@AstralS7orm what is check kick?

[@AstralS7orm]

@@yeetman4953 A kick made with intent to stop the opponent, their kick or keep distance. It has to be fast and accurate but not powerful since you're probably using opponent's momentum against them. It's strictly defensive. Performed out of measure most often as a counter, reactive. Usually not a high kick though a few taekwondo practitioners can pull off high checks which is quite a feat. So, fast teep can qualify, unpowered static low and medium kick, savate/kungfu kick at knee, fast muay kick at inner thigh. Roundhouse, karate/typical taekwondo style and most high kicks usually are too slow, more of an offensive strike.

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

The crescent kick on the knee caused me physical pain, even though I've never experienced it.

[@cesaralvesdemoraes3187]

Nice coop, sergio is a great guy

[@black1582]

I like the practicality, and no bs, of your videos!

[@aqurio123]

I don't think it should be banned because, there are concussions and KO's all the time in combat sports. Which would either end the fight, or not but the brain damage and inflammation intensifies overtime. And people have to remember "we are literally smashing our bones into each other's face over and over until somebody falls or says stop." PS: I definitely thought that the kick could break the knee until now.

[@spikeyslug1717]

Since you keep your knees bent 95% of the time during sparring like they said, it's more likely not to happen. People consider it dangerous due to the fact knee damages can be permanent, but I'm honestly more afraid of eating a knee or an elbow to the jaw...

[@donkeypunch07]

Exactly!!! The REAL elephant in the room! You can overcome 'most' bodily injuries. But the upcoming brain injury, is unavoidable. It is like putting a piece of duct tape over a hole in a ballon, yet on the other side of the ballon has a bomb strapped to it.

[@trinidadraj152]

It's cool to see Sergio getting more web presence. He's pretty good!

[@lenofsparta7393]

Cool video, you guys should keep this coming, legit transparent video. Great technique Sergio

[@clockmakerbr2470]

I really like those videos with Sergio, please do more. I'm a thai fighter, but i train for self defense, so i study as much martial arts as possible to learn and test new techniques, then i can adapt them to my fighting style, so those kind of videos can help me a lot.

[@jthomas866]

By far the most realistic martial arts channel out there...Love this channel

[@drjonesjrjr]

What about Jake mace? 😂😂

[@RageNg]

Robert Whittaker won the fight but had to have surgery after Romero stomped his knee. Knee stomps should be banned exactly for that reason. They don’t necessarily end fights but they do shorten careers. And will increase insurance premiums. Should be the same category as head-butts.

[@hard2hurt]

Exactly! They disproportionately affect the athletes life compared to the impact they have on the fight. Sure they can change a fight as can any technique, but it's like giving up a finger for $100.

[@hard2hurt]

Which, to clarify, I dont necessarily agree or disagree that they should be banned as its outside my purview... but this is the correct argument against it... and NOT that it is "too deadly for the ring"

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

Either it's fighting or playing. The second you ban knee kicks, it's playing. Like children do.

[@yeahbee8237]

Headbutts should be legal

[@yewtewbstew547]

@@NidokingOtsutsuki Then you don't have a sport anymore. No one is going to engage in any combat sport, even at a professional level where the money is good, where a lifelong crippling injury is all but guaranteed. That's why they ban stuff like that, for the athlete's longevity.

[@thac0twenty377]

Fonally someone else showing applicable wing chun. Thank you man

[@darkhorseunlimitedthor908]

Thanks for being open to other styles and knowledge from any sources that works, that's real. It says a lot about your character and integrity. God bless, sir.

[@Mataninja]

The oblique kick is something else. Very tricky. I actually never thought that the horse stance can be utilized the way Sergio explained. Pretty interesting. I believe people should have a strong base in a single martial and branch out to others to fill in gaps that their main art lacks. However, this should be a slow process. If people try to learn so many arts at the same time fast, their fighting will end up in a mess. There was this Chinese Sifu in a Kung Fu Quest episode that said that at most a person can be good up to two styles of martial arts. This quote should be taken in great consideration imo.

[@raymondfrye5017]

Try viewing Naihanchi kata.

[@nerosugi4815]

In naruto they taught the forbidden 1000 years of pain technique: where you deliver a piercing blow with your hands clasped together with your middle and pointing fingers extended targeting their bunghole.

[@DougEBear-oz9hg]

I am actually starting to dig this channel. Growing up I learned different stuff. And it has all helped in various ways. Plus I dig that you want to teach practical applications of techniques.

