How to File a Chainsaw Like a Logger

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TimberHill

TimberHill

Күн бұрын

10 guys will file a chain 10 different ways. This is how I do it. It works great for me. It takes a lot of practice to get good. When I grow up I hope I'm great at it. Best of luck to you, hope this helps.

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@Drinks-and-finger-food
@Drinks-and-finger-food Жыл бұрын
One way to keep your chainsaws sharp is by doing all your dirt cuts with someone else’s saw….
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Haha love it
@Odhinn638
@Odhinn638 Жыл бұрын
Hey! That’s what I usually do!
@danagordon8871
@danagordon8871 Жыл бұрын
😂
@joshuatree6355
@joshuatree6355 Жыл бұрын
Thought it was my secret..
@JohnDoe-ny1wp
@JohnDoe-ny1wp Жыл бұрын
My son already knew that.
@WildAcresFarms
@WildAcresFarms Жыл бұрын
I used to do a newrly identical process, did it for years. Switched to a raker gauge, and I’ll never go back to eyeballing them. When you’ve rocked the chain a few times and you have 6 to 10 cutters which are much shorter than the rest? If you use a gauge to match the raker to that tooth, it still cuts glass smooth like a brand new chain. I no longer bother to worry about cutter length. If some can be 80% of original length and others are mostly gone, yet the chain cuts smoothly? I’m happy and it’s worth carrying a gauge back into the woods. Especially since West Coast Saw’s is a thin sheetmetal business card that disappears in a pocket and works so damn well.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Might have to look into that
@FirewoodfromtheSawmill
@FirewoodfromtheSawmill Жыл бұрын
@@timberhillinc please do, if you like butter cuts and smooth running!
@UNoBugMe1
@UNoBugMe1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been cutting firewood for 22 years to heat my home and always sharpened my chain like you have shown and always had good results. 2 years ago I purchased a sharpener that cuts the rake and tooth with the same stroke made by Stihl and man does it do a fantastic job. I’m a hand file guy and I won’t use anything else from now on.
@aftermanyasummer2585
@aftermanyasummer2585 Жыл бұрын
Same experience with the 2 in 1 Sharpener, saves me time, and got very good results.
@thastinger345
@thastinger345 Жыл бұрын
I have one of those as well, worth every penny and the files are replaceable.
@aftermanyasummer2585
@aftermanyasummer2585 Жыл бұрын
@@thastinger345 these are brilliant
@FirstnameLastname007
@FirstnameLastname007 Жыл бұрын
Dude there's 50 bucks now I paid under 40 last time and I thought u could just switch out the size file but I guess not I bought the 3/8 2in 1 and I like to use .325 - 3/8- 3/8lp and 1/4
@aftermanyasummer2585
@aftermanyasummer2585 Жыл бұрын
@@FirstnameLastname007 I have a 3/8 since the begining. It was around 30 € here in France. And yes, it's one device per chain type, which somehow sucks. Probably not worth it if you're running different chains. Does the job for me, looking around to find a used one for sale for my 3/8 Pico chains (I'm running a Husky 365 and a light sthil 30cc when the tree is down).
@kody7316
@kody7316 Жыл бұрын
I'm not at all a woodsman by any means, but when I was told I needed to file the rakers on my saw I'm here to tell you I filed them... alot that chain would damn near pull the saw out of your hands... live and learn😂😂😂
@craiglowrey9550
@craiglowrey9550 Жыл бұрын
When you started up that Husky it reminded me of my first one. Sweet and always started! My newest husky is good but has a short bar, cuz I'm gittin' old and only cut a bit of fire wood. After 45+ years I still like the Husky's. Thanks for the video, I've always sharpened like that too and your comment about "taking a break" as you file is that reset.
