How to fill your own propane tank

Filling a 40lb tank from a 500 gallon tank

[@shepardthinks]

Thank you! I love it when men man up and simply get stuff done! I wish I knew where to buy the complete setup including all of the valves and hoses and fittings.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Nash fuel on eBay

[@jrwjrw4329]

Amazon

[@Yhrim70]

2:11 I know this is an older video... but for those who may be watching this I just thought I would point out that your purge valve in your fill hose is in the wrong location. In this video you have the POL adapter connected the ball shutoff valve, then the purge valve behind it. *The purge valve goes between the POL adapter **_(which is the fitting that screws into the tank you want to fill)_** , and the line shutoff valve **_(ball valve with yellow handle)_** .* POL --> Purge Valve --> Ball Shutoff Valve *-->I'll get into why connecting it this way is better below:* ## First a word of warning... Wear Insulated Gloves before you start!! You can get frostbite if hit with enough propane, and even if you don't get frost bite even a quick small hit will burn a bit. Once everything is hooked up and connected. To purge the line, you keep the valve on the tank you are filling closed, open the line shutoff valve _(ball valve with yellow handle)_ , then open the purge port. Once the line is purged of air _(which only takes a few seconds depending on how far you open it)_ close the purge port, and then begin your tank filling procedure. _(slowly open the propane tank valve you are filling, and if you want crack open the bleed/vent screw on the side of the tank valve to get a full fill)_ Once the tank is filled, you close the bleed screw _(if you opened it)_ then close the tank valve. Next close the line shutoff valve _(ball valve with yellow handle)_ , then once again open the line purge valve. **If you have your connections setup like I stated at the beginning ~ POL --> Purge Valve --> Ball Shutoff Valve ~ It will allow the propane between the tank valve and the ball line shutoff valve to escape in a controlled safe direction. Instead of it spewing out everywhere and freezing your hand when you unscrew the POL adapter from the tank.** Of course after you done filling tanks, close the supply (big) tank valve, point the hose in a safe direction and open the line valve to allow the propane in the line to escape as you shouldn't leave the line under pressure, as well as for safety reasons. Again, just thought I would post this for people watching, might help someone.

[@TheMasterMUF]

You are correct. I don’t know why I installed the purge valve at that location.

[@Yhrim70]

​@@TheMasterMUF At one point, I had mine assembled in the correct order... then because of someone else I took it all apart and installed it like your's was... and when I used it the next time I was like _"Why did I do that?"_ So I had to take it all apart again and put it back like I had it to begin with. lol We all make mistakes, when i do i just hope i learn from them.

[@sandrarichardson2713]

Hi---this is the best video (explanations and camera work) that I have seen on this. Where do I find all the fittings for this? Help from anyone is appreciated. I checked online for the whole set-up and it is about $300 and up. I know I can put this together myself but not sure where to look to find the parts you have shown. Thanks a million for your help with this. Jesus bless.

[@Vgp-rp4iu]

I use to fill propane bottles and we would always leave the relief valve open a bit until the liquid came out then shut it off.

[@harleyanderson1866]

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[@waylonpeyton8067]

@Harley Anderson i would suggest Flixzone. Just google for it =)

[@ezrajoel870]

@Waylon Peyton yup, I have been using FlixZone for years myself :D

[@harleyanderson1866]

@Waylon Peyton Thanks, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) Appreciate it !!

[@waylonpeyton8067]

@Harley Anderson glad I could help xD

[@A.C.71]

Can you provide links to all the parts needed to do this?

[@arthurmedina6175]

Great video my friend! Now I can do it myself thks again!!

[@TheMasterMUF]

A lot cheaper that getting it filled at a filling station. Just remember that the tank needs to be completely empty.

[@robertbernard651]

The transfer kits are about $300. Or more

[@stickman-1]

Don't do what he's doing "checking for liquid." The propane comes out well below freezing (-40F) so that will cause frost bite on human skin. Use glove or just don't put your hands in the flow.

[@ScorpioSin777]

Where did you get the equipment to do this?

[@JohnFekoloid]

That air you're letting out, isn't it flammable?

[@TheMasterMUF]

Yes . It is

[@gametrue2229]

Is there a way to store wood gas or hho in a propane tank?

