How to Expand Your Interface With ADAT

In this video we learn how to expand your interface with ADAT, using the Audient iD14 MKII and the ASP 800 - getting 8 extra input channels!
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[@Rickytee2]

This vid has come at an ideal time as I'll shortly be expanding my interface setup ,great stuff Mike.

[@jimfogle184]

Very clear, complete and concise tutorial on using clocks. As always, a great video to watch.

[@EdThorne]

Great video as always, Mike. So thorough with your explanation.

[@jestexgarcia3601]

Thank you very much for the upload. Very insightful. Has actually helped a lot.

[@LonelyRocker]

Great video. I use a single interface myself and always wondered how this works. Thanks for making this and shedding light on the topic...

[@CreativeSauce]

Cheers Dan. Gonna be handy when you can play guitar and drums at same time :)

[@josiahkee]

Wow, this was like the most helpful video I've ever watched. Thanks so much!

[@louispconstant6624]

I just got gifted this and an s-patch 48 balanced patch bay by my best friend. This is going to change my world of making music. thanks for the vid

[@danielectics9435]

Very helpful. I've needed this video twice already because I keep getting pops between my ID14 and ASP800. Thanks!

[@Comast2300]

Spot on mate, wanting to buy more hardware for my Techno jams and these cleared up a lot of questions! Legend.

[@creatorsremose]

What a fantastic video, so clear and to the point. Loved it!

[@aymericdelansalut2760]

I had been looking for this !!

[@felkikid]

Thanks man, ive had this 8 channel Adat rack mount for a long time. ive tried about 10 times to set it up but never got it. Once you showed where the setup tab was it all fell together. Cheers!

[@neoaltima]

Future me will thank you for this video when I get around to expanding my iD14 mkii!

[@iamtheaaronsmith8358]

Thank you so much for this!

[@jpowguitar3077]

Great video!

[@tonyadams6985]

Great.. People need this from the ground up tuition!

[@tobytheoneandonly]

Really helpful information thankyou

[@billy_valentin_]

Great Dude, helped me soooo much

[@innocentidaniel2593]

Hello encore bravo super tutoriel

[@24hrMusic]

A bit out of my reach (for now) but I always enjoy learning new stuff. Keep up the good work.

[@CreativeSauce]

Earmark for the future!

[@michaeltablet8577]

Thanks for the great videos! Is it possible to link 3 asp800's together for 24 inputs?

[@reread2549]

The ASP 800 has a great preamp system, But for me I just needed line level ins So I added a Behringer ADA 8200 to my Audient ID 14 MK II. This combination has been extremely solid and saved me 600 dollars US. If you need the coloring preamps the ASP 800 is a superb addition to the Audient ID 14 MKII. Thank you so much for this detailed video.

[@panjurz]

thanks for the suggestion! I worried different brand external preamps would not compatible to my id14ii. Now I know it works.

[@chrisbogart687]

Thanks for letting us know about this much cheaper option which for me meets my needs perfectly

[@Ian-Threaded]

Looking to do this same thing

[@afarrar3]

just used this video to setup and do just that! behringer into the audient interface

[@recordinghousebigbossmusic3471]

Very nice video

[@bishopburrell9716]

Great video. Love the sound of Audient preamps. Is it possible to run two ASP 800s via ADAT to an id44?

[@ramamorovati8627]

Great video, can you also bypass the internal mic pre of the ASP800 through ADAT connection? Thanks

[@harikoa4723]

Hey Mike, Thanks heaps for making this, you have no idea how much time and effort you're saving us noobs! (liked and subbed too). I understand this concept quite clearly thanks to your excellent tutorial but what I'm struggling with now is how would you route all of this to go through ONE external mic preamp to add some character and warmth to the recording? Say my setup is this: Audient iD14 (slave) to a Behringer Ultragain ADA8200 ADAT - and the source I want to record is drums. I've got a kick drum mic and a snare mic plugged into the two Audient iD14 pre's and then two overhead mics plugged into the Behringer via ADAT (so a total of 4 inputs being used simultaneously). I then want to send the entire drum signal through an external "character" mic preamp such as the Warm Audio wa73 and back into the interface for recording the drum tracks with the warmth from the Warm mic pre. Is this setup even possible? I hope this kind of makes sense. Please feel free to point me to a video on this if you've already done one. Thanks again Mike and take care!