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re Жыл бұрын
the way you amerifarts pronounce husqvarna =[
@popswrench2
@popswrench2 Жыл бұрын
ok , peanut gallery chat here . 40+yrs dealer and home sharpening , file and grind (thousands of grinds ) , GREAT 'tutorial' . one point you missed in word but you did in practice ; 10* up angle on file . important in technique in field more than the angles as help keep file "C" , on tooth where it belongs AND angles file thru corner cutting point as it should be .... will stay sharp longer . good stuff .
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@clwnthr
@clwnthr Жыл бұрын
​@@timberhillinc So, to sum it up, the file should not be flat but at about a 10 degree angle. What's the reason for this, though (just curious) ? 🙂 And thanks for the great video, much appreciated.
@woodsarmoury
@woodsarmoury Жыл бұрын
Great video. My dad taught me to hand file, but still I picked up a couple of good tricks from this video, like the stick under the chain. But much of what he taught me was as you described. I believe this knowledge was passed down by grandfather... so this stuff is old school and tried and true.
@eagerlawncare3700
@eagerlawncare3700 Жыл бұрын
I'm only a landscaper and I usually don't handle a chainsaw until fall/winter tree work and I gave up using the "saw shop" sharpening service, the time saved sharpening your own chain is well worth the hack job I do to my chains. if you don't like how you sharpen a chain .. get better at it
@IRONHORSE427RACING
@IRONHORSE427RACING Жыл бұрын
Been a production faller for years now own our own little family run logging outfit and that's about as good a video on how to I've seen on the tube. We always carry several sharp chains in our pack to limit the time spent filing on a stump.
@eachday9538
@eachday9538 Жыл бұрын
That's the solution I ended up at on the fireground. I still carried a stump vice and files, but it was worth the weight of two extra chains to keep moving and sort it back at the nice workbench at the end of the day in the shed infront of the fan. I don't understand the physics/biology/paranormal phenomenon, but logs were never located in the shade.
@garystamour9817
@garystamour9817 Жыл бұрын
I can sharpen faster than you can change your chain. As long as I didn't hit a rock
@eachday9538
@eachday9538 Жыл бұрын
@@garystamour9817 I should have clarified, I'm thinking mostly about working on fire grounds where we were opening up Australian hardwoods, often termite infested and contaminated with mineral earth and mopping up burning crap on the ground in sandstone escarpment country with rock everywhere that we would inevitably knick every now and then. So it might be a good ten proper file strokes per tooth for a sharpen. And we were often flown in by heli with everyone on overtime so every hour on the fireground was worth big money. And then the maddening heat. Hence the weighting given to a shady shed and a fan! But I also tended to carry that practice on into general trail clearing out of habit.
@IRONHORSE427RACING
@IRONHORSE427RACING Жыл бұрын
@@garystamour9817 I'm sure lots can sharpen quicker than me. I still carry a stump clamp and files but run my own company now so no body bitches when the boss hits a rock and wants to swap out chains. I find as I get older....I seem to have become a rock magnet for some odd reason.
@stevefromlondon9175
@stevefromlondon9175 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video I have learnt some great tips just like that bit of wood under the chain an easy clear video to follow Regards Steve UK London
@denisesilva9721
@denisesilva9721 Жыл бұрын
Nice job! Cuts like it's going through butter. Love the suspenders!
@anemone104
@anemone104 Жыл бұрын
Suspenders: Things to keep yer stockings up. But 'I'm a lumberjack so that's okay'. Old Brit geezer joke. Yer filing is very like mine. Good stuff.
@rooster3019
@rooster3019 Жыл бұрын
Zen and the Art of Chainsaw Maintenance
@drewkryger1102
@drewkryger1102 Жыл бұрын
i only cut 6 or so cords of firewood a year to heat with. love watching you daily drivers for some pro insight!
@CoyoteWorks01
@CoyoteWorks01 Жыл бұрын
Man I hope you keep up the videos. Liked the simple approach to sharpening. Solid stuff!
@bradbently
@bradbently Жыл бұрын
great info brother. people need to learn this I can't stand hearing home owners don't have a saw because there waiting on the shop to sharpen the chain!