[@supporterofeverythingyouli6255]

You don't need a purge on end of hose.

[@richardsandwell2285]

Surely they need to be filled to the correct pressure, lest the temperature increases and the whole thing blows up. You can buy a special regulator to do this safely.

[@marzsit9833]

not true. for decades, propane tanks have been filled by liquid volume during filling in all climates and the tank manufacturers have already allowed for expansion and contraction due to temperature variations as far as safety is concerned. siphoning propane from one tank to another is really not more complicated than siphoning gas from a car into a gas can. but is is important to keep the receiving tank level for accurate readings. this technique can also be used to empty the contents of a common 20lb grill tank into an rv's built-in fuel tank using the proper fittings to connect the tanks. the grill tank has to be inverted to flow liquid and it needs to be elevated above the rv tank. you can liquid-fill through the vapor valve on the rv's tank since the fitting needed to connect to the liquid fill port is ridiculously expensive to buy.. the rv tank will have a bleeder valve just like a grill tank, sometimes a screwdriver valve but most have a thumbwheel valve that requires no tools.

[@Vgp-rp4iu]

Richard Sandwell when I use to fill propane tanks the tank was put on a scale and filled to the correct weight weather it was a 20, 30, 40 or 100# tank.

[@danielravet2995]

Après le remplissage de gaz mon bbq ne marche pas

[@nickatnight4386]

I have a full 500 gallon tank that used to be connected to a large generator, we got a new generator connected to our under ground tank my question is can I just connect to the old line that was feeding the generator or is that gas and not liquid. Thanks

[@TheMasterMUF]

The line connected to the generator is going to be gas not liquid. Is that line connected to a pressure regulator? I you have a regulator between the generator and the tank then that line is gas.

[@charliebutts5453]

VERY VERY SIMPLE..from someone that has done this 1000 times inn the hot air balloon business. Open relief valve and leave it open until liquid comes out. If you want to check and see if you are nearly full--shake and tilt a little bit

[@genepro2041]

Is the transfer valve and hose attached permanently to the bulk tank? Or you have to empty the hose and remove the valve every time after use?

[@TheMasterMUF]

It up to you. You can leave the hose connected permanently. I remove my hose and leave the valve.

[@Virgilsvortex]

When you removed your cap on your check lock did you have propane escape? I loosened mine just a bit and heard propane and stopped not sure if this is normal.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Not on mine. But it is possible that some gas will escape while the valve closes, it’s also possible that you have a bad check lock.

[@Virgilsvortex]

@@TheMasterMUF you are correct... A little pressure did build up over the years. Thanks for the reply

[@mikecubes1642]

thats how they fill my forklift tanks they open the bleeder and stop filling when it spits out some liquid. does the fitting on the big tank have a pipe that goes down into the liquid gas?

[@TheMasterMUF]

mike cubes... yes that is why I bleed the hose until I get liquid.

[@kylestrokelitus360]

Do you have links to get the exact setup..or a video showing you modifying the normal setup to get to this point

[@thastinger345]

Ebay store name is "propane-kits"

[@woodywes4093]

www.ebay.com/itm/1-5-8-20-F-TO-POL-LIQUID-PROPANE-TRANSFER-KIT-TANK-GRILL-FILLER-FILL-UNLOADING/181648131163?hash=item2a4b12845b:g:~tkAAOSw1ZBUwqrh&vxp=mtr

[@PatrickCSullivan]

why did you put the bleeder on the wrong side of the valve? youre just wasting gas the line should just have liquid propane in it all the time and the purpose of the line bleeder is so that you can remove the pressure between the tank valve and the hose valve when you disconnect the two. the ebay item you referenced shows it in the correct position. ebay item 181648131163

[@TheMasterMUF]

Patrick Sullivan I just noticed that. I use the bleeder valve to purge the gas from the line once the gas is purged the line will be filled with liquid and stay filled. If you don’t purge the line you will introduce air in to the tank that is being filled.

[@PatrickCSullivan]

TheMasterMUF yes but you still have it on the wrong side. all you’re doing is wasting gas, if it’s on the other side you can still bleed it between the valves without emptying the entire line every time unnecessarily.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Patrick Sullivan.. I agree, I will be changing it.