[@stevelabrecque]

Great video Mike. So do both interfaces get plugged into the PC? I want to use an Arturia Audiofuse as a slave to a UAD X8. The Arturia has an ADAT out, but no way to change sampling rate other thru it's software.

[@soundsound223]

Great tutorial! It would be also really good to show us how to connect monitore control, I want to connect analogue preamp Warm Audio 73 to Clarett+ OctoPre. I would use Clarett+ OctoPre just as an AD/DA converter. But none of these two equipment has monitor or headphones control. Thank you!

[@RonnieVaiArovo]

Great, This confused me......until now ;)

[@seandonnelly6153]

Great info Mike. Im new to all this so really appreciate your tips. Will this work for the ASP 880 as well. Also i am buying the mac mini m1 . Will this all be compatible do you think. Thank you. Sean Donnelly

[@ryanlehrman9015]

Genius!

[@Davidjzmusic]

Excellent info !! One question if I want to record keyboards I should keep using the mk2 line input? Or it will be disabled after connecting the Asp 800 ? Thanks again

[@SamOjalvo]

I will be connecting my asp880 to my Apollo x8 via adat. You helped me understand how I can make it so my Apollo is the master! If I understand correctly, I just need to connect the word clocks as well as the adat out (asp880) into adat in (Apollo)? Thanks again!

[@arupsircar4855]

Do I get individual channel in my daw when using adat.. Excellent review Sir.

[@BUCKSHOTSTV]

Question: I use a UA Apollo for specific use of the Avalon 737 plug in to supplement my hardware 737. If I ran a higher end preamp like the asp800, would I be able to take advantage of the higher end pre to still be able to use the Avalon plug in after recording?

[@tylercrews9025]

I have an iD44 and instead of the asp800 or asp880 I was looking into the Clarett octopre and I'm tempted to get it for expansion instead. Would this process still work the same? I wasn't sure if there was some weird incompatibility between connecting two different brands or not, so I just wanted to confirm. Thank you!

[@kidsplaymusic]

Mike I think your videos of very good feeling very well and I've learned a lot I do have a question I have a mx88 keyboard I want to make it into my controller in PreSonus 6.2 what do I need to set that up

[@Dziricani]

Fantastic presentation Mike! Would this setup work fine if all the instruments connected to that ADAT device were synthesizers (by using their analog stereo outputs)? I only use synths and the audio interface only has 2 inputs and I don't want/like to use hardware mixers. Liked & subscribed! Thanks in advance👍

[@CreativeSauce]

Thank you. Yes, in fact that would be a great use, that I didn't mention. Much more convenient, and means simultaneously multi-track recording of course. Good luck!

[@Dziricani]

@@CreativeSauce Thanks again, Mike👍

[@hernanocampo9155]

is id 14 mkII compatible with firestudio presonus preamps?

[@JonasWrana]

Great video! Just one detail: on a mac (m1) there is no setup menu option where you set samplerate or asio buffer size. It is done under the general audio / midi settings app. I had to google 30 mins to find out that ;-)

[@LironMan]

Do you know if I can expand the ID44 with the EVO16?

[@hoagy_ytfc]

I was shopping for more inputs, but in the end concluded that my current four-input is enough - in my case, recording four at a time is enough. I have more than four things to record, just not all at the same time. The cheap solution was a patchbay. No good if you need to record ten at once, but in my case it fixed the problem cheaply.