@timbradeen8459
@timbradeen8459 Жыл бұрын
Nice job man! The best way to learn how to file a saw is to just start doing it. An old guy showed me this stuff years ago. Now I'm becoming the old guy. Those old clapped out 372 saws are the way to go.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's where I learned, the old timber faller. (Grandpa in-law then father in-law) Those are good saws.
@Smokey66s
@Smokey66s Жыл бұрын
Production timber fallers often grind several chains after work and take them to work, changing a chain take less time than filing. Time to sharpen on job cuts down on board feet. Plus it’s hard to beat a Silvey square chain grinder. As a firewood cutter, I appreciated the info on this video.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
A lot more comes into play when you talk about long term production. That "mental reset" I talked about, leaves you feeling way better, being able to make up that little time, and more, quickly. Anyway, just my opinion, little food for thought. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@bennyblanko3
@bennyblanko3 Жыл бұрын
@@timberhillinc Yeah, I like the mental reset idea. Something about focusing on sharpening kinda puts you in a different zen mode or something. I don't sharpen in the woods if I don't have to. But, I'm not cutting all day long either, and usually not to far of a walk back to the truck to grab a different chain or saw. You make really good videos. You could have showed a little slower and close up of how you get to the last little bit, where the chrome on the tooth comes off though. More tips please!
@austindenotter19
@austindenotter19 Жыл бұрын
No need for silvey or extra chains. Learn to sharpen your saw faster-better.
@hillbilly4christ638
@hillbilly4christ638 4 ай бұрын
A file is a lot lighter than several chains. In the time it takes to swap a chain, you pretty much have your saw filed. That may work for firewood, but packing in and felling is a different story. You might want to carry a spare chain, but it is super easy to break out the file and get busy
@Smokey66s
@Smokey66s 4 ай бұрын
@@hillbilly4christ638 with a week leeway ahead of cats-long ago, steep ground, skidders and no time to spare, filing a chain on the jobs slows down timber hitting the ground. Even cutting firewood I didn’t want to spend time filing a chain unless minor fast touch up, however if the teams filed their chains every time they rocked or hit some metal in tree, you do not want production crew waiting on timber fallers, and if you didn’t stay ahead, you would be looking for another job. I never worked with a timber faller that didn’t own a Simington or Silvey square chain grinder and didn’t file chains after work in preparation for next day, lot of teeth on a 36” to 42” chain, Big timber jobs in Sierra Nevadas, 3 to five steep sides, 4-6 sets of fallers, trucks lined up at landings. Sierra Pacific Logging owned by Red Emerson, one of the top five land owners in US, busy busy logging operations. I have no doubt you are faster with a file than I, you have to be and I am sure filing is the better route for you. Things change, I retired years ago when the state of the art and go to saws were the McCulloch SuperPro 125, olden days, preferably with a cart engine.
@jasondavis2810
@jasondavis2810 Жыл бұрын
A find stainless wire toothbrush is fantastic for cleaning files and keeping them cutting good and if they sit the filings don’t rust in the groves. Your more fuel efficient to sharpen your chains
@SC-by6bv
@SC-by6bv Жыл бұрын
Only issue I see is you have no backstop preventing your bar from moving all over . I always did my sharpening beside a stump so the bar doesn’t move. Makes a huge difference in how sharp you can get it.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
That makes sense, often I can find a little bigger log and the Dawgs will grab it better and that helps too. Thanks.
@eoin4768
@eoin4768 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video thanks from Ireland
@t.h.o.r.
@t.h.o.r. Жыл бұрын
Top work mate! I only saw my own trees- but watching you made me realise that i should subscribe for more fashion tips
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!
@superduper6570
@superduper6570 Жыл бұрын
One tips, rotete the chain the other way, mutch safer. I have also noticed that after the chain is half worn or so 5,2mm file (13/64) works better. Keep up the work!
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Oh, I'll have to try that. I just file downward further when the tooth get smaller, kinda weakens the chain though. Thanks!