[@1nickajack]

@@TheMasterMUF I'd appreciate seeing the change you make, not sure what you guys are saying.

[@whitenas]

Will this work if 500 gallon tank is in the ground?

[@TheMasterMUF]

Yes. Just make sure that you are using the liquid side.

[@whitenas]

@@TheMasterMUF great! Thank you

[@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys]

I enjoyed watching your video but it made me nervous as hell and I feared for your life~!!!!

[@TheMasterMUF]

Rickarama Trama is not as bad as it looks. Driving to work is more dangerous.

[@RichHiney]

Don’t ever put the wrong valve in a tank. You’re over filling the tank and that’s dangerous. You people scare me. You shouldn’t be showing people too do things the wrong way

[@TheMasterMUF]

Over filling is prevented by the dip tube.

[@silverdragontaylir8252]

Genius

[@roniler7960]

Can the same set me configured for transferring from 20 or 30 lb. Tank to a 1 lb. tank?

[@TheMasterMUF]

It is more simple to transfer from a 20,30 or 40 Lb tank you just need an adapter. GASPRO 1 lb Propane Tank Refill Adapter, Universal Mini Propane Fill Adapter for Disposable Small Propane Bottle, 100% Solid Brass Valve with Safety Protection www.amazon.com/dp/B01N19Y96P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gkwCCb0AKYZT2

[@budtheking1]

do you have the parts list

[@TheMasterMUF]

Nashfuels has the parts needed. They used to have a kit. Try contacting them

[@icur]

When you screwed on the external valve to the check-lock, DOES TANK HAVE TO BE EMPTY?

[@TheMasterMUF]

No.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Cosmo yes. I remember reading that last year when I installed the valve. I just leave the valve installed. I don’t like wasting the propane.

[@icur]

Okay, your video is the only one on KZbin that explains how to do this properly, I would have never figured this out, I am building my own, I bought from same seller you bought yours, but on Amazon. I searched and searched and Nash Fuel seller is the only person I could buy this special valve from. *The VALVE & ADAPTER HE SELLS ONLY WORKS Chek-Lok valves 7590U or 7591U* I am adding a 3/4" locking ball valve on to the Nash Fuel valve so if kids or anybody turns the valve it will NOT let out any propane, I am also going to put a pressure gauge on mine.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Cosmo, keep me posted on your progress.

[@icur]

@@TheMasterMUF I removed those online directions I found, they are not true, if you leave the valve open propane gushes out too fast when you install valve, however BE VERY CAREFUL when removing valve because if you don't hear a "click" / closed from the Chek-Lok valve and it doesn't close properly propane will be gushing out, very dangerous, so remove it very slowly until you hear a click. I tried to fill my first bottle / tank for first time, it didn't hardly work at all, so I drilled out the the POL to almost a 1/4" with a #1 drill bit. (note. If you buy off eBay from China their POL's have very small hole (that acts as a restrictor) which you can drill out, if you buy in U.S. they install restrictors and don't work at all, but you can try to drill them out). So now I have close to 1/4" ID all the way through and it works now but very slowly, it took half an hour to fill the bottle half way. The problem is temperature, it was cold today in MN and the pressure was around 50psi, remember the pressure and tank level DO NOT CORRELATE, so I have a full tank but not enough pressure, if the bottle I was filling was freezing cold the liquid would transfer much faster, if I had the bottle inside house /warm it would barely take any propane. So what I will have to do is transfer the propane on the warmest days possible, put fill bottles out in snow so they are colder than the 500 gallon tank and it should work much better. It would work perfect in summer because I could put bottles in basement to cool down, tank pressure would be around 150psi + in full sun and it would work real good, much harder to do in winter weather ):

[@EdSurridge]

Weighing the bottle before starting and during filling would prevent overfilling. Overfilling is dangerous and you have overfilled this bottle. Please check other threads on this subject online and re do the video. Delete this one ASAP to prevent accidents. Thank you

[@TheMasterMUF]

edward surridge Tanks are no longer filled by Weight. They use the tanks dip tube to fill to 80%. A tanks dip tube length depends on the specific tank model to ensure that the dip tube vents liquid at 80% fill. The dip tube length is stamped on the valve or on the dip tube it self on tanks with a stand alone dip tube. For example forklift tanks have a separate dip tube.