[@danylatulippe]

Thanks Mike! That's something I didn't know even after many years of producing my own music. Expandability has just recently become a concern for me, and I find myself having many audio interfaces and none have ADAT. I'll be sure to look out for that connection type in the future. Although, I must say, the ASP 800 is a great piece of gear that comes with a hefty price tag for a hobbyist. ;) I guess I'll have to save up a bit if I want my extra inputs. ;) I have a question though. You show the routing for the ID14, but are all those inputs managed correctly/easily in Cakewalk too? Are the ASP 800 inputs seen as normal inputs or is there extra configuration to do for them to be seen?

[@CreativeSauce]

Hi Dany. Yes the ASP certainly is substantial outlay for most, and at the same time, it's stood the test of time. The preamps are incredible. Once setup, all of the inputs are seen by Cakewalk (or any other DAW), as if they are a part of the main interface. In fact, it's kind of 'set and forget'! Thanks for watching, it's appreciated.

[@danylatulippe]

@@CreativeSauce I'm from Canada, so you can assume all the prices you see are at least 1.25x here because of the exchange rate, and you can often add to that customs charges and taxes and yadi yada... it adds up pretty quickly. Thanks for the quick reply. And thanks for the incredible videos time after time.

[@CreativeSauce]

I'm feelin ya man, Australia suffers in the same way! Thanks for supporting the channel :)

[@bradroseth4549]

Is it true that if both units have ADAT in AND out that you can connect them both that way and then use the main interface as the master?

[@2mdcoe]

What if I want to add a second 8 channel mic pre for 20 total mic inputs? I have a Asp800 plus and older Presonus Digimax D8. Has the BNC word clock connection. Do I make the iD44 the master? What is the cable hookup?

[@worshiplifeteamwithjoseph9715]

Hi thank you for this video, I have two focusrite saffire pro 40 audio interfaces. One connects to the computer and the other one doesn't connect it appears it has FireWire chip issue. Is it possible to use them and get 16 channels? I'll appreciate your help

[@CJ-uy6pw]

Hi Mike. I have a metric halo 2882 interface that want to ADAT link to the Audient via ADAT. The 2882 will send to the Audient. Was wondering if analogue to digital conversion will occur twice when using two interfaces or will it just occur in 2882 , meaning will the audient take the ADAT transferred signal and re convert it, or will it recognise its already converted and just take care of the digital back to audio conversion for output? (I just got a headache trying to explain that) thanks

[@johnnysenser]

I’ve got a presonus quantum 2626, need more channels for home drum kit demos, but on a budget. Would the behringer ada8200 work as a slave interface with it ? Should I use wordclock to sync or should the adat be enough?

[@amonchhetri1053]

any change of connecting analog external compressor with adat ?

[@jillybeann]

Any suggestions on expanding the iD14 with a headphone amp for high gain headphones like the HD650 or HD800? I don't feel the headphone output has quite enough power to drive them properly.

[@DoxaDstudio]

any possibility with MOTU MK2 8 in 8 out

[@Getry]

So the extension ( audientASP800) in this case has it's own A/D converter? I though thats the point in extensions, that you use your audio interface's converter and just plug in more preamps. What's the point then in doing that insted of just buying new audio interface? Or what if you have great converter like some universal audio, and want just more inputs? Is there any way to do that differently?

[@CLDoran]

i have an old motu 8pre firewire connected to another 8pre via ADAT. Can I ADAT from one of the 8pres and get all 16 channels? Is there a limit?

[@FelipeLima-xt5qk]

Does it add some latency? I mean, if i have a guitar using asp800's input 1, will i be able to direct monitor what I'm playing? I suppose as the signal needs to pass thru d/a - a/d converters before reaching the monitors on the interface, it will add some processing time.

[@CreativeSauce]

Good question. Actually there is no perceivable latency. Remember this is a digital connection, so no analogue signsl is being sent between devices. So the A/D conversion is just the same as if you had more preamps added to your interface

[@ChakrabortyRaja]

Hi sir, guide me on thing. I have bought Audient Id14 mkii, recently. My new ID14 is releasing so much heat. Before this I have used focusrite 2i2. It wasn't released that much heat. Please help me.