[@editthis81]

Hi Mike. I came across your video cause I was researching the “combat fighter@ program and checked out your review. Thanks for the info! Serendipitously I came across more of your videos and decided to subscribe 💪🏼🤙🏽

[@monsantofungaro5704]

"I'm just gonna break the wrist and walk away" - Rex Kwon Do.

[@samtorento4493]

"Bow to your sensei!"

[@loganbrown6184]

Hey Mike thank you for explaining this topic a bit further, I'm a martial arts practitioner myself for 14 years now, I'm still training which you may have already guessed, but lately some of my friends who don't really practice asked me about the Oblique kick and how effective it is, usually my response is generally, "Well in all honesty the Oblique kick has certain results in certain situations (I didn't go into specifics, but I do thank you for going into some specifics in your video) but mainly it's for keeping your opponent at a distance." And now that Sergio also gave me insight so thank you @Practical Combat Martial Arts for your knowledge of this topic, I'm definitely subscribing to you as well.

[@sifugraham2918]

That circling out of the foot as it hits the knee that you looked shocked about is how I learned it in Ip Ching line Wing Chun as well :) Also front on its used as a stop kick.. we also have a nailing kick that we use from a side angle of the knee and drives down at an angle to the floor looking to destroy structure....

[@torstenscott7571]

The only instance I can recall where a kick injured a knee in a professional mma fight was years ago when Pedro Rizzo took out Dan Severn with an inside leg kick. He was clearly targeting the knee, and Severn went down.

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

Or last year when the mma girls with broken knees for life started crying to ban knee kicks

[@SCBiscuit13]

Thanks for clarifying that kick. To this day I thought that you would be able to break someone's leg, but now I see it makes not much sense. By the way, you look like Bill Bur's angrier litter brother :D

[@raul_jocson_]

I've used an oblique kick a few times in controlled sparring and real confrontations. Seems the important factors are range and if the other person is expecting it (i.e. squared up for the fight). At close range or if they're in the middle of an advance, it can definitely throw a person off balance and even send them sprawling. For me it, it counts as a fight ender because at that point I'd run away. :) Of course in sport fighting it's a different story.

[@SeityBartBiermasz]

Love these videos and the open mind/'holistic approach', couldn't agree more!

[@TheChaoslusterhall]

Yes i agree.ive always thought of that tactic as more of a brutal ambush type of thing.not a move I'd try to end a fight with.

[@jpdragon1141]

Cool to see the best of the best colaborate 👍

[@ed1726]

Awesome, cow tipping is one of those things I heard that I never really questioned. TY for pointing out its BS.

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

It's not real. I've tried many times drunk. First, it'd be terrible if you could even do it, always sounds funny but when you get out there, they are very avoidant. Even if you could get next to one, it won't just stand still. If you start to push on it, it'll just move like if you pushed a dog, so think about pushing a 1600 LB dog. You can push all you want, if it's even standing next to you, you'll just budge it an inch. But then there's the bulls, and they aren't usually friendly

[@dusk6159]

All facts, debunking that bs

[@stevepalpatine2828]

I've watched a video of a guy do it. He was a big guy, ran up, hit the cow sideways and bounced off, cow stumbled sideways and went down, didnt tip over sideways though. It wasn't happy when it got up...

[@errnapo]

Excellent Eye Opening to Reality Video ! Great Job Keep it Up

[@hsinhaowang]

I like using the rear shovel/oblique kick to set up a fake to a pendulum/skipping [roundhouse/sidekick/front kick.] Sneaking a hit in to the liver.

[@hard2hurt]

Definitely! It is a good way to hide the switch or pendulum or whatever footwork you would use to get the lead leg up.

[@roberts7107]

Penny from big bang theory said she went cow tipping, she said she was the one on the ground...

[@baconcommander4643]

I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times. Bruce Lee

[@insane_troll]

What about 100 people who have practiced one kick 100 times each?

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

@@robertharrison8057 with the magical g3w number of 33 you probably right

[@NeverAReflection]

As an old-school Okinawan karate guy, I can say that I make pretty frequent use of the oblique kick, or as we call it, the shovel kick or returning wave kick. I use it pretty much as described-- managing distance, and providing distraction. At close range, you can really put a hurting on somebody with it, but you are absolutely right about it not finishing fights. I do know of two situations, though, where it did. One was a fight with Miguel Torres, where his knee was hyper-extended and they stopped it. The other was a law enforcement situation that I got to hear about. Every other instance of this kick being used, though, is as you described

[@BecomeUseful]

That guy was so nice! If I have to lose a fight I hope it’s to him. Great vid!