[@ronaldjohnson1505]

Great advice. This guy is dangerous.

[@jonathanklecka291]

Where did you get the pol adapter, etc.?

[@TheMasterMUF]

Nashfuel

[@thastinger345]

Ebay store name is "propane-kits"

[@earthstewardude]

this guy doesn't seem to know about over filling propane tanks and the danger

[@paulbignell6977]

people fill cars with gas every day without any issues

[@bradb7914]

Yes, but not past 80%

[@dudeFace99099]

Ummm, I usually fill my car to 100%...

[@Crestone-saju]

How do you remove the main valve? Just unscrew them? Thanks

[@TheMasterMUF]

Yes.

[@Crestone-saju]

@@TheMasterMUF made loud pop noise… scary

[@lewistamez2325]

I believe we are supposed to use a scale for this am I right or wrong just making sure

[@TheMasterMUF]

Lewis Tamez it depends on the method that is being used to fill the tank. You can weigh the tank to determine the amount of gas that it’s in the tank or you can use the dip tube that’s installed on the tank. I used the dip tube that is why you see me venting some gas. When the liquid level reaches the dip tube liquid will start to vent out. If you look at your tank you will see a stamp that reads “DT 4” that means that the dip tube is four inches. Each tank stile will have different dip tube length the length is set so that the tube reaches the liquid level at 80%.

[@lewistamez2325]

Okay thanks was just makin sure

[@michaell8295]

Where can I get the parts for the values and fitting?

[@TheMasterMUF]

Nashfuel

[@TheMasterMUF]

www.ebay.com/itm/181648131163

[@BrianAhearn8597]

@@TheMasterMUF did you do this? I clicked on the link they want $200

[@TheMasterMUF]

@@BrianAhearn8597 Yes. If you don’t use a lot of propane it’s not worth it. If I fill my own tank it cost me $1.80 a gallon if I take it to get filled it cost me $3.49. I RV camp and use propane for that and other things around the house. Plus it more convenient.

[@gregk.6723]

The only thing i did not see is the cigarette in your mouth.

[@TheMasterMUF]

I quit several years ago.

[@ken1927cc]

Venting "air" is NOT possible, thre is only liquid and gaseous propane in the tank .

[@TheMasterMUF]

The air is trapped in the hose when you first connect it.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Nashfuel they have an EBay store.

[@waynesworld6673]

Thanks for the video... found the items on Ebay... they are $199 for the package... I own my own 500gallon tank... I have the valves on top but I am unsure which one has the tube that goes all the way to the bottom of the tank for the liquid. Is there a way to check? Without killing myself that is lol... And do not worry about these guys on line... they obviously have no clue on propane. It is dangerous if you are not prepared or have knowledge on how to shut it off.

[@TheMasterMUF]

LOL very true. I just filled my 40lb tank at the same time that my gas company filled my 500 gallon tank. I asked the gas man (a profesional) if he was OK with me filling my 40lb tank at the same time that he filled my 500 gallon tank. He had no problem with it. I will post a link for you. There should be 4 valve on your tank. 1- Fill valve 2- A pressure relief valve 3- The service valve (this is the valve that you draw gas from) 4 - The check lock valve. This valve is used by the gas company to empty the tank. If the tank needs to be moved it must be empty. A gallon of propane weighs 4.2 lb if a 500 gallon tank is full at 80% that is 1,680 lb of extra weight. You can also use this to draw liquid from the tank.

[@TheMasterMUF]

Waynesworld This link has a lot of information on ASME tanks. The tank that is used on a grill is a DOT tank. www.propane101.com/understandingpropanetanks.htm

[@smokesam]

Just my input. ALL videos tell how to do the small tank hookup. But every 500 gal tank has different valves on the top. Can you do better?

[@jamesgibson150]

This is all wrong on so many levels. just another video on how not to do it.

[@TheMasterMUF]

James Gibson. If it is wrong, then please tell us the correct way or tell us what I’m doing wrong.