[@davidrockower2703]

Finally.... an answer to clocking that isnt buried in 60 pages of manual!!

[@TENrealizaciones]

Hello, I have a question, I connect a focusrite to my id24 through adat with 2 optical cables, the software turns the light green but no audio enters any of the 8 digital channels, do I have to configure something from the Audient software? Thank you

[@TheKazzmann]

Can I use this interface as master (by usb-c to a m1 macmini) while my FireWire Focusrite liquid Saffire 56 is “slave”? Now the newer macs do not work with older FireWire hardware. My setup: Focusrite octopre mk11 Focusrite liquid Saffire 56 Aphex preamp

[@Herrys791]

Can i connecting ASP 880, 800, and ID 44 mk 2 simultaneously?

[@pbrninja19]

This gentleman's destiny was set as soon as his parents named him Mic

[@gitarman666]

Both Ins and outs for the 880 via DB25 line I/0 correct? Not sure about the 800 Edit I am using the Apollo x6 rack preferably as the master Do you feel the Apollo is the better choice over the Audient Not sure which has better jitter control

[@vividmilan9175]

Can We only use a pre amp to expand the outputs, Can't we use a another audio interface which has ADAT ?

[@GiacomoConsoloni]

if i have a 828x motu and i want expand it with 8 extra channel so with the asp800.i use to record in 44 and 48, can i use 8 channel with only one cable adat or i have to use 2 cable, 1 for the channel 1-4 and another for 5-8 ?

[@CreativeSauce]

It will work with just one cable (8 channels) at those sample rates :)

[@richardaling5278]

Great. I'm buying the Audient id44 together with 2x ASP800. Now i need another device for my adat-outs, 16 line sends, Do you know what to buy?

[@CreativeSauce]

Yeah, that's a little more tricky. Sometimes people use an affordable 16 out audio interface with ADAT, but I'm afraid I have no specific recommendation :(

[@jacobsoundradio]

When your expand your adat with another interface with more channels from a superior interface with good preamp, does it reduce the quality?

[@romyn8726]

Hey mate, i have a red light instead of a amber or green light, what does this mean?

[@benplayssongs8849]

For some reason when i set to the adat out mode i only got 4 of the 8 channels. Anyone know what i need to do to get all 8?

[@CreativeSauce]

Hi Ben. With most (if not all) ADAT units, the number of available channels depends on your sample rate. Usually to get all 8, you need to be recording at 44.1 or 48kHz

[@TechnoNates]

So I can multitrack with this?

[@philsspace69]

Hi Mike. Why did you choose 48 instead of 44.1?

[@CreativeSauce]

Hi Phil. Either is good. I tend to lean towards 48 because it's standard for video production - which is what I'm doing now 99% of the time :) But the reality is, both are fine.

[@philsspace69]

@@CreativeSauce Then I understand. I thought you mainly did music productions. So the old truth that the final product decides the sample rate still stands 🙂👍

[@sourabhsoni7845]

Can this be done with audient id4mkII as well?

[@akmakeabeat]

No ADAT On ID4

[@BullionRookie]

I’m confused. So where exactly is the audio conversion taking place? ASP or Interface?

[@JackloveYoutube]

Can any body help me on this ? I am Investing on Good Interface so I am Currently User Of focusrite 18i20 2nd gen and I am upgrading to the " prime sound Lyra 2 " which has Brilliant AD/DAs But lyra 2 is not cheap and is really expensive , but It has only Two IN and Outs , So It is something i really worried about because , I am also Going to Outboard Gears with Interface upgrade , Before it i have Done every mix ITB . So this year I am Also will invest on Mastering Grade Gears such as SSL Fusion or Thinking to Get Summing mixer. i know Lyra 2 isn't good choice for outboard gears But what about Using ADAT expansion because my Focusrite has one too Also both has worldclock . so if i EXpand my Lyra 2 ( master ) with focusrite ( Slave ) & connectiong outboard gears with my focusrite ? & keep my monitor speakers connected with the Lyra 2 to hear from Great DAs of Lyra . is it good choice ? i hope it will Bypass The CHeap AD/DA of focusrite and i only utilize the quality AD/DAs of Prism Lyra , Or i am going to hurt the quality of Lyra with such setup , sorry if this setup sounds stupid , actually just stepping in Analogue . i don't want to spend more on titan , becuase i want to buy outboard gear as well with it. ( also please don't suggest me get room treatment and great Pair Of Monitors first before going analogue , i have good room and good monitors , if i want to use analogue i just want to,thats how i will learn. lol

[@music_creator_capable]

Hey!