@ronaldbrown5745
@ronaldbrown5745 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention how your forcing the file to get the top plate to peal and be sharp. A sharp top plate and proper depth gauge setting is where it all happens.
@garettstahl
@garettstahl Жыл бұрын
Been running chainsaws for many many years. Since I was a child. Still trying to improve my sharpening skills. Fell into the “extra chain” trap for too long. Time to get this file thing down to a science. I like to take my time falling trees so I need sharp chains to keep up the pace at a steady rate of fall
@LabsLive
@LabsLive Жыл бұрын
"do something besides pack that saw around and be scared for your life" frickin hilarious
@aBigMeanie
@aBigMeanie 5 ай бұрын
the Husqvarna 5052435-01 Combination Gauge 3/8 inch (5.5 mm) is a progressive raker gauge with soft and hard wood settings. compact and easy enough to carry and use.
@joshuawray5917
@joshuawray5917 Жыл бұрын
use a depth gauge after you file.. you can keep them as short as possible and still cut smooth. then every raker is set to each tooth. also when my chain starts wearing back i change file sizes and then again when its about gone. you can wear a chain to nothing this way and they still cut smooth and wow are they fast when worn down and sharp. you can get a lot more life out of a chain. they are getting expensive
@br-dj2ti
@br-dj2ti Жыл бұрын
Great video buddy definitely I tell you something might help you dig your saw into a log a little bit and sharpen it that way that way your bar is not bouncing around. That's what I do it helps a lot God bless
@JENSENDIY
@JENSENDIY Жыл бұрын
I like trees too, especially with my 372 in hand! nice video!
@garystamour9817
@garystamour9817 Жыл бұрын
Your the first guy I've ever seen file like I do, right hand then the left
@Northwoods208
@Northwoods208 Жыл бұрын
I pack a ground chain in a crown royal bag that's tied to my gas jug, and pack the dulled one out the same way. Not to say I never square file in the brush, but seldom
@christilton350
@christilton350 Жыл бұрын
Same just stick them in a little pouch with the dolmar. I’ve always found sharpening in the woods to be inefficient.
@Northwoods208
@Northwoods208 Жыл бұрын
@@christilton350 agreed. And no matter how good you can chisel file, silvey can do it better lol
@0C34NF13LD
@0C34NF13LD Жыл бұрын
This is excellent content. Nice work on the editing too. Loved everything you had to say. Subscribed!
@Podobed
@Podobed Жыл бұрын
As someone who is new to using a chainsaw- (2-3 years)- the idea of using one 1 handed is so unfathomable. Hope to see more content-
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Haha that was purely cinematic, to show the good cutting chain. Rarely do I do that in practice, maybe sometimes when I have it dawged into a back cut while falling a tree. Otherwise I feel in most situations, it's very unsafe. Thank you much
@metaspencer
@metaspencer Жыл бұрын
The chest clamp method! Good to see your method and to find your channel. I've subbed
@gratefultedd969
@gratefultedd969 Жыл бұрын
Not mentioned but observed in this video is that you painted your bar tool high vis orange. This is a really great idea. Think Ill donthis with my flie handles as well.
@andrewarmstrong9194
@andrewarmstrong9194 2 ай бұрын
I like to prop the bar up on a tree at about a 45, with the saw on the ground between my legs, that gives me good control, the chain doesn't move nearly as much, and when you got a really buggered up chain it allows you to dig the file into it if need be.
@jimreap139
@jimreap139 Жыл бұрын
Great attitude and very helpful.
@michaelkearney5562
@michaelkearney5562 Жыл бұрын
It's sharp! Great video. Nice touch with the piece of timber. P. S. Nice suspenders. You can't beat original thinking.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@freeheeler09
@freeheeler09 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had too many saw blades messed up by saw shops. So, I’m watching these videos to try to bet better at sharpening my saws
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Good for you. It's a very useful skill to have if you use a saw often. I am constantly trying to get better at it myself. This method is my go to because it works well for me, but I experiment with different techniques while maintaining my bar and sharpening my chain to see if I can improve in any way. Good Luck!