[@jamesgibson150]

@@TheMasterMUF No gloves, should have a proper valve on it not some random one you found off a smaller tank! also you should have just left that valve open a crack the whole time not on and off. crack it open a bit and watch it until u see a steady white stream (liquid) than shut it. filling to 90% is against the law for a reason. it will expand to a dangerous level on a hot day. also you really don't know it's at 90% without a scale. your way will work, it's just so dangerous. I drive a bulk propane truck and fill the big tanks daily. Not trying to be a youtube know it all just warning others it could go bad quickly!

[@TheMasterMUF]

James Gibson.. you are correct on everything you said. I only use this tanks at the house and the only time they get transported is if I know that they are below 80%. The DOT tanks are very safe and they do have a relief valve. I will be making a video demonstrating how safe they are.

[@piinocchiio5730]

@@jamesgibson150 who do I talk to to learn everything propane related.... I am a food vendor, as I grow my tanks grow and I am starting to have a hard time falling asleep.. Fire Marshall maybe? Or should I just ask the guy that fills my tanks to teach me..? Please help a brotha out. I feel like you are the first step to my long complicated question,

[@ericridg7143]

nothing this clown says is anywhere near safe. if you change the valve in his 40 lb tank the tank should have been purged before filling. the reason why you only fill a tank to 80% is to leave room for expansion. if you care about your property and lives of your loved ones I wouldn't do what he is saying

[@mailliw75]

No kidding....

[@TheMasterMUF]

This is the eBay item number: 181648131163 just make sure that you have a new style checklock on your tank.

[@kristiewade8969]

181648131163 eBay

[@Galactis1]

This is extremely dangerous and also illegal by residents, this constitutes breaking contract, federal and state fines, jail time. I would know because, I'm from a family business of 60 years in propane service. The POL style adapters and fittings used are to push open the OPD style valve seals inside which is how the valve systems work for grills and what not. Also, most tanks at residences should not have liquid check valves installed ever! Those are usually only for grain dryers or liquid using heavy applications. Not safe for residents to use. Also, this is how people have explosions. I can tell you right now this is highly unsafe and unregulated and you should be fined and disallowed from service by the gas company.

[@22mmandie]

Haha, you told him you little B-itch!

[@Zef66]

Can you point out what law this is breaking? I've never heard of anyone getting fine or jail time for transferring their own propane from their own tank to a smaller tank they own. Please let us know exactly what law he is breaking.

[@firstnamelastname7688]

You any relation to Hank Hill

[@firstnamelastname7688]

@@Zef66 actually if you read on the small tanks for lanterns it will say its against federal law to refill and transport those tanks. And punishable with a 5 yr prison sentence and a $500,000 fine. ....the keyword is TRANSPORT. So as long as you never drive with it your good.

[@kendallhallett]

Yes, yes, please cite the law you claim. Most states have laws online these days, so you could supply a link. That said, evaporating liquid propane gets very, very, VERY cold. He should be wearing stout rubber gloves... as in more than nitrile exam gloves. You get liquid on your skin (or wimpy thin nitrile gloves... or worse... cotton gloves) it will cause frostbite pretty quickly. To one person who responded elsewhere, no, you shouldn't fill 1 lb propane tanks (camping type tanks) unless you buy one that's DOT approved for that purpose. They do make them, and they come with the whole kit designed to fill a specially made (stronger) 1 lb tank from a 20lb tank typically used for grills and such. There's a KZbin video by DTroFishOn about these small tanks and kits. I'm not generally afraid of working with propane, but yeah, no, don't refill the 1lb tanks unless you buy the reinforced one that's DOT approved for it. Filling cheap tanks will be against DOT code if you transport them in your car. I'm not gonna look for that cite 'cause it's credible. Mr. Linden is clearly a propane salesman. So while you're looking up that state statute or federal code we're all so anxious to see, could you show us the books on how much money your family makes on those tank exchange cages outside virtually every gas station, etc, etc. I did the math on that and I figured I'm throwing away about $13.50 every time I do a tank exchange vs. getting my tanks refilled at a local store that does it by the gallon. For convenience for a backyard grill, I'd say that's ok. But if you use significant propane for heating, do your research. People are so naive is seems like they WANT to give their money to folks like that. In this video the guy did say something about ignoring the inspection date on the tanks. That's not a great idea if he takes it too far. A rusty old tank or an old, worn out valve with worn out threads... yeah, common sense comes around somewhere in there.