[@mokyan7]

In wing chun we practice the push kick and lift kick on the wooden dummy and with pad or partner drills. It can be used as a quick stop for advancing opponent or as a stomping kick. You can even do it when grabbed or clinching. Also with shoes on a hard shin strike hurts a lot! It works best when you hide it and are non-telegraphed. In section 7 of the dummy set there is a pattern where you intercept, pivot and while you pull the arm you oblique kick the shin or knee to throw or pull down an advancing opponent, like a “power” trip. Loving these insights and collaboration videos, nice work!

[@iballz22]

The US Marines insist that kicks should be done with the boots on.... ya know.

[@ajaxmax7843]

And on when you stomp the head

[@paulcoy9060]

Billy Jack has entered the chat

[@vonb2792]

Like in savate (french kickboxing) where they use shoes.. more real. Savate has a few ways to do that oblique

[@Chief2Moon]

I'm an old guy who doesn't play anymore but I enjoy your videos. Boxed&wrestled in school &years afterward but never heard of MMA till I was in my 50's, & Judo, Jiu Jitsu, karate,etc. we're mysterious "Asian Arts" we didn't know much about. Good video!

[@andreamelless2822]

I respect you and your wife for being sooooooo REAL!!! Ty for your efforts, you both definitely have my attention. 😆

[@RussellStClair-cy1vu]

I must've done it wrong , I used a 2x4 . Oops !! Those aren't sanctioned by the MMA.

[@esodn762]

Just watch some Savate, they kick eachother with shoes in the knees with side and oblique kicks and it isn't always a fight ending move.

[@ZenDragonYoutubeChannel]

Fascinating. Practical Wing Chun... my friend Kenneth Klok (black belt in Meishu Kung Fu like me, but he's a 3rd degree, I'm only 1st degree). Anyways, he trains Practical Wing Chun and is very good at it., Sergio said a lot of what I would say. There's different ways of using the oblique kick and low sidekick... but you can never expect a certain result, that's the problem with the idea of "I'd just hit him in the balls and finish the fight" or poke the eyes, or target the kneecap or whatever... most likely it won't finish the fight, it MIGHT, but don't count on it. As far as getting kicked in the groin, I've tried that several times a couple of times in sparring, once as a kid in a street fight, one time during a simple drill where I got kneed hard in the groin. The pain can be instant or come later, it can drop you involuntarily (that happened when I got kneeed in the groin during that drill. Also actually in one of my videos it kinda happened, where I was throwing a kick and got kicked in the balls while throwing it), but I've also been hit and continued.... it's a good target when it's available, but one should never expect a surefire result, you always gotta be ready to adapt in combat.

[@phredbookley183]

"Kickboxing with some flavor" is such a perfect phrase. Very nice, h2h.

[@dknollRX7]

Is this where you got your “leg muscles”’thing from?

[@hard2hurt]

Exactly haha.

[@dknollRX7]

@ 2:30

[@billd4479]

Ruptured both patellas last year in an obstacle course race (OCR) and can can TOTALLY back up that you will stop any movement whatsoever!!! Watching this video made me cringe but it hasn't stopped me from going back to training in martial arts! It just made me very aware of what damage can actually occur! Very informative and thank you guys!!!

[@mizukarate]

Thanks this was informative.

[@bobbyhill4118]

Since I punch with my right and kick with my left, I just do sharp side kick jabs to their knee if I’m standing with the left as the lead hand, which is what I normally do. If they try to roundhouse me in the left leg to put me down, I will immediately jet out and kick that leg holding all of their weight inwards and break it, or put them on the ground. I also like jabs since the person won’t react to them as fast because he doesn’t see a lot of the movement involved in building up the momentum when I throw it. I just shift my weight forward and push the hand out and hit him in the teeth, and I do it as if I were to use a spear. Back in the olden days, they used to apply the same concept to thrusting with a spear since it’s harder to see coming/defend against. Usually the right side has the two knockout blows, the kick coming from the right leg, and the cross coming from the torque of the torso off of the hips, in the right hand. I use certain movements depending on how the person fights. If he’s a boxer, I use certain entries depending on which punches he throws and use grappling techniques on him. If he’s a good grappler, I’m going to want to throw those hard and heavy strikes to his jaw and liver area. If he’s a tall fighter, he’s getting taken down. If he’s really defensive, I’m going to fight him off balance. Now I’m not special, I’m not here to stroke my ego or condemn any combat forms, I’m talking about stances and adaptability. In the real world of self defense, you’ll ether see the blow coming or you won’t. Someone might just creep up from behind and hit you in the head with a rock and run off with your wallet, phone, and whatever else might be valuable. Or, you might get someone mad and they try to rush you, that’s when you act and run away, depending on whether or not you think that he can catch you if you were to run. Running should always be considered first over fighting. If he’s fast, don’t turn your back to him. If he’s slow, fat or out of shape, you should just go. Also, you could pick something up and use it against him. You could get a chair and throw it at him, a rock and beat him with it, you could pick up a 2x4 and violently swing it down at him, etc.