@kanepreton9588
@kanepreton9588 Жыл бұрын
Every fiber in my body is screaming "your doing it wrong" yet it's all going pretty swimmingly 😂
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Жыл бұрын
The raker is the depth gauge for ea indivdual tooth so if a tooth is short the raker needs to be shortened an equivalent amount, equal strokes on the rakers usually only works about the first half of the chains life but as the teeth get worn to differeing lengths the rakers need to be tweaked to the individual tooth length to continue cutting straight. IMHO.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
I check the size of tooth when I file and try to keep them all as close to the same as possible, even if it means I have to take a couple extra swipes on an already sharp tooth. I did have that problem when I first started filing (cutting circles) and that's what I was told then. Good point to bring up.
@jasonmichaeljimenez
@jasonmichaeljimenez Жыл бұрын
That was a good informative video. Nice work.
@shaner67
@shaner67 Жыл бұрын
Awesome real world video.. Funny how so many cookie guys on the internet only know how to file using a vise to hold the bar. These same guys have never worked in the bush and need to file when you have to. Great attitude man, stay safe and awesome 👍.. Suspenders rock btw
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@maxgerritsen954
@maxgerritsen954 Жыл бұрын
i like to have the tip of the saw against a heavy piece of wood so it doesnt move around as much, you go a little slower that way but it feels like i get the chain sharper
@lumbearjack1439
@lumbearjack1439 Жыл бұрын
Like your spendies man, followed
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@paulliebeck2640
@paulliebeck2640 Жыл бұрын
If I tuck my shirt in when I cut, I’ll have 3 handfuls of chips in an uncomfortable place.
@WideCutSawmill
@WideCutSawmill Жыл бұрын
Sometimes if you put your hand behind the thing you’re trying to focus on so the majority of the frame is that distance the camera will refocus. 👍🏼
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Oh cool, I'll try that out 👍
@crow0411
@crow0411 Жыл бұрын
If you are using a go pro, which I believe you said you were, it is a fixed aperture camera so you cannot select focus.
@WideCutSawmill
@WideCutSawmill Жыл бұрын
@@crow0411 good info. 👍🏼
@allancrow134
@allancrow134 Жыл бұрын
There are only two things I won't lend, my chainsaw or my wife, otherwise ask away I'm here to help. :)
@jimlambrick4642
@jimlambrick4642 Жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of rookies file too deep so you get a hook edge that won't hold sharp for long. I always finish the stroke with a slight up pull to smooth off the upper edge with the mid file. Also sometimes use a triangle file for last stroke.
@DeadWoodLogging6996
@DeadWoodLogging6996 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Got yourself a new subscriber. Keep it up and stay safe !
@trishaplescia9234
@trishaplescia9234 Жыл бұрын
great video, very informative. that one is wicked sharp, cuttin like butter
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I try.
@WideCutSawmill
@WideCutSawmill Жыл бұрын
0:39 haha. Never seen flag used for that. Nice!
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi Жыл бұрын
This farmer didn't know how to sharpen his chain. He bought spare chain by the case. I counted over 24 chains in the scrap bin. I was going take them and buy a chainsaw that took that chain. I wouldn't of had to buy a chain again.😅
@thedailylogger1045
@thedailylogger1045 Жыл бұрын
Another good video brother! I always get a kick out of seeing how other guys file, like you say everybody does it different. As long as it cuts smooth and you have to hold 'er back a bit it's cuttin right I think! I fall into the stump vise mode myself, like having it held down positive. I can remember the old Carlton File-O-Plate, used one for years, now it's pretty well implanted in my hands I guess. But it worked outstanding for taking the rakers down to the correct height after for the sharp tooth... thanks for putting these out, theyre good! Be safe
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thanks friend! I'm having fun with it.
@stevejanek8072
@stevejanek8072 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, fantastic tutorial! Your tempo & speed of delivery is outstanding! My 1st vid of yours and I’m now subbed! Keep ‘em coming brother!