[@CreativeSauce]

Hey MC :)

[@tasteapiana]

ADAT? I'm currently working on a video about this that centers around building a time machine, traveling back to 1995 and where you can get plenty of cheap NOS VHS tapes. It should be up yesterday. BTW, I hated ADAT, especially when attempting to slave machines (many times video machines) with SMTPE. Alesis owes me compensation for several nervous breakdowns, gray hair, ptsd, and many other life altering complications which arose due to using their gear under duress.

[@LosFicosMusic]

Wish it had regular outputs

[@CamoHorizon]

I tried doing this with my Behringer umc1820 & no luck, any suggestions?

[@CreativeSauce]

Did you make sure to go from adat out to adat in (on the umc?)

[@CamoHorizon]

@@CreativeSauce yes I absolutely did, did the testing exactly the way you put it, i setup pro tools after & it wasnt reading input monitoring for the selected mic pres on the behringer inputs (adat input 1) & out the id14 but no luck it doesnt show active levels monitoring on the app or protools digital inputs 1-8, so now im left confused. Could it be a cross brand issue?

[@CamoHorizon]

@@CreativeSauce yes it had gone to green so it shows it was syncing correctly but i cant seem to track it.

[@CreativeSauce]

@@CamoHorizon , I don't believe it would be a cross brand issue - ADAT is a kind of standard. Plus it should be working with id14. The green sync is a good sign. I'm not quite sure as I'm not familiar with the functionality in pro tools :(

[@calvin645]

I really don’t know what you talking about because I am knowing nothing all this stuff, but reason I watching every KZbin videos it because I am trying to find out what singing equipments (best quality)I can buy , which one i should go for? All I need is a complete set of singing equipments for singing App to plugging in to my iPad!! The singing app itself called (WESING) kinda same as smule singing App. But here is a thing, what microphone is good for singing? And what else I need to purchase in order to connect to my iPad with Headphones and a best quality condenser microphone? Do I need to buy phantom power to push the power to the condenser microphone for best sound quality?? To be honest, it kinda making confusing what or How to setup a complete singing kit for me!!!! Really don’t know where to start or what should buy ? Or which best condenser microphone sound best for singing? Trying to find someone like you have a very good experienced for all this stuff to help out in the past months but still hardly to get anyone to helps!!!! To be honest,Singing it all I am using it for really…. Anyway thanks for the good review !!!!

[@YungGoatBeats]

so i can only plug Audient stuff through ADAT? i tried a Tascam DM-24 console and I couldn't make it work. Just shows me red light in the ID software, like it's incompatible. =(

[@CreativeSauce]

Hi Yung. Items don't have to be the same brand to work together with adat, but they do need to be set correctly. The red light indicates it does have sync. One needs to be set as master, the other as slave, else they won't sync.

[@lafollable]

Hi Mike. Great video, thank you very much. I'm searching in the manual and forums for just the opposite case that your video explains, and don't find an answer, maybe you know about this: Is it possible to use the adat outs of an ID44 to expand another system? I want to expand a Fireface 802 with 4 more channels, and I'm trying to connect the ID44 adat outs to the Fireface adat ins, but I did not success. I made the opposite and it worked, just in your video; connecting the Fireface into the ID44 worked perfectly. But I'm interested in use the Fireface as the main unit, as the routing matrix of its software is gorgeous. If anybody can help me it would be much appreciated. Thanks!