[@hard2hurt]

Like a bag of sand...

[@Jmonkeyover]

"Jack of all trades master of none, often times better than master of one"

[@DanielTejnicky]

making it applicable OUTSIDE OF ANIME xD

[@0Bonaparte]

I love that you simultaneously misunderstand the 'jack of all trades' and understand exactly what it is without realizing it. Everyone thinks that the phrase is 'Jack of all trades, master of none' but they forget that there are 3 parts to the sentence. 'Jack of all trades, master of none, but oft better than master of one.' You stumbled into exactly what the phrase actually means from the common misunderstanding of it

[@thefirefighterwaylifefight2030]

Another AMAZING video my brotha

[@kaiecarrington9822]

I was taught by Wankang Yu, I learned to close my eyes and shut my mouth lol

[@johntheother]

The knee kick is real, I have seen it, and I know that the recipient of the kick required extensive surgery to re-attach 4 torn ligaments before they could walk again without crutches

[@ficedulamortis6434]

Sure it's real, but it's very rare.

[@ninjafruitchilled]

Easier if you kick into the knee from the side rather than straight on. It is less strong sideways.

[@cubandarknez]

lol is this the origin of the "LEG MUSSELS!" quote? Love it!

[@badazzmaro]

Awesome video, I loved the Mortal Kombat reference haha. One little thing I feel I could add, is that over time the saying I think was changed but what it should be is Jack of all trades master of one, not none. I feel like the master of none version overtime has kind of tricked people into thinking that someone who's pretty good at a lot of stuff isn't really good at anything oh, but we all know that that's a Country Crock. Keep the videos coming

[@coolunusual]

Legit used to think the oblique kick was that side knee kick.

[@hard2hurt]

It's a kick to someone's oblique abs.

[@angelscrisis8864]

2:29 A meme was born.

[@godcamacho9858]

1:16 *Mike has left the game*

[@Ricardoromero4444]

Never seen a knee go backwards from an oblique kick, but I HAVE seen it go backwards on video from jumping guard in a bjj tournament. The memory of the video still haunts me to this day.

[@mechablade5327]

Wait, so crushing someone's trachea doesn't end the fight?

[@ninjafruitchilled]

Well it will, but it is difficult to crush it properly. You either need to crush it with vice-grip-strong hands, or punch em straight in the throat (or knife hand etc.). It's not so easy to do. More likely yeah you damage it in some debilitating way but they can still breathe and fight. Of course if you *do* crush it then that is a life threatening injury, so probably another good reason to ban attacks straight to the throat.

[@Necrodogged]

"Jon Jones wants to end your career" the video

[@gw1357]

Like a lot of Wing Chun (and Jeet Kune Do), the oblique kick is largely about intercepting -- which you guys aptly demonstrate. I would also note though that in Wing Chun, the oblique kick is also done out of the clinch, in which case you're stepping down and in on the knee while holding the neck. If you hit at the magic angle and time, yeah, you could bust a guy's knee and end the fight...but (just like you said) that's an ideal extreme. More often its as a form of a takedown.

[@frankyturrizo4240]

Dang thats badass, taking kung fu and making it practical

[@almostallthingsgaming]

Anderson Silva would disagree about the leg kicks to the knee.

[@arumatai]

silva actually hurt himself with the kick...

[@jesseg94]

Silva kicked the knee with his shins not his foot like with an oblique kick. Lol. His tibia wrapped around Weidmans leg.