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@RobCalhounPGH
@RobCalhounPGH Жыл бұрын
Liked immediately on the suspenders. When "I'll just go back and get..." is NOT an option.
@everlysuniquetimbersawshop
@everlysuniquetimbersawshop Жыл бұрын
Love the suspenders! What sweatshirt do you have on? Why would you file the rakers first? File the tooth first and then the raker. The raker tells the tooth how big of a bite to take. Set the tooth where it needs to be and then set the depth of the raker. Each tooth doesn’t need to be the same size or height nor do they need the same amount of swipes….the raker will set the tooth up to match the others. .025-.030” from the cutter tooth. Also, when you’re filing in the bush, put your bar tip against something so the stops moving and allows you to save some energy.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
I file the rakers first just in case I accidentally hit the tooth with the flat file. Then i don't get so bummed when it happens becuase i need to sharpen it anyway. I don't have any instruments to measure all that so I just go by feel. Makes sense though. Thank you.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thanks haha I am wearing a big bill hickory.
@everlysuniquetimbersawshop
@everlysuniquetimbersawshop Жыл бұрын
@@timberhillinc no guides or gauges here either. All mine is by sight and feel. Enjoy!
@blukanu2
@blukanu2 Жыл бұрын
If you got one low tooth sitting between two higher ones, it ain’t biting nothing, no matter how low the raker. Love the video. Same way I was taught in a high production outfit.
@suziehartwright
@suziehartwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😉 👍 Nice suspenders too.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
You bet, thanks!
@briananderson4552
@briananderson4552 Жыл бұрын
So on the rakers roll your wrist forward so it won't kick like a mule if you gotta plung cut 👍
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and I go at a little bit of a downward angle, so there is kind of a little ridge on the raker.
@johncagle1413
@johncagle1413 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Simple approach, I’m sure it takes practice to get it right, I’m gonna try to start doing it this way.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Hope it works out for you.
@patdenney7046
@patdenney7046 Жыл бұрын
Learn the square file young man! Never suck dirt into your cut! Bark is dirt! The reason why your rakers are too high is because you’re wearing the chain out on the part that rides against the bar which damages the geometry of the chain! Your Timberfaller with the clapped out saw? Yes that chain will cut but it’s the bare basics. Just because the gullit so cleaned out and your rakers are destroyed along with the chain . But I got to say the suspenders make up for all good job .( You forgot the pad so you could carry your saw) A 28 inch bar ? Good job on the video ! And stay safe you’re doing one of the most dangerous jobs on the planet!
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I can fall timber but I'm actually a logger. Dirt is from notching stumps (tending hook). This is the rigging crews saw, my timber falling saw is a Husqvarna 3120 with a 28" bar (second growth) or a 36 and 42 for the big stuff. Thanks for everything, might have to experiment with the square filing
@Shifffyy
@Shifffyy Жыл бұрын
Nice video my man. I use a stump vice, but it’s actually just more hours bent over. I might have to try your laying on the saw style sometime. See if it helps the back.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can definitely feel it too, helps to lay a sweatshirt down like a pillow between chest and saw if you shed a layer at some point in the day.
@7eis
@7eis Жыл бұрын
Laying on the saw is why I don't swap the filter on my 372 for a high top. Pokes you right in the belly.
@JamesBond-so1of
@JamesBond-so1of Жыл бұрын
​@@7eis lose some weight and get rid of the belly and it won't bother you 😂😂😂
@D2500R
@D2500R Жыл бұрын
Seems like if you tighten the chain tighter just to file it you could do without having to use the piece of wood. I'd rather have a more steady saw also. I put the bar/chain down on a piece of wood to hold it from moving so much. Makes it easier to make sure the cutter is straight.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
I tighten it to where it should be before I file, not special for filing. Yes, the wobbly bar sucks, I don't usually fight it that much. The bark was part gone underneath me. Putting the bar by a piece of wood is a great idea, or a limb would be cool too.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Жыл бұрын
Fella you and I must be brothers from different mothers. You do exactly the same as myself. What would you do when cutting frozen hard wood ???
@Juzzy520
@Juzzy520 Жыл бұрын
Good info that!💪💪👍
@williamgarrity9482
@williamgarrity9482 Жыл бұрын
How often do you have to sharpen during the day , a good day .thanks for sharing. God bless yall real good.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
If I cut for 6 hours straight, I'll usually touch it up once or twice, given that I don't stick it in the dirt. If that happens, I'll finish my current cut and file. It's not good to run a dull chain.
@williamgarrity9482
@williamgarrity9482 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for hitting me back , I been cutting cords 40 years to heat my home southern maryland, mostly oak ,45 years ago I used to climb, not any more .be safe out thier.
@DEFENDERNZ
@DEFENDERNZ Жыл бұрын
I find if a raker is too tall you can tell as it looks almost polished smooth on top. And actually, you shouldn't keep 2 or more files in the same pocket unless they're protected from one another. . A fast way to ruin files is to have them rubbing together.
@MattGlynn
@MattGlynn Жыл бұрын
Great and simply put. Thanks for sharing.
@shawn6632
@shawn6632 Жыл бұрын
Boss makes a dollar. I make a dime. That's why I file chain. On company time. 😁
@mriwayanofficial69
@mriwayanofficial69 Жыл бұрын
Same job my freand😂👌👍💪
@joeskewes9618
@joeskewes9618 Жыл бұрын
Suspenders are awesome 😎
@anthonyheath7549
@anthonyheath7549 Жыл бұрын
Using a file without a handle can be dangerous.The tang can be quite sharp.
@tobiassmith7942
@tobiassmith7942 Жыл бұрын
I only ever do the rakers by feel, I sharpen then do a quick cut in something to see how much it bites then I know how much I need to take off the rakers for what I'm felling. (Obviously another stroke for softwood)
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Right on. That's what the pros taught me, "file for the wood you are in."
@mcporter03
@mcporter03 Жыл бұрын
3 loops of sharp helps me wake up. I do carry a chain and raker file, but I never file before noon if I can help it
@lemoneyewash169
@lemoneyewash169 Жыл бұрын
simple tap to the file helps every few links. knocks shavings off
@howarddavidiii6171
@howarddavidiii6171 Жыл бұрын
All good tips,Thanks for your informative video.
@indigatorveritatis8891
@indigatorveritatis8891 Жыл бұрын
A stump vise would make it much easier
@njonebale7889
@njonebale7889 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, subscribed…thought you were cleaning that limb out of the way so you could wax the tree behind you…that would of been a good ending….shouting…”closing time!”
@Ken-o2d
@Ken-o2d 16 күн бұрын
If you can't grind your chains and put them in a backpack you should find a job being a greater at Walmart. Fileing a chain when cutting timber coast you 60 bucks. I'm a 37 year veteran cutter cut in south east Alaska.
@UNcommonSenseAUS
@UNcommonSenseAUS Жыл бұрын
Ypu can sit with the saw between ypur legs, handle on the ground base away from you then cup the bar & chain with your left hand & file with the right, then swap sides, do an extra swipe on your weak side.
@oakiewoodsman
@oakiewoodsman Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Ibiron
@Ibiron Жыл бұрын
Nice vibe. Good advice.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@edpottinger849
@edpottinger849 Жыл бұрын
Didnt need to watch the whole video.Youre doing the right way.And allways pack an extra chain.If you're falling and rock you're chain then you can loose have you're chain re-filing it.Good vid.I just didnt watch all of it because he is doing everything the way I was taught. A message to Drinks and Fingers Food if you did that then you would be in a fist fight with whoever's saw you used to be in the rocks.What you said would be fighting words to any experienced faller
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for the advice.