[@MonkeyFist]

I always calling this kick - "stop kick" because do nothing else then stopping my opponent... but you can use it for cool combos : ) this technique can not be "alone" this can be as opening or changing position or just "stop kick" heh

[@kenh.5903]

I had never seen or heard of a Kick straight into the knee like this until I saw it in mixed martial arts. I was always taught to go for the side of the knee

[@lovernotfighter]

I agree with the idea of learning different styles for different situations. I was good with my hands because I'm fast but once I got taken down to the ground and it was all over. I decided to take Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I wasn't the best but I can fight from both Standup and Ground with confidence.

[@Liquidcadmus]

Kenpo guys think that breaking arms and legs is really easy. that bones are made of clay. people don't realize how resilient the human body is, specially under distress and with adrenaline. don't even mention the groin strike, they think that's the ultimate attack.

[@Mataninja]

You should make a video talking about American Kenpo. I see you leaving comments in a lot of the videos I checked out on it. Some of the comments you leave are pretty funny.

[@Liquidcadmus]

@@Mataninja I get a lot of hate from the kenpo guys, I had to block quite a few people haha

[@no-trick-pony]

"First". Will I see the infamous Dim Mak?

[@krugstillo]

Yes. Mike did the Dim Mak course from the old Black Belt magazine on the 80s.

[@lancepabon]

Lol. Or the spirit ball...

[@AstralS7orm]

You might see some Dim Sum.

[@bullpenjustin8756]

when are you going to do a seminar in person again. Love your stuff!

[@botondhetyey159]

We trained these kicks at kyokushin karate. I had pretty fast legs, so I'd use it often to stop someone coming forward. If you time and angle it well, you can jam your heel into the front of their calf as they are taking a step, and can't flex it to protect it, then it can hurt pretty bad. It also let's you create distance, so it's pretty good when you fight someone smaller who is coming at you like a tank, but it is by no means something that will end a fight by itself.

[@BrainFuck10]

Jon Jones type shiiit!

[@charlesxavier1904]

Seriously an oblique kick with boots on would destroy someone. And my job requires me to wear composite toes all the time. There really needs to be more of a difference between self defense and combat fighting systems.

[@hard2hurt]

Can you point me to some statistically significant evidence that this is true? Like I know it seems like it should be true to you... but where are all the verifiable accounts of kicks to the knee "destroying" people?

[@charlesxavier1904]

@@hard2hurt I don't have any evidence but I'm pretty sure no school trains with boots for that very reason it's basically a weapon. Just like you can't use brass knuckles in a fight. No one I know would stand around and let me swing at them with a pair of those for statistical evidence. I mean articles of clothing make a difference in a fight there's just no denying it. That's why mma fighters don't fight with GIs. I mean Eddie Bravo created a whole system for no GI grappling because fighting without gear or clothes is totally different.

[@charlesxavier1904]

@@hard2hurt actually I'm totally wrong. Found a video of idiots hitting each other with brass knuckles and they're okay so I can only assume the same for boots. Myth busted. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmnPpaJjgb1qhMU

[@johnbaptist7082]

I used this kick on my mma partner one day. When he tried to go for a high kick I lightly tapped him with my leg on his firm leg. Results were stellar. He fell to the ground not knowing what happened. I have a wing chun back round, around two and a half years of ewto. Well anyway, when he stood up he told me never to use the kick again in sparring because he was in pain. And mind you that was a lite tap not a full force kick on the knee.

[@RyanYounker]

Ohhhhh....... This is where that line that's always rattling around in my head came from. "Leg Mooscles"

[@tile1522]

How about the rountree vs bukaukas fight? That ended in a brutal oblique kick

[@Factsplease91]

y do most martial artists have a bald head ,You, Dewey, Wong, do I have to shave my head to practice martial arts

[@alexandrusimandi265]

Same reason why most soldiers have bald heads or rly rly short hair it just get.s in the way, even some girls do this

[@vonclap]

Love this guy he knows everything

[@yudipitre5720]

Very interesting enjoyed watching you guys

[@infectionsman]

My friend got hit in the knee with a side kick in the street, but it wasn't directly to the front of the knee like you typically see in mma. It was more trough the side of the knee. Made his knee buckle sideways and he was badly injured. He still has issues today.

[@fredflores7526]

I have dislocted my patelas in both knees at different times in my life. The rehab consisted of basically turning my legs into mini tree trunks because I use to have twigs for legs. So I highly agree with the fact that injury likeliness has to do with conditioning.

[@Hypnotized81]

Very jkd. First thing they showed us was kicks to the knee (front or/and side). Nasty hit

[@FirStub]

Thanks for another good one.