@edpottinger849
@edpottinger849 Жыл бұрын
@@timberhillinc You bet
@nobodythatyouknow241
@nobodythatyouknow241 Жыл бұрын
Rakers should be done after. Otherwise you they aren't set for the freshly filed cutters. Use a raker gauge. Guessing isn't the best way.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
If a guy can be consistent with the swipes on the rakers from the start of the life of the chain, and keep the teeth the same size, it works well. I think you're probably right though, it's not the best way, but it works.
@edge540steve
@edge540steve Жыл бұрын
Good video man, thats how I've always done it.
@jtownsend220
@jtownsend220 Жыл бұрын
Very awesome video!
@WideCutSawmill
@WideCutSawmill Жыл бұрын
I’ve never filed my rackers before. What is the benefit of it?
@lumbearjack1439
@lumbearjack1439 Жыл бұрын
Let's your saw keep cutting. The raker controls how much bite each tooth gets.
@stevenwescott1422
@stevenwescott1422 Жыл бұрын
Depth of cut. Too much jumpy. Too little slow. Less depth for hardwood, more for softwood.
@njonebale7889
@njonebale7889 Жыл бұрын
Only two or three passes like the guy did, you take too much off and the saw will bite too hard and bog and stall, and won’t cut worth anything, if your shooting out powder your rakers are too high, gonna need a couple passes to get the chips flying!
@rippn6124
@rippn6124 Жыл бұрын
Eyesafety
@johnsonr9
@johnsonr9 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
You bet
@gunterbecker8528
@gunterbecker8528 Жыл бұрын
Like u style 😂👍👍👍👌
@reeceedwards2509
@reeceedwards2509 Жыл бұрын
Yes that helps what about chain heats?
@welshwizard822
@welshwizard822 Жыл бұрын
Good vid, did anyone teach you to use file handles and why. It dont have to be a fancy handle just a piece of wood will do. As long as the tang is covered
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
No, because they often just get lost. I got tired of poking my hand and bought some and have had several and I like using them, I just can't keep track of them. Nice to grip though for sure.
@needmoreboost6369
@needmoreboost6369 Жыл бұрын
$15 for a sharpen $10 for a bar dress and $75 for a carb overhaul is what I charge here in oz
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Thats a good deal
@christopherstephens6963
@christopherstephens6963 Жыл бұрын
Good tips, appreciate the time.
@maxfoulger6107
@maxfoulger6107 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t you do ur rakers after the tooth so I can judge how much needs to come off?
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
On a new chain I do, or if I rock it really bad I'll wait until after I file the teeth, but most times I know by the way it cuts the last time I filed whether or not I need to take some off.
@scatoutdebutter
@scatoutdebutter Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Keep up the good videos!
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
You betcha!
@Peter-od7op
@Peter-od7op 5 ай бұрын
Buckin billy ray smith would love this vdo
@branchmanager1100
@branchmanager1100 Жыл бұрын
A Gauge is good to indicate if you File too low. Also, I guess I missed where you marked first Raker to last- to make sure you got them all- not a full rev on the chain - or did twice. I'm old . What would I know ?😂
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
So you can start at the double tooth (2 teeth in a row with same angle) to be sure, but it's also pretty easy to tell just by looking at it. The not filed one's will be smooth and polished looking, and the freshly filed ones will be shiny and textured by the file.
@lukewilcock428
@lukewilcock428 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to all the climbing arborists who’s saws go through hell an back along side them, wishing sharpening was this easy in arboriculture. 😩 Not taking anything away from the loggers I don’t think I could do that job all day every day!
@timberhillinc
@timberhillinc Жыл бұрын
Haha I bought a rope runner and saddle to do a job for a neighbor. Removing big dead doug fir limbs 90 feet above her house. Been a long time since I've been that terrified. Hats off to you guys for sure. I'll make a logger pretends to be an arborist video eventually. Should be a good laugh.
@FredsPenner
@FredsPenner Ай бұрын
I find it much better to wear a belt that holds my wrench and files, keeping a file in your pocket sounds like an accident waiting to happen
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